30" roll/brake/shear...
Pete C.
I just got one of the 30" roll/brake/shear unit, still in my truck to be
unloaded tomorrow. I recall a few discussions of these machines here in
the past, is there a site somewhere covering the various tweaks, tricks
and upgrades for them like there are for the 4x6 H/V bandsaws?
Thanks,
Pete C.
JR North
is VERY top heavy. You must bolt it down solidly, unless you want to
try catching it. Also, the max shear thickness is 20GA. Exceed this,
and be prepared to buy a new table. The shear req considerable
tweaking to work properly (I use that term loosely).
JR
Dweller in the cellar
On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:03:57 -0600, "Pete C." <aux3....@snet.net>
wrote:
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I'm interested in that info as well.
One subtlety that I noticed:
Both the upper and lower blades are the same part number.
In a pinch, one could swap the blades and get a new edge.
http://www.harborfreight.com/manuals/5000-5999/5907.PDF
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Larry Jaques
<aux3....@snet.net> scrawled the following:
Pete, just DAGS for "HotRodding Your 30" roll/brake/shear unit".
Simple!
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Larry Jaques
<Win...@bigbrother.net> scrawled the following:
>Pete C. wrote:
>> I just got one of the 30" roll/brake/shear unit, still in my truck to be
>> unloaded tomorrow. I recall a few discussions of these machines here in
>> the past, is there a site somewhere covering the various tweaks, tricks
>> and upgrades for them like there are for the 4x6 H/V bandsaws?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Pete C.
>
>I'm interested in that info as well.
>
>One subtlety that I noticed:
>Both the upper and lower blades are the same part number.
>In a pinch, one could swap the blades and get a new edge.
Um, Winnie, wouldn't that be far too much like turning over the pair
of scissors and cutting with them upside down? While that may work
fine for Australians, it doesn't seem to grab in the real world.
<dg&r>
Pete C.
Larry Jaques wrote:
>
> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:03:57 -0600, the infamous "Pete C."
> <aux3....@snet.net> scrawled the following:
>
> >
> >I just got one of the 30" roll/brake/shear unit, still in my truck to be
> >unloaded tomorrow. I recall a few discussions of these machines here in
> >the past, is there a site somewhere covering the various tweaks, tricks
> >and upgrades for them like there are for the 4x6 H/V bandsaws?
>
> Pete, just DAGS for "HotRodding Your 30" roll/brake/shear unit".
> Simple!
>
Not surprisingly, that search string returns no results either on
google, or on a real search engine (Altavista).
Winston
*Sigh*.
No, Larry.
The angled front of the upper blade slides against the square rear of
the lower blade. The square rear of the upper blade and the angled front
of the lower blade receive no wear at all. You can flip the positions of
the blades and get fresh cutting surfaces.
Glance at the side of the machine sometime and you will instantly see what
I'm talking about.
--Winston :)
Pete C.
JR North wrote:
>
> I'll dig up some pics of the roller stand I built for mine. The unit
> is VERY top heavy. You must bolt it down solidly, unless you want to
> try catching it. Also, the max shear thickness is 20GA. Exceed this,
> and be prepared to buy a new table. The shear req considerable
> tweaking to work properly (I use that term loosely).
> JR
> Dweller in the cellar
It would be good to see the stand to get some ideas. I don't need wheels
on mine since I have a palette jack to move stuff around in the shop, I
just have to design a stand with suitable clearance and stable lift
points for the palette jack.
As for function, I took the top of the crate off, installed the handle,
and with the unit still bolted to the bottom of the crate gave it a test
with some 28ga galv duct material I had on hand. The shear gave a clean
cut on about a 12" wide piece, it bent fine in the brake, and rolled
fine in the roller. Seems like a good start.
I think I'll design additional table support into the stand to provide a
little extra safety.
Larry Jaques
<Win...@bigbrother.net> scrawled the following:
>Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 23:01:51 -0800, the infamous Winston
>> <Win...@bigbrother.net> scrawled the following:
>>> One subtlety that I noticed:
>>> Both the upper and lower blades are the same part number.
>>> In a pinch, one could swap the blades and get a new edge.
>>
>> Um, Winnie, wouldn't that be far too much like turning over the pair
>> of scissors and cutting with them upside down? While that may work
>> fine for Australians, it doesn't seem to grab in the real world.
>> <dg&r>
>
>*Sigh*.
>
>No, Larry.
>
>The angled front of the upper blade slides against the square rear of
>the lower blade. The square rear of the upper blade and the angled front
>of the lower blade receive no wear at all. You can flip the positions of
>the blades and get fresh cutting surfaces.
I'd say that's probably a good design. It saves tooling money for the
mfgr and lowers consumer costs.
>Glance at the side of the machine sometime and you will instantly see what
>I'm talking about.
OK, I DLed ol' Manuel. He says "Lo siento, Hal. I can't show you that
angle." <shrug>
Winston
> On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 12:13:22 -0800, the infamous Winston
> <Win...@bigbrother.net> scrawled the following:
(..)
>> Glance at the side of the machine sometime and you will instantly see what
>> I'm talking about.
>
> OK, I DLed ol' Manuel. He says "Lo siento, Hal. I can't show you that
> angle." <shrug>
I snapped a pitcher. It's 88 KB.
Want I should eMail it to you?
--Winston
Doug White
news:0e10k5d022jh6ahca...@4ax.com:
> On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 12:13:22 -0800, the infamous Winston
> <Win...@bigbrother.net> scrawled the following:
>
>>Larry Jaques wrote:
>>> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 23:01:51 -0800, the infamous Winston
>>> <Win...@bigbrother.net> scrawled the following:
>>>> One subtlety that I noticed:
>>>> Both the upper and lower blades are the same part number.
>>>> In a pinch, one could swap the blades and get a new edge.
>>>
>>> Um, Winnie, wouldn't that be far too much like turning over the pair
>>> of scissors and cutting with them upside down? While that may work
>>> fine for Australians, it doesn't seem to grab in the real world.
>>> <dg&r>
>>
>>*Sigh*.
>>
>>No, Larry.
>>
>>The angled front of the upper blade slides against the square rear of
>>the lower blade. The square rear of the upper blade and the angled
>>front of the lower blade receive no wear at all. You can flip the
>>positions of the blades and get fresh cutting surfaces.
>
> I'd say that's probably a good design. It saves tooling money for the
> mfgr and lowers consumer costs.
The Di-Acro shears use rectangular bars for the blades. That way you get
4 cutting edges before you have to regrind.
Doug White
Winston
> Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in
> news:0e10k5d022jh6ahca...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 12:13:22 -0800, the infamous Winston
>> <Win...@bigbrother.net> scrawled the following:
(...)
>>> The angled front of the upper blade slides against the square rear of
>>> the lower blade. The square rear of the upper blade and the angled
>>> front of the lower blade receive no wear at all. You can flip the
>>> positions of the blades and get fresh cutting surfaces.
>> I'd say that's probably a good design. It saves tooling money for the
>> mfgr and lowers consumer costs.
>
> The Di-Acro shears use rectangular bars for the blades. That way you get
> 4 cutting edges before you have to regrind.
>
> Doug White
Very cool!
--Winston
Winston
> JR North wrote:
>> I'll dig up some pics of the roller stand I built for mine. The unit
>> is VERY top heavy. You must bolt it down solidly, unless you want to
>> try catching it. Also, the max shear thickness is 20GA. Exceed this,
>> and be prepared to buy a new table. The shear req considerable
>> tweaking to work properly (I use that term loosely).
>> JR
>> Dweller in the cellar
>
> It would be good to see the stand to get some ideas.
use-enco.com has the stand on sale for $110.
P/N 208-5610
http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INLMKD?SIITEM001=208-5610&SIQTY001=1&SICOUNT=1
Larry Jaques
<Win...@bigbrother.net> scrawled the following:
>Larry Jaques commented:
>> On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 12:13:22 -0800, the infamous Winston
>> <Win...@bigbrother.net> scrawled the following:
>
>(..)
>
>>> Glance at the side of the machine sometime and you will instantly see what
>>> I'm talking about.
>>
>> OK, I DLed ol' Manuel. He says "Lo siento, Hal. I can't show you that
>> angle." <shrug>
>
>I snapped a pitcher. It's 88 KB.
>Want I should eMail it to you?
Manuel says "See!"
Larry Jaques
<gwh...@alum.mit.edu> scrawled the following:
Di-Acro engineers knew their chit.
Winston
> On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 22:51:15 -0800, the infamous Winston
> <Win...@bigbrother.net> scrawled the following:
(...)
>> I snapped a pitcher. It's 88 KB.
>> Want I should eMail it to you?
>
> Manuel says "See!"
Sent!
--El Winstono
Larry Jaques
<Win...@bigbrother.net> scrawled the following:
>Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 22:51:15 -0800, the infamous Winston
>> <Win...@bigbrother.net> scrawled the following:
>
>(...)
>
>>> I snapped a pitcher. It's 88 KB.
>>> Want I should eMail it to you?
>>
>> Manuel says "See!"
>
>Sent!
Received the supercloseup, Winnie Poo. Danke mucho, monsieur.
Winston
> On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 09:05:31 -0800, the infamous Winston
> <Win...@bigbrother.net> scrawled the following:
>
>> Larry Jaques wrote:
>>> On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 22:51:15 -0800, the infamous Winston
>>> <Win...@bigbrother.net> scrawled the following:
>> (...)
>>
>>>> I snapped a pitcher. It's 88 KB.
>>>> Want I should eMail it to you?
>>> Manuel says "See!"
>> Sent!
>
> Received the supercloseup, Winnie Poo. Danke mucho, monsieur.
Soitny.
--Winston