OT can an adult learn skateboarding
Ignoramus4078
I am a complete novice. My older kid started to learn it and I am
wondering, can an adult pick that skill up or is it too late.
A related question is what skateboard would be good for an adult sized
beginner. I just want it to be easy to use.
i
Buerste
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Got superior health insurance?
Ignoramus4078
It is relatively decent, yes.
i
Ed Huntress
"Ignoramus4078" <ignora...@NOSPAM.4078.invalid> wrote in message
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I tried my son's, around 12 years ago (I was 50). I had been a tolerable
surfer in my youth, and I think I could still do it -- but the skateboard
would have killed me if I didn't give up after about an hour of trying.
It's harder than it looks. So is the pavement. <g> Talk to the oldest guy in
a skateboard shop and see what kind of armor he recommends.
--
Ed Huntress
ATP
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I don't think it's a good idea to play around with pavement in your 50's and
beyond. Snow is plenty hard enough for me at high speed on a board, and
sometimes water is a little too hard if I hit it the wrong way. WRT what
skateboard would be good, I can't ride a skateboard but learned the street
surfer camber wheel type and can go down the street at least on a long
board, which are much easier to cruise on.
Artemus
"Ignoramus4078" <ignora...@NOSPAM.4078.invalid> wrote in message
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Sure you can do it. It'll probably take you much longer to learn than the kid.
And your bones break much easier than his and will take a lot longer to heal.
Art
Sunworshipper
I'm sure one can. I use to ride skateboards and unicycles, even ones
with chains. I'm just under 50 and would ride the unicycle, but not
get on another skateboard. They are tricky, one slip of the mind and
you are on the ground. Last time that I rode one back in the 80's
something happened and I landed on my ass with a pair of channel locks
in my back pocket. I could hardly move and then almost go run over by
a car in the parking lot, people just don't seem to watch down low. On
a side note, this has always seemed strange to me cause when I drive I
watch the other vehicles tires cause it shows the most about other
drivers. Anyhow, after that event I have never touched another
skateboard.
I strongly recommend that you just watch and try try to instill in
your kid to never do the crazy stuff these other completely insane
yuts do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZZDwMkRimc
SW
Ignoramus4078
Blanket and pillows?
i
Ignoramus4078
Well, I am 39, hopefully not yet in the brittle bone age.
i
Jon Elson
are younger than
me, but your bones will definitely break more easily than someone half
your age.
Take the protective gear seriously. A fractured wrist is supposed to be
a REALLY
common injury for the older crowd, ie. those over 20, and you can only
imagine how
much that would cramp your programming or machining style.
Jon
Gunner Asch
<ignora...@NOSPAM.4078.invalid> wrote:
Yes you can learn. And its fairly easy if you have good reactions and a
well tuned sense of balance. Move easy..not quickly until you get the
hang of it. If yo are naturally agile..you will catch on quickly. If you
arent..it will take a day or two.
I STRONGLY recommend a helmet, gloves, knee and elbow pads. Rollerblade
gear.
You are not 15 anymore and smashing your elbow/knee/skull on the asphalt
will crack, chip or break something that takes a while to heal.
Protective padding worn properly will only allow you to hurt your ego,
not your bones.
Gunner, 56, who can still boogie on a board, or rollerblade around town
I am the Sword of my Family
and the Shield of my Nation.
If sent, I will crush everything you have built,
burn everything you love,
and kill every one of you.
(Hebrew quote)
Ignoramus4078
> On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 20:49:48 -0500, Ignoramus4078
><ignora...@NOSPAM.4078.invalid> wrote:
>
>>I have to admit to having almost never ridden a skateboard, certainly
>>I am a complete novice. My older kid started to learn it and I am
>>wondering, can an adult pick that skill up or is it too late.
>>
>>A related question is what skateboard would be good for an adult sized
>>beginner. I just want it to be easy to use.
>>
>>i
>
> Yes you can learn. And its fairly easy if you have good reactions and a
> well tuned sense of balance. Move easy..not quickly until you get the
> hang of it. If yo are naturally agile..you will catch on quickly. If you
> arent..it will take a day or two.
>
> I STRONGLY recommend a helmet, gloves, knee and elbow pads. Rollerblade
> gear.
>
> You are not 15 anymore and smashing your elbow/knee/skull on the asphalt
> will crack, chip or break something that takes a while to heal.
> Protective padding worn properly will only allow you to hurt your ego,
> not your bones.
>
I actually still heal very quickly.
But thanks.
i
Ignoramus4078
I will try to take it easy, no point in setting records, as there is
no one to impress.
i
kfvo...@gmail.com
> On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 20:49:48 -0500, Ignoramus4078
>
I'd think rollerblade wrist protectors too.
Wes
>> Yes you can learn. And its fairly easy if you have good reactions and a
>> well tuned sense of balance. Move easy..not quickly until you get the
>> hang of it. If yo are naturally agile..you will catch on quickly. If you
>> arent..it will take a day or two.
>>
>> I STRONGLY recommend a helmet, gloves, knee and elbow pads. Rollerblade
>> gear.
>>
>> You are not 15 anymore and smashing your elbow/knee/skull on the asphalt
>> will crack, chip or break something that takes a while to heal.
>> Protective padding worn properly will only allow you to hurt your ego,
>> not your bones.
>>
>
>I actually still heal very quickly.
>
Not from a closed head injury. At least wear a helmet if not all the other gear Gunner
recommended.
Wes
Gunner Asch
wrote:
I cant speak for where Iggy lives..but protective gear of adult size is
commonly available at just about any second hand store here in
California. One can dress out completely for less than $10.
Gunner
Gunner Asch
Indeed.
I put on my gear and roller blades 6 months after my heart surgery.
Wrist protectors are manditory when learning.
We dont bend and twist as well as we did when we were 10.
Gunner
Karl Townsend
>Gunner, 56, who can still boogie on a board, or rollerblade around town
?? I thought you served in Nam. You're too young.
Karl
Ed Huntress
"Ignoramus4078" <ignora...@NOSPAM.4078.invalid> wrote in message
It's hard-shell knee and elbow guards, and a bicycle helmet. Prayer helps,
too. d8-)
--
Ed Huntress
Gunner Asch
Think again. I went in when I was 17. The birth cert said I was 20.
Mom and Dad were big anti-war people. They wouldnt sign. So I took an
alternative route. I was 6' 3" and had been cutting pulp wood for a few
years as a side job..so I was big enough.
Shrug
I wanted OUT of the little town I graduated highschool from. And growing
up poor..there was no college on my horizon. Just small town jobs that
didnt pay the bills. And I wanted to get married. Beautiful little girl,
we loved each other very much. And I DIDNT want to be a pulp cutter!!!
So I pulled a name off a tombstone, got a birth cert..joined up. Thought
I was going to be a wireman...that got.."changed for the good of the
service".....
2 weeks before my DROS date..I got called in from the bush and the CO
and a chaplin were waiting for me
The lady I was going home to marry, had been killed by a drunk driver.
So I went home and buried her, instead of marrying her..and went back to
taking long walks in the woods and meeting interesting people..
Shug..by that time..the war was winding down, not a lot of people wanted
to go to Vietnam, least of all the second time. Reinlisted, was back in
country in less than 2 weeks. 9 days as I recall..
I think I had "viking funeral" beating on the walls in the back of my
skull. I wasnt wrapped all that tight..hummm...or maybe wrapped extra
tight..,..the second time around.
Went, saw, did My "actual" MOS was 11B-4..so they had need of my
skills and Id picked up speaking some gook from my 'hoi the first time
around, could eat nuc mam with the best of em. Did some interesting
Stuff for the guys with the Swedish Ks and the bush jackets the first
time I was there..the bastards...and they were more than happy to see me
the second time around. Put me right back to work. Got my 'hoi back too.
Shrug...just another warm body in the Green Machine. Got a ding in the
head 3 months after I was SUPPOSED to go home in 73..hell...after nearly
everyone else had already gone home,..my 'hoi dragged me 5 clicks to an
Arvin firebase, got a free helicopter someplace where they plugged up
the holes, got another free ride to Honsu Japan and some skull surgery
where they took out the metal and plugged the holes in my skull, then on
to Letterman, where I was finally able to walk and see again. Took
medical leave..grabbed a MARS flight and did a walkabout of Britian,
parts of Europe, Finland to see my Old Country relations, , the border
nations..parts of Russia..shrug...came home, became an outlaw
biker..bailed out in less than a month, ....out before I did something
stupid and criminal, went to Africa as a "security guard" for 6months
on a reference from a spook Id known..didnt care for that at ALL, came
home again... put on my birth persona and went to work in the oil fields
as a lovable harmless fuzzball ...the rest is history. Some good, some
bad. Became a cop, quit being a cop, did lots of Stuff since then. Old
history. Shrug.
I got out of Letterman at the age of 90 or so. Europe brought me down to
being a nice young man..shrug..and Ive gotten older naturally since
then. Well..there was Africa..but...I was mostly "Young"
Im going to celebrate my 90th..twice!!! WHEEE!!!
Gunner
Chie'n dich Phung Hoang
Sat Moi!!
Sua Sponte!
1971-1973
Gunner Asch
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 06:26:10 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Ignoramus24925
Steve W.
Well if you have good balance, coordination and pain tolerance than have
at it...
Size wise I would opt for a LARGE board, say surfboard sized. Then when
you fall you have a chance of landing on a padded surface...
--
Steve W.
(\___/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")
Steve W.
Thought you said you were an ADULT ;-)
Karl Townsend
>Think again. I went in when I was 17. The birth cert said I was 20.
damn. I never heard of anybody that WANTED to go in 1970.
Guy I knew landed in country 9 Feb. '68. Had his own body bag 16 Feb.
'68. Remember what was happening then? No more voluntary enlistments
in my part of the world after that.
Karl - drew #312 in the lottery - Townsend
rangerssuck
wrote:
Don't know about skateboarding, but I am a pretty proficient ice
skater. I tried roller blading a few years back, and it scared the
crap out of me. Fall on ice and you slide. Fall on pavement and you
leave skin behind.
I would suggest, if you're going to go ahead with this, a helmet,
wrist elbow and knee pads (all available as a set from any skate
shop). And, by all means, be prepared to look silly. It's no where
near as easy as it looks - I know this from a few of the neighborhood
kids who are all excellent ice and roller skaters and have tried their
hand (or foot) at skate boarding. One of them has an interesting
device - a two-wheeled contraption called a wave board. It goes
amazingly fast and is very maneuverable, and it loooks easy enough to
build.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X70NitDFM4A
Good luck.
Buerste
"Ignoramus4078" <ignora...@NOSPAM.4078.invalid> wrote in message
Go for it! (knee pads, elbow pads and a helmet)
rangerssuck
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> > On 2010-08-30, Buerste <buer...@buerste.com> wrote:
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> >> "Ignoramus4078" <ignoramus4...@NOSPAM.4078.invalid> wrote in message
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> >>>I have to admit to having almost never ridden a skateboard, certainly
> >>> I am a complete novice. My older kid started to learn it and I am
> >>> wondering, can an adult pick that skill up or is it too late.
>
> >>> A related question is what skateboard would be good for an adult sized
> >>> beginner. I just want it to be easy to use.
>
> >>> i
>
> >> Got superior health insurance?
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> > It is relatively decent, yes.
>
> > i
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wrist guards and gloves, too.
rangerssuck
24925.invalid> wrote:
> On 2010-08-30, Gunner Asch <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So you have a DD-214?
>
> i
Of course not. It was all secret noises in his head.
Larry Jaques
>I have to admit to having almost never ridden a skateboard, certainly
>I am a complete novice. My older kid started to learn it and I am
>wondering, can an adult pick that skill up or is it too late.
If you ever surfed or skied, yeah, it's a piece of cake.
>A related question is what skateboard would be good for an adult sized
>beginner. I just want it to be easy to use.
If you have good balance, yes, easily. Not that you'll be doing the
loops and wild shit kids can do nowadays, but you can board.
Boating and water skiing are much safer, though.
--
Happiness comes of the capacity to feel deeply, to enjoy
simply, to think freely, to risk life, to be needed.
-- Storm Jameson
Steve B
>>> I have to admit to having almost never ridden a skateboard, certainly
>>> I am a complete novice. My older kid started to learn it and I am
>>> wondering, can an adult pick that skill up or is it too late.
>>>
>>> A related question is what skateboard would be good for an adult sized
>>> beginner. I just want it to be easy to use.
>>>
I have learned a few things from my many heart procedures and 8.5 hour heart
surgery. One of them is that some things are just not worth doing any more
because the risks outweigh the benefits. Anyone can learn to skateboard,
but that might just involve going down the sidewalk for a short distance.
To learn all the tricks and get really good at it, you need to practice, and
that means falling a lot. If you talk to any skateboarder about their
injuries, they will undoubtedly list several, but they are in a situation
where they are living with mommy and daddy, and aren't even paying their own
health insurance. So what if they have to take a couple of weeks off or a
couple of months off to recover. They don't have a job anyway.
I have hung up some of my equipment, the most recent, and the hardest to do
was my new K2 skis and Dalbello boots that had been skiied once.
So, yes, you can learn to skateboard, but with someone as active as you, I
think the downtime would drive you crazy, and if you could not lift or work
with an arm for three weeks or three months, you'd quickly arrive at the
most obvious answer.
It's not worth it. And besides. Yeah, the kids will think it's cool for
someone's Pops to be out there skateboarding, but you might as well to in
and put on the orange duck suit, because you are going to be odd man out.
They will tolerate you a little, but you'll never be "cool". Or is that
"kewl?" There has been attempts for older skateboard groups, but they could
never have enough members who were out of their casts at the same time to
have a meet.
Steve
visit my blog at http://cabgbypasssurgery.com
Steve B
>>I actually still heal very quickly.
>>
>
>
> Not from a closed head injury. At least wear a helmet if not all the
> other gear Gunner
> recommended.
>
> Wes
I'm still not over my tbi from Oct. 2004.
Ed Huntress
"Larry Jaques" <lja...@invalid.diversify.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 20:49:48 -0500, Ignoramus4078
> <ignora...@NOSPAM.4078.invalid> wrote:
>
>>I have to admit to having almost never ridden a skateboard, certainly
>>I am a complete novice. My older kid started to learn it and I am
>>wondering, can an adult pick that skill up or is it too late.
>
> If you ever surfed or skied, yeah, it's a piece of cake.
I've done quite a bit of both, and I don't think it's a piece of cake.
Ignoramus24925
> Don't know about skateboarding, but I am a pretty proficient ice
> skater. I tried roller blading a few years back, and it scared the
> crap out of me. Fall on ice and you slide. Fall on pavement and you
> leave skin behind.
>
> I would suggest, if you're going to go ahead with this, a helmet,
> wrist elbow and knee pads (all available as a set from any skate
> shop). And, by all means, be prepared to look silly. It's no where
> near as easy as it looks - I know this from a few of the neighborhood
> kids who are all excellent ice and roller skaters and have tried their
> hand (or foot) at skate boarding. One of them has an interesting
> device - a two-wheeled contraption called a wave board. It goes
> amazingly fast and is very maneuverable, and it loooks easy enough to
> build.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X70NitDFM4A
>
> Good luck.
I am not looking to performing any feats worthy of YouTube, etc. I
would say, nothing where all wheels are in the air simultaneously.
Just riding around and such. I would not try to look cool in front of
skateboard savvy kids, and I have generally been careful.
A skate board is a whole new way of balancing and it just needs to be
learned. (or maybe I cannot learn it, boo hoo)
i
ATP
"Ignoramus24925" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.24925.invalid> wrote in message
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There is no reason to ride a standard length skateboard if you don't want to
do ollies, etc.. For riding around, a nice bamboo longboard will get you
around in style.
Gunner Asch
Of course I do. However its not in my "actual" name. And its tucked
neatly in a footlocker sitting in a cabinet in my dads basement.
Was there any further questions you feel like asking?
And yes..Ive made inquiries to the VA about the situation. They have
been helpful.
Gunner
ATP
"Ignoramus24925" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.24925.invalid> wrote in message
> On 2010-08-30, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> So I pulled a name off a tombstone, got a birth cert..joined up. >
> So you have a DD-214?
>
> i
It would have the tombstone guy's name on it.
Gunner Asch
<karltown...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>...
>>Think again. I went in when I was 17. The birth cert said I was 20.
>
>damn. I never heard of anybody that WANTED to go in 1970.
71.
When you are young, poor, and live in a rural county and have little
choices about employment..one does what one does to try to change that.
I figured the GI Bill would cover my education and when I got out..I did
sign for wireman school, (telephone guy)....but things changed..and I
was all pride, nads and sure of myself....so didnt think things through
very well. Something Ive been guilty of more than once.
It was not one of my best decisions, but not one of the worst either.
On the other hand....it did change my life far far longer and farther
than I ever imagined it would. And certainly took it in some very
strange directions.
>
>Guy I knew landed in country 9 Feb. '68. Had his own body bag 16 Feb.
>'68. Remember what was happening then? No more voluntary enlistments
>in my part of the world after that.
>
>Karl - drew #312 in the lottery - Townsend
There but for the grace of God.....
older brother of a buddy of mine, about 68 or 69, got off the plane, got
on a bus, was blown up within 1/4 mile of the air base, was tucked right
back on that same plane and flown to Japan Total time in country..about
2 hours. He ultimately lost a leg. Shrug....some people have good luck,
some bad. Im still very much undecided as to what kind of luck Mike had.
He retired a couple years ago, after nearly 30 years selling insurance.
Did quite well for himself.
Shrug.
Gunner
Gunner Asch
wrote:
It certainly did. The "guy" was born in 1950 and died in 1950, age 6
weeks.
Gunner
Ignoramus24925
> On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 17:21:02 -0400, "ATP" <walter...@unforgiven.com>
> wrote:
>
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>>"Ignoramus24925" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.24925.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:P8-dnclD86FfKubR...@giganews.com...
>>> On 2010-08-30, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> So I pulled a name off a tombstone, got a birth cert..joined up. >
>>> So you have a DD-214?
>>>
>>> i
>>
>>It would have the tombstone guy's name on it.
>>
> It certainly did. The "guy" was born in 1950 and died in 1950, age 6
> weeks.
But, still, you have the actual form with that guy's name, right?
i
Ned Simmons
<hunt...@optonline.net> wrote:
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>"Larry Jaques" <lja...@invalid.diversify.com> wrote in message
>news:ionn76p8cm9p7o7tv...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 20:49:48 -0500, Ignoramus4078
>> <ignora...@NOSPAM.4078.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>I have to admit to having almost never ridden a skateboard, certainly
>>>I am a complete novice. My older kid started to learn it and I am
>>>wondering, can an adult pick that skill up or is it too late.
>>
>> If you ever surfed or skied, yeah, it's a piece of cake.
>
>I've done quite a bit of both, and I don't think it's a piece of cake.
>
Same here. I was a decent skiier and surfer as a teenager, but found
skateboarding awkward. And mistakes hurt more.
But I have taken up surfing again this summer after a 35 year break.
--
Ned Simmons
Gunner Asch
<ignoram...@NOSPAM.24925.invalid> wrote:
>On 2010-08-30, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 17:21:02 -0400, "ATP" <walter...@unforgiven.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Ignoramus24925" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.24925.invalid> wrote in message
>>>news:P8-dnclD86FfKubR...@giganews.com...
>>>> On 2010-08-30, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So I pulled a name off a tombstone, got a birth cert..joined up. >
>>>> So you have a DD-214?
>>>>
>>>> i
>>>
>>>It would have the tombstone guy's name on it.
>>>
>> It certainly did. The "guy" was born in 1950 and died in 1950, age 6
>> weeks.
>
>But, still, you have the actual form with that guy's name, right?
Ive got a copy of his birth cert tucked away at my dads place. Im pretty
sure, though its been...hum...30 yrs since I looked in the footlocker.
No need. That portion of my life is long, long, long over.
It was much easier in those days to establish alternative ID than it is
today, though it is still possible. In fact..I have, quite legally, 3
other packages of ID, all in different names etc etc, that I keep
current. All quite legal, as Im sure you know.
Someday..one might have/want/need to take off into the wild blue yonder.
The only hard part is fingerprints. Shrug
Gunner
Karl Townsend
>>> It certainly did. The "guy" was born in 1950 and died in 1950, age 6
>>> weeks.
>>
>>But, still, you have the actual form with that guy's name, right?
>
>Ive got a copy of his birth cert tucked away at my dads place. Im pretty
>sure, though its been...hum...30 yrs since I looked in the footlocker.
>No need. That portion of my life is long, long, long over.
That means you're missing out on VA medical care. Top shelf in this
part of the country. There's a pecking order of sorts to VA benefits.
If you're a veteran of a war and have a purple heart or two they cover
almost everything.
Karl
Ignoramus24925
hours. First just standing on one the board still for a while, then
barely riding down a super gentle slope, then down my driveway (not
all the way).
I am sure that I I looked ridiculous, but I still would look
ridiculous even if I had passable skateboarding skills. But it is like
any other balance sport, just takes some getting used to and some
patience. I did it on my son's skateboard, but since I liked I bought
my own online.
i
GeoLane at PTD dot NET
>
>Not from a closed head injury. At least wear a helmet if not all the other gear Gunner
>recommended.
>
>Wes
He aint kidding Iggy. Y'know how your ankle swells when you injure
it. The brain does the same thing except it doesn't have any place to
expand except down the hole where the spinal cord comes out. Guess
what's down there at the base of the brain where the cord exits - the
part that controls breathing and the heart. It gets squished by the
swelling and stops functioning - potentially within minutes if it's
severe enough. Don't even need a skull fracture; just shake the brain
hard enough.
Steve W.
My FIL is seriously pissed at the VA. His records were part of the bunch
lost in the fire years ago and other than a couple of pictures and his
discharge papers he has nothing. He took what he has to the VA and they
basically said "Tough luck pal you don't show up in the system"
I told him that the lack of paperwork wasn't the real problem, it was
that he served in the quartermaster corps planning menus and food
service for many of the folks who now run the VA.....
--
Steve W.
Gunner Asch
Yes, I am. As has been discussed with several individuals, including
the VA.
That rather surprising $250k medical bill brought it to mind and Ive put
some feelers out.
The VA claims its doable, but may take a few years.
Gunner Asch
DID you wear proper protection?
If not...better order it online or shag your ass over to the second hand
stores.
Or you will look far worse than I did when they cut my heart out for 4.5
hours
Ignoramus24925
> On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 19:59:31 -0500, Ignoramus24925
><ignoram...@NOSPAM.24925.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Just a little update, I practiced skateboarding for about 2
>>hours. First just standing on one the board still for a while, then
>>barely riding down a super gentle slope, then down my driveway (not
>>all the way).
>>
>>I am sure that I I looked ridiculous, but I still would look
>>ridiculous even if I had passable skateboarding skills. But it is like
>>any other balance sport, just takes some getting used to and some
>>patience. I did it on my son's skateboard, but since I liked I bought
>>my own online.
>>
>>i
>
> DID you wear proper protection?
No, I did not wear proper protection.
And try to guess how I became a father of two kids.
> If not...better order it online or shag your ass over to the second hand
> stores.
>
> Or you will look far worse than I did when they cut my heart out for 4.5
> hours
I will try to find some kind of a helmet.
i
Gunner Asch
wrote:
The St Louis fire....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Personnel_Records_Center_fire
A LOT of guys got fucked over badly when that happened and many are
still not back in the system.
And then there was this from 2008.....
Shredding Our Trust in the VA
VA investigators find entire claims and other critical documents in
shredding bins at Detroit Regional Office. VA official will only say, "I
can't talk about that."
by Larry Scott
Many veterans who have filed disability claims with the Veterans'
Benefits Administration (VBA) of the Department of Veterans' Affair (VA)
will relate horror stories of misdated, misfiled or lost documents all
leading to delays in processing or an outright denial of the claim. The
mantra for veterans dealing with the VBA has become: "Delay, Deny and
Hope that I Die."
It has been assumed by many veterans, their Service Officers who help
file claims and attorneys who specialize in veterans' law that the VBA
operates in such a way as to deliberately stall or hinder the claim
process with the goal of frustrating the veteran to the point where they
just forget about the claim and go away. This isn't some grand plan to
purposely hurt veterans, but rather a combination of ignorance,
arrogance, incredibly bad management and non-existent oversight. While
this viewpoint has been labeled cynical by some and outright paranoid by
others, new information is surfacing that shows the cynics, and even the
paranoids, to be correct.
What We Know
The VA's Office of Inspector General (VAOIG) has been conducting audits,
or investigations, of a number of VA Regional Offices (VAROs). There are
over 50 VAROs around the country, each set up to handle the claims of
veterans in a particular geographical area.
The latest series of VAOIG investigations centers on charges that VARO
administrators and employees deliberately falsified "timeliness"
statistics sent to the VA's Central Office (VACO). This would be
information that shows when a claim was received and how, with a
documented timeline including date/time stamps, it moved through the
process.
The first heads have begun to roll in this investigation. During the
week of October 6, 2008, four employees at the New York VARO, including
the Director, were placed on administrative leave. More accurately, they
were removed from their positions awaiting the outcome of the
investigation. Sources close to this investigation say that those
removed, and others, were found to have been fudging the "timeliness"
figures. And, there are allegations that documents, including paperwork
essential to the claim process had been destroyed.
Another VARO under investigation is Detroit. On September 5, 2008, VARO
employees were called to a meeting with the main topic being their poor
performance levels. They were told that the Director had been called to
Washington to answer questions regarding the poor performance.
At that meeting, VARO officials announced an "amnesty period" for anyone
who had old claims at their desk or stashed in other places around the
office, a direct procedural violation. Employees were told to turn in
paperwork so they could try to get the "timeliness" numbers up.
Officials also stated that a VAOIG team would be coming shortly to
inspect the VARO and urged all employees "to be prepared."
By mid-September the VAOIG team had arrived at the Detroit VARO. What
they found staggers the imagination. VAOIG discovered hundreds of
claims, documents critical to claims and other valuable information in
the shredder bins. Those bins were removed from the shredder area and
the documents were screened by upper management.
It is unclear if the VAOIG team actually "seized" any of the documents
in the shredder bins. What we do know is that after the VAOIG
investigators left the Detroit VARO, management continued to find more
critical documents in shredder bins. A meeting was called and the
Director told employees that it was known who had thrown out the
documents and that they would be fired. The "amnesty period" for turning
in mail kept at employee's desks was extended in the hope of turning up
all "lost" claim documentation.
On October 2, 2008, the Detroit VARO Director began a "no record mail"
program. This was meant to find all mail in the offices for which there,
literally, was no record. Quoting from an employee directly involved in
this process: "...discovered in the thousands of pieces of 'no record
mail' we found original applications, medical evidence for veterans'
claims that had not been included in the decisions, informal claims
(that likely could affect original dates of claims), and other relevant
identifiable mail items."
On October 7, 2008, quoting again from the VA employee, "...the
Director, Service Center Manager and other top management ransacked our
work areas in search of mail that was being stored/stashed at
individual's desks. They sent some individuals home, and the others were
told to wait in the break room until the end of their shift. I can't
attest to what they found in the work areas, but individuals were pulled
aside and questioned."
Then, on October 9, 2008, quoting again, "During a training session the
Director...stated that other regional offices have already placed
numerous supervisors on administrative leave in regards to 'cheating' on
their numbers, and that with as poor as our station numbers [are]...at
least we aren't cheating on our numbers, or at least not cheating well."
So, what is being done in the Detroit VARO to put an end to this mess?
Not much. The VA employee adds with a noticeable sadness, "...They don't
seem to have any answers yet. They have juggled the supervisory staff
around to different departments for some reason, and have been telling
us to stand by for further training on our job functions. There are
still items of mail at my desk currently that I have been told to hold
on station since they don't know the disposition of these types of mail
yet [and]...they keep finding new piles of mail that date back to March
of 2008 [and further] that's had no action taken on it."
What We Don't Know
At this time, we don't know how many VAROs have been caught up in this
investigation or if the VAOIG teams just went out to "sample" some VAROs
and hit pay dirt in New York and Detroit.
We also don't know what VACO is going to do about this. A highly-placed
VACO official, when told that this information was going public, gulped,
paused, and said, "I can't talk about that." And, one of the VAOIG
investigators who was at the Detroit VARO will not return phone calls on
this matter.
The worst part is, we don't know if any documents were actually
shredded. By its very nature, shredding would eliminate the evidence of
what was shredded. We may never know unless a VA employee comes forward
and says that they did it or saw it done.
CYA Time
We will have to wait for the VAOIG reports before we can get a handle on
how widespread this problem of "timeliness" is. Is this happening at all
50+ VAROs? A number of former VA employees have said that they believe
the "timeliness" issue exists in all VAROs. They are of the opinion that
there is widespread abuse of documents as they come in to the VARO. No
one felt that any VARO Director would actually tell employees to hide or
destroy documents, but the general feeling is that this is "winked at"
and a standard way of handling the paperwork crunch at the VAROs.
Several former VA employees have postulated about how the VAOIG reports
will turn out. They feel that the VA will claim that any hiding or
destruction of documents was done at the lowest possible level and
without the consent or knowledge of anyone above that person's grade,
then make promises that it will never happen again. A former VA attorney
decided that it is impossible for such "widespread abuse to occur"
without knowledge of its existence at all levels of the VARO.
We can expect statements of outrage from VA Secretary James Peake. We
can expect hearings from the politicians on Capitol Hill. But, what will
this really accomplish? Will any of this change the way the VAROs
operate? Don't count on it.
Shredding Our Trust
Although it is not clear at this time whether any documents related to a
disability claim were shredded at any VARO, it is safe to assume that
they weren't sitting in a shredder bin waiting to be processed by a
claims representative. What has been shredded is veterans' trust in the
VA.
By deliberately hiding vital documents and delaying claims, the VBA has
lived up to its reputation and to the slogan so many disgruntled vets
hate to say but know is true: "Delay, Deny and Hope that I Die."
VA executives are fond of touting their agency as "non-adversarial" when
it comes to the disability claim process. Prior to his confirmation as
VA Secretary, Dr. James Peake promised the Senate Committee on Veterans'
Affairs that he would "do the right thing" for veterans. It appears he
missed the mark.
The VA's biggest fear is that the VAOIG investigations will open the
doors to, perhaps, tens of thousands of re-filed claims from every
veteran, Service Officer and attorney who has had a claim or appeal
timed-out because their paperwork was "not received in a timely manner."
While that would add to the huge backlog of claims facing the VBA at
this time, it may be the only solution.
The VBA has shredded veterans' trust in the disability claim process.
It's time for them to re-earn that trust.
It is election time and our elected officials need to hear that we
demand accountability, that we do not want the government to sweep this
under the rug again, hold the employees accountable, fire the managers
in charge for failing to do their jobs.
We OWE the veterans and their families swift handling of their claims
for compensation, the VA is given a generous budget to do their jobs,
why can't they do it? If these people are unable to manage their offices
replace them with competent managers and care for our veterans, nothing
more and nothing less will do......
Keith my own claim was filed in Nov 2002 in Columbia SC and is still
ongoing timeliness is not a thing the VA is good about they hold us
to time standards but this is common for them Mike Bailey
Gunner Asch
<ignoram...@NOSPAM.24925.invalid> wrote:
>On 2010-08-31, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 19:59:31 -0500, Ignoramus24925
>><ignoram...@NOSPAM.24925.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>Just a little update, I practiced skateboarding for about 2
>>>hours. First just standing on one the board still for a while, then
>>>barely riding down a super gentle slope, then down my driveway (not
>>>all the way).
>>>
>>>I am sure that I I looked ridiculous, but I still would look
>>>ridiculous even if I had passable skateboarding skills. But it is like
>>>any other balance sport, just takes some getting used to and some
>>>patience. I did it on my son's skateboard, but since I liked I bought
>>>my own online.
>>>
>>>i
>>
>> DID you wear proper protection?
>
>No, I did not wear proper protection.
>
>And try to guess how I became a father of two kids.
That just put your wife off her feed for 18 months. It could be a life
time for you.
Shrug.
>
>> If not...better order it online or shag your ass over to the second hand
>> stores.
>>
>> Or you will look far worse than I did when they cut my heart out for 4.5
>> hours
>
>I will try to find some kind of a helmet.
>
>i
And elbow pads, knee pads and wrist protectors.
Once you get the hang of it..you can go naked..but while your
learning......
Think of your body as a machine tool. A very very expensive and very
complicated 6 axis milling machine. And you just got it.
Steve B
"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote
> The only hard part is fingerprints. Shrug
>
> Gunner
And now with AFIS, even tougher.
Steve
read about heart surgery and how to prepare for it at:
http://cabgbypasssurgery.com
Steve B
My sis and I are still working two years later to get my father's medals,
several distinguished service medals and crosses, and some others. When
they sent us the copied documents, all of them had singe marks on them. We
got lucky. Now if we can only get them off their asses.
Anyone know how to speed up this process?
Michael A. Terrell
Some of those damaged documents have been recovered and returned to
the arcives in the last few years. If he hasn't requested them in the
last couple years, he should try again. A DOD database of names is
availible on the Military.com website. He should check to see if his
name, rank and MOS turn up.
--
Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is
enough left over to pay them.
Michael A. Terrell
Gunner Asch wrote:
>
> On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 19:40:14 -0500, Karl Townsend
> <karltown...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >>>> It certainly did. The "guy" was born in 1950 and died in 1950, age 6
> >>>> weeks.
> >>>
> >>>But, still, you have the actual form with that guy's name, right?
> >>
> >>Ive got a copy of his birth cert tucked away at my dads place. Im pretty
> >>sure, though its been...hum...30 yrs since I looked in the footlocker.
> >>No need. That portion of my life is long, long, long over.
> >
> >That means you're missing out on VA medical care. Top shelf in this
> >part of the country. There's a pecking order of sorts to VA benefits.
> >If you're a veteran of a war and have a purple heart or two they cover
> >almost everything.
> >
> >Karl
>
> Yes, I am. As has been discussed with several individuals, including
> the VA.
>
> That rather surprising $250k medical bill brought it to mind and Ive put
> some feelers out.
>
> The VA claims its doable, but may take a few years.
Gunner, the best way to deal with the VA is through a Sevice Officer
at a DAV post. If needed, they provide legal services to the
applicant. Using fake records to enlist was common in W.W.II, Korea and
Vietnam. From what I've heard, some enlistment officers gave
instructions on how to do it.
Gunner Asch
<pittma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The St Louis fire....
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Personnel_Records_Center_fire
>\
>
>My sis and I are still working two years later to get my father's medals,
>several distinguished service medals and crosses, and some others. When
>they sent us the copied documents, all of them had singe marks on them. We
>got lucky. Now if we can only get them off their asses.
>
>Anyone know how to speed up this process?
>
>Steve
>
Know any Congresscritters very well?
Gunner
Gunner Asch
<pittma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote
>
>> The only hard part is fingerprints. Shrug
>>
>> Gunner
>
>And now with AFIS, even tougher.
>
>Steve
>
Its quite legal to call yourself Queen of the May. One cant do it
though to commit crimes, fraud etc etc. One doesnt even need to go to
court to have ones name changed.
Shrug
Gunner Asch
Ayup. Im aware of several guys who went in young, or went in on a run
from the law and served with distinction.
Its not been of any concern to me for all these years and I seldom even
think about it. Shrug
Hell..the spooks didnt care, once they found out and did a check on me.
When I came home, I was lean, mean, rough, tough and nobody to fuck
with..and when I put my old name back on...I had to think like the
original model. Harder than one thinks actually.
Let my hair grow out, then one day went into the barber and had it cut
off. Been short haired ever since. I was in the barber shop with a
buddy, who had no idea Id been in..and the barber asked "how long you
been home?" (old vet seen em all) and I told him Id been a hippie living
in California for a few years. He looked at me..quirked his
eye..glanced over at the kid I was with...got a very small smile and
looked me right in the eye and said "welcome home".
He was my barber for a couple years after than, before I went on the
road.
Dead now. He had done Normandy in the first wave.
Quite a guy.
CaveLamb
>> The St Louis fire....
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Personnel_Records_Center_fire
> \
>
> My sis and I are still working two years later to get my father's medals,
> several distinguished service medals and crosses, and some others. When
> they sent us the copied documents, all of them had singe marks on them. We
> got lucky. Now if we can only get them off their asses.
>
> Anyone know how to speed up this process?
>
> Steve
>
Yes.
DON'T try to do it yourself. You would be dealing with the federal
bureaucracy at it's best.
That path leads to frustration, anger, and abuse of small animals.
Contact one of the representative agencies.
DAV, or better yet, if in Texas, contact the local Texas Veterans Commission
--
Richard Lamb
CaveLamb
> On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 19:40:14 -0500, Karl Townsend
> <karltown...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>>>> It certainly did. The "guy" was born in 1950 and died in 1950, age 6
>>>>> weeks.
>>>>
>>>> But, still, you have the actual form with that guy's name, right?
>>>
>>> Ive got a copy of his birth cert tucked away at my dads place. Im pretty
>>> sure, though its been...hum...30 yrs since I looked in the footlocker.
>>> No need. That portion of my life is long, long, long over.
>>
>> That means you're missing out on VA medical care. Top shelf in this
>> part of the country. There's a pecking order of sorts to VA benefits.
>> If you're a veteran of a war and have a purple heart or two they cover
>> almost everything.
>>
>> Karl
>
>
> Yes, I am. As has been discussed with several individuals, including
> the VA.
>
> That rather surprising $250k medical bill brought it to mind and Ive put
> some feelers out.
>
> The VA claims its doable, but may take a few years.
>
>
> Gunner
>
It WILL take a few years.
The system is designed to be that way.
All along the way there are traps for the unwary.
1) DON'T try to do it yourself. Not Possible.
Get a representative agency like DAV and have them do it.
You sign a power of attorney, and they take it from there.
2) If your claim is valid (AND HAS DOCUMENTATION TO PROVE IT)
you will receive a low percentage rating (in about a year).
At that time you have 30 days to protest the rating.
If you protest that rating (within 30 days!) then the next rating
percentage (in about a year) will backdate to the original claim date.
Back pay will be paid back to the date of the first claim -
each time you get an increase in rating -
IF you protest the rating within 30 days -
every time.
If you don't then come back later for an increase, it's basically a new
claim, dated starting them. Oopsie!
Generally they like to go 10%, 30%, 50%, 75%, and finally 100%.
So figure it taking 4 or 5 years.
Ed Huntress
"Ned Simmons" <ne...@nedsim.com> wrote in message
news:4ego76t4miagqaf87...@4ax.com...
Don't tempt me. We have a hurricane coming in two or three days. I used to
*love* hurricanes. <g>
--
Ed Huntress
Sunworshipper
wrote:
How's that go... AHh... You can fool me twice ahhh
No not that one.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make 'em drink.
SW
RBnDFW
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Personnel_Records_Center_fire
> \
>
> My sis and I are still working two years later to get my father's medals,
> several distinguished service medals and crosses, and some others. When
> they sent us the copied documents, all of them had singe marks on them. We
> got lucky. Now if we can only get them off their asses.
>
> Anyone know how to speed up this process?
Steve, have your asked your congressman to get involved?
That's one of the few things they are good for, especially in an
election year.
--
I can see November from my front porch
rangerssuck
24925.invalid> wrote:
> On 2010-08-30, rangerssuck <rangerss...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Don't know about skateboarding, but I am a pretty proficient ice
> > skater. I tried roller blading a few years back, and it scared the
> > crap out of me. Fall on ice and you slide. Fall on pavement and you
> > leave skin behind.
>
> > I would suggest, if you're going to go ahead with this, a helmet,
> > wrist elbow and knee pads (all available as a set from any skate
> > shop). And, by all means, be prepared to look silly. It's no where
> > near as easy as it looks - I know this from a few of the neighborhood
> > kids who are all excellent ice and roller skaters and have tried their
> > hand (or foot) at skate boarding. One of them has an interesting
> > device - a two-wheeled contraption called a wave board. It goes
> > amazingly fast and is very maneuverable, and it loooks easy enough to
> > build.
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X70NitDFM4A
>
> > Good luck.
>
> I am not looking to performing any feats worthy of YouTube, etc. I
> would say, nothing where all wheels are in the air simultaneously.
> Just riding around and such. I would not try to look cool in front of
> skateboard savvy kids, and I have generally been careful.
>
> A skate board is a whole new way of balancing and it just needs to be
> learned. (or maybe I cannot learn it, boo hoo)
>
> i
Agreed. But you should wear the appropriate protective equipment. You
wouldn't run your mill while "just learning" without safety glasses,
would you?
Steve B
Adults don't bounce nearly as good as kids do.
HTH
pyotr filipivich
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>
>>Guy I knew landed in country 9 Feb. '68. Had his own body bag 16 Feb.
>>'68. Remember what was happening then? No more voluntary enlistments
>>in my part of the world after that.
>>
>>Karl - drew #312 in the lottery - Townsend
>
>There but for the grace of God.....
>
>older brother of a buddy of mine, about 68 or 69, got off the plane, got
>on a bus, was blown up within 1/4 mile of the air base, was tucked right
>back on that same plane and flown to Japan Total time in country..about
>2 hours. He ultimately lost a leg. Shrug....some people have good luck,
>some bad.
Sgt Armstrong had a buddy shot in the door of the Freedom Bird.
Absolutely the last possible moment to get shot.
> Im still very much undecided as to what kind of luck Mike had.
>He retired a couple years ago, after nearly 30 years selling insurance.
>Did quite well for himself.
If you are happy, or just plan content, with your life; then it
was a good one. I joke, but there is truth - you're not getting out
of it, so you might as well enjoy it. Work, school, travel, chores,
life v- might as well enjoy the ride.
pyotr
--
pyotr filipivich
We will drink no whiskey before its nine.
It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!
pyotr filipivich
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
><pittma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>>> The only hard part is fingerprints. Shrug
>>>
>>> Gunner
>>
>>And now with AFIS, even tougher.
>>
>>Steve
>>
>
>Its quite legal to call yourself Queen of the May. One cant do it
>though to commit crimes, fraud etc etc. One doesnt even need to go to
>court to have ones name changed.
I've known people who had one name on their birth certificate, but
everybody calls them by another name.
As the one guy put it "A is my legal name, D is well, 'not' ..."
>
>Shrug
Le Shrug. Cie L'vie. Und so weiter.
Gerald Miller
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> on Mon, 30 Aug 2010 23:28:59 -0700
>typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>>On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 21:39:00 -0700, "Steve B"
>><pittma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>>> The only hard part is fingerprints. Shrug
>>>>
>>>> Gunner
>>>
>>>And now with AFIS, even tougher.
>>>
>>>Steve
>>>
>>
>>Its quite legal to call yourself Queen of the May. One cant do it
>>though to commit crimes, fraud etc etc. One doesnt even need to go to
>>court to have ones name changed.
>
> I've known people who had one name on their birth certificate, but
>everybody calls them by another name.
> As the one guy put it "A is my legal name, D is well, 'not' ..."
My wife goes by her middle name but all documents use her first given
- confuses a lot of people. In secondary school, I was often asked how
I was related to the person bearing the short version of my first
given.
>>Shrug
>
> Le Shrug. Cie L'vie. Und so weiter.
>
>pyotr
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada
Larry Jaques
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> on Mon, 30 Aug 2010 14:40:18 -0700
>typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>>
>>>Guy I knew landed in country 9 Feb. '68. Had his own body bag 16 Feb.
>>>'68. Remember what was happening then? No more voluntary enlistments
>>>in my part of the world after that.
>>>
>>>Karl - drew #312 in the lottery - Townsend
>>
>>There but for the grace of God.....
>>
>>older brother of a buddy of mine, about 68 or 69, got off the plane, got
>>on a bus, was blown up within 1/4 mile of the air base, was tucked right
>>back on that same plane and flown to Japan Total time in country..about
>>2 hours. He ultimately lost a leg. Shrug....some people have good luck,
>>some bad.
>
> Sgt Armstrong had a buddy shot in the door of the Freedom Bird.
>Absolutely the last possible moment to get shot.
Ouch. Then there are the guys who have had thousands of round go over
their heads in the field only to come home to be knifed by a junkie a
block away from his home in broad daylight.
>> Im still very much undecided as to what kind of luck Mike had.
>>He retired a couple years ago, after nearly 30 years selling insurance.
>>Did quite well for himself.
>
> If you are happy, or just plan content, with your life; then it
>was a good one. I joke, but there is truth - you're not getting out
>of it, so you might as well enjoy it. Work, school, travel, chores,
>life v- might as well enjoy the ride.
Uncle Abe had a nice saying 'bout that:
Most people are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.
--
Happiness comes of the capacity to feel deeply, to enjoy
simply, to think freely, to risk life, to be needed.
-- Storm Jameson
pyotr filipivich
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>>Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> on Mon, 30 Aug 2010 23:28:59 -0700
>>typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
>>>>"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> The only hard part is fingerprints. Shrug
>>>>> Gunner
>>>>And now with AFIS, even tougher.
>>>>
>>>>Steve
>>>>
>>>Its quite legal to call yourself Queen of the May. One cant do it
>>>though to commit crimes, fraud etc etc. One doesnt even need to go to
>>>court to have ones name changed.
>>
>> I've known people who had one name on their birth certificate, but
>>everybody calls them by another name.
>> As the one guy put it "A is my legal name, D is well, 'not' ..."
>My wife goes by her middle name but all documents use her first given
>- confuses a lot of people. In secondary school, I was often asked how
>I was related to the person bearing the short version of my first
>given.
The best story I've heard was of the Colonel traveling to his new
assignment, and as they were enroute, his wife decided that she didn't
want be called by either her first name, or her nickname, but by
something else. Okay, it is a free country. But when they arrive at
the base, and he meets the other officers of his new command, during
the introductions he forgets what she wants to be called, and so turns
to her and asks "What did you say your name was, dear?" Just the
thing to make that all important first impression.
Rich Grise
> I have to admit to having almost never ridden a skateboard, certainly
> I am a complete novice. My older kid started to learn it and I am
> wondering, can an adult pick that skill up or is it too late.
>
> A related question is what skateboard would be good for an adult sized
> beginner. I just want it to be easy to use.
>
Why a skateboard? Why do what everybody else is doing?
Learn to ride a unicycle!
For a skateboard, strap a thick pillow to your butt. ;-)
Have Fun!
Rich
Rich Grise
> On Aug 30, 12:06 pm, "Buerste" <buer...@buerste.com> wrote:
>> "Ignoramus4078" <ignoramus4...@NOSPAM.4078.invalid> wrote in message
>> > On 2010-08-30, Buerste <buer...@buerste.com> wrote:
>> >> "Ignoramus4078" <ignoramus4...@NOSPAM.4078.invalid> wrote in message
>> >>news:XJudnaKuCOKhk-bR...@giganews.com...
>> >>>I have to admit to having almost never ridden a skateboard, certainly
>> >>> I am a complete novice. My older kid started to learn it and I am
>> >>> wondering, can an adult pick that skill up or is it too late.
>>
>> >>> A related question is what skateboard would be good for an adult sized
>> >>> beginner. I just want it to be easy to use.
>>
>>
>> > It is relatively decent, yes.
>>
>> Go for it! (knee pads, elbow pads and a helmet)- Hide quoted text -
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> wrist guards and gloves, too.
And a big one for the butt. ;-)
Cheers!
Rich