For The Survivalists... Apocalyptic Can Opener

[BottleBob]

All:

I apologize if this has been posted before, or is common knowledge. But I just got this forward and thought I'd pass it along. I'm sure someone will actually try this and let us know if it really works as advertised.



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#83
Theoretical speculations
Biased interpretations
Bogus evaluations
Are all eliminated by experimentation

[BottleBob]

Opps Sorry. It would help if I actually sent the forward, eh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH2NahLjx-Y#t=166

[Bob La Londe]

Ahnd ges vat! Caht gonna survive tu.

LOL





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[jon_banquer]

On Thursday, November 14, 2013 1:09:49 PM UTC-8, BottleBob wrote:

Thanks for posting "metalworking content" that Mark Wieber's clique of idiots can actually do.

[azotic]

"BottleBob" <bott...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> All:
>
> I apologize if this has been posted before, or is common knowledge.
> But I just got this forward and thought I'd pass it along. I'm sure
> someone will actually try this and let us know if it really works as
> advertised.
>
>
>
> --
> BottleBob
> http://home.earthlink.net/~bottlbob

C.H.U.D.S. Don't need no stinken can opener.

Best Regards
Tom.
--
http://fija.org/

[Larry Jaques]

On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 16:44:48 -0800, "azotic" <H.B...@network.com>
wrote:

'Splain your acronym, please, Tom.

And I have a P-51 on my keychain, JIC. I like it better than the tiny
P-38 they used in WWII, y'know, for my large and manly hands.

--
We are always the same age inside.
-- Gertrude Stein

[Stumpy]

>>
>>
>>C.H.U.D.S. Don't need no stinken can opener.
>
> 'Splain your acronym, please, Tom.
>

How did you miss a movie like that one? It's a classic.

[Stumpy]

>>>
>>>C.H.U.D.S. Don't need no stinken can opener.
>>
>> 'Splain your acronym, please, Tom.
>>
>
> How did you miss a movie like that one? It's a classic.
>

I forgot the link too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C.H.U.D.

[John B.]

You have a lot of time to waste, don't you. Retired?
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Cheers,

John B.

[azotic]

"Larry Jaques" <lja...@invalid.diversifycomm.com> wrote in message
news:pd3b89dds1nv2ijl0...@4ax.com...

It means Canibalistic Humanoid Underground Dweller.

[jon_banquer]

It's important to remember that with someone as talented as Bottlebob there is always something cooking.

Bottlebob formally worked for Gus Fring until his unexpected passing. He also spent time working for Vamonos Pest Control. Bottlebob is now a very busy consultant to Madrigal Electromotive GmbH as he has taken over all the responsibilities formally held by Lydia Rodarte-Quayle who recently passed away.

https://www.facebook.com/MadrigalElectromotive

"It is with great sadness that we say our goodbye to Senior Account Executive Lydia Rodarte-Quayle. In her career with Madrigal Electromotive GmbH Ms. Quayle used her international expertise and multilingual skills to expand our business network. She was instrumental in expanding the transportation network between the Southwestern United States and the former Eastern Bloc nations. Due to her diligent work the Houston office expanded by 200% during her tenure.

Unfortunately she contracted a virus believed to be H1N1 and passed away on Sunday September, 29th. She leaves a daughter, Kiira along with her favorite cat, Ozyman."

[BottleBob]

On Thursday, November 14, 2013 8:20:21 PM UTC-8, John B. wrote:

> >Opps Sorry. It would help if I actually sent the forward, eh?
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH2NahLjx-Y#t=166
>
>
> You have a lot of time to waste, don't you. Retired?

John B:

Waste?? But, but, it's METALWORKING related. Isn't it? :)

Your supposition is absolutely correct, retired it is.

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BottleBob
http://home.earthlink.net/~bottlbob

#70
The purpose of life, you see
Is only to increase entropy
Everything we are or become
Only speeds the FINAL equilibrium

[Larry Jaques]

On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 20:32:56 -0800, "azotic" <H.B...@network.com>
wrote:

<cringe> Oh, yes, I remember that movie. C horror.

[BottleBob]

On Thursday, November 14, 2013 9:38:25 PM UTC-8, jon_banquer wrote:
> It's important to remember that with someone as talented as Bottlebob
> there is always something cooking.

Jon:

Nice double entendre there, with the use of the word "cooking". But any pharmaceutical cooking was done in a former life.

Although I have recently been interested in retaining brain plasticity. And to that end have been playing with a Rubik's cube for some weeks. I've narrowed it down to having to memorize just 6 algorithms. Which enables the cube to be routinely solved in ~4 minutes. Not contest winning time, but adequate for the average aging baby boomer.


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BottleBob
http://home.earthlink.net/~bottlbob

#57
Experience sustains
Our thinking brains
Life's pain
Is wisdom's gain

[PrecisionmachinisT]

"BottleBob" <bott...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

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> (I) have been playing with a Rubik's cube for some weeks.

> I've narrowed it down to having to memorize just 6 > algorithms.
> Which enables the cube to be routinely solved in ~4 minutes.

The ability to solve the same exact problem over and over again does not
seem a particularily valuable skill set to me regardless of the actual time
it takes but hey if it helps pass the time for you then so be it.

Thinking you ought to take a road trip...

[BottleBob]

On Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:44:04 PM UTC-8, PrecisionmachinisT wrote:
> "BottleBob" <bott...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>

> > (I) have been playing with a Rubik's cube for some weeks.
> > I've narrowed it down to having to memorize just 6 > algorithms.
> > Which enables the cube to be routinely solved in ~4 minutes.
>
> The ability to solve the same exact problem over and over again does not
> seem a particularily valuable skill set to me regardless of the actual time
> it takes but hey if it helps pass the time for you then so be it.

PM:

Correctomundo. I've alternated different algorithms to cut the solving time down. But now that it's pretty much standardized, it's lost it's appeal. I haven't even touched a Rubik's in like 3 days.

> Thinking you ought to take a road trip...

To the land of ice & snow??? I wonder what tire chains would do to fiberglass. :(

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http://home.earthlink.net/~bottlbob

#12
Do we perceive what really exists
Or merely project our own inner myths
Is reality seen in the truth of vision
Or just the walls of your internal prison

[PCS]

On Friday, November 15, 2013 1:14:36 AM UTC-5, BottleBob wrote:

> Although I have recently been interested in retaining brain plasticity. And to that end have been playing with a Rubik's cube for some weeks. I've narrowed it down to having to memorize just 6 algorithms. Which enables the cube to be routinely solved in ~4 minutes. Not contest winning time, but adequate for the average aging baby boomer.
>

Say BB,

Still using that chin-up bar from Kris?

Do you know what the heck ever happened to him?

--
PaulS

[BottleBob]

On Friday, November 15, 2013 5:50:05 AM UTC-8, PCS wrote:
>
> Say BB,
>
> Still using that chin-up bar from Kris?

Paul:

Why, yes I am. Got up to 44 Dips in one set yesterday with the Dip bar attachment. Plus cranked out 480 V's (sort of arm assisted deep knee bends off the bar), for cardio. Managed 20 Chinups on the first set the day before. So his Holobarre is getting plenty of use over here. :)

> Do you know what the heck ever happened to him?

We had a little spat a couple of months ago, and shortly thereafter he seems to have withdrawn from all public contact.


--
BottleBob
http://home.earthlink.net/~bottlbob

#32
Bogus opinions abound
Some even astound
Other's appear unsound
Our own seem profound

[Tom Gardner]

On 11/14/2013 4:09 PM, BottleBob wrote:
> All:
>
> I apologize if this has been posted before, or is common knowledge. But I just got this forward and thought I'd pass it along. I'm sure someone will actually try this and let us know if it really works as advertised.
>
>
>

Boy, you must have great eyes!

[jon_banquer]

On Friday, November 15, 2013 7:20:38 AM UTC-8, BottleBob wrote:

"We had a little spat a couple of months ago, and shortly thereafter he seems to have withdrawn from all public contact."

You feeling guilty, Heisenberg?

I had a "little spat" with him for like a decade and it didn't effect him. You have a little spat and with him and now he's gone?

Perhaps it's time to stop using the control tactics you're so well known for. You know, like the one's you tried to use on Pinkman. :>)

[BottleBob]

Tom:

I don't understand your reference, could you elaborate please?

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http://home.earthlink.net/~bottlbob

#9
The older you get
The more you suspect
Ideas long set
Are just all wet

[BottleBob]

On Friday, November 15, 2013 9:33:40 AM UTC-8, jon_banquer wrote:
> On Friday, November 15, 2013 7:20:38 AM UTC-8, BottleBob wrote:
>
>
> "We had a little spat a couple of months ago, and shortly thereafter he
> seems to have withdrawn from all public contact."
>
> You feeling guilty, Heisenberg?

Jon:

Possibly, I'm not sure what I'm feeling... other than I miss chatting with him. We had been discussing everything under the sun in E-mail for like YEARS.

> I had a "little spat" with him for like a decade and it didn't effect
> him. You have a little spat and with him and now he's gone?

I'm not positive now what this last dustup was about. It may even have been totally unrelated to his decision to stop posting to newsgroups.

> Perhaps it's time to stop using the control tactics you're so well known
> for. You know, like the one's you tried to use on Pinkman. :>)

You allude to the use of "control tactics"... I'm not sure what you mean. Is outlining an alternate viewpoint using control tactics?

[jon_banquer]

On Friday, November 15, 2013 10:52:52 AM UTC-8, BottleBob wrote:

"Possibly, I'm not sure what I'm feeling... other than I miss chatting with him. We had been discussing everything under the sun in E-mail for like YEARS."

Why don't you pick up the phone and call him? If you don't make the effort that's on you and shows you can't handle rejection. Are you too afraid to tell him how much you miss him and how much you need the communication with him?

Don't be such a fucking pussy, Walter... I feel like Mike Ehrmantraut talking to you. :>)For me that show was never about crystal blue persuasion. You struggle so hard with that and I get sick pleasure out of knowing how much you do.

If Kris rejects your offering, that's on him. At that point you should be able to allow yourself to take comfort from knowing that you made the offer and he rejected your offer which says more about him than it does about you. You can be at peace with your ugly, balding, obstinate, less than open but in good physical shape, self. :>)

"I'm not positive now what this last dustup was about. It may even have been totally unrelated to his decision to stop posting to newsgroups."

My guess is that it's totally unrelated but it's certainly my preference to try and blame you and make you feel guilty for as long as possible. :P

"Is outlining an alternate viewpoint using control tactics?"

A better alternative to Gibbscam is Featurecam. Process based programming, like Gibbscam is, isn't as fast a Feature based programming is and never will be. Have you ever been open to trying alternatives like Featurcam... fuck no. Have you ever been open to CAM automation... fuck no. You claimed it was easier to enter tool info, etc. every fucking time you created a part program. It isn't and neither is all the repetitive shit you have to do in Process based CAM programming. You could never wrap your head around their being something very wrong with having to do repetitive and monotonous bullshit in CADCAM or that it equals really bad CADCAM program design.

There is a big price to pay for just accepting and making the best of what you have... your brain dies, you lose the ability to see what the big picture should be and your creativity suffers. You're not alone. If fact you're in very good company.

[BottleBob]

On Friday, November 15, 2013 11:52:12 AM UTC-8, jon_banquer wrote:

> Why don't you pick up the phone and call him? If you don't make the
> effort that's on you and shows you can't handle rejection. Are you too
> afraid to tell him how much you miss him and how much you need the
> communication with him?

Jon:

OK, I took your advice and just now E-mailed him an apology, and told him how I feel.

>
> "I'm not positive now what this last dustup was about. It may even have
> been totally unrelated to his decision to stop posting to newsgroups."
>
> My guess is that it's totally unrelated but it's certainly my preference
> to try and blame you and make you feel guilty for as long as possible. :P

Well, I hope I've at least shortened the timeframe of THAT. :)

I'll respond to the CAD/CAM issues in another post. I'm in the middle of my Pushups sets. LOL

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http://home.earthlink.net/~bottlbob

#50
What is truth?
Are we the sleuth
To trap this prey
Or fooling ourselves
With our naiveté

[jon_banquer]

On Friday, November 15, 2013 12:53:17 PM UTC-8, BottleBob wrote:

"OK, I took your advice and just now E-mailed him an apology, and told him how I feel."

I've read his posts for years. He has a kind heart, he cares and he forgives just about anyone with time. Perhaps after years and years you finally stated to annoy him. You have that effect on me after only a few emails or a few minutes on the phone.

"I'm in the middle of my Pushups sets. LOL "

Don't forget the Richard Simmons sweating to the oldies workout. Remember you have old fucks with no life you need to show who is boss to at the next geriatric Olympics.

[Tom Gardner]

On 11/15/2013 1:26 PM, BottleBob wrote:
> On Friday, November 15, 2013 8:45:19 AM UTC-8, Tom Gardner wrote:
>> On 11/14/2013 4:09 PM, BottleBob wrote:
>>
>> > All:
>> >
>> > I apologize if this has been posted before, or is common knowledge.
>> But I just got this forward and thought I'd pass it along. I'm sure
>> someone will actually try this and let us know if it really works as
>> advertised.
>>
>> Boy, you must have great eyes!
>
> Tom:
>
> I don't understand your reference, could you elaborate please?
>
>

To do all that tiny,tiny stuff, you must see good!

[Gunner Asch]

On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 13:12:01 -0800 (PST), BottleBob
<bott...@earthlink.net> wrote:

Yes, it does work. Asphalt works quicker btw. Or an old rough
sidewalk

Its a good $20 bet winner btw.

Gunner

--
Liberals want everyone to think like them.
Conservatives want everyone to think.

[Gunner Asch]

Thats standard equpment for any survivalist, plus a couple in the
glove box, one in the wallet, one sewed to the inside of ones belt etc
etc

Sharpen the corner into a screw driver shape..it will get some screws
tight/loose. Sharpen the other corner into a blade..it will skin a
rabbit. Messy...but it works

Also micro multitools that hang nicely on ones keychain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiICjsi4G7U

I carry the Leatherman Micra and have standardized on them on all the
keychains here on the homestead. They simply work Good. Even the
tweezers.

http://www.leatherman.com/20.html

[Jim Wilkins]

"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:v5me89h42j1vp9ojt...@4ax.com...

>
> Sharpen the corner into a screw driver shape..it will get some
> screws
> tight/loose. Sharpen the other corner into a blade..it will skin a
> rabbit. Messy...but it works
>

> Gunner

I've carried a $5 copy of the Swiss Army Knife for decades:
http://swiss-army-military-knife.all-about-switzerland.info/swissarmyknives/swiss-army-knife-military-edition_1099rs.jpg
The small screwdriver on the tip of the can opener works on #2
Phillips if they aren't too tight. The tapered point is a drill bit
that makes starting holes for wood screws. Sulphuric acid doesn't
attack the stainless steel flat blade after it pops the vent caps off
a battery.

The can opener may be slower than the video showed but the knife is
easier to carry than a chunk of concrete.
jsw

[David R. Birch]

On 11/16/2013 5:35 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:

>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH2NahLjx-Y#t=166
>
> Yes, it does work. Asphalt works quicker btw. Or an old rough
> sidewalk
>
> Its a good $20 bet winner btw.
>
> Gunner

There seems to be a cut in the video from where the concrete rubbing
starts to where he's ready to squeeze the can. How long would it take
for a small can like he shows?

I'm sure it would take quite a while for that ammo can! If I were using
a lot of the Russian spam can ammo in the field, I think I'd carry an
extra key.

David

[PCS]

On Friday, November 15, 2013 10:20:38 AM UTC-5, BottleBob wrote:
> On Friday, November 15, 2013 5:50:05 AM UTC-8, PCS wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Say BB,
>
> >
>
> > Still using that chin-up bar from Kris?
>
>
>
> Paul:
>
>
>
> Why, yes I am. Got up to 44 Dips in one set yesterday with the Dip bar attachment. Plus cranked out 480 V's (sort of arm assisted deep knee bends off the bar), for cardio. Managed 20 Chinups on the first set the day before. So his Holobarre is getting plenty of use over here. :)
>
>
>
>
>
> > Do you know what the heck ever happened to him?
>
>
>
> We had a little spat a couple of months ago, and shortly thereafter he seems to have withdrawn from all public contact.
>
>

Thanks for the reply Bob.

Not just all idle curiosity on my part.

I too used to correspond with him on a semi-regular basis.
That was until he went over the edge, IMO, with some pretty insane jihads on AMC.

I stopped communicating in disgust at what seemed to be a huge waste of time and talent.

He did earn some renewed respect when he seemed to be getting his act together and making a real go at his "folly". That was last March when he announced he'd bought that big-assed Haas router.

I was however genuinely worried after he shoehorned that GR510 into his basement. I didn't think he knew how far in over his head he was getting with that. At the time I thought he must be taking his business advice from BottleBob ;-).

So anyway, here's hoping he's just busy in his basement, sloshing about in his bunny slippers, and having a ball.

Somehow though I doubt it.
He never had that kind of luck.

--
PaulS

[Jim Wilkins]

"David R. Birch" <dbi...@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
news:l67r3...@news4.newsguy.com...

> On 11/16/2013 5:35 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>
> There seems to be a cut in the video from where the concrete rubbing
> starts to where he's ready to squeeze the can. How long would it
> take for a small can like he shows?
>

> David

You could have tried this yourself, you know.

After about a minute and a half the sound pitch changed as the can
lost vacuum (and sucked in grit). Once the first spot has rubbed
through the lid can be pried off, less dramatically and messily than
squeezing it.

The rubbing scars and stains the concrete with food liquid, so
practice this on an old spare sun-sterilized cement block as I did
instead of your front steps.

I rinsed off the Hormel ham inside and am boiling it thoroughly to
kill any Tetanus germs etc.

Yes it works, but if I was that desperate I'd open cans the right way
with a bayonet.

jsw

[RogerN]

"BottleBob" wrote in message

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>All:
>
> I apologize if this has been posted before, or is common knowledge.
> But I just got this forward and thought I'd pass it along. I'm sure
> someone will actually try this and let us know if it really works as
> advertised.
>--
>BottleBob
>http://home.earthlink.net/~bottlbob

Since can openers aren't cheap, we bought a tractor and tie a rope with a
loop on the end. When it's time to cook, we take the canned goods outside,
put them in the rope loop, the wife stands on the can while I drive the
tractor. With the force and weight, it doesn't take long to open the can.

Just kidding!

RogerN

[Larry Jaques]

On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 03:48:50 -0800, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>

wrote:

>On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 18:59:20 -0800, Larry Jaques
><lja...@invalid.diversifycomm.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 16:44:48 -0800, "azotic" <H.B...@network.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"BottleBob" <bott...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>news:fae453d1-09b0-4374...@googlegroups.com...
>>>> All:
>>>>
>>>> I apologize if this has been posted before, or is common knowledge.
>>>> But I just got this forward and thought I'd pass it along. I'm sure
>>>> someone will actually try this and let us know if it really works as
>>>> advertised.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> BottleBob
>>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~bottlbob
>>>
>>>
>>>C.H.U.D.S. Don't need no stinken can opener.
>>
>>'Splain your acronym, please, Tom.
>>
>>And I have a P-51 on my keychain, JIC. I like it better than the tiny
>>P-38 they used in WWII, y'know, for my large and manly hands.
>
>Thats standard equpment for any survivalist, plus a couple in the
>glove box, one in the wallet, one sewed to the inside of ones belt etc
>etc

I see dozens of P-38s to every P-51. If you're weakened, the larger
tool will be that much easier to use to restore your strength by
opening that can of wholesome sustenance. <burp>

>Sharpen the corner into a screw driver shape..it will get some screws
>tight/loose. Sharpen the other corner into a blade..it will skin a
>rabbit. Messy...but it works
>
>Also micro multitools that hang nicely on ones keychain
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiICjsi4G7U

My poor legs are already abused from the crap I carry in my pockets.
No more tools, please!

>I carry the Leatherman Micra and have standardized on them on all the
>keychains here on the homestead. They simply work Good. Even the
>tweezers.
>
>http://www.leatherman.com/20.html

I keep my (almost unused) Leatherman in the BOB nowadays. But the tool
I just replaced (wore out my last one after only 30+ years) is a pair
of 6" needle nosed ViseGrips. I have one pair in the truck and one in
my BOB, and I don't think I've ever owned a more versatile tool. Also
in my BOB is a Coleman micro, but I doubt I could rely on it as much.

[Larry Jaques]

On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 07:33:56 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
<murat...@gmail.com> wrote:

>"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:v5me89h42j1vp9ojt...@4ax.com...
>>
>> Sharpen the corner into a screw driver shape..it will get some
>> screws
>> tight/loose. Sharpen the other corner into a blade..it will skin a
>> rabbit. Messy...but it works
>>
>> Gunner
>
>I've carried a $5 copy of the Swiss Army Knife for decades:
>http://swiss-army-military-knife.all-about-switzerland.info/swissarmyknives/swiss-army-knife-military-edition_1099rs.jpg

I've kept a little Swiss knife in my pocket for several decades. I
think I'm on my 4th one now, with 3 others lost. The most bang for the
buck comes in a small package. Knife, screwdriver, scissors, nail
file, toothpick, and tweezers. Victorinox Classic SD. Smaller than my
little finger, yet strong enough to gut someone--in a self-defense
role.

http://tinyurl.com/mgbgwx3
$11.97 Amazon Prime right now. These are excellent little knives!

I never liked the heavy, bulky, hard-to-use Swiss Army Knives, never
having found any tool on one to be excellent. At best, the tools were
always just usable.

>The small screwdriver on the tip of the can opener works on #2
>Phillips if they aren't too tight. The tapered point is a drill bit
>that makes starting holes for wood screws. Sulphuric acid doesn't
>attack the stainless steel flat blade after it pops the vent caps off
>a battery.

I suppose that could always be a consideration.

>The can opener may be slower than the video showed but the knife is
>easier to carry than a chunk of concrete.

Much! <g>

Question: Does anyone at all ever use a bottle opener nowadays? I
haven't needed one in at least 3 decades now. Why are they always in
the marketing people's minds, with everything under the sun being made
with a _twist-off_ cap? The only thing I can find online now which
requires one is the self-crimped beer bottle for micro brewers, and
I've been away from alcohol for 28 years now.

[Gunner Asch]

On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 10:19:18 -0800, Larry Jaques

Indeed. And its simply easier for the old farts like me to use.

>
>
>>Sharpen the corner into a screw driver shape..it will get some screws
>>tight/loose. Sharpen the other corner into a blade..it will skin a
>>rabbit. Messy...but it works
>>
>>Also micro multitools that hang nicely on ones keychain
>>
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiICjsi4G7U
>
>My poor legs are already abused from the crap I carry in my pockets.
>No more tools, please!

? What..you carry Stuff in your pockets? Whatever for?? Other than
your wallet and a couple pocket knives and maybe a lighter..everything
else should go in pouches. It simply looks like an extra cell phone
case if done right.

>
>
>>I carry the Leatherman Micra and have standardized on them on all the
>>keychains here on the homestead. They simply work Good. Even the
>>tweezers.
>>
>>http://www.leatherman.com/20.html
>
>I keep my (almost unused) Leatherman in the BOB nowadays. But the tool
>I just replaced (wore out my last one after only 30+ years) is a pair
>of 6" needle nosed ViseGrips. I have one pair in the truck and one in
>my BOB, and I don't think I've ever owned a more versatile tool. Also
>in my BOB is a Coleman micro, but I doubt I could rely on it as much.

Anything with a Coleman lable on it...with the possible exception of
lanterns....is suspect...very suspect.

[Larry Jaques]

On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 03:35:01 -0800, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 13:12:01 -0800 (PST), BottleBob
><bott...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>On Thursday, November 14, 2013 1:09:49 PM UTC-8, BottleBob wrote:
>>> All:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I apologize if this has been posted before, or is common knowledge. But I just got this forward and thought I'd pass it along. I'm sure someone will actually try this and let us know if it really works as advertised.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> BottleBob
>>>
>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~bottlbob
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> #83
>>>
>>> Theoretical speculations
>>>
>>> Biased interpretations
>>>
>>> Bogus evaluations
>>>
>>> Are all eliminated by experimentation
>>
>>Opps Sorry. It would help if I actually sent the forward, eh?
>>
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH2NahLjx-Y#t=166
>
>Yes, it does work. Asphalt works quicker btw. Or an old rough
>sidewalk
>
>Its a good $20 bet winner btw.

No doubt. I'm not sure I like the thought of metal and concrete
particles in my meal, though. People and animals have likely spat and
shat on the surfaces in question, too. Yum! I believe I'll stick to
my P-51 as long as possible, saving that for truly hard times.

[Gunner Asch]

If you notice in the video..they werent even leaking juice. The whole
idea is to shear away the top of the can...and then when its
upright..to fatigue the tiny remaining joint and break it. So there
wont be any dirt etc etc in the can unless you push it and grind off
the top of the can and it spluges onto the concrete.

Damn..you guys have never been hungry before have you? There have been
times in my life when eating out of a dumpster behind a restaurant was
heaven.

If I ever get to that point again..Ill not blink an eye when dumpster
diving.

[Jim Wilkins]

"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:sfqf89tn1g5cjk62h...@4ax.com...

>
> If you notice in the video..they werent even leaking juice. The
> whole
> idea is to shear away the top of the can...and then when its
> upright..to fatigue the tiny remaining joint and break it. So there
> wont be any dirt etc etc in the can unless you push it and grind off
> the top of the can and it spluges onto the concrete.
>

Having just opened a can on a cement block myself I'd like you to test
your idea personally and tell us if you could control the operation
that closely.
jsw

[pyotr filipivich]

Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> on Sat, 16 Nov 2013 13:58:58 -0800
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

>
>Damn..you guys have never been hungry before have you? There have been
>times in my life when eating out of a dumpster behind a restaurant was
>heaven.
>
>If I ever get to that point again..Ill not blink an eye when dumpster
>diving.

That which does not kill you, may make you wish you could die. B-)

tschus
pyotr
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[jon_banquer]

His rants were one of the few things that made a dying AMC tolerable. Many of them were classics and very enjoyable to read. It's exactly what this newsgroup needs now.

"I stopped communicating in disgust at what seemed to be a huge waste of time and talent."

In other words, you never understood Kris and you wanted to change him. You and Heisenberg have a lot in common with this trying to change someone approach. With age, Heisenberg seems to be mellowing a little and getting a fucking clue. Age, loneliness and sickness do that to a person.

"He did earn some renewed respect when he seemed to be getting his act together and making a real go at his "folly". That was last March when he announced he'd bought that big-assed Haas router."

Only an idiot would claim spending money on equipment is a valid reason for someone to gain respect. The "respect" it gains is from some phony asshole with no clues about life... that would be you, bitch. I hope all Bottlebob's fans aren't dumb motherfuckers like you are, Paul. Hopefully I'm in your kill file because I don't want morons like you reading what I have to say. I realize I'm being subtle here but I hope you catch my drift.

[Gunner Asch]

I just did with a can of corn for the old lady for dinner.

Took me about 2 minutes of squeezing to break the last of the seal

[Larry Jaques]

On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 10:43:20 -0800, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>

Yeah, a small pouch like that could work for EDC survival gear,
couldn't it? I wonder how much stuff I can get in one of my ToolyRoo
pouches... Then again, I was looking at EMT pouches on eBay this
morning, AAMOF. A little molle snapper might work well.

I'm taking up knitting and crochet this winter, BTW. Some nice
stainless circular knitting needles got here yesterday. ($4.69 for 11
sizes, delivered) And I saw a lady show me how to crochet 100' of
paracord into a flat mat on a YouTube vid this morning. Anyway, I
decided I should learn how to darn my wool socks -before- the SHTF.

>>>I carry the Leatherman Micra and have standardized on them on all the
>>>keychains here on the homestead. They simply work Good. Even the
>>>tweezers.
>>>
>>>http://www.leatherman.com/20.html
>>
>>I keep my (almost unused) Leatherman in the BOB nowadays. But the tool
>>I just replaced (wore out my last one after only 30+ years) is a pair
>>of 6" needle nosed ViseGrips. I have one pair in the truck and one in
>>my BOB, and I don't think I've ever owned a more versatile tool. Also
>>in my BOB is a Coleman micro, but I doubt I could rely on it as much.
>
>Anything with a Coleman lable on it...with the possible exception of
>lanterns....is suspect...very suspect.

Yeah, but IIRC, it was free with some order or something.

When I was opening a can of paint yesterday morning, I got to thinking
about the opener as an improvised weapon. The ring around your little
finger might give you a lot more OOMPH! when hitting someone, and the
curved hook would rip a face or arm up pretty well. Anything to put
your adversary at a disadvantage. Having one in your back pocket
probably wouldn't be considered to be a weapon by local LEOs, either.

[Larry Jaques]

On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 13:58:58 -0800, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>

I've never been both unarmed and hungry at the same time, I can tell
you that. <g> Hey, I'd rather toss an old piece of scrap metal into
the fire to use as a can opener if I didn't have a knife, but it's not
often that people like us are without knives. I'd stab that bugger of
a can to open it, no problem.

>times in my life when eating out of a dumpster behind a restaurant was
>heaven.

Ouch! Luckily, I've never been that far down, even when I was an
alcoholic. I continued working. Or, I should say, I continued
drinking when I worked. I had a higher "bottom" than many people I
knew.

>If I ever get to that point again..Ill not blink an eye when dumpster
>diving.

Nor would I, 'cept to shed tears for me.

[David R. Birch]

On 11/16/2013 10:50 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
> "David R. Birch" <dbi...@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:l67r3...@news4.newsguy.com...
>> On 11/16/2013 5:35 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>
>> There seems to be a cut in the video from where the concrete rubbing
>> starts to where he's ready to squeeze the can. How long would it
>> take for a small can like he shows?
>>
>> David
>
> You could have tried this yourself, you know.

Yup, if I had nothing else to do today, but I had lots to do and not all
of it done yet. Plus my best available flat concrete is currently being
rained on.

>
> After about a minute and a half the sound pitch changed as the can
> lost vacuum (and sucked in grit). Once the first spot has rubbed
> through the lid can be pried off, less dramatically and messily than
> squeezing it.
>
> The rubbing scars and stains the concrete with food liquid, so
> practice this on an old spare sun-sterilized cement block as I did
> instead of your front steps.
>
> I rinsed off the Hormel ham inside and am boiling it thoroughly to
> kill any Tetanus germs etc.
>
> Yes it works, but if I was that desperate I'd open cans the right way
> with a bayonet.

I'm wondering where I'd find a big enough piece of concrete to open the
ammo spam can while under fire...

David

[DoN. Nichols]

On 2013-11-16, Larry Jaques <lja...@invalid.diversifycomm.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 07:33:56 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
><murat...@gmail.com> wrote:

[ ... ]

> I never liked the heavy, bulky, hard-to-use Swiss Army Knives, never
> having found any tool on one to be excellent. At best, the tools were
> always just usable.

I like the Gerber needle-nose pliers -- file, straight edged and
scalloped knife blades, several screwdriver sizes, bottle opener and
other things. One lives on my belt in a Velcro-fastened pouch with
additional screwdriver blades and an adaptor.

[ ... ]

> Question: Does anyone at all ever use a bottle opener nowadays? I
> haven't needed one in at least 3 decades now. Why are they always in
> the marketing people's minds, with everything under the sun being made
> with a _twist-off_ cap? The only thing I can find online now which
> requires one is the self-crimped beer bottle for micro brewers, and
> I've been away from alcohol for 28 years now.

If you find a place which carries the Mexican Coke bottles (real
cane sugar, not HFCS), they still have the crimped-on caps -- no
twist-off. I don't drink as much Coke as I used to -- but occasionally
I *need* one to quickly replenish my blood sugar.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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[Gunner Asch]

On 17 Nov 2013 03:24:16 GMT, "DoN. Nichols" <BPdnic...@d-and-d.com>
wrote:

>On 2013-11-16, Larry Jaques <lja...@invalid.diversifycomm.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 07:33:56 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
>><murat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> [ ... ]
>
>> I never liked the heavy, bulky, hard-to-use Swiss Army Knives, never
>> having found any tool on one to be excellent. At best, the tools were
>> always just usable.
>
> I like the Gerber needle-nose pliers -- file, straight edged and
>scalloped knife blades, several screwdriver sizes, bottle opener and
>other things. One lives on my belt in a Velcro-fastened pouch with
>additional screwdriver blades and an adaptor.

I have the Gerber Plyer Nose pliers. Same multitool, just plyers
rather than needle nose. Works great for me.

>
> [ ... ]
>
>> Question: Does anyone at all ever use a bottle opener nowadays? I
>> haven't needed one in at least 3 decades now. Why are they always in
>> the marketing people's minds, with everything under the sun being made
>> with a _twist-off_ cap? The only thing I can find online now which
>> requires one is the self-crimped beer bottle for micro brewers, and
>> I've been away from alcohol for 28 years now.
>
> If you find a place which carries the Mexican Coke bottles (real
>cane sugar, not HFCS), they still have the crimped-on caps -- no
>twist-off. I don't drink as much Coke as I used to -- but occasionally
>I *need* one to quickly replenish my blood sugar.
>
> Enjoy,
> DoN.

Here in California..Mexican Cokes etc etc are available at half the
grocery stores. Unfortunately..even American products are 50% higher
in those Mexican leaning stores, than at regular grocery stores.

[John B.]

On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 18:39:19 -0800, Larry Jaques

If you are planning on darning wool socks you'll need a "darning egg".

>
>>>>I carry the Leatherman Micra and have standardized on them on all the
>>>>keychains here on the homestead. They simply work Good. Even the
>>>>tweezers.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.leatherman.com/20.html
>>>
>>>I keep my (almost unused) Leatherman in the BOB nowadays. But the tool
>>>I just replaced (wore out my last one after only 30+ years) is a pair
>>>of 6" needle nosed ViseGrips. I have one pair in the truck and one in
>>>my BOB, and I don't think I've ever owned a more versatile tool. Also
>>>in my BOB is a Coleman micro, but I doubt I could rely on it as much.
>>
>>Anything with a Coleman lable on it...with the possible exception of
>>lanterns....is suspect...very suspect.
>
>Yeah, but IIRC, it was free with some order or something.
>
>When I was opening a can of paint yesterday morning, I got to thinking
>about the opener as an improvised weapon. The ring around your little
>finger might give you a lot more OOMPH! when hitting someone, and the
>curved hook would rip a face or arm up pretty well. Anything to put
>your adversary at a disadvantage. Having one in your back pocket
>probably wouldn't be considered to be a weapon by local LEOs, either.
--

Cheers,

John B.

[Leon Fisk]

On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 23:13:51 -0800 (PST)
BottleBob <bott...@earthlink.net> wrote:

<snip>
>PM:
>
>Correctomundo. I've alternated different algorithms to cut the solving time down. But now that it's pretty much standardized, it's lost it's appeal. I haven't even touched a Rubik's in like 3 days.

Do you have a cube similar to this Chex Cereal version?

http://tinypic.com/r/2e1gojo/5

or one with a different solid color for each side?

If you've been working with a solid color version try using some
stickers or a marker to make each square sensitive to orientation (ie
you can tell if it is up or down...) like this Chex version. Then try
solving it again ;-)

Similar to you I use to be pretty good at solving the solid color
version ~35 years ago when they were all the rage. Had to cheat,
use a computer program to completely put the Chex version back in
order...

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[Michael A. Terrell]

azotic wrote:
>
> It means Canibalistic Humanoid Underground Dweller.


AKA: Liberal


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