Re: There is no Benghazi story....just a huge flow of Republican bullshit

[Transition Zone]

On May 12, 9:48 pm, AlleyCat <al...@aohell.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 12 May 2013 18:09:22 -0600, In article
> <tlb0p8po81iktu9hd4h04ht1b8rq0ld...@4ax.com>, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net
> says...
>
> > IDIOT
>
> Liar

Republican's last words: Benghazi, Dr Gosnell, Benghazi, Dr Gosnell,
Benghazi, Dr Gosnell !!!!

[Kirby Grant]

Don't forget "ga ga boo boo" and other non-sensical sounds that are made by
little babies.

[PrecisionmachinisT]

<Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig> wrote in message news:6967p8dufqj26p28i...@4ax.com...

> Glenn Beck- Why Obama Hid the Truth of Benghazi ?

Another Republican sideshow....

--Christopher Stevens was twice offered additional security and both times, he declined.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/report-stevens-declined-security-91406.html?ml=la

[FirstPost]

So the fact that the CIA gave weeks in advance warning to the state
department and reports were rewritten in order to CYA Clinton, Obama
and others and the bald faced lie that a video clip that at that point
had only been viewed by around 300 people was the cause aren't
important?
Get a clue and give up on the stupid simple minded statements. Such
things are obviously way too far above your head for your level of
comprehension.

[PrecisionmachinisT]

"FirstPost" <AIOE_posters_...@AIOE.org> wrote in message news:05h7p8l5m5dak9tuf...@4ax.com...

> On Wed, 15 May 2013 09:20:46 -0700, "PrecisionmachinisT"
> <123mac...@notmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>><Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig> wrote in message news:6967p8dufqj26p28i...@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 14 May 2013 13:54:39 -0700 (PDT), Transition Zone
>>> <mog...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 12, 9:48 pm, AlleyCat <al...@aohell.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 12 May 2013 18:09:22 -0600, In article
>>>>> <tlb0p8po81iktu9hd4h04ht1b8rq0ld...@4ax.com>, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net
>>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>> > IDIOT
>>>>>
>>>>> Liar
>>>>
>>>>Republican's last words: Benghazi, Dr Gosnell, Benghazi, Dr Gosnell,
>>>>Benghazi, Dr Gosnell !!!!
>>>
>>> Glenn Beck- Why Obama Hid the Truth of Benghazi ?
>>
>>Another Republican sideshow....
>>
>>--Christopher Stevens was twice offered additional security and both times, he declined.
>>
>>http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/report-stevens-declined-security-91406.html?ml=la
>
> So the fact that the CIA gave weeks in advance warning to the state
> department and reports were rewritten in order to CYA Clinton, Obama

Keep the bullshit flowing...

> and others and the bald faced lie that a video clip that at that point
> had only been viewed by around 300 people was the cause aren't
> important?
> Get a clue and give up on the stupid simple minded statements. Such
> things are obviously way too far above your head for your level of
> comprehension.

KooK

[STEADY EDDY]

This is a story about fallible human beings making a mistake. Instead
of trying to learn about better ways to prevent this type of attack in
the future the Republicans want to play the blame game. It was her
fault or his fault whatever. More politics instead of solving the
problem

[Joe Cooper]

STEADY EDDY <steady...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:4a268e31-a102-4dab-
ae9f-ae9...@li6g2000pbb.googlegroups.com:

> This is a story about fallible human beings making a mistake. Instead
> of trying to learn about better ways to prevent this type of attack in
> the future the Republicans want to play the blame game. It was her
> fault or his fault whatever. More politics instead of solving the
> problem

This would be fine...except you forgot to mention that the president, the
secretary of state and the ambassador to the United Nations all lied to
the American people. While Ambassador Rice may not have knowingly lied,
it is now very clear that Obama and Mrs. Clinton DID lie knowingly.

That issue cannot, and will not, be swept under the rug.

--
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Leftists think and act like protofascists. Control is the key. And
control through fear, threat of force, and rhetorical intimidation
is the modus operandi. (Ben Shapro, "Bullies")

[Robert A. Leffingwell]

"Joe Cooper" <nieqez...@tormail.org> wrote in message
news:XnsA1C182FF979...@78.46.70.116...

>
> This would be fine...except you forgot to mention that the president, the
> secretary of state and the ambassador to the United Nations all lied to
> the American people. While Ambassador Rice may not have knowingly lied,
> it is now very clear that Obama and Mrs. Clinton DID lie knowingly.

Nothing was forgotten. Your definition of "lie" defies common sense, logic
and the English language.

An example of a lie is announcing in the State of the Union that Iraq is
importing fissionable materials out of Niger and was part of the conspiracy
that resulted in 9/11. Then the GOP used that lie as an excuse to create a
war with Iraq whose sole purpose was to provide no-bid contracts for
Blackwater's mercenaries and to benefit Halliburton.

What is not a lie is telling the American people that terrorists, perhaps
emboldened by actions in Egypt, killed American diplomats then correcting
the syntax of that statement three days later.

The bottom line is that the American people through their voting, giving
Obama a 5.9 MILLION vote margin thus recognizing the GOP members of congress
as obstructionists with no plan other than to obstruct. The Republican
Party by not creating a single instance of anything to create jobs for the
middle class and countering the will of 90% of the voters by filibustering
against sensible firearms safety needed something -- ANYTHING -- to grab and
found this insignificant misuse of language and trying to turn it into the
biggest crime since the GOP orchestrated an attack on the DNC offices at the
Watergate.

[Too_Many_Tools]

On May 15, 2:26 pm, "Robert A. Leffingwell"
<RALeffingw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Joe Cooper" <nieqezbmv...@tormail.org> wrote in message

Well said.

Their attempt to keep the " Benghazi issue" alive is fueled by the
fact that Ms. Clinton is likely the (winning) Democratic Presidental
candidate for 2016.

If the Republicans want to keep talking Benghazi, they might want to
explain to the American public why they refused to fund the additional
security requests from the State Department...which resulted in
insufficient security at ALL locations.

TMT

[Edward A. Falk]

In article <2c62ff17-49a4-4a25...@k6g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,

Too_Many_Tools <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Their attempt to keep the " Benghazi issue" alive is fueled by the
>fact that Ms. Clinton is likely the (winning) Democratic Presidental
>candidate for 2016.
>
>If the Republicans want to keep talking Benghazi, they might want to
>explain to the American public why they refused to fund the additional
>security requests from the State Department...which resulted in
>insufficient security at ALL locations.

Oh, then there's this:

CNN exclusive: White House email contradicts Benghazi leaks
http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/14/cnn-exclusive-white-house-email-contradicts-benghazi-leaks/


--
-Ed Falk, fa...@despams.r.us.com
http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/

[Gunner Asch]

What..you mean its not Bush's Fault (tm)?

Funny how you Leftwingers suddenly change your modus operandi when its
YOUR fuckheads that screw the pooch..isnt it?

<VBG>

Gunner

--
"You guess the truth hurts?

Really?

"Hurt" aint the word.

For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.
Raid� to a cockroach.
Sheriff Brody to a shark
Bush to a Liberal

The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
dick as a brake.

They HATE the truth."

[Joe Cooper]

"Robert A. Leffingwell" <RALeff...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:kn0n9o$oad$1...@dont-email.me:

> Nothing was forgotten. Your definition of "lie" defies common sense,
> logic and the English language.

Hardly. We know, from sworn testimony, that Hillary Clinton was informed,
at 2:00 AM, during the attack, that there was a terror attack.

We also know that she told the American people that a video was the cause
of the attack, rather than terrorism. That was a lie, and she knew it was
a lie.

She and the Obamessiah then made a commercial for the Pakistani market
which apologized for the video, again blaming it for the terror attack.

Those are but two examples of documented lies.

[Gunner Asch]

On Wed, 15 May 2013 15:26:22 -0400, "Robert A. Leffingwell"
<RALeff...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>An example of a lie is announcing in the State of the Union that Iraq is
>importing fissionable materials out of Niger and was part of the conspiracy
>that resulted in 9/11. Then the GOP used that lie as an excuse to create a
>war with Iraq whose sole purpose was to provide no-bid contracts for
>Blackwater's mercenaries and to benefit Halliburton.

Thats a fine example of a bunch of lies! And you do it so very
straight faced too!!

Nice job! Sure you dont work for the DNC? You really should apply
for a job..your a natural liar!!
You will do well there!!!!!

[Chrissy Dêgeer]

On 5/15/2013 1:20 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Wed, 15 May 2013 15:26:22 -0400, "Robert A. Leffingwell"
> <RALeff...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> An example of a lie is announcing in the State of the Union that Iraq is
>> importing fissionable materials out of Niger and was part of the conspiracy
>> that resulted in 9/11. Then the GOP used that lie as an excuse to create a
>> war with Iraq whose sole purpose was to provide no-bid contracts for
>> Blackwater's mercenaries and to benefit Halliburton.
>
>
> Thats a fine example of a bunch of lies!

It sure is. Bush did all of that, all based on lies.

[Robert A. Leffingwell]

"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:7er7p8p96s2fjmnqa...@4ax.com...

> On Wed, 15 May 2013 15:26:22 -0400, "Robert A. Leffingwell"
> <RALeff...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>An example of a lie is announcing in the State of the Union that Iraq is
>>importing fissionable materials out of Niger and was part of the
>>conspiracy
>>that resulted in 9/11. Then the GOP used that lie as an excuse to create
>>a
>>war with Iraq whose sole purpose was to provide no-bid contracts for
>>Blackwater's mercenaries and to benefit Halliburton.
>
>
> Thats a fine example of a bunch of lies! And you do it so very
> straight faced too!!

Nah... 4500 dead Americans have the straight face based on lies that morons
like the Gunner believe as the truth.

But don't get me wrong. We need morons like the Gunner! Assholes are
crucial to our economy! Someone has to buy those overpriced gold coins
Glenn Beck and Mark Levin sell.

[Tom Gardner]

On 5/15/2013 1:29 PM, FirstPost wrote:
> So the fact that the CIA gave weeks in advance warning to the state
> department and reports were rewritten in order to CYA Clinton, Obama
> and others and the bald faced lie that a video clip that at that point
> had only been viewed by around 300 people was the cause aren't
> important?
> Get a clue and give up on the stupid simple minded statements. Such
> things are obviously way too far above your head for your level of
> comprehension.
>

Plonk the asshole! His monotone left diatribe doesn't want to be seen
by anyone, even second hand.

[Tom Gardner]

Who's "Bush"? What does "Bush" have to do with Obama and Clinton lying
about a terrorist attack they have conquered terrorism before a
presidential election? Are you that confused?

[Robert A. Leffingwell]

"Tom Gardner" <Mars@Tacks> wrote in message
news:GbSdnRuTG5tlgAnM...@giganews.com...

If anyone is confused it's you. Your problem is that you have been around
Republican shit so long, you have no idea what the truth is.

Bush is a fool and Cheney is a liar whose only interest in Iraq was in the
cause of no-bid contracts from Eric Prince and for Halliburton.

If you had an IQ greater than 70 I would explain that a lie is telling
everyone that Iraq is building nuke-you-lar weapons and we need to go to war
with Iraq. And, oh yeah... we need million dollar mercenaries from
Blackwater and $150 per hour truck drivers from Halliburton.

An educated guess that's wrong is telling people that US diplomats were
killed by Brand X terrorists when they were really killed by Brand Y
terrorists then correcting yourself three days later.

[Joe Cooper]

Tom Gardner <Mars@Tacks> wrote in news:GbSdnRuTG5tlgAnMnZ2dnUVZ_o-
dn...@giganews.com:

> Who's "Bush"? What does "Bush" have to do with Obama and Clinton lying
> about a terrorist attack they have conquered terrorism before a
> presidential election? Are you that confused?

Confused? Hell, no. They just need to change the subject and deflect
attention from Benghazi and the lies told by Obama, Clinton and
Ambassador Rice...not to mention Jay Carney, who was exposed today as a
liar with respect to the editing of the Benghazi talking points.

It's no wonder proggies don't want to talk about Benghazi.

[PrecisionmachinisT]

<Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig> wrote in message news:9mb8p855g38inssna...@4ax.com...

> On Wed, 15 May 2013 09:20:46 -0700, "PrecisionmachinisT"
> <123mac...@notmail.com> wrote:
>
>>

> Who's to say the article is true? Who ever claims Ambassador Stevens
> said he declined security isn't identified in the article.

Even if true, what the fuck would it have to do with anything ?

Obviously, he declined, otherwise there would have been additional security..

> As
> important as this revelation 'is', anyone can claim anything
> anonymously.

"Revelation" ?

Have you been drinking or are you just dumber than a stump ?

> That unnamed source has nothing to fear from the Right. Only from the

"unnamed source" ?

"In his Feb. 7 testimony before the House Armed Services Committee, Army Gen. Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said the military was aware of the Aug. 16 cable and that someone had turned down Ham's offer."

"Referring to the cable, Dempsey said: "I was aware of it, because it came in, in Gen. Ham's report. Gen. Ham actually called the embassy to, to see if they wanted to extend the special security team there and was said - and was told no."


Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/05/14/191235/amb-stevens-twice-said-no-to-military.html#.UZOc0ZZSl3F#storylink=cpy> Left is there threats of violence and vulgar outbursts.

Pure gibberish...

> Knowing the utter contempt the Marxist turned Fascist has for truth

You probably should cut back on the fruitcake...

> Nothing in your articles says Stevens meant security in Libya. For all

The article says that General Ham offered Stevens security in Libya. Twice.

You really should learn to read.

> we know Ambassador Stevens was referring to security from the airport
> to his villa in the alps.

Sorry, there is no "we"

--

[RichTravsky]

CB wrote:
>
> On Wed, 15 May 2013 09:20:46 -0700, "PrecisionmachinisT"
> <123mac...@notmail.com> wrote:

> ><Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig> wrote in message

> >> On Tue, 14 May 2013 13:54:39 -0700 (PDT), Transition Zone
> >> <mog...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>On May 12, 9:48 pm, AlleyCat <al...@aohell.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Sun, 12 May 2013 18:09:22 -0600, In article
> >>>> <tlb0p8po81iktu9hd4h04ht1b8rq0ld...@4ax.com>, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net
> >>>> says...
> >>>>
> >>>> > IDIOT
> >>>>
> >>>> Liar
> >>>
> >>>Republican's last words: Benghazi, Dr Gosnell, Benghazi, Dr Gosnell,
> >>>Benghazi, Dr Gosnell !!!!
> >>
> >> Glenn Beck- Why Obama Hid the Truth of Benghazi ?
> >
> >Another Republican sideshow....
> >
> >--Christopher Stevens was twice offered additional security and both times, he declined.
> >
> >http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/report-stevens-declined-security-91406.html?ml=la
>

> Who's to say the article is true? Who ever claims Ambassador Stevens

> said he declined security isn't identified in the article. As

The Defense Department has not disavowed the officials' comments. Get
over it

> important as this revelation 'is', anyone can claim anything
> anonymously.
>

> That unnamed source as nothing to fear from the Right. Only from the

> Left is there threats of violence and vulgar outbursts.

Wrong. The cons do not want this to pull the rug out from under them.

> Knowing the utter contempt the Marxist turned Fascist has for truth

What marxist? Is someone presides over a record breaking capitalist
institution a marxist? HAHAHAH

> Nothing in your articles says Stevens meant security in Libya. For all

Idiot. The whole article is about that.

> we know Ambassador Stevens was referring to security from the airport
> to his villa in the alps.

HAHAHH

that's desperate even from you.

[PrecisionmachinisT]

<Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig> wrote in message

news:rs6bp8pk264g5ecmq...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 16 May 2013 16:31:27 -0700, "PrecisionmachinisT"

> " someone had turned down Ham's offer"...sorry, there's no there

Exceot Dempsey...

> there, it's all double speak with Dempsey's name on it. Ham? I made a
> ham sambitch the other day.
>
> Who be, "someone?"...Deepthroat?
>

No, it was Dempsey that said it, you idiot.

>
> Let's see either Genral Ham and Dempsey testify to what you

The comments above were made by Dempsey, and General Ham.

Are you saying that if they were asked to "testify" then they might decide
to retract their previous statements ?

> allege...anything else is BS and you know it.
>

What I know, is that I've snagged me a real nut job.

>>
>>
>>Read more here:
>>http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/05/14/191235/amb-stevens-twice-said-no-to-military.html#.UZOc0ZZSl3F#storylink=cpy>
>>Left is there threats of violence and vulgar outbursts.
>>
>>Pure gibberish...
>>
>>> Knowing the utter contempt the Marxist turned Fascist has for truth
>>
>>You probably should cut back on the fruitcake...
>>
>>> Nothing in your articles says Stevens meant security in Libya. For all
>>
>>The article says that General Ham offered Stevens security in Libya.
>>Twice.
>

> BS
>

Baloney...

It even says so in in the article headline, for Christ's sake...

--what are you, retarded ?

>>
>>You really should learn to read.
>

> Stevens was never mention you liar
>

His name was in the fucking headline, you fucking imbecile.

[RichTravsky]

Gunner Asch wrote:
>
> On Wed, 15 May 2013 15:26:22 -0400, "Robert A. Leffingwell"
> <RALeff...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >An example of a lie is announcing in the State of the Union that Iraq is
> >importing fissionable materials out of Niger and was part of the conspiracy
> >that resulted in 9/11. Then the GOP used that lie as an excuse to create a
> >war with Iraq whose sole purpose was to provide no-bid contracts for
> >Blackwater's mercenaries and to benefit Halliburton.
>
> Thats a fine example of a bunch of lies! And you do it so very
> straight faced too!!
>
> Nice job! Sure you dont work for the DNC? You really should apply
> for a job..your a natural liar!!
> You will do well there!!!!!

That's a fine job of idiocy! Sure you don't work for the RNC?

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500257_162-562312.html
February 11, 2009

Amid questions about prewar intelligence, the White House is
acknowledging that President Bush was incorrect when he said in his
State of the Union address that Iraq recently had sought significant
quantities of uranium in Africa.

Claims about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction were a primary
justification for the war, but U.S. forces have yet to find any such
weapons.
...
The president's statement in the State of the Union was incorrect
because it was based on forged documents from the African nation of
Niger, White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said Monday.

"The president's statement was based on the predicate of the yellow
cake" uranium "from Niger," Fleischer told reporters. "So given the
fact that the report on the yellow cake did not turn out to be
accurate, that is reflective of the president's broader statement."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niger_uranium_forgeries
...
In his January 2003 State of the Union speech, U.S. President George
W. Bush said, "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein
recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." This
single sentence is now known as "the Sixteen Words." The administration
later conceded that evidence in support of the claim was inconclusive
and stated, "These sixteen words should never have been included." The
administration attributed the error to the CIA. In mid-2003, the U.S.
government declassified the 2002 National Intelligence Estimate, which
contained a dissenting opinion published by the U.S. Department of State
stating that the intelligence connecting Niger to Saddam Hussein was
"highly suspect," primarily because State Department's intelligence
agency analysts did not believe that Niger would be likely to engage
in such a transaction due to a French consortium which maintained close
control over the Nigerien uranium industry.
...

Well well, lookee there. "highly suspect" in 2002!

ring ring

RNC on line 2!

[Gunner Asch]

Democrats do it ALL the time. Based on lies. But..shrug..you poor
toads are mentally ill..so its not surprising

Gunner

--
"You guess the truth hurts?

Really?

"Hurt" aint the word.

For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.

RaidŽ to a cockroach.

[Gunner Asch]

On Wed, 15 May 2013 23:12:58 -0400, "Robert A. Leffingwell"
<RALeff...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>"Tom Gardner" <Mars@Tacks> wrote in message
>news:GbSdnRuTG5tlgAnM...@giganews.com...

So you refuse to answer the question. Not surprising for a liar.

And you even forged the nym you are using.

--
"You guess the truth hurts?

Really?

"Hurt" aint the word.

For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.

RaidŽ to a cockroach.

[Gunner Asch]

On Wed, 15 May 2013 18:11:53 -0400, "Robert A. Leffingwell"

<RALeff...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:7er7p8p96s2fjmnqa...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 15:26:22 -0400, "Robert A. Leffingwell"
>> <RALeff...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>An example of a lie is announcing in the State of the Union that Iraq is
>>>importing fissionable materials out of Niger and was part of the
>>>conspiracy
>>>that resulted in 9/11. Then the GOP used that lie as an excuse to create
>>>a
>>>war with Iraq whose sole purpose was to provide no-bid contracts for
>>>Blackwater's mercenaries and to benefit Halliburton.
>>
>>
>> Thats a fine example of a bunch of lies! And you do it so very
>> straight faced too!!
>
>Nah... 4500 dead Americans have the straight face based on lies that morons
>like the Gunner believe as the truth.
>
>But don't get me wrong. We need morons like the Gunner! Assholes are
>crucial to our economy! Someone has to buy those overpriced gold coins
>Glenn Beck and Mark Levin sell.

Odd...I dont buy gold. And is their gold coins overpriced?

More Lies from the Left.

Thats all you dumb bastards have.

[Robert A. Leffingwell]

"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:joqep8pees0j318lm...@4ax.com...

> So you refuse to answer the question.

So now I have to take orders from a lying pile of shit on a power trip.
Nice try asshole.

[Robert A. Leffingwell]

"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:tkqep85vlkllmo1d6...@4ax.com...

> Democrats do it ALL the time. Based on lies.

Why is it so difficult to admit that you are so fucking stupid that you
actually BELIEVE everything Cheney tells you including the load of
fissionable materials allegedly sent from Africa to Iraq?

[pyotr filipivich]

Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> on Sat, 18 May 2013 04:49:29 -0700
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

>On Wed, 15 May 2013 13:55:32 -0700, Chrissy Dęgeer
><wieber.blôws@taft_sucks.con> wrote:
>
>>On 5/15/2013 1:20 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 15:26:22 -0400, "Robert A. Leffingwell"
>>> <RALeff...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> An example of a lie is announcing in the State of the Union that Iraq is
>>>> importing fissionable materials out of Niger and was part of the conspiracy
>>>> that resulted in 9/11. Then the GOP used that lie as an excuse to create a
>>>> war with Iraq whose sole purpose was to provide no-bid contracts for
>>>> Blackwater's mercenaries and to benefit Halliburton.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thats a fine example of a bunch of lies!
>>
>>It sure is. Bush did all of that, all based on lies.
>
>Democrats do it ALL the time. Based on lies. But..shrug..you poor
>toads are mentally ill..so its not surprising

Chrissy has no ethical guidelines, save that what ever Republicans
do, they can do too.

It isn't whether or not the act itself is ... well, they don't
have the concepts of Good/Evil, just "acceptable and not-acceptable,
for me."
So how are they to know what to do, lest a Republican show them
the way?
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."

[Gunner Asch]

So you admit to refusing to answer the question. Thats not..in the
least..surprising. Afterall..you are a Leftwinger...and you are indeed
mentally ill. So answering questions that would interfer with the
'private world" in your head....is contraindicated.

And to set the reply to your home newsgroup: alt.idiots.....typical of
leftwingers.

Read my sig...its all about you and yours. <VBG>

Leftwingers, dumber than dog shit and crazier than a bag of dead rats.

Gunner

[Gunner Asch]

Read my sig...its all about you and yours.

Fixed that reply to thingy. Its something I always check before
hitting send, when dealing with Leftwingers. You poor mental cases
always lie and try this sort of shit. Which is why you will be killed
soon. Shrug

--
"You guess the truth hurts?

Really?

"Hurt" aint the word.

For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.

Raid� to a cockroach.

[RichTravsky]

CB wrote:

> No, I just know the plausible deniability act you 'Progressives have
> evolved from truth' have perfected.

Only a moron would come up the "villa in the alps" nonsense.

[GOP_Decline_and_Fall]

On Mon, 20 May 2013 01:32:31 -0400, Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @
7/11.nig wrote:

>On Sun, 19 May 2013 21:24:02 -0600, RichTravsky

>No 'where' does Ambassador Stevens describe 'where' he means. For all
>we know he was talking about security from the airport to his crib on
>duh sout side of Chicago. In which case he'd need lots of armor there
>too.

Wow..three dead horses in one psychotic subject line.

Desperate much?

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/05/14/191235/amb-stevens-twice-said-no-to-military.html#.UZmzmHwnBrw

�In light of the uncertain security environment, US Mission Benghazi
will submit specific requests to US Embassy Tripoli for additional
physical security upgrades and staffing needs by separate cover,� said
the cable, which was first reported by Fox News.

Army Gen. Carter Ham, then the head of the U.S. Africa Command, did
not wait for the separate cable, however. Instead, after reading the
Aug. 16 cable, Ham phoned Stevens and asked if the embassy needed a
special security team from the U.S. military. Stevens told Ham it did
not, the officials said.

Weeks later, Stevens traveled to Germany for an already scheduled
meeting with Ham at AFRICOM headquarters. During that meeting, Ham
again offered additional military assets, and Stevens again said no,
the two officials said.

[RichTravsky]

Obama's, Legion, of, Flash, Mobs, @, 7/11.nig wrote:
>
> On Sun, 19 May 2013 21:24:02 -0600, RichTravsky

> No 'where' does Ambassador Stevens describe 'where' he means. For all
> we know he was talking about security from the airport to his crib on
> duh sout side of Chicago. In which case he'd need lots of armor there
> too.

HAHAHAH You're really desperate here. Please tell us about this "villa
in the alps" ->

[RichTravsky]

CB bitch slapped rather soundly...

[RichTravsky]

Gunner Asch wrote:

>
> On Wed, 15 May 2013 13:55:32 -0700, Chrissy D�geer
> <wieber.bl�ws@taft_sucks.con> wrote:
>
> >On 5/15/2013 1:20 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> >> On Wed, 15 May 2013 15:26:22 -0400, "Robert A. Leffingwell"
> >> <RALeff...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> An example of a lie is announcing in the State of the Union that Iraq is
> >>> importing fissionable materials out of Niger and was part of the conspiracy
> >>> that resulted in 9/11. Then the GOP used that lie as an excuse to create a
> >>> war with Iraq whose sole purpose was to provide no-bid contracts for
> >>> Blackwater's mercenaries and to benefit Halliburton.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thats a fine example of a bunch of lies!
> >
> >It sure is. Bush did all of that, all based on lies.
>
> Democrats do it ALL the time. Based on lies. But..shrug..you poor
> toads are mentally ill..so its not surprising
>
> Gunner
>
> --
> "You guess the truth hurts?
>
> Really?
>
> "Hurt" aint the word.
>
> For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
> Sunlight to a vampire.

> Raid� to a cockroach.

> Sheriff Brody to a shark
> Bush to a Liberal
>
> The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
> up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
> dick as a brake.
>
> They HATE the truth."
>

You cons don't do anything BUT lie. But..shrug..you poor

toads are mentally ill..so its not surprising

Here's some truth you've as painful as a red hot poker up your ass:

[RichTravsky]

Gunner Asch wrote:

>
> On Wed, 15 May 2013 13:55:32 -0700, Chrissy D�geer
> <wieber.bl�ws@taft_sucks.con> wrote:
>
> >On 5/15/2013 1:20 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> >> On Wed, 15 May 2013 15:26:22 -0400, "Robert A. Leffingwell"
> >> <RALeff...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> An example of a lie is announcing in the State of the Union that Iraq is
> >>> importing fissionable materials out of Niger and was part of the conspiracy
> >>> that resulted in 9/11. Then the GOP used that lie as an excuse to create a
> >>> war with Iraq whose sole purpose was to provide no-bid contracts for
> >>> Blackwater's mercenaries and to benefit Halliburton.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thats a fine example of a bunch of lies!
> >
> >It sure is. Bush did all of that, all based on lies.
>
> Democrats do it ALL the time. Based on lies. But..shrug..you poor
> toads are mentally ill..so its not surprising
>
> Gunner
>
> --
> "You guess the truth hurts?
>
> Really?
>
> "Hurt" aint the word.
>
> For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
> Sunlight to a vampire.

> Raid� to a cockroach.

> Sheriff Brody to a shark
> Bush to a Liberal
>
> The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
> up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
> dick as a brake.
>
> They HATE the truth."
>

You cons don't do anything BUT lie. But..shrug..you poor

toads are mentally ill..so its not surprising

[RichTravsky]

Gunner Asch wrote:

>
> On Wed, 15 May 2013 13:55:32 -0700, Chrissy Dęgeer
> <wieber.blôws@taft_sucks.con> wrote:
>
> >On 5/15/2013 1:20 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> >> On Wed, 15 May 2013 15:26:22 -0400, "Robert A. Leffingwell"
> >> <RALeff...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> An example of a lie is announcing in the State of the Union that Iraq is
> >>> importing fissionable materials out of Niger and was part of the conspiracy
> >>> that resulted in 9/11. Then the GOP used that lie as an excuse to create a
> >>> war with Iraq whose sole purpose was to provide no-bid contracts for
> >>> Blackwater's mercenaries and to benefit Halliburton.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thats a fine example of a bunch of lies!
> >
> >It sure is. Bush did all of that, all based on lies.
>
> Democrats do it ALL the time. Based on lies. But..shrug..you poor
> toads are mentally ill..so its not surprising
>
> Gunner
>
> --
> "You guess the truth hurts?
>
> Really?
>
> "Hurt" aint the word.
>
> For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
> Sunlight to a vampire.

> RaidŽ to a cockroach.

[Johnny Johnson]

In article <51B503EB...@hotmail.com>, traRvE...@hotmail.com says...
>
> Gunner Asch wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 13:55:32 -0700, Chrissy Dêgeer

>> <wieber.blôws@taft_sucks.con> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/15/2013 1:20 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>
>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 15:26:22 -0400, "Robert A. Leffingwell"
>>>> <RALeff...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> An example of a lie is announcing in the State of the Union that Iraq is
>>>>> importing fissionable materials out of Niger and was part of the
conspiracy
>>>>> that resulted in 9/11. Then the GOP used that lie as an excuse to create
a
>>>>> war with Iraq whose sole purpose was to provide no-bid contracts for
>>>>> Blackwater's mercenaries and to benefit Halliburton.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thats a fine example of a bunch of lies!
>>>
>>>It sure is. Bush did all of that, all based on lies.
>>
>> Democrats do it ALL the time. Based on lies. But..shrug..you poor
>> toads are mentally ill..so its not surprising
>>
>> Gunner
>>
>> --
>> "You guess the truth hurts?
>>
>> Really?
>>
>> "Hurt" aint the word.
>>
>> For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
>> Sunlight to a vampire.

>> Raid® to a cockroach.

>> Sheriff Brody to a shark
>> Bush to a Liberal
>>
>> The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
>> up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
>> dick as a brake.
>>
>> They HATE the truth."
>
> You cons don't do anything BUT lie. But..shrug..you poor
> toads are mentally ill..so its not surprising
>
> Here's some truth you've as painful as a red hot poker up your ass:
>
> http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500257_162-562312.html
> February 11, 2009
>
> Amid questions about prewar intelligence, the White House is
> acknowledging that President Bush was incorrect when he said in his
> State of the Union address that Iraq recently had sought significant
> quantities of uranium in Africa.
>

[ Snip the usual "But But But But ..... BUSH!?!?!" bashing ]

On point:

BREAKING: Benghazi cover-up censored by media

L. Brent Bozell III, Founder and President, Media Research Center revealed the
following:

At least five major bombshell revelations emerged during the House Oversight
Committee's hearing on the September terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya. But
as of yet, the liberal media have done no more than pay lip service to these
revelations. And the MRC is taking action.

?The State Department knew it was a terrorist attack, but blamed it on a video.

?Commandos were denied permission to go to Benghazi and help those under
siege?even though no one knew how long the attacks would last.

?A FEST team was denied permission to go in because conditions were "too
dangerous." Yet, they wanted to go and this is exactly what they're trained
for!

?Gregory Hicks?the #2 diplomat in Libya?was demoted after complaining that that
the administration was lying!

?Secretary Clinton was never interviewed by the Accountability Review Board!

Why has there been so little coverage on an attack that cost American lives and
is now proven to be an administration cover-up? Because the liberal media want
to censor the truth in order to protect their ally in the White House. This is
a disgrace and it violates every established journalistic ethic. I hope you'll
stand with us to take action.

The victims' families deserve the truth, and YOU deserve the truth. Sign our
petition demanding the media thoroughly investigate the Benghazi scandal until
the full truth is revealed.

You can take action here:

Stop Censoring Benghazi Coverage!
http://src.personalliberty.com/ego/0b645a37-be21-4ebd-9d0d-
98bb24d78f79/400797629/300412

[Gunner Asch]

On Sun, 9 Jun 2013 19:57:54 -0500, Johnny Johnson
<TopCo...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <51B503EB...@hotmail.com>, traRvE...@hotmail.com says...
>>
>> Gunner Asch wrote:
>>>

>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 13:55:32 -0700, Chrissy Dęgeer

>>> <wieber.blôws@taft_sucks.con> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/15/2013 1:20 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>
>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2013 15:26:22 -0400, "Robert A. Leffingwell"
>>>>> <RALeff...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> An example of a lie is announcing in the State of the Union that Iraq is
>>>>>> importing fissionable materials out of Niger and was part of the
>conspiracy
>>>>>> that resulted in 9/11. Then the GOP used that lie as an excuse to create
>a
>>>>>> war with Iraq whose sole purpose was to provide no-bid contracts for
>>>>>> Blackwater's mercenaries and to benefit Halliburton.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thats a fine example of a bunch of lies!
>>>>
>>>>It sure is. Bush did all of that, all based on lies.
>>>
>>> Democrats do it ALL the time. Based on lies. But..shrug..you poor
>>> toads are mentally ill..so its not surprising
>>>
>>> Gunner
>>>
>>> --
>>> "You guess the truth hurts?
>>>
>>> Really?
>>>
>>> "Hurt" aint the word.
>>>
>>> For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
>>> Sunlight to a vampire.

>>> RaidŽ to a cockroach.

Its been clearly admitted by the talking heads on the Democrat MSM
that they are utterly biased and only when forced...will mention sins
and crimes committed by this administration.

When the Great Cull arrives...they will all be buried in mass graves
and America will be a much better, more informed place.

--
"You guess the truth hurts?

Really?

"Hurt" aint the word.

For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.

RaidŽ to a cockroach.

[Joe Cooper]

RichTravsky <traRvE...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:51B503EB.5B20A727
@hotmail.com:

> Claims about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction were a primary
> justification for the war, but U.S. forces have yet to find any such
> weapons.

Not true - several chem labs containing degraded chemical weapons were
found, according to Wikipedia:

On June 21, 2006 the U.S. House of Representatives Permanent Select
Committee on Intelligence released key points from a classified report
from the National Ground Intelligence Center on the recovery of a small
number of degraded chemical munitions in Iraq. The report stated that
"Coalition forces have recovered approximately 500 weapons munitions
which contain degraded mustard or sarin nerve agent." However, all are
thought to be pre-Gulf War munitions.

These munitions meet the technical definition of weapons of mass
destruction, according to the commander of the National Ground
Intelligence Center. "These are chemical weapons as defined under the
Chemical Weapons Convention, and yes ... they do constitute weapons of
mass destruction," Army Col. John Chu told the House Armed Services
Committee. The munitions addressed in the report were produced in the
1980s, Maples said. Badly corroded, they could not currently be used as
originally intended, though agent remaining in the weapons would be very
valuable to terrorists and insurgents, Maples said.

And the NY Post reported:

There were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq after all.

The massive cache of almost 400,000 Iraq war documents released by the
WikiLeaks Web site revealed that small amounts of chemical weapons were
found in Iraq and continued to surface for years after the 2003 US
invasion, Wired magazine reported.

The documents showed that US troops continued to find chemical weapons
and labs for years after the invasion, including remnants of Saddam
Hussein's chemical weapons arsenal -- most of which had been destroyed
following the Gulf War.

In August 2004, American troops were able to buy containers from locals
of what they thought was liquid sulfur mustard, a blister agent, the
documents revealed. The chemicals were triple-sealed and taken to a
secure site.

Also in 2004, troops discovered a chemical lab in a house in Fallujah
during a battle with insurgents. A chemical cache was also found in the
city.

=30=

It would be nice if liberals would stop lying about this - it makes them
look REAL stupid.

--
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Talking about Republican racism, idiocy and selfishness became dinner
table conversations for millions. President Obama's viciousness was
downgraded to "incivility," or even admired as strength by his followers.
Scapegoating Republicans for the country's woes was greeted happily and
amplified by his followers. Hatred of Republicans was a fun way for
them to bond with one another. It reinforced their sense of moral and
political superiority, as scapegoating always does. No Republican
policy was considered a well-meaning, albeit misguided, proposal aimed

[Max Boot]

[headers vandalism repaired]

On 6/10/2013 11:32 AM, Joe Cooper wrote:
> RichTravsky <traRvE...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:51B503EB.5B20A727
> @hotmail.com:
>
>> Claims about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction were a primary
>> justification for the war, but U.S. forces have yet to find any such
>> weapons.
>
> Not true - several chem labs containing degraded chemical weapons were
> found, according to Wikipedia:

Saddam's massive stockpiles of usable WMD were the justification for the
invasion. No usable WMD were found. There is no valid evidence that
they were spirited off to Syria or anywhere else.

The WMD claim was a lie. It was not an "intelligence failure"; it was
simply a lie.

[Robert A. Leffingwell]

"Max Boot" <max....@lathymes.com> wrote in message
news:b3a8$51b61d01$414e828e$20...@EVERESTKC.NET...

>
> The WMD claim was a lie. It was not an "intelligence failure"; it was
> simply a lie.
>

Not only that but Bush's state of the union talked in detail about an
alleged shipment of fissionable material from Africa to Iraq. The Bush
Administration then claimed this material would be used as cannon shells.

The story was an outright lie uncovered by retired diplomat Joe Wilson which
in turn eventually led to the destruction of the career of Valerie Plame,
Wilson's wife, a covert operative at the CIA, by Dick Cheney or by one of
his associates.

Colin Powell who was ordered to provide the United Nations with an excuse
for the Iraqi invasion, quit his job as Secretary of State in disgust. His
son, FCC Chairman Michael Powell, was then forced to quit his job as well.

[Joe Cooper]

Max Boot <max....@lathymes.com> wrote in news:b3a8$51b61d01$414e828e
$20...@EVERESTKC.NET:

Is that why you removed the citations I provided which showed that WMDs
were found?

Even the liberal rag the NY Post covered the story:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/us_did_find_iraq_wmd_AYiLgNbw7
pDf7AZ3RO9qnM

Wired did, too:
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/10/wikileaks-show-wmd-hunt-
continued-in-iraq-with-surprising-results/

"But WikiLeaks’ newly-released Iraq war documents reveal that for years
afterward, U.S. troops continued to find chemical weapons labs, encounter
insurgent specialists in toxins and uncover weapons of mass destruction."

Hot Air:
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/10/24/wikileaks-documents-show-wmds-
found-in-iraq/

"This isn’t exactly vindication of one of the arguments the Bush
administration gave for invading Iraq, which was that Hussein had already
begun stockpiling new WMDs and was working on nuclear weapons, but it is
another vindication of the primary reason for restarting the war: Hussein
and Iraq had violated the truce and refused to comply even after 17 UN
resolutions demanding compliance."

[Spamßuster]

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[Max Boot]

[headers vandalism by gutless squat-to-piss cocksucker repaired]

On 6/10/2013 1:34 PM, Joe Cooper wrote:
> Max Boot <max....@lathymes.com> wrote in news:b3a8$51b61d01$414e828e
> $20...@EVERESTKC.NET:
>
>> On 6/10/2013 11:32 AM, Joe Cooper wrote:
>>> RichTravsky <traRvE...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:51B503EB.5B20A727
>>> @hotmail.com:
>>>
>>>> Claims about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction were a primary
>>>> justification for the war, but U.S. forces have yet to find any
> such
>>>> weapons.
>>>
>>> Not true - several chem labs containing degraded chemical weapons were
>>> found, according to Wikipedia:
>>
>> Saddam's massive stockpiles of usable WMD were the justification for
> the
>> invasion. No usable WMD were found. There is no valid evidence that
>> they were spirited off to Syria or anywhere else.
>>
>> The WMD claim was a lie. It was not an "intelligence failure"; it was
>> simply a lie.
>
> Is that why you removed the citations I provided which showed that WMDs
> were found?

Not one of those shows that *any* usable WMD, let alone the allegedly
massive stockpiles of them, were found.

> Even the liberal rag the NY Post covered the story:
> http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/us_did_find_iraq_wmd_AYiLgNbw7pDf7AZ3RO9qnM

Does not show evidence of any usable, deliverable WMD. Dismissed.



> Wired did, too:
> http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/10/wikileaks-show-wmd-hunt-continued-in-iraq-with-surprising-results/

Just repeats the same garbage from the Post. Verdict: no usable,
deliverable WMD recovered.

> "But WikiLeaks’ newly-released Iraq war documents reveal that for years
> afterward, U.S. troops continued to find chemical weapons labs, encounter
> insurgent specialists in toxins and uncover weapons of mass destruction."
>
> Hot Air:
> http://hotair.com/archives/2010/10/24/wikileaks-documents-show-wmds-found-in-iraq/
>
> "This isn’t exactly vindication of one of the arguments the Bush
> administration gave for invading Iraq, which was that Hussein had already
> begun stockpiling new WMDs and was working on nuclear weapons, but it is
> another vindication of the primary reason for restarting the war: Hussein
> and Iraq had violated the truce and refused to comply even after 17 UN
> resolutions demanding compliance."

It is not vindication of anything. It is proof of the Bush regime
lying. From the page:

“The 155mm rounds are filled with an unknown liquid, and several
of which are leaking a black tar-like substance.”

Leaking: not usable, not deliverable. No massive stockpiles or caches.



You're an obedient Bush regime flunky.

[Röbert Recton]

On 6/10/2013 1:43 PM, Karen Gordon, the HIV-oozing whore of Nanaimo, BC,
crapped all over the page:

>
>
> ==========================================================
>
> KEEP IT THE HELL OUT OF CANADIAN NEWSGROUPS, THANKS
>
> ==========================================================

It's going to keep coming back to can.politics at least as many times as
you piss and moan about it, cunt.

Fuck off, Karen. Your time is getting short.

[Röbert Recton]

On 6/10/2013 1:44 PM, Karen Gordon, the HIV-oozing whore of Nanaimo, BC,

crapped all over the page:


>
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Eat shit and bark at the moon, Karen.

[Joe Cooper]

Max Boot <max....@lathymes.com> wrote in

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> [headers vandalism by gutless squat-to-piss cocksucker repaired]

I am always fascinated by the proggie obsession with homosexual acts. Do
they get it in school?

> Not one of those shows that *any* usable WMD, let alone the allegedly
> massive stockpiles of them, were found.

Sorry, Bubba, but they were THERE, just as Bush claimed they were.

>> Even the liberal rag the NY Post covered the story:
>> http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/us_did_find_iraq_wmd_AYiLgN
>> bw7pDf7AZ3RO9qnM
>
> Does not show evidence of any usable, deliverable WMD. Dismissed.

Does not show Bush lied. Dismissed.

>> Wired did, too:
>> http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/10/wikileaks-show-wmd-hunt-contin
>> ued-in-iraq-with-surprising-results/
>
> Just repeats the same garbage from the Post. Verdict: no usable,
> deliverable WMD recovered.

Does not show Bush lied. Dismissed.

> Leaking: not usable, not deliverable. No massive stockpiles or
> caches.

Does not show Bush lied. Dismissed.

“In today’s political world – and for the last few decades – the biggest
bullies have been almost universally on the left. It is the left that
uses thug tactics to silence voices rather than celebrating the grand
panoply that makes up American politics. It is the left that tells
Americans that political unity is more important than freedom of speech.
It is the left that uses the clubs of race and class to attack those on
the right; it is the left that lables religious people and traditional
values people rubes and simpletons, and tells them that their perspective
has no place in the public square; it is the left that creates
environmental crises out of whole cloth, then rams remunerative measures
down our collective throats. It is the left that tells us that it is
unpatriotic to be patriotic. And most of all, it is the left that uses
our most powerful institutions – the institutions through which we
connect with each other and build common bonds – to tear us apart.” (Ben
Shapiro)

[Max Boot]

[headers vandalism by gutless squat-to-piss cocksucker repaired]

On 6/10/2013 2:12 PM, Joe Cooper wrote:
> Max Boot <max....@lathymes.com> wrote in
> news:daac0$51b63e2d$414e828e$29...@EVERESTKC.NET:
>
>> [headers vandalism by gutless squat-to-piss cocksucker repaired]
>
> I am always fascinated by the proggie obsession with homosexual acts.

Nice try at playing The Queer Game...and failing at it, as always.

>> Not one of those shows that *any* usable WMD, let alone the allegedly
>> massive stockpiles of them, were found.
>
> Sorry, Bubba, but they were THERE,

No, Squeaky - they *weren't* "THERE".

>>> Even the liberal rag the NY Post covered the story:
>>> http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/us_did_find_iraq_wmd_AYiLgN
>>> bw7pDf7AZ3RO9qnM
>>
>> Does not show evidence of any usable, deliverable WMD. Dismissed.
>
> Does not show Bush lied.

Of course it does. He claimed there were massive stockpiles of intact,
usable WMD. He knew there weren't. The worthless and unnecessary and
illegal invasion proved it.

>>> Wired did, too:
>>> http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/10/wikileaks-show-wmd-hunt-contin
>>> ued-in-iraq-with-surprising-results/
>>
>> Just repeats the same garbage from the Post. Verdict: no usable,
>> deliverable WMD recovered.
>
> Does not show Bush lied.

See above, Squeaky.

>> Leaking: not usable, not deliverable. No massive stockpiles or
>> caches.
>
> Does not show Bush lied.

See above, Squeaky.

> “In today’s political world – and for the last few decades – the biggest
> bullies have been almost universally on the left.

<yawn> I'm not "on the left", Squeaky.

[Joe Cooper]

Max Boot <max....@lathymes.com> wrote in news:bce45$51b6453e$414e828e
$59...@EVERESTKC.NET:

> Of course it does. He claimed there were massive stockpiles of intact,
> usable WMD. He knew there weren't. The worthless and unnecessary and
> illegal invasion proved it.

Nonsense He claimed they were there, and he was correct. Saddam admitted
it in the Desert Storm ceasefire agreement.

[Max Boot]

[headers vandalism by gutless squat-to-piss cocksucker and bootlick
repaired]


On 6/10/2013 3:35 PM, Joe Cooper, spineless bootlick, lied:

>> [headers vandalism by gutless squat-to-piss cocksucker repaired]
>>
>>

>> On 6/10/2013 2:12 PM, Joe Cooper, spineless bootlick, lied:

>>> Max Boot <max....@lathymes.com> wrote in

>>> news:daac0$51b63e2d$414e828e$29...@EVERESTKC.NET:
>>>
>>>> [headers vandalism by gutless squat-to-piss cocksucker repaired]
>>>
>>> I am always fascinated by the proggie obsession with homosexual acts.
>>
>> Nice try at playing The Queer Game...and failing at it, as always.
>>
>>
>>>> Not one of those shows that *any* usable WMD, let alone the allegedly
>>>> massive stockpiles of them, were found.
>>>
>>> Sorry, Bubba, but they were THERE,
>>
>> No, Squeaky - they *weren't* "THERE".
>>
>>
>>>>> Even the liberal rag the NY Post covered the story:
>>>>> http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/us_did_find_iraq_wmd_AYiLgN
>>>>> bw7pDf7AZ3RO9qnM
>>>>
>>>> Does not show evidence of any usable, deliverable WMD. Dismissed.
>>>
>>> Does not show Bush lied.
>>

>> Of course it does. He claimed there were massive stockpiles of intact,
>> usable WMD. He knew there weren't. The worthless and unnecessary and
>> illegal invasion proved it.
>
> Nonsense He claimed they were there, and he was correct.

He claimed massive stockpiles of usable WMD were there, and he was
incorrect. In fact, it was worse than being incorrect - it was a
baldfaced and deliberate lie.

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On 6/10/2013 3:35 PM, Joe Cooper wrote:

[Röbert Recton]

On 6/10/2013 3:58 PM, Karen Gordon, the HIV-oozing whore of Nanaimo, BC,

crapped all over the page:
>
>

Fuck off, Karen. It's here because someone much smarter than you
decided it belongs here. You'll take it and you'll like it, cunt.

[Scout]

"Max Boot" <max....@lathymes.com> wrote in message
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Well given he was doing his best to make the world believe he still had such
a stockpile and was engaged in making it bigger and better, I'm not sure how
you can claim it was a lie rather than an intelligence failure unless you
suddenly know a whole lot more about that intelligence than all those who
saw it and agreed there was a strong risk he had WMDs on hand.

Sometimes, when you lie to be seen as a tough guy....people believe you, and
act accordingly.

[Max Boot]

On 6/10/2013 4:32 PM, Scout wrote:
>
>
> "Max Boot" <max....@lathymes.com> wrote in message
> news:b3a8$51b61d01$414e828e$20...@EVERESTKC.NET...
>> [headers vandalism repaired]
>>
>> On 6/10/2013 11:32 AM, Joe Cooper wrote:
>>> RichTravsky <traRvE...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:51B503EB.5B20A727
>>> @hotmail.com:
>>>
>>>> Claims about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction were a primary
>>>> justification for the war, but U.S. forces have yet to find any such
>>>> weapons.
>>>
>>> Not true - several chem labs containing degraded chemical weapons were
>>> found, according to Wikipedia:
>>
>> Saddam's massive stockpiles of usable WMD were the justification for
>> the invasion. No usable WMD were found. There is no valid evidence
>> that they were spirited off to Syria or anywhere else.
>>
>> The WMD claim was a lie. It was not an "intelligence failure"; it was
>> simply a lie.
>
> Well given he was doing his best to make the world believe he still had
> such a stockpile and was engaged in making it bigger and better,

He was? What's your evidence for that?

> I'm not sure how you can claim it was a lie rather than an intelligence failure

UN weapons inspectors had confirmed for many years following the first
gulf war that the stockpiles had been destroyed. There was no
intelligence suggesting otherwise.

[David R. Birch]

So I guess these people were all lying, too:

[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the
U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if
appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to
respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its
weapons of mass destruction programs." -- From a letter signed by Joe
Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, & John
Kerry among others on October 9, 1998

"This December will mark three years since United Nations inspectors
last visited Iraq. There is no doubt that since that time, Saddam
Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that
biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be
back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to refine
delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile
program to develop longer- range missiles that will threaten the
United States and our allies." -- From a December 6, 2001 letter
signed by Bob Graham, Joe Lieberman, Harold Ford, & Tom Lantos among
others

"Whereas Iraq has consistently breached its cease-fire agreement
between Iraq and the United States, entered into on March 3, 1991, by
failing to dismantle its weapons of mass destruction program, and
refusing to permit monitoring and verification by United Nations
inspections; Whereas Iraq has developed weapons of mass destruction,
including chemical and biological capabilities, and has made positive
progress toward developing nuclear weapons capabilities" -- From a
joint resolution submitted by Tom Harkin and Arlen Specter on July 18,
2002

"Saddam's goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while
retaining and enhancing Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs.
We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed." -- Madeline
Albright, 1998

"(Saddam) will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and
some day, some way, I am certain he will use that arsenal again, as he
has 10 times since 1983" -- National Security Adviser Sandy Berger,
Feb 18, 1998

"Iraq made commitments after the Gulf War to completely dismantle all
weapons of mass destruction, and unfortunately, Iraq has not lived up
to its agreement." -- Barbara Boxer, November 8, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are
confident that Saddam Hussein retained some stockpiles of chemical and
biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course
to build up his chemical and biological warfare capability.
Intelligence reports also indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons,
but has not yet achieved nuclear capability." -- Robert Byrd, October
2002

"There's no question that Saddam Hussein is a threat... Yes, he has
chemical and biological weapons. He's had those for a long time. But
the United States right now is on a very much different defensive
posture than we were before September 11th of 2001... He is, as far as
we know, actively pursuing nuclear capabilities, though he doesn't
have nuclear warheads yet. If he were to acquire nuclear weapons, I
think our friends in the region would face greatly increased risks as
would we." -- Wesley Clark on September 26, 2002

"What is at stake is how to answer the potential threat Iraq
represents with the risk of proliferation of WMD. Baghdad's regime did
use such weapons in the past. Today, a number of evidences may lead to
think that, over the past four years, in the absence of international
inspectors, this country has continued armament programs." -- Jacques
Chirac, October 16, 2002

"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of
threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction,
ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond
today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be
emboldened tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton in 1998

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports
show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and
biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his
nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to
terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no
evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11,
2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein
will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical
warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he
succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security
landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects
American security." -- Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002

"I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons...I saw evidence
back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from
gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up
and then moving those trucks out." -- Clinton's Secretary of Defense
William Cohen in April of 2003

"Iraq is not the only nation in the world to possess weapons of mass
destruction, but it is the only nation with a leader who has used them
against his own people." -- Tom Daschle in 1998

"Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our
allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades,
Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every
available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons.
He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and
is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to
build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to
achieving that goal." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

"The debate over Iraq is not about politics. It is about national
security. It should be clear that our national security requires
Congress to send a clear message to Iraq and the world: America is
united in its determination to eliminate forever the threat of Iraq's
weapons of mass destruction." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

"I share the administration's goals in dealing with Iraq and its
weapons of mass destruction." -- Dick Gephardt in September of 2002

"Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf
and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his
access to weapons of mass destruction. Iraq's search for weapons of
mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we
should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in
power." -- Al Gore, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that
Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing
capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass
destruction." -- Bob Graham, December 2002

"Saddam Hussein is not the only deranged dictator who is willing to
deprive his people in order to acquire weapons of mass destruction."
-- Jim Jeffords, October 8, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and
developing weapons of mass destruction." -- Ted Kennedy, September 27,
2002

"There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein's regime is a serious danger,
that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass
destruction cannot be tolerated. He must be disarmed." -- Ted Kennedy,
Sept 27, 2002

"I will be voting to give the president of the United States the
authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein
because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction
in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." -- John F.
Kerry, Oct 2002

"The threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is
real, but as I said, it is not new. It has been with us since the end
of that war, and particularly in the last 4 years we know after
Operation Desert Fox failed to force him to reaccept them, that he has
continued to build those weapons. He has had a free hand for 4 years
to reconstitute these weapons, allowing the world, during the
interval, to lose the focus we had on weapons of mass destruction and
the issue of proliferation." -- John Kerry, October 9, 2002

"(W)e need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous
dictator, leading an oppressive regime. We all know the litany of his
offenses. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so
consistently prone to miscalculation. ...And now he is miscalculating
America?s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp
for weapons of mass destruction. That is why the world, through the
United Nations Security Council, has spoken with one voice, demanding
that Iraq disclose its weapons programs and disarm. So the threat of
Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but it is not
new. It has been with us since the end of the Persian Gulf War." --
John Kerry, Jan 23, 2003

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a
threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the
mandates of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass
destruction and the means of delivering them." -- Carl Levin, Sept 19,
2002

"Every day Saddam remains in power with chemical weapons, biological
weapons, and the development of nuclear weapons is a day of danger for
the United States." -- Joe Lieberman, August, 2002

"Over the years, Iraq has worked to develop nuclear, chemical and
biological weapons. During 1991 - 1994, despite Iraq's denials, U.N.
inspectors discovered and dismantled a large network of nuclear
facilities that Iraq was using to develop nuclear weapons. Various
reports indicate that Iraq is still actively pursuing nuclear weapons
capability. There is no reason to think otherwise. Beyond nuclear
weapons, Iraq has actively pursued biological and chemical
weapons.U.N. inspectors have said that Iraq's claims about biological
weapons is neither credible nor verifiable. In 1986, Iraq used
chemical weapons against Iran, and later, against its own Kurdish
population. While weapons inspections have been successful in the
past, there have been no inspections since the end of 1998. There can
be no doubt that Iraq has continued to pursue its goal of obtaining
weapons of mass destruction." -- Patty Murray, October 9, 2002

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware
that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue
of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in
the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a
threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the
weapons inspection process." -- Nancy Pelosi, December 16, 1998

"Even today, Iraq is not nearly disarmed. Based on highly credible
intelligence, UNSCOM [the U.N. weapons inspectors] suspects that Iraq
still has biological agents like anthrax, botulinum toxin, and
clostridium perfringens in sufficient quantity to fill several dozen
bombs and ballistic missile warheads, as well as the means to continue
manufacturing these deadly agents. Iraq probably retains several tons
of the highly toxic VX substance, as well as sarin nerve gas and
mustard gas. This agent is stored in artillery shells, bombs, and
ballistic missile warheads. And Iraq retains significant dual-use
industrial infrastructure that can be used to rapidly reconstitute
large-scale chemical weapons production." -- Ex-Un Weapons Inspector
Scott Ritter in 1998

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working
aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear
weapons within the next five years. And that may happen sooner if he
can obtain access to enriched uranium from foreign sources --
something that is not that difficult in the current world. We also
should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has
made in development of weapons of mass destruction." -- John
Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002

"Saddam?s existing biological and chemical weapons capabilities pose a
very real threat to America, now. Saddam has used chemical weapons
before, both against Iraq?s enemies and against his own people. He is
working to develop delivery systems like missiles and unmanned aerial
vehicles that could bring these deadly weapons against U.S. forces and
U.S. facilities in the Middle East." -- John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002

"Whether one agrees or disagrees with the Administration?s policy
towards Iraq, I don?t think there can be any question about Saddam?s
conduct. He has systematically violated, over the course of the past
11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he
disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any
nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do. He lies and cheats; he
snubs the mandate and authority of international weapons inspectors;
and he games the system to keep buying time against enforcement of the
just and legitimate demands of the United Nations, the Security
Council, the United States and our allies. Those are simply the
facts." -- Henry Waxman, Oct 10, 2002

"[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do so
would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their
methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of regaining
power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well please. The
problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long that, as a
group, they themselves are no longer sure of their goals. They are a
collection of wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a grab-bag of dreams
and wishes. Some want a Socialist, secular-humanist state, others the
repeal of the Second Amendment. Some want same sex/different species
marriage, others want voting rights for trees, fish, coal and bugs. Some
want cradle to grave care and
complete subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture
that walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political
correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same way I view the
competing factions of Islamic
fundamentalists. The latter hate each other to the core, and only join
forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the core,
and only join forces to attack George Bush and conservatives." --Ron Marr
> >

"[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do so
would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their
methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of regaining
power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well please. The
problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long that, as a
group, they themselves are no longer sure of their goals. They are a
collection of wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a grab-bag of
dreams and wishes. Some want a Socialist, secular-humanist state, others
the repeal of the Second Amendment. Some want same sex/different species
marriage, others want voting rights for trees, fish, coal and bugs. Some
want cradle to grave care and
complete subservience to the government nanny state, others want a
culture that walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of
political correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same way
I view the competing factions of Islamic
fundamentalists. The latter hate each other to the core, and only join
forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the
core, and only join forces to attack George Bush and conservatives."
--Ron Marr

Liars all, then.

David

[David R. Birch]

So why did we hear all this :

More, liars.

David
>

[Max Boot]

> [snip remaining statements made purely for political cover]

None of those people had any evidence of WMD in Iraq, either.

[Max Boot]

> [W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and [snip political wheeze]

No evidence of WMD in Iraq.

[Max Boot]

On 6/10/2013 4:58 PM, David R. Birch wrote:

> [snip *unattributed* right-wing copypasta]

It's considered a requirement to give your source, sophomore, rather
than pretending that you personally and separately researched and found
each of those quotes. Did you get them here, sophomore?

http://www.rightwingnews.com/quotes/if-the-bush-administration-lied-about-wmd-so-did-these-people-version-3-0/

I think it was. The first dozen or so of your copypasta are reproduced
there exactly as you did including bizarre special characters.

You suck.

[Johnny Johnson]

In article <bacf0$51b65909$414e828e$16...@EVERESTKC.NET>, Max, then Obama boot
licker <max....@lathymes.com> says...

Running away from all Obozo's scandals will not make them go away, Boot Licker.

Neither will trying to shift the focus to somethng so far in the past as the
Gulf War Redux.

[Spamßuster]

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On 6/10/2013 6:00 PM, Johnny Johnson wrote:

[Johnny Johnson]

In article <62c00$51b6704c$414e828e$28...@EVERESTKC.NET>, Obama Boot Licker
<max....@lathymes.com> says...

Except those 5,000+ gassed-to-death Kurd bodies in Halabja, you mean.

[Max Boot]

On 6/10/2013 6:00 PM, Johnny Johnson wrote:

I'm not running away from any of Obama's alleged scandals, chumpy.

[Dönn Messenheimer]

On 6/10/2013 6:02 PM, Karen Gordon, the HIV-oozing whore of Nanaimo, BC,

crapped all over the page:
>
>

> ==========================================================
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> KEEP IT THE HELL OUT OF CANADIAN NEWSGROUPS, THANKS
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Blow it out your gaping HIV-oozing ass, Karen.

[Max Boot]

On 6/10/2013 6:06 PM, Johnny Johnson wrote:

1988.

You lied. Bush lied. There were no WMD in Iraq in 2003, nor were there
any for several years prior.

[SaPeIsMa]

"Max Boot" <max....@lathymes.com> wrote in message
news:b3a8$51b61d01$414e828e$20...@EVERESTKC.NET...
> [headers vandalism repaired]
>
> On 6/10/2013 11:32 AM, Joe Cooper wrote:
>> RichTravsky <traRvE...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:51B503EB.5B20A727
>> @hotmail.com:
>>
>>> Claims about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction were a primary
>>> justification for the war, but U.S. forces have yet to find any such
>>> weapons.
>>
>> Not true - several chem labs containing degraded chemical weapons were
>> found, according to Wikipedia:
>
> Saddam's massive stockpiles of usable WMD were the justification for the
> invasion. No usable WMD were found. There is no valid evidence that they
> were spirited off to Syria or anywhere else.
>
> The WMD claim was a lie. It was not an "intelligence failure"; it was
> simply a lie.
>

At least it was a lie made by those who claim that it was the only reason..
It's also a lie by those who claim it was the primary reason

So tell us.
Which group of liars do you belong to ?

[SaPeIsMa]

"Max Boot" <max....@lathymes.com> wrote in message

news:62c00$51b6704c$414e828e$28...@EVERESTKC.NET...

> No evidence of WMD in Iraq.
>
>

redirection noted

You asked for proof that Saddam was trying to make people believe he had
WMDs
Just about everyone believed him

Liars like you are trying to claim 20/20 vision AFTER THE FACT and

rewrite history to meet your agenda


Time to send you to the shitpile, you dishonest shithead...

[SaPeIsMa]

"Max Boot" <max....@lathymes.com> wrote in message

news:4e2ec$51b68149$414e828e$58...@EVERESTKC.NET...

Whatever
Bush has been out of office for 6 years now.
Get some help for that BDS

[Scout]

One word.

NO!

"Spamßuster" <Spamßus...@nGet.ca> wrote in message
news:sGutt.2$on...@newsfe18.iad...

[Johnny Johnson]

In article <e9b9$51b67fb7$414e828e$46...@EVERESTKC.NET>, Boot Lickin' Max
<max....@lathymes.com> says...

The Third Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence that is counter to his
preconceived world view and the more difficult it becomes for him to refute it
without losing face the chance of him changing his criteria (goal post move)
approaches infinity.

>
> I'm not running away from any of Obama's alleged scandals, chumpy.
>

Yes, you are.

Stand your ground and address:

Operation Fast & Furious Scandal
Operation Fearless Distributing Scandal
Benghazi Consulate Massacre Scandal
Associated Press Scandal
James Rosen/Fox News Scandal
IRS Scandal
NSA Scandal
HHS Scandal
Etcetera, Etcetera, ETCETERA ....

Maybe this from today's The Washington Times will help you kep up with all the
Obozo Scandals:

The updated Obama scandals user handbook
Monday, June 10, 2013 - The Tygrrrr Express by Eric Golub

FARGO, ND, June 10, 2013 ? It is time to update our Obama scandals user
handbook. The original handbook was created just a month ago to explain the
multitude of scandals then oozing from the Obama Administration, but so fecund
has this administration been in breeding scandal, and so much more interesting
have the old scandals become, that the older handbook seems a relic of some
distant, more innocent age.

Scandal fatigue may cause the serious old breaches of public trust, the ones we
were talking about in May, to be ignored as old news in light of newer
revelations. Justice delayed is justice denied. The new Democratic tactic is to
decry GOP overreach. Republicans respond by pulling back for fear that the
Democrats might make the charge stick.

The ?old news syndrome? and reflexive pullback must be avoided at all cost. We
won?t fix the conditions that have caused these scandals by looking politely
away, as when an unsightly leper crosses our path. This calls for unflinching,
brutal, clinical honesty. It is not pleasant, but let us pull out our handbook
and remind ourselves what is at stake. Here are the updates.

Benghazi remains the most serious scandal. Four Americans were murdered by
radical Islamists connected to al Qaeda. The administration left them to die
when Lieutenant Colonel Gibson was ordered to stand down rather than attempt a
rescue mission. Nobody will disclose who gave Colonel Gibson that order.
Colonel David Hunt claims that the only person authorized to give that order is
the president.

United Nations Ambassador Susan Rice was sent on all five Sunday talk shows to
push a false narrative about an anti-Muslim film. The film-maker remains
imprisoned. Nobody will answer who ordered Rice to push the video narrative.

President Obama just appointed Rice as his National Security Advisor. This does
not require senate confirmation, inoculating Rice from testifying about
Benghazi as part of confirmation hearings. Rice remains accused of covering for
Obama and Hillary Clinton. Clinton can be compelled to testify again, but
committee Republicans may fear the political risks.

Fast and Furious remains serious. The botched gunrunning sting led to the
murder of border agent Brian Terry. No new information has surfaced, so the
same question Attorney General Eric Holder refused to answer last time still
applies. Nobody in the administration will say who ordered the program. Holder
has refused to resign.

IRS abuses come next, and plenty of new information exists. What is known is
that the IRS abused conservatives and other individuals considered enemies of
an administration unable to distinguish political opposition from criminality.

Originally the targeting was blamed on two low level employees in Cincinnati
who were not low level at all. Now 88 employees nationwide are ensnared, and
the original Cincinnati employees are claiming they acted under orders from
Washington. Former IRS Commissioner Doug Shulman visited the White House 157
times, far more than any cabinet member. Obama supporters insist these visits
were to discuss implementing Obamacare and never about targeting political
opponents.

IRS employee Lois Lerner created a firestorm when she incorrectly issued an
opening statement before invoking her Fifth Amendment privilege. South Carolina
Congressman Trey Gowdy immediately pointed out Lerner?s mistake, and panel
Chairman Darrell Issa of California has to decide whether to call her back to
testify again. The issue will be if he can handle the political heat, since
Democrats have decided to dredge up non-issues from four decades ago to
intimidate Issa. Lerner is on paid administrative leave. She has refused to
resign, and nobody in Washington knows how to fire her.

The IRS is in further unrelated trouble after being caught wasting $50 million
on pleasure junkets disguised as legitimate conferences. The expenditures could
be more, but the IRS lost their receipts. This is an exact replica of the GSA
scandal, where nobody was held accountable.

The AP scandal initially appeared to be a non-scandal. The White House seized
telephone records of AP reporters, citing national security. The White House
also monitored Fox News reporter James Rosen, even tracking his parents.

Where this becomes a scandal is with Eric Holder insisting he never intended to
prosecute Rosen, who was performing normal reporter functions. The problem with
Holder?s claim is that to obtain a warrant, he had to tell a judge that Rosen
was a potential criminal. Either Holder lied to the judge or the public. Even
more troubling is Holder going judge shopping until his warrant was granted.
Two judges rejected Holder?s argument, but the third one complied.

The administration declared war on Fox News upon taking office, since they
consider FNC an enemy. Other FNC employees have also been monitored.

A new scandal involving the NSA may be overblown. The administration was data
mining phone company, ISP, and credit card company records. The program has
existed since 2006, and the administration is again citing national security as
a justification. Obama insists that nobody in the White House is listening in
on private citizens? telephone calls.

While Libertarians are enraged, data mining is useful in the war on terror.
However, listening to phone calls would cross the line. Obama has a credibility
problem based on the other scandals. Initial reports cited Verizon. One day
later, like the IRS scandal, many more organizations were ensnared. If this
went beyond data mining into eavesdropping, this scandal would escalate
significantly. As of now, it seems to be a distraction from Benghazi and the
other serious scandals.

No new information has developed in the last month with regards to possible
abuses by the EPA or HHS. At EPA, Lisa Jackson remains accused of using a fake
email account to hide correspondence. This is on top of Solyndra and other
fraudulent green investments. At HHS, Kathleen Sebelius is insisting that her
fundraising for Obamacare is legal, while legal experts are contradicting her.

The last scandal remains the entire Obama record, which gets worse by the
minute. His nomination of Samantha Power to be the new United Nations
Ambassador has sparked outrage. She does require senate confirmation, and may
be one of the only people connected with Obama to ever be forced to answer
questions. Her husband is environmental Czar Cass Sunstein, which could lead
back to EPA questions. That remains speculative at this time since Power is
known more for advocating destructive policies on the foreign side rather than
the domestic.

Another updated Obama scandals user handbook will be produced as needed. At the
rate the Obama administration is going, that could be at any minute.

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On 6/10/2013 4:56 PM, David R. Birch wrote:

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On 6/10/2013 4:41 PM, Max Boot wrote:
>

[deep]

On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 21:50:02 -0500, Johnny Johnson
<TopCo...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Another updated Obama scandals user handbook will be produced as needed. At the
>rate the Obama administration is going, that could be at any minute.

Yet you no doubt think Reagan was a great President.

Hypocrite...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan_administration_scandals

The presidency of Ronald Reagan in the United States was marked by
multiple scandals, resulting in the investigation, indictment, or
conviction of over 138 administration officials, the largest number
for any US president.[1]

[Max Boot]

The lie was the one told by Bush and his regime that there were WMD in
Iraq and that it warranted an invasion. There were no WMD, Bush knew
it, and none of the other reasons/lies warranted the invasion.

[Max Boot]

On 6/10/2013 7:15 PM, SaPeIsMa lied:

> "Max Boot" <max....@lathymes.com> wrote in message
> news:62c00$51b6704c$414e828e$28...@EVERESTKC.NET...

>> On 6/10/2013 4:58 PM, David R. Birch lied:

>>> On 6/10/2013 6:41 PM, Max Boot wrote:

>>>> On 6/10/2013 4:32 PM, Scout lied:

>>> [W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and [snip political
>>> wheeze]

>>
>> No evidence of WMD in Iraq.
>>
>>
>
> redirection noted
>
> You asked for proof that Saddam was trying to make people believe he had
> WMDs

...and the liar Birch didn't offer any. Instead, he trotted out all the
discredited wheeze.

No evidence of WMD in Iraq. No evidence that Saddam was trying to make
people think he had WMD. The US regime knew he didn't have them.

No justification for the invasion.

[Max Boot]

So why are you still trying to invade his costly, illegal, immoral and
worthless invasion?

[Max Boot]

Sorry...meant to write 'defend'. Same question with the right word:
why are you still trying to defend his costly, illegal, immoral and
worthless invasion?

Try to answer without lying, for a change.

[George Plimpton]

On 6/10/2013 7:50 PM, Johnny Johnson lied:
> In article <e9b9$51b67fb7$414e828e$46...@EVERESTKC.NET>, Max Boot helpfully explained:
>>
>> On 6/10/2013 6:00 PM, Johnny Johnson lied:

>>
>>> In article <bacf0$51b65909$414e828e$16...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
>>> Max Boot wrote:
>>>>
>>>> [headers vandalism by gutless squat-to-piss cocksucker and bootlick
>>>> repaired]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/10/2013 3:35 PM, Joe Cooper, spineless bootlick, lied:
>>>>
>>>>>> [headers vandalism by gutless squat-to-piss cocksucker repaired]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/10/2013 2:12 PM, Joe Cooper, spineless bootlick, lied:
>>
>>>>>>> Max Boot <max....@lathymes.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:daac0$51b63e2d$414e828e$29...@EVERESTKC.NET:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [headers vandalism by gutless squat-to-piss cocksucker repaired]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am always fascinated by the proggie obsession with homosexual acts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nice try at playing The Queer Game...and failing at it, as always.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not one of those shows that *any* usable WMD, let alone the allegedly
>>>>>>>> massive stockpiles of them, were found.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry, Bubba, but they were THERE,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, Squeaky - they *weren't* "THERE".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Even the liberal rag the NY Post covered the story:
>>>
>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Does not show evidence of any usable, deliverable WMD. Dismissed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does not show Bush lied.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course it does. He claimed there were massive stockpiles of intact,
>>>>>> usable WMD. He knew there weren't. The worthless and unnecessary
>>>>>> and illegal invasion proved it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nonsense He claimed they were there, and he was correct.
>>>>
>>>> He claimed massive stockpiles of usable WMD were there, and he was
>>>> incorrect. In fact, it was worse than being incorrect - it was a baldfaced
>>>> and deliberate lie.
>>>>
>>> Running away from all Obozo's scandals will not make them go away,
>>
> The Third Law of Leftist Debate

[snip]

>> I'm not running away from any of Obama's alleged scandals, chumpy.
>>
> Yes, you are.

No, not running away from anything, chumpy.

[Max Boot]

On 6/10/2013 8:21 PM, deep wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 21:50:02 -0500, Johnny Johnson
> <TopCo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Another updated Obama scandals user handbook will be produced as needed. At the
>> rate the Obama administration is going, that could be at any minute.
>
> Yet you no doubt think Reagan was a great President.

Reagan *was* a great president. Obama is not - not even remotely close.

[Max Boot]

On 6/10/2013 8:13 PM, Karen Gordon, the HIV-oozing whore of Nanaimo, BC,

crapped all over the page:
>
>

This *will*, of course, stay right in the newsgroups where I posted it,
and Karen Gordon, the HIV-oozing whore of Nanaimo, will take it and like it.

[Max Boot]

On 6/10/2013 8:13 PM, Karen Gordon, the HIV-oozing whore of Nanaimo, BC,
crapped all over the page:

>

<snicker>

[Scout]

"Max Boot" <max....@lathymes.com> wrote in message

news:26419$51b6a20d$414e828e$19...@EVERESTKC.NET...

Ok....please prove that Bush knew it.

[Scout]

"Max Boot" <max....@lathymes.com> wrote in message

news:51a0e$51b6a63c$414e828e$22...@EVERESTKC.NET...

Maybe you should ask Obama...he's the one that is still fighting it.

[Scout]

"Max Boot" <max....@lathymes.com> wrote in message

news:32f94$51b6a60e$414e828e$22...@EVERESTKC.NET...

Please post your proof of that. Be sure to include all classified Intel to
support your claims.

[Max Boot]

On 6/10/2013 9:35 PM, scooter lied:

Oh, please, scooter. Don't be such a sap. Bush's intelligence and
military people knew there were no WMD in Iraq. They couldn't *not*
know it. They knew it - that's settled. If they knew it, Bush knew
it...or, are you suggesting the entire military and espionage complex
lied to the commander-in-chief?

Bush knew there were no WMD. *YOU* know that he knew it. Since he knew
there were no WMD and yet he told the Congress, the UN, the American
people and the world that there were, Bush lied.

Stop being such a simpleton, scooter.

[Max Boot]

defend - wrong word slipped in

>> his costly, illegal, immoral and worthless invasion?
>
> Maybe you should ask Obama...he's the one that is still fighting it.

No, Obama is not waging Bush's stupid, illegal, immoral, unnecessary war
in Iraq.

[Max Boot]

On 6/10/2013 9:37 PM, scooter lamely tried:

Please post your proof that they had evidence reasonably pointed to
Saddam having WMD, and no evidence to the contrary.

Thought so.

[Scout]

"Max Boot" <max....@lathymes.com> wrote in message

news:3ad51$51b6ac0b$414e828e$24...@EVERESTKC.NET...

Do you consider unsupported assertion to be proof?

Ok, well I will consider your rants to be along the lines of those of Elvis
living with Hitler in his secret base on Mars.

In short, it's your fantasy lacking even a shred of proof.

[Scout]

"Max Boot" <max....@lathymes.com> wrote in message

news:d3c74$51b6ac55$414e828e$24...@EVERESTKC.NET...

He sure as hell was, and expanded and moved that war to yet more countries.

But you've already acknowledged that you're dealing with your delusions not
supported reality.

[Scout]

"Max Boot" <max....@lathymes.com> wrote in message

news:398fe$51b6ac9b$414e828e$24...@EVERESTKC.NET...

I'm not the one making claims he had them or didn't have them. You, on the
other hand claim to KNOW what the US knew he had or didn't have.

Oddly, you can't back up that assertion with facts. You simply run around
with your hands waving above your head and claiming that proof is
unnecessary because YOU said it was so.