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Steve B

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Feb 22, 2010, 10:48:40 AM2/22/10
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Sent to sci.engr.joining.welding, too, but so as not to crosspost and annoy
the ankle biters:

Arrived home to find my front yard completely destroyed by a backhoe. It
started the day before I left. Failed leach field. Built on a caliche
base, so no drainage. This guy dug deep into the caliche, but didn't get
through it. We are going to meet tomorrow to see if we are going to
fracture it with dynamite, or if we can bore some big holes and punch
through the caliche.

Anyway, he broke some ripper claw teeth. Haven't seen them yet, so don't
know the degree of destruction. But I imagine that they could be built up
with 7018, then hardfaced. I did it once before on some. A lot of welding,
but it works.

My questions are about hardfacing. I have never burned a hardface rod. I
am assuming that they run like a 7018, and that one needs to keep a short
arc, keep the arc in the puddle, and other things normally done with 7018.
Am I right? Any concerns about laying this over a layer of 7018? I can do
then in the flat position, so would it be good to crank up the amperage?
Should I consider 11018? I am going to get some drill pipe soon to build
pole barn structures, and 11018 was suggested to avoid cracking.

Help and pointers appreciated. Brands of rods? Things to AVOID?

Steve

Jim Stewart

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Feb 22, 2010, 11:45:21 AM2/22/10
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Steve B wrote:

> Help and pointers appreciated. Brands of rods? Things to AVOID?

Didn't you just get out of the hospital? I think
you should take it easy for awhile...

Steve B

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Feb 22, 2010, 12:38:42 PM2/22/10
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"Jim Stewart" <jste...@jkmicro.com> wrote in message
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Yes, but it doesn't keep me from thinking or planning. My doctor told me
not to lift anything heavier than my dick for two weeks. The he saw that
and said, "Let me rephrase that."

Steve ;-)


Doug White

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Feb 22, 2010, 12:53:45 PM2/22/10
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"Steve B" <desert...@fishmail.net> wrote in
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Nice to see your sense of humor survived unscathed.

Doug White

Stu Fields

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Feb 22, 2010, 1:23:09 PM2/22/10
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"Steve B" <desert...@fishmail.net> wrote in message
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Steve. I have a layer of approx 6" thick Caliche at the bottom of my
basement. I wanted to put a drain hole thru the Caliche into the sandy
layer beyond. Post Hole digger?? No way. I welded a wood drill bit onto
some re-bar and proceded to drill thru the Caliche. When I tried to pull
the drill out I couldn't. Evidently it had "Threaded" its way thru the
Caliche and the whole drill bit was now below the layer. Couldn't back it
out. Nothing I did seem to help. Even with a hydraulic engine hoist all I
did was break the 1/4" chain. Nothing worked until I made up a water pick
with a 1/2" pipe and the household water pressure. I was able to pick a
large enough hole to pull the drill out.
I talked to a local grader operator who said he had seen the front wheels
off the ground and the blade only taking a very thin cut of the Caliche. He
said it would have been faster with 80grit sandpaper.

Good luck with your Caliche digger. Smart use of dynamite might just help
out.

Stu


Snag

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Feb 22, 2010, 1:52:45 PM2/22/10
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I figgered he was just braggin' .....

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Karl Townsend

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Feb 22, 2010, 3:14:42 PM2/22/10
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Steve,

Can you email me in about ten days?

I have a contact place for replacement hoe teeth in my file. It rimes with
or is similar to valentine. Don't remember exact name. Good deal works
great. Just weld new ones on.

My dad had to bust callechi. Get under it, use the hoe bucket like a pry bar
and bust upward.

Karl


Steve B

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Feb 22, 2010, 5:57:57 PM2/22/10
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"Karl Townsend" <karltown...@embarqmail.com> wrote in message
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Have saved your post to file, and will post some pics on flickr. We're
talking about caliche three feet thick, and veins of non porous lava here.

Steve


Steve B

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Feb 22, 2010, 5:56:34 PM2/22/10
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"Stu Fields" <e...@iwvisp.com> wrote in message
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We arrived at a mutual plausible solution today. We will install vertical
pipes in strategic locations, and we can pump the field if the level ever
gets high within it. We did dig a branch off, looking for the old line, but
never found it. It rained, then snowed 2". The pond in the ditch DID drain
in 12 hours, so apparently we have reached fractured rock. But anyway, we
will put "inspection pipes" into the field as we refill it, and then pump
them if the level ever gets high. I have adjoining farm acreage, and the
effluent will go to fertilize it.

I wanted to see the dynamite, tho.

Steve


Buerste

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Feb 22, 2010, 6:11:45 PM2/22/10
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"Steve B" <desert...@fishmail.net> wrote in message
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NEVER pass up an opportunity to blow something up!


Bob La Londe

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Feb 22, 2010, 6:35:13 PM2/22/10
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Caliche can be some tough stuff. When we put in the swimming pool at my
dad's house we banged that poor backhoe around for two days before we got
smart and borrowed a heavy dozer with rippers. My poor little 33 horse
John Deere tractor can barely take a couple inches at a time with a single
blade in the stuff. LOL.

I have seen chain trenchers (big ones) sit in place just grinding away and
spinning the tires.

When I worked for the phone company we put in buried cable with a plow.
(special one where the cable fed out through the tooth.)

Steve B

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Feb 22, 2010, 6:40:34 PM2/22/10
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"Karl Townsend" <karltown...@embarqmail.com> wrote

> My dad had to bust callechi. Get under it, use the hoe bucket like a pry
> bar and bust upward.
>
> Karl

Ah, if it was only that easy .............

http://www.flickr.com/photos/deserttraveler/


Steve B

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Feb 22, 2010, 6:43:21 PM2/22/10
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"Buerste" <bue...@buerste.com> wrote

> NEVER pass up an opportunity to blow something up!

Saw some pretty amazing things when working in offshore oilfield.
Underwater charges are particularly spectacular. Also saw some really scary
things with perforating guns going off on deck. No one had to tell us twice
to stay in when the perforating guys were working. Once you saw what those
things will do, all you need is one announcement. Not allowed to go outside
for any reason. Which was a chance to eat or relax.

Steve


Buerste

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Feb 22, 2010, 8:46:57 PM2/22/10
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"Steve B" <desert...@fishmail.net> wrote in message
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What is a "perforating gun"? I did Google it and it seems they are supposed
to go off IN the well and not on deck. Do oops's happen often?

I STILL say that no problem can't be solved with gratuitous use of
explosives! Got a video camera? Use more than you think you'll need.


Steve B

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Feb 22, 2010, 9:54:15 PM2/22/10
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"Buerste" <bue...@buerste.com> wrote in message
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The short answer: A perforating gun is an explosive device that looks like
a pipe with nipples sticking out to the sides. The predetermined depths of
where the oil bearing rock is has been already identified by seismic and
standard paleologic means. When an oil well is drilled, the successively
smaller pipes have no holes, or the oil would seep into the drilling mud and
apparatus, making it messier than it already is. When TD (total depth) is
reached, and all is right, they lower these guns into the hole beginning
with the deepest. Explosive shaped charges blow holes in the pipe, and
fracture adjoining rock to assist the flow of oil into the well pipe.
Higher levels will have more layers of pipe and concrete to go through, so
each must be successively stronger. Imagine putting a series of smaller
diameter pipes inside each other, but each one 500 or 1,000 feet shorter
than the previous. They are set off with an electric impulse or radio
signal.

On deck predetonations can be caused by a stray radio transmission, static
electricity, lightning, most anything, and sometimes the cause of which is
never determined.

Injuries can be caused by the direct shock wave, flying parts, or most
anything accelerated to 24,000 feet per second. If you've ever seen what an
RPG (rocket propelled grenade) has done to steel plate, that's about what
the deck looks like afterward, only a hole every three feet. Those pointing
sideways and up throw their force at whatever is near. Now imagine a 100'
string of that going off.

And yes, most explosives I have seen detonated were in excessive quantities
except for the shaped charges we used to place.

Steve


Pete C.

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Feb 22, 2010, 10:11:19 PM2/22/10
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Sounds like something a terrorist would love to put in their parade
float...

Buerste

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Feb 22, 2010, 11:43:38 PM2/22/10
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"Steve B" <desert...@fishmail.net> wrote in message
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And a rig survives 100' feet of these? Scratch "Rig Hand" off my to-do
list!


Steve B

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Feb 23, 2010, 1:33:42 AM2/23/10
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"Buerste" <bue...@buerste.com> wrote

> And a rig survives 100' feet of these? Scratch "Rig Hand" off my to-do
> list!

Once you step outside the living quarters, most everything can kill or hurt
you. Everything is dirty, slick and/or dangerous.

Steve


jk

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Feb 24, 2010, 11:25:56 PM2/24/10
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"Snag" <snag...@comcast.net> wrote:


>
>I figgered he was just braggin' .....

Yeah, but we don't know how the doctor rephrased, could be he said
you can lift 3x that much ....

jk

Michael A. Terrell

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Feb 24, 2010, 1:08:52 AM2/24/10
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Or that he was into collecting miniatures! ;-)


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Steve B

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Feb 24, 2010, 12:25:56 PM2/24/10
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"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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QUIT!


Wes

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Feb 24, 2010, 7:43:42 PM2/24/10
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"Steve B" <desert...@fishmail.net> wrote:

>> Didn't you just get out of the hospital? I think
>> you should take it easy for awhile...
>
>Yes, but it doesn't keep me from thinking or planning. My doctor told me
>not to lift anything heavier than my dick for two weeks. The he saw that
>and said, "Let me rephrase that."

If you are not jesting, don't look at pretty girls for the next two weeks. Gotta watch
that blood flow. ;)

Wes
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"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

Steve B

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Feb 25, 2010, 2:28:08 AM2/25/10
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"Wes" <clu...@lycos.com> wrote in message
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> "Steve B" <desert...@fishmail.net> wrote:
>
>>> Didn't you just get out of the hospital? I think
>>> you should take it easy for awhile...
>>
>>Yes, but it doesn't keep me from thinking or planning. My doctor told me
>>not to lift anything heavier than my dick for two weeks. The he saw that
>>and said, "Let me rephrase that."
>
> If you are not jesting, don't look at pretty girls for the next two weeks.
> Gotta watch
> that blood flow. ;)
>
> Wes

Since your last post, I thought of the 6 P's rule. Prior Planning Prevents
Piss Poor Performance. I like to research things before hand, and have
saved time and money on it. However, that does not come into play with
pretty girls. You can plan all you want, and it may never happen, or the
last three P's come into play even if you concentrate on the first three.

Steve


Larry Jaques

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Feb 25, 2010, 7:14:43 PM2/25/10
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On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 23:28:08 -0800, the infamous "Steve B"
<desert...@fishmail.net> scrawled the following:

>
>"Wes" <clu...@lycos.com> wrote in message
>news:uIjhn.329616$FK3.3...@en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com...
>> "Steve B" <desert...@fishmail.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> Didn't you just get out of the hospital? I think
>>>> you should take it easy for awhile...
>>>
>>>Yes, but it doesn't keep me from thinking or planning. My doctor told me
>>>not to lift anything heavier than my dick for two weeks. The he saw that
>>>and said, "Let me rephrase that."
>>
>> If you are not jesting, don't look at pretty girls for the next two weeks.
>> Gotta watch
>> that blood flow. ;)
>>
>> Wes
>
>Since your last post, I thought of the 6 P's rule. Prior Planning Prevents
>Piss Poor Performance.

You missed the first one of the 7 P's rule: Proper Prior Planning
Prevents Piss Poor Performance.


>I like to research things before hand, and have saved time and money on it.

Ditto here. I check prices at half a dozen places before purchasing
something, if at all possible. I sometimes come across better items
for a couple bucks more during my searches, or turn up bad lots to
avoid when I do shop. It's definitely worth my while to do.


>However, that does not come into play with
>pretty girls. You can plan all you want, and it may never happen, or the
>last three P's come into play even if you concentrate on the first three.

Ain't dat da trufe? <g>

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