Atlas 12" Lathe Model 111
Louis Boyd
Jim McIlvaine wrote:
>
> The lathe appears to be 12" swing by about
> 40" between centers. Also, this machine has a QC gearbox. Plenty of tooling
> also, including 3 & 4 jaw chucks, taper attachment, set of collets, and
> steel floor cabinet.
> Any info on rough price ranges for a machine like this (we're in the
> Philadelphia, PA region)?
I paid $2200 last spring for Craftsman/Clausing lathe which is close to
your description with milling attachment, three chucks, and misc. set of
tools.
Not identical to yours but similar in performance. It too had been in a
home workshop and had little use and good care. I think it was a fair
price.
Lou Boyd
VAntonova
>I paid $2200 last spring for Craftsman/Clausing lathe which is close to
>your description with milling attachment, three chucks, and misc. set of
>tools.
>Not identical to yours but similar in performance. It too had been in a
>home workshop and had little use and good care. I think it was a fair
>price.
I don't know about the prices in your area but around here this is
awefully high. If it's a Craftsman with flat ways it sells very cheap
around here. A friend of mine (a small-time dealer) bough a nice (hardly
used but dirty) 13x42" Craftsman with 2 and 4 jaw, milling attachment,
tooling, in good condition for $250. He was happy to make $200 on it and
sold it for $450. I saw a smaller one in the newspaper last week for $300.
And the week before that a 13x?? for $500. And there's a 12x42" in
beautiful; condition (shiney new paint, scratcless ways) lots of tooling
for $700 and nobody is buying that because it's too expensive.
Generally Atlas lathes aren't worth more than $600.
Alex.
Davidlindq
In article <337EEB...@mopac.com>, Jim McIlvaine <mcil...@mopac.com>
writes:
>The widow of a retired machinist is interested in selling an Atlas
>Model # 111 S/N 8722 lathe. I had about a 5 minute look at it
>last evening. The lathe appears to be 12" swing by about
>40" between centers. I'm not qualified to properly evaluate condition,
>except that it certainly appears to have been well cared for. Don't
>know whether headstock bearings are babbit or timken. Bed does not
>appear to be what everyone here describes as flat, but has inverted
>V front and rear. Also, this machine has a QC gearbox. Plenty of tooling
>also, including 3 & 4 jaw chucks, taper attachment, set of collets, and
>steel floor cabinet.
(snip)
>... could anyone
>help with the following:
>Any info on age and "official" specs of this machine?
>Is this an Atlas or an Atlas-Clausing?
I think this must be an Atlas-Clausing, made after Clausing became part of
Atlas Press Co. Clausing started in Ottumwa IA in the 1930's. I think
Atlas Press acquired Clausing since lathes marked Atlas Clausing then came
out of Kalamazoo (where Atlas was located). This merger occurred, as far
as I can tell, in the late 40's-early 50's. I have never been able to get
more precise information as to when this happened or the nature of the
combining of the 2 companies. In the late 1970's-early 80's the company
changed its name simply to Clausing. Someone at the time suggested to me
they wanted to distance themselves from the low end image of the flat bed
Atlas (and Craftsman). About this time production of the Atlas and
Clausing lathe lines was discontinued. They no longer make lathes in this
country. They import, as they have for decades, the British made
Colchester as well as a lower priced line made, I believe, in Spain.
I have two phone numbers for Clausing:
Clausing Service Center in Goshen IN at (219) 533-0371 or at their
Kalamazoo location at 616-345-7155. Either or both may be able to tell you
the age from the serial number. For some reason Clausing lathes are not
listed in _Serial Number Reference Book_.
I had a Clausing Model 111, made in Ottumwa. At the time it was the top of
the line, having a clutched countershaft as well as a quick change gear
box and inverted vee ways. (I suspect Atlas acquired Clausing originally
in order to upgrade their lathe line). Swing was 12" over the bed, 8" over
the carriage with 36" between centers. Spindle bearings were tapered
Timken, there was a plate on the headstock so stating. 48 threads, 4-224
tpi on the quick change. Spindle nose was 1 1/2"- 8 tpi. Hole through
spindle accomodated a 3/4" diameter bar and it used 3C collets. In a lot
of ways it was a bit nicer than the flat bed Atlas. I don't know what year
the Model 111 was discontinued. Atlas-Calusing continued to develope and
improve their 12" lathe through the 1950's and 60's. By the time they quit
making the 12" in the late 70's-early 80's its features included an L-00
spindle nose, 1 3/8" capacity through the spindle and a variable speed
drive.
I sold mine because parts, in general, were no longer available (half nuts
in particular were worn, I didn't have the skills to make replacements and
this was 1979 so there was no RCM to turn to for help).
I can't recommend for or against purchase. Given all the accessories (even
a taper attachment) though, it sounds pretty good. Maybe one of the
machine tool dealers that frequently contribute here could suggest a fair
price to offer the widow.
David Lindquist
David...@aol.com
Steve Dari
>I don't know about the prices in your area but around here this is
>awefully high. If it's a Craftsman with flat ways it sells very cheap
>around here. A friend of mine (a small-time dealer) bough a nice (hardly
>used but dirty) 13x42" Craftsman with 2 and 4 jaw, milling attachment,
>tooling, in good condition for $250. He was happy to make $200 on it and
>sold it for $450. I saw a smaller one in the newspaper last week for
$300.
>And the week before that a 13x?? for $500. And there's a 12x42" in
>beautiful; condition (shiney new paint, scratcless ways) lots of tooling
>for $700 and nobody is buying that because it's too expensive.
>
>Generally Atlas lathes aren't worth more than $600.
>
>Alex.
>
May I ask what area you live in? Here in San Diego, I can't find reasonable
prices on machine tools to save my life. Even obviously broken down, beat
up, worn out pieces of junk are being offered for extraordinary prices.
Thanks,
Steve
Jim McIlvaine
The widow of a retired machinist is interested in selling an Atlas
Model # 111 S/N 8722 lathe. I had about a 5 minute look at it
last evening. The lathe appears to be 12" swing by about
40" between centers. I'm not qualified to properly evaluate condition,
except that it certainly appears to have been well cared for. Don't
know whether headstock bearings are babbit or timken. Bed does not
appear to be what everyone here describes as flat, but has inverted
V front and rear. Also, this machine has a QC gearbox. Plenty of tooling
also, including 3 & 4 jaw chucks, taper attachment, set of collets, and
steel floor cabinet.
Although I worked for the Controls division of Bridgeport Machines
for 11 years back in the 70's, my only machining experience is
a machine shop course taken as a freshman EE at Drexel Univ. back in
1962!
As a long time lurker and first time poster, could anyone
help with the following:
Any info on age and "official" specs of this machine?
Is this an Atlas or an Atlas-Clausing?
Any info on rough price ranges for a machine like this (we're in the
Philadelphia, PA region)?
Thanks in advance for any help,
Jim
Jim McIlvaine
Jim McIlvaine wrote:
>
> The widow of a retired machinist is interested in selling an Atlas
> [remainder of message deleted]
Clarification: in my previous post I neglected to say that I'm
interested in purchasing the machine, not helping to sell it!
Michael P. Henry
Well, I just paid $1,000 for a Craftsman 12x36 lathe with quick change
gearbox, collet set, custom milling attachment, 3 & 4-jaw, set of
toolholders, boring bars, assorted measuring instruments, a variety of
cutters, steady rest & follower rest, and a bunch of old books. There's
some other stuff in various boxes that I haven't gone through yet. He's
the original owner and bought it 40 some years ago. The milling attachment
was custom made by him based on an article in the April 1954 Popular
Science for an attachment for a 10" Craftsman lathe. He still had the mold
and an extra set of castings.
I wasn't sure about the price having remembered from rcm that
Craftsman/Atlas lathes aren't regarded in the same class as SB, Logan & the
higher priced stuff. A foray through Deja News turned up sales prices of
$400 to $1500 for Craftsman/Atlas in the 6x?? to 12x?? size ranges and Dave
Ficken seemed to think that $900 was a fair price for a 12" Craftsman in
good condition provided that it had timken bearings, rather than babbitt,
and that extensive tooling would boost the price. Meridian had no
comparable lathes listed at their site, but Paramount listed 2 12x??
Craftsman or Atlas lathes for $1850 and $2150 or so. I may have paid too
much, but the seller wasn't willing to come down at all, the lathe seemed
to be in very good shape and I've seen no other used lathes on the market
during the past 6 months or so of periodic looking.
An old post also turned up from you that ranked lathe brands and, as I
recall, you ranked Atlas just a bit higher than Sherline. At least I'm
moving up a bit and I figure I should be able to get most of what I paid
out of it if I ever decide to move up. I wasn't planning on something
bigger than my Sherline for a year or so, but the last time I agonized over
a good deal I lost it and I've regretted it ever since.
Now I just need to get it moved home and set up.
VAntonova <vant...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19970518154...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
> >I paid $2200 last spring for Craftsman/Clausing lathe which is close to
> >your description with milling attachment, three chucks, and misc. set of
> >tools.
> >Not identical to yours but similar in performance. It too had been in a
> >home workshop and had little use and good care. I think it was a fair
> >price.
>
Michael P. Henry
As I posted downthread I just picked up a 12x36 Craftsman lathe for $1,000
with a similar set of tooling. This one is 40+ years old, has flat ways,
looks to be in good to excellent condition (in my inexperienced eyes), and
the seller is the original owner. You might want to run a search through
www.dejanews.com on Atlas or Craftsman - there are a number of threads
there on the subject.
Jim McIlvaine <mcil...@mopac.com> wrote in article
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> The widow of a retired machinist is interested in selling an Atlas
William T Bartlett
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DoN. Nichols
In article <5ltd83$7...@hoh.olympus.net>,
William T Bartlett <wtb...@olympus.net> wrote:
>Thanks Joe
>Some times IE4 does some strange things, but my post looks OK on my
>newsreader
> Heather & Joe Way wrote in article <338216...@psln.com>...
>>Jens wrote:
>
>>Here we go again with the word wrap question. Maybe one of the computer
>>gurus can answer this.
>>. Why do some
>>(but apparently only a few) people see them as one long line? And do
>>some newsreaders not offer an option to wrap long lines in the reader as
>>Netscape does?
>>
>>Joe
Usenet news got its start on unix systems, with CRT terminals which
had a fixed 80x24 display format. While some would wrap (awkwardly) by
breaking a line at the right margin, whether in the middle of a word or not,
others would lose anything past the right margin.
As a result, *everybody* wrapped the text themselves. Some editors
used by news posting software grew the ability to automatically wrap what
is typed into them, and *keep* it wrapped on the output.
Most people using unix systems keep this in mind, and avoid the
problem (though Sun provide "vnews", which called an editor called
"textedit", which *only* wrapped on the screen, causing much wailing and
gnashing of teeth among the rest of us. It also used a proportional space
font, making it very difficult for those who attempted to judge the line
length and wrap appropriately to get things right. (Something with a lot of
'i's and 'l's would take less screen width than the same number of
characters with a lot of 'M's and 'W's.)
Then comes Netscape (an excelent web browser), with the idea of
being the end-all of communications packages, so it grows the ability to
handle usenet news and e-mail. Since it has text-folding for the screen as
part of its function, it of course used that for the news and e-mail, again
generating grief in the land of those who were using fixed-width terminals,
or windows which acted the same.
Netscape grew comptetitors, who followed Netscape's lead, instead of
making things better for *everybody*. As a matter of fact, they made things
*worse*, because they added as a default to send out e-mail and news with an
*extra* copy following the plain text -- in *html* format, thus encouraging
everyone to do horrible things like including <blink> blinking </blink>
text. (If you're reading this with one of those, the word "blinking" above
is probably blinking at you, and driving you nuts.)
So -- in essence, those who have systems which fold on the screen
only will have no problems with the long lines, but will probably view
things formatted with normal line lengths as wierd, because they will be
viewing in proportional space fonts. (On *my* screen, the following two
lines after the blank one are the same length.)
llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
And -- those who have the systems with the fixed screen width (or an
emulation thereof), will have no problem with the limited length lines, but
will be forever cursing out whoever is using the long lines.
As an example -- when I'm *reading* the article, it will have words
broken in the middle -- wherever it hits the right margin (because I'm using
'less' to format for viewing.
However, when I got to followup or reply, I will see each paragraph
as a single line, ending a the right margin with a '!', indicating that some
as yet uncertain amount of text is past that margin. If, by some chance,
someone has typed a pargraph longer than 2048 characters without a hard
return, everything past the 2048th character of that line -- all the way to
the end of the article, will be thrown away by the editor, with a
"Excessive line length -- truncated"
warning in the bottom status line.
So -- if you are using something which insists on folding *only* on
your screen, please do the following:
1) Select a fixed-width font (Courier is a good choice).
2) Hit a return whenever you near the right margin. (72 characters is
considered about the longest which is really polite, since when an
article is quoted, it gains ore or two characters at the left for
each level of quotation.
In *all* cases:
3) Please try to avoid using a word processor to pre-edit your text,
since it tends to put in weird characters. An example is what I
frequently see as "<84>" on my screen, where an apostrophe should be.
It<84>s quite awkward, as you can see from the example which starts
this line. :-)
4) Of course, even worse is posting something in, e.g. Microsoft Word
format as a .doc file. Your posting software is going to encode it
in some way to protect all the weird things in there. (The common
ways are uuencode or base64.) While it *is* possible to turn it
back into a .doc file on a unix system, it is a rather useless
thing, since a .doc file from MS Word is mostly formatting
information and font tables. A 1000-byte article can take 16k of
space -- and be nearly imposible to make sense of on a system which
doesn't have that word processor.
If you *have* to use a word processor, because it is the only editor
that you have, *please* save it as an ASCII file (.txt on MS Word, I
believe), and send *that*, which is a lot more likely to be read by
everybody.
So -- Good luck, all,
DoN.
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> carriage returns.
>
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Here we go again with the word wrap question. Maybe one of the computer
gurus can answer this.
I have gotten the same complaint on my posts, even though my newsreader
(Netscape at the moment-trying to get FreeAgent working) automatically
wraps the words at the end of the lines as I write. When I look at my
posts later, they come up wrapped same as they were written. Why do some
(but apparently only a few) people see them as one long line? And do
some newsreaders not offer an option to wrap long lines in the reader as
Netscape does?
Joe
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William T Bartlett
Thanks Joe
Some times IE4 does some strange things, but my post looks OK on my
newsreader
Heather & Joe Way wrote in article <338216...@psln.com>...
>Jens wrote:
>Here we go again with the word wrap question. Maybe one of the computer
>gurus can answer this.
reg h beardsley
1) People read Usenet news in many ways. Some get it via email because
they don't have other access.
2) Wrapping is a display feature. It does not insert newlines
automatically into the text.
3) Not inserting newlines becomes a problem because some of the transport
software inserts newlines which may or may not be where they should be.
4) You don't see the problem because your newsreader settings are the same
as when you posted and presumably no transport agent "enhancements" have
been made.
There are a vast number of newsreaders. All of them have different features.
On top of that, they set different default values for features they do share
and some users set some differently.
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In message <338216...@psln.com> - Heather & Joe Way
<sier...@psln.com>Tue, 20 May 1997 14:25:41 -0700 writes:
:->I have gotten the same complaint on my posts, even though my newsreader
:->(Netscape at the moment-trying to get FreeAgent working) automatically
:->wraps the words at the end of the lines as I write. When I look at my
:->posts later, they come up wrapped same as they were written. Why do some
:->(but apparently only a few) people see them as one long line?
Some readers only format the text on screen, they don't insert hard
returns into the file that actually gets sent out.
And do
:->some newsreaders not offer an option to wrap long lines in the reader as
:->Netscape does?
Mine does not wrap incoming text, anytime I see a message that isn't
wrapped, I skip it...
Outgoing does get formatted tho, while I'm typing, the text is
wrapped at the end of the window, ~100 characters. Once the file is
saved, hard returns are inserted after every 70 characters(or
thereabouts)
pdr...@dwave.net <http://www.dwave.net/~pdrumm>
Using OS/2 Warp 4!
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All opinions are mine alone, you go get your own!
LeonardMB
Still more problems are introduced by newsreaders which automatically wrap
outgoing text at some chosen line length. Suppose we both have our
readers set to wrap at 70 columns. You post an article. I reply to it.
My reply has a paragraph of your text, with each line preceded by a '>'
character. Everything looks great on the screen, since my window has room
for 100 or more columns. I post the article, and my reader now chops the
last word off selected lines of your text and places them on lines by
themselves.
About the only way around this is to set a generous wrap length, then type
your text with very short lines, and hope everyone else does the same.
A smart newsreader would suppress wrapping of any line beginning with '>'.
Unfortunately, smart software seems hard to find. It certainly won't be
coming from AOL. Theirs doesn't even provide a way of reading and writing
news in the font of my choice (e.g. Courier).
Marc Leonard
Leon...@aol.com
<Pet peeve mode off>
Glen Harris
On Tue, 20 May 1997 18:11:14 -0700, Jens <p...@islandnet.com> wrote:
> Heather & Joe Way <sier...@psln.com> wrote:
> >Why do some
> >(but apparently only a few) people see them as one long line?
>
> (ducking and hy-tailing it out-a-here)
I'm using a modern UNIX clone, Linux, and it posts properly. Your post
looked fine from here, too. The wrapping problem usually comes from a
Sun or DEC box running one of the proprietary packaged newsreaders which
run in the X11 or equivalent windowing systems. These readers sometimes
use an editor which soft-wraps lines at the end of a line, but doesn't
insert a carriage return character. Some older Macintosh software had a
similar problem. Most editors have a configuration option to force
hard-return insertion.
Cheers, glen.
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Heather & Joe Way (sier...@psln.com) wrote:
: Here we go again with the word wrap question. Maybe one of the computer
: gurus can answer this.
: I have gotten the same complaint on my posts, even though my newsreader
: (Netscape at the moment-trying to get FreeAgent working) automatically
Depends a lot on the newsreader. I tend to use 'tin' which as I have it
set up, reads in an 80 column window, but when I write, it uses the 'vi'
text editor which works well with reasonably short lines.
I notice wordwrap problems, but seldom (I think) complain about them. It
might have something to do with the stuff I work with at work--I could
use some 250 character lines at times. Wish I could have a couple-three
CRTs in a row for such things....
I don't know about Netscape news (it's deactivated during work hours
around here), but a lot of news systems let you use another editor
and import the text. If you used, say, Word and set things up for a
plain text file with 10point Courier, you'd probably notice weird lines
pretty well.
(BTW, tin actually complains if I have a line longer than 78 characters.)
Pete Brooks
DoN. Nichols
In article <19970522012...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
LeonardMB <leon...@aol.com> wrote:
>Still more problems are introduced by newsreaders which automatically wrap
>outgoing text at some chosen line length. Suppose we both have our
>readers set to wrap at 70 columns. You post an article. I reply to it.
>My reply has a paragraph of your text, with each line preceded by a '>'
>character. Everything looks great on the screen, since my window has room
>for 100 or more columns. I post the article, and my reader now chops the
>last word off selected lines of your text and places them on lines by
>themselves.
I've seen examples of this. Yes, it can be a pain.
>About the only way around this is to set a generous wrap length, then type
>your text with very short lines, and hope everyone else does the same.
Or ...
>A smart newsreader would suppress wrapping of any line beginning with '>'.
> Unfortunately, smart software seems hard to find.
It depends in part on what is available for your platform, and in
part on the way you set up what you select.
In my case, the newsreader (strn) puts the quoting characters along
with the quoted text into a file, then it calls up an editor (of your
choice) to allow you to delete lines which are no longer relevant, and add
those which you wish to add.
My choice of editor, jove, will accept existing text with long
lines, and keep them intact. If they are *very* long lines (from some of
those never-wrap-in-a-paragraph systems, I will usually wrap the whole
paragraph prior to responding to it. In this editor, it consists of
ensuring that there is a totally blank line above and below the paragraph in
question, moving the cursor into the line representing the start of the
paragraph, and hitting ESC-j to cause the whole paragraph to be folded.
If your newsreader allows you to choose your editor, and you're
working on a PC, it is possible to get jove compiled to run on a PC. (I use
it whenever I'm forced to work on a PC.) For my unix system, the lines in
the .joverc file which control the behavior for news and e-mail are:
auto-execute-command auto-fill-mode /tmp/snd\..*\|/tmp/Re\|/tmp/article
auto-execute-command auto-fill-mode .*/\.article$\|\.article$
auto-execute-command auto-fill-mode .*/\.letter$\|~/.letter$\|.letter$
auto-execute-command set right-margin 72 /tmp/snd\..*\|/tmp/Re\|/tmp/article
auto-execute-command set right-margin 72 .*/\.article$\|\.article$
auto-execute-command set right-margin 72 .*/\.letter$\|~/.letter$\|.letter$
The first group of three recognize various filename patterns
corresponding to e-mail and news articles in editing, and turn on the
auto-fill mode (break lines at last space before the right margin limit.
The second group recognizes the same filename patterns, and sets the
right margin point to be at the 72nd column.
You would probably have to change the patterns which it is looking
for to match the format on your system used by your newsreader, but hte
commands themselves would be the same. As a clue to understanding what is
there, '.' represents any character, '*' means zero or more matches of the
preceeding character, '\' is the escape character, which removes special
meaning from the character that follows it, so "\." actually looks for a
'.', not any character. '$' means the end of a line. '/' just happens to
be the subdirectory separator on unix, just as '\' is on a PC.
So -- *if* you have a choice of software (and what *I* use is free
to the world), you can deal with many of the problems in a rather painless
way -- or at least, minimize the problems which *you* might otherwise cause.
> It certainly won't be
>coming from AOL. Theirs doesn't even provide a way of reading and writing
>news in the font of my choice (e.g. Courier).
That is unfortunate. If AOL were to provide more options to use
existing software, instead of operating on the NIH (Not Invented Here)
philosophy, things would be a *lot* better on the net today. AOL's software
is responsible (at least in part) for the unfortunate reputation that AOL
users have to face on the net. (At one time, it was spitting out four or
more copies of each article an individual posted, which of course gets old
fast. I still see some signs of that in this newsgroups, though it no
longer seems to be the AOL accounts to which it is happening.
Good Luck,
DoN.
P.S. Has the volume gone way down on everything for the weekend, or is
this an artifact of my new news provider?
Charles Friedman DDS
I recently acquired a powermatic 45 wood lathe. I would like to learn
how to do metal spinning using wood forms as a chuck and up to 10 inch
diameter metal disks. I would like to use copper, brass, aluminum, and
sterling silver. I know how to anneal the metals, and I have tried my
hand at spinning some of them. I need quidance on refining the technique
and the tools.
Any leads to old shop texts or other information would be appreciated. I
have followed this group on and off for a few years, but don't remember
this topic.
Thanks for the help.
Charles Friedman DDS, Prosthodontist
Atlanta,GA
Doug VanderLaan
Charles Friedman DDS <thd...@mail.idt.net> wrote
> I would like to learn how to do metal spinning
> Any leads to old shop texts or other information would be appreciated
I have a book (from the library) called "Modern Metalworking" be John R.
Walker, published by Goodheart-Wilcox in 1973.
It appears to be a tech school or junior college textbook. It has a very
nice chapter on spinning. In fact, I checked it out from the library just
for the spinning chapter, because a local friend was also looking for the
basics of how to spin.
Heather & Joe Way
DoN. Nichols wrote:
>
> P.S. Has the volume gone way down on everything for the weekend, or is
> this an artifact of my new news provider?
>
(Monday) about 8pm there were about 275 messages. Still 146 left after
yours.
Joe
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Abrasha
Charles Friedman DDS wrote:
>
> I recently acquired a powermatic 45 wood lathe. I would like to learn
> how to do metal spinning using wood forms as a chuck and up to 10 inch
> diameter metal disks. I would like to use copper, brass, aluminum, and
> sterling silver. I know how to anneal the metals, and I have tried my
> hand at spinning some of them. I need quidance on refining the technique
> and the tools.
> Any leads to old shop texts or other information would be appreciated. I
> have followed this group on and off for a few years, but don't remember
> this topic.
> Thanks for the help.
>
Charles,
Check out Lindsay Publications site at http://www.keynet.net/~lindsay/
They have a number of books on metal spinning you can find them when you click on "All
Metal Books", which will lead you to http://www.keynet.net/~lindsay/metal/index.html
Them find "spinning".
Also, request their catalogue. Lots of great books on metalworking from a period long
gone.
Abrasha
http://www.abrasha.com
jcholl...@gmail.com
> >
> > The lathe appears to be 12" swing by about
> > steel floor cabinet.
>
> > Philadelphia, PA region)?
>
> your description with milling attachment, three chucks, and misc. set of
> tools.
> Not identical to yours but similar in performance. It too had been in a
> home workshop and had little use and good care. I think it was a fair
> price.
I have an atlas model 111 and serial number 1-6804, nice lathe very versatile and small enough you don't need a major crane service to set. Asking 2500.00 with all tooling, bit holders, bits , taper attachments, large chuck, tail stock.
Call john at 720 280 5577 or check out Craigs list Denver for pics.
Lloyd E. Sponenburgh
news:15284bb8-e814-44d7...@googlegroups.com:
> I have an atlas model 111 and serial number 1-6804, nice lathe very
> versatile and small enough you don't need a major crane service to
> set. Asking 2500.00 with all tooling, bit holders, bits , taper
> attachments, large chuck, tail stock. Call john at 720 280 5577 or
> check out Craigs list Denver for pics.
light, very bendy and twisty lathes that require setup on a super-rigid
base.
That's a crazy price for for such a light lathe, unless the "etc" after
the word "all" is incredibly large. It darned-well BETTER come with a
tailstock; that was part of the machine, as-shipped.
Atlas owner, speaking.
Llyd