There are so many "just one" items around. Fire
extinguisher, tourniquet, attorney on retainer. Makes a good
subject to discuss. What are some other "just one use" and
it's paid for itself items?
Rotary rasp or file tool
Actetylene torch
Lathe with digital monitoring
First aid kit
spare tire for the car
bear spray when hiking
Other items?
--
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What's in the bear spray, napalm?
AKA bear repellant, AKA pepper spray, it burns without combustion.
There have supposedly been instances where noobs have applied it like
mosquito repellant. I prefer units with a heavy lead content, myself,
say 10mm to 12 ga. In some states you can get bear repellant where
pepper spray is outlawed. Same cans, different lettering.
Stan
Bob Swinney
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"Jim Wilkins" <kb1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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It's just extra 'hot' pepper spray. The canister usually has a bit more
volume and range as well.
Erik
And the Bear Spray tends to shoot farther and with more volume, then
small cans of "pepper spray"
There are a couple advances of pepperspray over bullets
1. Doesnt harm the animal
2.Tends to temporarily blind them so they cant see you to attack.
On the other hand...#2 is really really Iffy.....
Carry a caliber suitable to stop the attack, and use pepper spray as
your first line of defense..but be also prepared to quickly switch to
the caliber you chose if the spray doesnt fend off the attack.
Gunner
"I believe that being despised by the despicable
is as good as being admired by the admirable."
From long experience myself, I can only say, "You betcha."
Just make sure you're up wind of the critter. Less chance of
'blow back'.
>
>Carry a caliber suitable to stop the attack, and use pepper spray as
>your first line of defense..but be also prepared to quickly switch to
>the caliber you chose if the spray doesnt fend off the attack.
"Attention campers. The correct answer to 'What do you do when
faced with abear in the wild?' is not 'Butter up the fat kid and push
him in front!'!"
pyotr
-
pyotr filipivich
We will drink no whiskey before its nine.
It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!
Dial 911?
Actually I've stood still and they just walked past.
jsw
>Jim sez
>"What's in the bear spray, napalm?" Naw, better if the spray contains sex pheromones, so you can
>through on your hunting companion while you get Hell out of there..
How fast do you have to run to out run a bear? Faster than the guy next to you.
Wes
They can be sneaky, though. My uncle was trout fishing on Pine Creek in PA
many years ago, and stepped out of the stream to eat some blackberries off a
bush. He was just getting into it when he heard a "woof," looked around, and
saw a second-year cub eating blackberries on the other side of the bush. The
bear spun around and ran off -- but not before discharging fully digested
blueberries all up and down the uncle. <g>
--
Ed Huntress
(...)
> Mr. Bill's sliver grippers and a magnifying light, 3x.
> Gets used more than once though, might not count. ;>))
> phil
An excellent tool for almost No Money.
http://www.slivergripper.peachhost.com/
http://www.slivergripper.peachhost.com/ct_catalog.htm
I've had one on my key ring for many years.
--Winston <-- Just a Happy Customer!
--
Michael Koblic,
Campbell River, BC
I've been buying Victorinox Classics for a couple decades now. Target
has them on sale for $10 every once in awhile, and I even got one for
one of my girlfriends who often borrowed mine. I've had red and blue
ones, but not the pink translucent or USA versions. The little
tweezers on them are very good. http://tinyurl.com/ycvx5jv
And they're good for years and years, not just one use.
--
Stay centered by accepting whatever you are doing. This is the ultimate.
-- Chuang-tzu
I've friend who acquired the name "Snuffles". Out on the trail
one morning in Yellowstone (where he worked) came round a bend and
there was a small bear. He froze, it froze. Then the bear came
towards him, took a couple sniffs, turned around and went back the way
he'd come. When the bear was out of sight so did Mike.
I've also heard of blackberry pickers being out and realizing that
on the other side of the bramble, are some bears. So as long as
everybody doesn't make any sudden loud noises, stays on their side,
and there are plenty of berries - alles gut! But now you understand
why women tend to chatter. "Just little ol' me, over here on this
side, Mrs Bruin, not anywhere near where you and the cubs are."
Any tool from Harbor Fright, more than one use is a bonus!
David
Yeah, that's the one. My brain kept thinking Mr. Bill not
Uncle Bill! Another 'tool' I have is a broken 3/8 solid
carbide atrax straight flute die drill that was snapped off
on
breakthrough that resulted in a spiral shaped shank
coming to a point and has an exceptionally sharp edge!
I used it to carve away a bothersome wart on my finger.
Once I got it ringed after several sessions the wart was
just pleading for release and that sharp edge cut it off
pretty as you please. The wart is gone, forever....;>))
Not for the faint of heart though....heh heh
phil
Depends on ones relations with ones children. Id have slavered meat
sauce and put some fresh uncooked steaks in my sons shirt pocket if we
had been anyplace there were bears of any note.
Gunner
>
>
>pyotr
>-
>pyotr filipivich
>We will drink no whiskey before its nine.
>It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!
"I believe that being despised by the despicable
Growing up in Michgian, on the Ausable River..fly fishing country..had
lots and lots and lots of black bear. Lots of em.
Been more times then I could count Id be fly fishing with bears eating
blueberrys all around me. Caught one with a Royal Coachman once..right
on the tip of her nose, on back cast. She went cross eyed trying to
figure out what had bitten her nose..and I snapped the line forwards and
pulled it out of her snozz. She pissed and moaned for a couple minutes
then went back to eating berries.
Had a few old timers get pissy a time or two, but most of them were
pretty much used to and moderatly cautious around humans.
Actually..to be fair..unless you are buying the 2 for a dollar
tools..the vast majority of the HF tools are decent enough.
After the burglary to my truck, where persons unknown got $11,000 worth
of tools, SnapOn etc etc from my service truck..I bought HF sockets, box
ends, crescents etc etc. And I still havent broken a single one. And I
make my living repairing machine tools with em.
And if I need to make a Special tool..I dont cringe about cutting,
welding, bending etc etc a HF tool.
And they are cheap enough to replace.
>A friend of mine just wrote to remind me of a good book. You
>and the Police is an excellent book by Boston T Party. Pays
>for itself in just one traffic or other ticket.
>
>There are so many "just one" items around. Fire
>extinguisher, tourniquet, attorney on retainer. Makes a good
>subject to discuss. What are some other "just one use" and
>it's paid for itself items?
>
>Rotary rasp or file tool
>Actetylene torch
>Lathe with digital monitoring
>First aid kit
>spare tire for the car
>bear spray when hiking
>
>Other items?
Anchor on a Toyota?
(...)
> The wart is gone, forever....;>))
> Not for the faint of heart though....heh heh
> phil
Inverted can of 'duster' spray makes
actinic keritosis lesions exit stage right.
Takes a while (and the first couple layers of
skin)....
--Winston
That's Charles in the hammock. He's a Counselor at a Summer Camp...
and used to go there when he was a kid. He's the sort of counselor
that the kids love, but the parents can't stand.
What makes the "experience" so much fun is that the Camp is now
sponsored by the ASPCA, PETA, The American Academy of Child and
Adolescent Psychiatry, and Greenpeace." In other words, not a single
group which knows beans about Nature, true Native American History, or
children under the age of 24.
I think you'll like it.
Buttered fatassses, meat sauce and uncooked steaks are way far yonder
behind bacon grease as bear bait.
Justice is a sex offender lashed to a tree in the northwoods,
liberally smeared with bacon grease, perhaps not far from the
sex-offender prison (with color TV) in Moose Lake he dodged by legal
chicanary. The prison is full but the northwoods is capacious.
Bookmarked!!
Gunner
>
>
>
>-
>pyotr filipivich
>We will drink no whiskey before its nine.
>It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!
"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.
This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost
Marvelous cartoon! I just read em start to finish. Funny as hell and
accurate.
Had me laughing hysterically in a number of places.
Gunner, one time camp counseler
Bob Swinney
"Wes" <clu...@lycos.com> wrote in message
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>There are so many "just one" items around. Fire
>extinguisher, tourniquet, attorney on retainer. Makes a good
>subject to discuss. What are some other "just one use" and
>it's paid for itself items?
Well, I've always been satisfied by first use of toilet paper. Never tried to reuse it.
Air Bags if they deploy and you walk away.
Then there is the whole aircraft parachute. Same disclaimer as above.
http://www.brsparachutes.com/brs_aviation_home.aspx
Obviously if you fly aerobatic and use your FAA mandated personal chute once, that
qualifies also.
I doubt the Martin Baker ejection seat gets reused.
There is a saw stop technology that can sense your finger touching a table saw blade and
stop the blade. It works once and then you replace it.
Back when I was injecting either fertility drugs into my now ex wife's buttocks or insulin
into my dogs back, I figured one use on a syringe and needle was worth it.
I'm going to toss spare tire in. I've never used the spare for my Saturn, or my escort. I
did once for my Ranger, shortly after the front tire left my truck at 70 mph never to be
found again by me.
If you go through the trouble of taking self defense courses, obtain a carry permit, deal
with carrying issues and need and have it just once. It was worth it.
Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller
>Naw, Wes. I meant run whilst the bear is attracted to the other guy. Too bad if it happens to be
>your hunting companion.
What are you guys hunting with? I'm starting to think keeping a few 20ga slugs with me
while bird hunting might be a good idea.
Wes
>Any tool from Harbor Fright, more than one use is a bonus!
I bought some rolling head pry bars. Each lasted less than one use.
Same for some metal stamps. One hit on 1018 and my O stamp is now in BOLD FONT.
Wes
Ayup. And they are rather cheap if you buy em in 5 packs. Works a treat
on bigger game, 2 and four legged, and does a rather decent job on the
passenger compartments of motor vehicles.
I think Walmart sells em for $3.95 for 5 or there about.
Gunner
Right on! Recent developments on the Toyota scene should put all Greenies out of the Prius mood.
Bob Swinney
"Don Foreman" <dfor...@NOSPAMgoldengate.net> wrote in message
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I had the opposite happen. I lost my prized, slim 8" pry bar that I use to
pull nails in tight places. I ordered the closest I could find on eBay, and it
opened flat during the first use, it had no heat treatment at all. A few days
later I was in HF and saw a two pack and figured, can't be any worse for 3
bucks. I tried one out on a nearby vise and it seemed OK. They are perfectly
heat treated and tough as all get out.
But that the problem with Chinese goods, it's a crap shoot. Especially with
metal properties.
--
Dennis
>On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:35:20 -0500, Wes <clu...@lycos.com> wrote:
>
>>"Robert Swinney" <jud...@tx.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Naw, Wes. I meant run whilst the bear is attracted to the other guy. Too bad if it happens to be
>>>your hunting companion.
>>
>>
>>What are you guys hunting with? I'm starting to think keeping a few 20ga slugs with me
>>while bird hunting might be a good idea.
>>
>>Wes
>
>
>Ayup. And they are rather cheap if you buy em in 5 packs. Works a treat
>on bigger game, 2 and four legged, and does a rather decent job on the
>passenger compartments of motor vehicles.
Are you going to explain that last part, mon? <vbg>
--
There is no such thing as limits to growth, because there are no limits
to the human capacity for intelligence, imagination, and wonder.
-- Ronald Reagan
>"David R.Birch" <dbi...@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>Any tool from Harbor Fright, more than one use is a bonus!
>
>I bought some rolling head pry bars. Each lasted less than one use.
The 4-piece set? I still have mine 30 years later but only use it for
alignment and as a jack handle. I think I've used one or another of
them for prying two pieces of wood apart, too. Nothing rough.
>Same for some metal stamps. One hit on 1018 and my O stamp is now in BOLD FONT.
Oops! I haven't tried mine yet.
>>I bought some rolling head pry bars. Each lasted less than one use.
>
>The 4-piece set? I still have mine 30 years later but only use it for
>alignment and as a jack handle. I think I've used one or another of
>them for prying two pieces of wood apart, too. Nothing rough.
I bought 2 4 piece sets while attending NAMES last year. I've killed four of them in
matching pairs.
My Sears pry and a coupe of Mc Master Carr pry's are going strong still.
>
>
>>Same for some metal stamps. One hit on 1018 and my O stamp is now in BOLD FONT.
>
>Oops! I haven't tried mine yet.
Try all the characters, I suspect they HT one character at a time in a large batch with
typical varying results.
Wes
>Don goes, "Anchor on a Toyota?"
>
>Right on! Recent developments on the Toyota scene should put all Greenies out of the Prius mood.
I'm thinking of a Toyota with a drag racing drag chute mounted for those JIC moments. :)
Wes
>> I'm thinking of a Toyota with a drag racing drag chute mounted for those =
>JIC moments. :)
>>
>> Wes
>
>A fuel pump cutoff switch?
And a battery cut out if a Prius.
Wes
I learned to handle WOT on a '84 Citation - drove it 7 miles to get
off the thruway and to a location where I could kick the b*tch loose
without hitting neutral and let it blow the engine.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada
>Larry Jaques <lja...@diversify.invalid> wrote:
>
>>>I bought some rolling head pry bars. Each lasted less than one use.
>>
>>The 4-piece set? I still have mine 30 years later but only use it for
>>alignment and as a jack handle. I think I've used one or another of
>>them for prying two pieces of wood apart, too. Nothing rough.
>
>I bought 2 4 piece sets while attending NAMES last year. I've killed four of them in
>matching pairs.
Are they breaking from being too brittle, or bending due to lack of
hardening?
>My Sears pry and a coupe of Mc Master Carr pry's are going strong still.
Bueno. My HF digging bar is just peachy. The medium pry bar with a
round and a flat chisel end is softer than hell on the round end.
>>>Same for some metal stamps. One hit on 1018 and my O stamp is now in BOLD FONT.
>>
>>Oops! I haven't tried mine yet.
>
>Try all the characters, I suspect they HT one character at a time in a large batch with
>typical varying results.
That would tend to suck. I'd have to go to HF and say "Hi, Mr.
Manager. I'm going to need all your sets of alphanumeric stamps, a
hammer, and a place to sit and try them. Here are the bad characters
from the set I bought. I brought my own metal to sample 'em."
Hmm, I wonder if it's just not worth it? <g>
>"Robert Swinney" <jud...@tx.rr.com> wrote:
I haven't had to flip the switch and stand on the brakes yet. <shrug>
As one of the new counselors is tempted "We're in the center of
five hundred acres of woods ..."
You might find "Nip and Tuck" a hoot , as well as "Quinton Questor
Space Ranger!" (He tears into the whole Star Trek mythos with a
chainsaw...)
I just laugh my self silly reading them. And inflicting them on
friends.
>On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:08:43 -0500, the infamous Wes
><clu...@lycos.com> scrawled the following:
>
>>Larry Jaques <lja...@diversify.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>>I bought some rolling head pry bars. Each lasted less than one use.
>>>
>>>The 4-piece set? I still have mine 30 years later but only use it for
>>>alignment and as a jack handle. I think I've used one or another of
>>>them for prying two pieces of wood apart, too. Nothing rough.
>>
>>I bought 2 4 piece sets while attending NAMES last year. I've killed four of them in
>>matching pairs.
>
>Are they breaking from being too brittle, or bending due to lack of
>hardening?
>
Snapped like peanut brittle.
>
>>My Sears pry and a coupe of Mc Master Carr pry's are going strong still.
>
>Bueno. My HF digging bar is just peachy. The medium pry bar with a
>round and a flat chisel end is softer than hell on the round end.
Variable quality. We had a local place that sold chineese tools until it folded. Their
tools tended to be a-ok, never had to return any.
>
>
>>>>Same for some metal stamps. One hit on 1018 and my O stamp is now in BOLD FONT.
>>>
>>>Oops! I haven't tried mine yet.
Might as well test them. Rc50 is what a good stamp should be able to mark iirc.
Obviously, the harder the target you stamp, the shorter the stamp life.
>>
>>Try all the characters, I suspect they HT one character at a time in a large batch with
>>typical varying results.
>
>That would tend to suck. I'd have to go to HF and say "Hi, Mr.
>Manager. I'm going to need all your sets of alphanumeric stamps, a
>hammer, and a place to sit and try them. Here are the bad characters
>from the set I bought. I brought my own metal to sample 'em."
Might as well.
>
>Hmm, I wonder if it's just not worth it? <g>
I'm thinking I need a lead to a source of quality stamps and just go with it. Expecting
China at a low price point to get things right 36-40 times in a row is not realistic.
Wes
What if they are already buttered? Or better yet, covered in honey
after getting into a beehive? ;-)
--
Lead free solder is Belgium's version of 'Hold my beer and watch this!'
You had a '73 Corona? The poor design let the brake pads to eject if
you had to brake hard, in reverse. It could have used two anchors. :(
If the bear doesn't have freinds...
Except for mothers with cubs I think bears avoid each other. There
aren't too many animals that get along well. Watch a bird feeder for
instance. Even mating pairs don't share.
jsw
jsw
Reply: Depends on the birds. The Sparrows, doves, finches all share our
feeder. Only thing that stops them at about 30 is there is no more room on
the perches, rim, or tray underneath.
Around here only the chickadees will share. The male cardinal makes
the female wait elsewhere although there is a second perch on the
opposite side.
I was feeding some disgusting cheese crackers to seagulls and noticed
that one big, tough-looking but crippled one dominated the rest. When
I tossed them closer than he dared approach he wouldn't let any of the
others past, so I had him hobbling back and forth playing goalie in
front of a line of crackers. After a minute or so I threw them the
whole bag and backed away.
jsw
They don't have to get along, to hunt.
>On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:57:23 -0800, the infamous Gunner Asch
><gunne...@gmail.com> scrawled the following:
>
>>On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:35:20 -0500, Wes <clu...@lycos.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"Robert Swinney" <jud...@tx.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Naw, Wes. I meant run whilst the bear is attracted to the other guy. Too bad if it happens to be
>>>>your hunting companion.
>>>
>>>
>>>What are you guys hunting with? I'm starting to think keeping a few 20ga slugs with me
>>>while bird hunting might be a good idea.
>>>
>>>Wes
>>
>>
>>Ayup. And they are rather cheap if you buy em in 5 packs. Works a treat
>>on bigger game, 2 and four legged, and does a rather decent job on the
>>passenger compartments of motor vehicles.
>
>Are you going to explain that last part, mon? <vbg>
Think it actually needs an explaination? Slugs work better than
buckshot when one needs to put leaks in motor vehicles and their
contents.
Shrug