A cool sight today
Steve B
Driving northward past Nellis Air Force Base, Nevada, and coming straight at
us on final southerly approach, a C-130. Unknown if just a cargo carrier,
or a Spooky, but one big fat slow beautiful airplane. My wife saw it first
and quipped, "What the hell is that?" It takes a lot to get her attention.
I just said it was a weapons platform that you would not want looking for
you.
Steve
Bob La Londe
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My Dad was a wingnut (electronic instrument tech) back in the 1960s and he
was always impressed with the C130. Its ability to take off form a short
jungle field, its ability to fly with engines falling off, its incredible
lifting capacity, and its absolutely incredible reliability. Every time we
see one he comments on the plane. Since I live about a mile and a half from
a major marine corps air station we get to see them pretty often.
Ned Simmons
CaveLamb
Look up the C-130 carrier quals for interesting video!
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Jon Danniken
Damn, that's impressive.
Jon
Steve B
"CaveLamb" <cave...@earthlink.net> wrote
>>
>> C-130 with JATO takeoff:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLFB7q8tyd8
>>
>
>
> Look up the C-130 carrier quals for interesting video!
>
> --
>
> Richard Lamb
That's gotta be a kick in the pants sensation when the rockets kick in.
I like watching gun camera stuff from Iraq and Afghanistan, and some of the
C-130 stuff they show is just incredible. I wouldn't want one of those
after me. We see all manner of aircraft at Nellis, but somehow, C-130's are
not common.
Steve
Heart surgery pending?
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Rich Grise
I once actually saw a C-130 backing up under its own power.
Cheers!
Rich
Larry Jaques
wrote:
Or the more extraordinary C-130 with JACRASH landing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gXfK4ypirI
--
Make the best use of what is in your power,
and take the rest as it happens.
-- Epictetus
Rich Grise
>>
>> Driving northward past Nellis Air Force Base, Nevada, and coming straight
>> at
>> us on final southerly approach, a C-130. Unknown if just a cargo
>> carrier,
>> or a Spooky, but one big fat slow beautiful airplane. My wife saw it
>> first
>> and quipped, "What the hell is that?" It takes a lot to get her
>> attention.
>> I just said it was a weapons platform that you would not want looking for
>> you.
>
> he
> was always impressed with the C130. Its ability to take off form a short
> jungle field, its ability to fly with engines falling off, its incredible
> lifting capacity, and its absolutely incredible reliability. Every time
> we
> see one he comments on the plane. Since I live about a mile and a half
> from a major marine corps air station we get to see them pretty often.
When I was in the USAF as an electronics countermeasures (or electronic
warfare, depending who you ask) tech, I saw a system that was under
development, called (I hope this is declassified by now - it's been
almost 40 years, after all!) a thing called a "spark-plug tracker."
It was a passive phased array antenna that could zero in on the electrical
noise from a "target," coupled to the gun turret.
They wound up not using it, because as soon as it zeroed in and told
the gun to fire, the recoil from the gun changed the trajectory of
the airplane, and the whole system almost guaranteed a miss.
Joke:
A Marine and an Air Force guy were peeing at the airport latrine. They
finished, the Marine headed for the sink, and the Air Force guy headed
for the door. The Marine said, "Hey flyboy! Don't they teach you to
wash your hands after you piss?" The Air Force guy said, "Nah, in the
Air Force they teach us not to piss on our hands."
True Story:
I was at the airport latrine, and my Dad (RIP), who was seeing me off with
the family, and I were peeing. My Dad headed for the door, and I said,
"Didn't Grandma teach you to wash your hands?" And Dear Old Dad said, "What
I was just holding on to wasn't dirty."
Cheers!
Rich
Rich Grise
and splatted themselves into a mountainside.
This guy claims to be 99 percent sure he made it up in 1978; I'm 100
percent sure he didn't, because I first heard it in 1969.
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/8.08/rocketcar.html
;-)
Cheers!
Rich
Jon Elson
>>
> I once actually saw a C-130 backing up under its own power.
Most large turboprops can back up quite nicely with their props
in reverse thrust.
Jon
Bob La Londe
And it was most likely a UL. It might have been done (it was done more
recently) but the results were probably not as dramatic as the tales
tell. Myth Busters did this one and decided that apply horsepower to
the road was much more efficient than applying it to the air.
Rich Grise
and I was in my early 20's, and (possibly unduly) impressed. :-)
Cheers!
Rich
John
Here is a picture of the first JATO on an aircraft.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:First_JATO_assisted_Flight_-_GPN-2000-001538.jpg
John
Edward A. Falk
>was always impressed with the C130. Its ability to take off form a short
>jungle field, its ability to fly with engines falling off, its incredible
>lifting capacity, and its absolutely incredible reliability.
I trained at a field where a lot of 'em were based. When you've seen
one doing a short-field approach at night, with all the lights on,
you see where the inspiration for "Close Encounters" must've come from.
Got caught in the wake turbulance of one once. Lesson learned.
--
-Ed Falk, fa...@despams.r.us.com
http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/
Edward A. Falk
Ned Simmons <ne...@nedsim.com> wrote:
>
>C-130 with JATO takeoff:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLFB7q8tyd8
Most impressive, but why wait until the aircraft is ready to rotate anyway
before lighting them off? Why not light them at the start of the runway,
if the goal is to get airborne as quickly as possible.
Steve B
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In the 60's, McCarran Airport in Las Vegas was right next to the road. They
didn't have any blast shields. On South Eastern, you could go park right at
the end of the runway, just outside the fence, and the incoming planes would
make your car rock like six drunk frat rats trying to turn it over. Then
safety and PC came in and they put up blast shields and moved the fence and
runways a little. On the south side, there was an area that you could
access by dirt roads where everyone went to spoon and spark. Millions of
babies must have been inseminated there over all the years. Now, it's a
paved lighted parking area on Sunset Road, but probably some hijinks go on
to this day.
Steve B
I would guess they were more efficient at 60 or 70 mph than from a dead
stop. They seem to ignite when the wheels leave the ground, so there is no
rolling resistance. And maybe they would blow holes in the asphalt.
CaveLamb
OR?
They have a very limited run-time and you wouldn't want them
to quit while too low and too slow...?
Steve B
"CaveLamb" <cave...@earthlink.net> wrote
> OR?
>
> They have a very limited run-time and you wouldn't want them
> to quit while too low and too slow...?
>
> --
>
> Richard Lamb
The youtube videos always seem to end before the rockets do, but I don't
imagine it is by that much. It says they run a 45 degree climb to 1500', so
running it after leveling off would have no purpose. Or, that's what I
guess from the info available.
Rich Grise
(snip)
> ... They seem to ignite when the wheels leave the ground,
That doesn't make sense, unless there's a mountain at the end of the runway.
If they don't light until the wheels have already left the ground, then they
shouldn't really call it jet (or rocket)- assisted _takeoff_, should
they? ;-)
Thanks,
Rich
John
ff you light them off at the beginning of the takeoff roll they won't
last long enough for when you really need them.
John
Martin Eastburn
to take off speed, proving it has power for flight and
all engines running. At lift-off, this power/speed is determined
and then the "boost me up to where the air is thin" is
turned on. Saves a lot of gas power driving up to height needed.
Typically it is a long glide path - in reverse.
If flying a heavy load over long distances - save gas for horizontal
flight and use Jato for vertical.
Martin