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Steve B

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Apr 14, 2010, 11:20:49 AM4/14/10
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I see lots of ads on TV for cordless drills. In almost every case, they are
chucked up to a simple #2 Phillips bit. Why is that? Don't they know about
all the quick change extensions? I have used just a bit in a pinch, but
many times, the chuck runs into the wood or something else. Plus there is
no slider to hold the screws until they get started. Do you use an
extension or not? I almost always do.

Steve


Pete C.

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Apr 14, 2010, 12:04:07 PM4/14/10
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I use an impact driver which has a 1/4" hex quick change chuck. If I
need a long reach I typically use a long bit.

Karl Townsend

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Apr 14, 2010, 12:06:26 PM4/14/10
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"Steve B" <desertt...@dishynail.net> wrote in message
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i normally use a slider. Didn't two days ago. Pushed hard and drill slipped
off and drive a hole in my thumb. Blood leaks all over when you do that.

Karl


Jim Wilkins

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Apr 14, 2010, 12:30:38 PM4/14/10
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I have a couple of different types of quick couplers but rarely use
them because they aren't completely reliable and can drop the bit into
the bushes below the ladder, and I don't yet have a set of GOOD drill
bits with grooved hex shanks. I probably drill a lot more home-made
steel and stainless fittings than the average hardware store customer.
Industrial-quality bits are as easy to lose in the leaves as cheap
ones.

My Makita's most recent job was holes for 1/2" lag screws 200' from
the nearest electric outlet.

jsw

Larry Jaques

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Apr 14, 2010, 1:47:03 PM4/14/10
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On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 11:04:07 -0500, the infamous "Pete C."
<aux3....@snet.net> scrawled the following:

Ditto here, either a long bit or hex extension. www.Rockler.com has
2, 3, and 6" square bits for a couple bucks apiece. I buy from them
when they have their free shipping sales.
http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=299&filter=square%20drive%20bit
The 2" is my most used, but in tight spaces, the 6" works wonders.

I also bought a 1/4" hex drive 3/8" keyed drill chuck for use with the
impact. The Impactor ate my $1.50 HF keyless chuck in about 30
seconds.

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Larry Jaques

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Apr 14, 2010, 1:49:49 PM4/14/10
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On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 11:06:26 -0500, the infamous "Karl Townsend"
<karltown...@embarqmail.com> scrawled the following:

"I have absolutely no idea of what you're talking about, Karl" as he
hid his scarred hand.

The trick is to whap the back of the driver to sink the screw tip,
then start turning it. You don't need to hold the screw after that so
it's much safer.

P.S: Phillips tips make good skin drills, don't they?

Larry Jaques

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Apr 14, 2010, 1:53:31 PM4/14/10
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On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:30:38 -0700 (PDT), the infamous Jim Wilkins
<kb1...@gmail.com> scrawled the following:

Put down a tarp before you put up the ladder, Jim. And/or carry a
magnet on a stick which will help you find lost hardware and bits.
I keep a welding triangle in the truck with a coat hanger tied to it.


>My Makita's most recent job was holes for 1/2" lag screws 200' from
>the nearest electric outlet.

Yeah, cordless drivers are an absolute necessity in most construction
areas. But I think he meant "hex extension bit holders" there, big
fella. ;)

Pete C.

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Apr 14, 2010, 2:35:06 PM4/14/10
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Yes, just like in the socket wrench world there are separate impact
rated extensions, the ordinary hex extensions that work fine on
drill-drivers are destroyed by impact drivers.

Larry Jaques

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Apr 14, 2010, 3:22:34 PM4/14/10
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On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:35:06 -0500, the infamous "Pete C."
<aux3....@snet.net> scrawled the following:

I'm on my 2rd 1/4hex x 1/4square adaptor, but the newest one is U.S.
made and is lasting better. I had a couple good HF adaptors (plus the
first bad one) but I lost them. The only 1/4hex x 3/8square adaptor
I've tried (from HF, used for driving 6"-8" x 1/2" lags into beams)
has held up well, too.

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Mark Rand

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Apr 14, 2010, 4:18:16 PM4/14/10
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On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 10:49:49 -0700, Larry Jaques <lja...@diversify.invalid>
wrote:


Pozidriv and Robertson screws don't tend to fall off their respective bits :-)


Mark Rand
RTFM

RAMł

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Apr 14, 2010, 4:44:17 PM4/14/10
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"Steve B" <desertt...@dishynail.net> wrote in
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They show what they're selling. <grin>

If they showed other "goodies" then their customers would expect to see
them in the box when it arrives and, when the "goodies" were found to be
missing, demand a full refund + legal expenses.

After all, Steve, we're talking about a customer base that truly believes
that you can get a top-of-the-line battery-powered industrial tool for
$19.95 + S&H! ("Order in the next 10 minutes and we'll send you a second
tool absolutely FREE!" sez the 3:00 AM Infomercial.)

Larry Jaques

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Apr 14, 2010, 9:56:50 PM4/14/10
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On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:01:54 -0700, the infamous "Artemus"
<bo...@invalid.org> scrawled the following:

>
>"Steve B" <desertt...@dishynail.net> wrote in message
>news:b33h97-...@news.infowest.com...

>Because TV ads are generally created/approved by liberal arts graduates who
>can only think in terms of what "looks good" to them. The douchebags who
>did the ad you're referring to probably don't know which end of a screwdriver
>is the handle much less anything about quick change adapters.

Remember the Crapsman ad for their new vicegrip product? they showed
some absolute bozo shearing metal off the nut on a bicycle axle with
the pliers on backwards. It only showed a few times before it was
removed, but I was on the floor laughing from it every time I saw it,
thinking how well it fit the current crap Searz is foisting on the
public.

I haven't had to watch anything the lib arts grads put together for 3
years now, and I'm very happy with my choice to stop watching
broadcast TV.

Larry Jaques

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Apr 14, 2010, 9:58:31 PM4/14/10
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On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 21:18:16 +0100, the infamous Mark Rand
<ra...@internettie.co.uk> scrawled the following:

True, but getting a screw started often can be quite tough.

Michael A. Terrell

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Apr 14, 2010, 11:37:25 PM4/14/10
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Larry Jaques wrote:
>
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:01:54 -0700, the infamous "Artemus"
> <bo...@invalid.org> scrawled the following:
>
> >
> >"Steve B" <desertt...@dishynail.net> wrote in message
> >news:b33h97-...@news.infowest.com...
> >> I see lots of ads on TV for cordless drills. In almost every case, they are
> >> chucked up to a simple #2 Phillips bit. Why is that? Don't they know about
> >> all the quick change extensions? I have used just a bit in a pinch, but
> >> many times, the chuck runs into the wood or something else. Plus there is
> >> no slider to hold the screws until they get started. Do you use an
> >> extension or not? I almost always do.
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >
> >Because TV ads are generally created/approved by liberal arts graduates who
> >can only think in terms of what "looks good" to them. The douchebags who
> >did the ad you're referring to probably don't know which end of a screwdriver
> >is the handle much less anything about quick change adapters.
>
> Remember the Crapsman ad for their new vicegrip product? they showed
> some absolute bozo shearing metal off the nut on a bicycle axle with
> the pliers on backwards. It only showed a few times before it was
> removed, but I was on the floor laughing from it every time I saw it,
> thinking how well it fit the current crap Searz is foisting on the
> public.


Didn't you hear? You can go to Kmart to be ripped off with Crapsman.


--
Lead free solder is Belgium's version of 'Hold my beer and watch this!'

kfvo...@gmail.com

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Apr 15, 2010, 5:58:38 AM4/15/10
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slider extension
Karl

Robert Swinney

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Apr 15, 2010, 8:27:39 AM4/15/10
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RAM sez:
"After all, Steve, we're talking about a customer base that truly believes
that you can get a top-of-the-line battery-powered industrial tool for
$19.95 + S&H! ("Order in the next 10 minutes and we'll send you a second
tool absolutely FREE!" sez the 3:00 AM Infomercial.)"

Good observation re. the mentality of those victims of advertising who only appreciate "cheap".

Bob Swinney

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RAMł

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Apr 15, 2010, 10:16:55 AM4/15/10
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"Robert Swinney" <jud...@tx.rr.com> wrote in
news:_vSdnX2fDcphmFrW...@giganews.com:

> Good observation re. the mentality of those victims of advertising who
> only appreciate "cheap".

The late-night infomercials are far more humorous than the sitcoms...
<grin>

OTOH, I've been told that I have an "unusual" sense of humor... <GRIN>

Wes

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Apr 16, 2010, 5:02:17 PM4/16/10
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Larry Jaques <lja...@diversify.invalid> wrote:

>>Pozidriv and Robertson screws don't tend to fall off their respective bits :-)
>
>True, but getting a screw started often can be quite tough.


Yesterday, I was helping uncle put some sheets of drywall up on a ceiling and he had
Robertson drywall screws. I've never seen drywall screws with square (Robertson) drive
before.


Wes
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government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

Lewis Hartswick

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Apr 18, 2010, 10:30:52 AM4/18/10
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Wes wrote:
> Larry Jaques <lja...@diversify.invalid> wrote:
>
>>> Pozidriv and Robertson screws don't tend to fall off their respective bits :-)
>> True, but getting a screw started often can be quite tough.
>
>
> Yesterday, I was helping uncle put some sheets of drywall up on a ceiling and he had
> Robertson drywall screws. I've never seen drywall screws with square (Robertson) drive
> before.
>
>
> Wes
You obvoiusly aren't on Mc Feeleys mailing list.
Check them out for almost any sort of screw you
would ever want.
...Lew...

RAMł

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Apr 18, 2010, 2:45:40 PM4/18/10
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Lewis Hartswick <lhart...@earthlink.net> wrote in
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> Check them out for almost any sort of screw you
> would ever want.
>

Eh?

Let's keep it clean, shall we? <grin>

Wes

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Apr 18, 2010, 6:59:07 PM4/18/10
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Lewis Hartswick <lhart...@earthlink.net> wrote:


You mean these people?

http://www.mcfeelys.com/

Wes

Lewis Hartswick

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Apr 19, 2010, 9:14:56 AM4/19/10
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Wes wrote:
>
> You mean these people?
>
> http://www.mcfeelys.com/
>
> Wes

You got it.
Lew

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