OT - The Republican Party and their Politics of Spite
Too_Many_Tools
Republican Party.
Their behavior reminds me of the reports of our enemies celebrating as
the Twin Towers fell on 9/11.
There is one detail I do disagree with..
I disagree that the Republican Party "has the emotional maturity of a
bratty 13-year-old."
I think they have "the emotional maturity of a 2 year old".
TMT
New York Times
October 5, 2009
Op-Ed Columnist
The Politics of Spite
By PAUL KRUGMAN
There was what President Obama likes to call a teachable moment last
week, when the International Olympic Committee rejected Chicago’s bid
to be host of the 2016 Summer Games.
“Cheers erupted” at the headquarters of the conservative Weekly
Standard, according to a blog post by a member of the magazine’s
staff, with the headline “Obama loses! Obama loses!” Rush Limbaugh
declared himself “gleeful.” “World Rejects Obama,” gloated the Drudge
Report. And so on.
So what did we learn from this moment? For one thing, we learned that
the modern conservative movement, which dominates the modern
Republican Party, has the emotional maturity of a bratty 13-year-old.
But more important, the episode illustrated an essential truth about
the state of American politics: at this point, the guiding principle
of one of our nation’s two great political parties is spite pure and
simple. If Republicans think something might be good for the
president, they’re against it — whether or not it’s good for America.
To be sure, while celebrating America’s rebuff by the Olympic
Committee was puerile, it didn’t do any real harm. But the same
principle of spite has determined Republican positions on more serious
matters, with potentially serious consequences — in particular, in the
debate over health care reform.
Now, it’s understandable that many Republicans oppose Democratic plans
to extend insurance coverage — just as most Democrats opposed
President Bush’s attempt to convert Social Security into a sort of
giant 401(k). The two parties do, after all, have different
philosophies about the appropriate role of government.
But the tactics of the two parties have been different. In 2005, when
Democrats campaigned against Social Security privatization, their
arguments were consistent with their underlying ideology: they argued
that replacing guaranteed benefits with private accounts would expose
retirees to too much risk.
The Republican campaign against health care reform, by contrast, has
shown no such consistency. For the main G.O.P. line of attack is the
claim — based mainly on lies about death panels and so on — that
reform will undermine Medicare. And this line of attack is utterly at
odds both with the party’s traditions and with what conservatives
claim to believe.
Think about just how bizarre it is for Republicans to position
themselves as the defenders of unrestricted Medicare spending. First
of all, the modern G.O.P. considers itself the party of Ronald Reagan
— and Reagan was a fierce opponent of Medicare’s creation, warning
that it would destroy American freedom. (Honest.) In the 1990s, Newt
Gingrich tried to force drastic cuts in Medicare financing. And in
recent years, Republicans have repeatedly decried the growth in
entitlement spending — growth that is largely driven by rising health
care costs.
But the Obama administration’s plan to expand coverage relies in part
on savings from Medicare. And since the G.O.P. opposes anything that
might be good for Mr. Obama, it has become the passionate defender of
ineffective medical procedures and overpayments to insurance
companies.
How did one of our great political parties become so ruthless, so
willing to embrace scorched-earth tactics even if so doing undermines
the ability of any future administration to govern?
The key point is that ever since the Reagan years, the Republican
Party has been dominated by radicals — ideologues and/or apparatchiks
who, at a fundamental level, do not accept anyone else’s right to
govern.
Anyone surprised by the venomous, over-the-top opposition to Mr. Obama
must have forgotten the Clinton years. Remember when Rush Limbaugh
suggested that Hillary Clinton was a party to murder? When Newt
Gingrich shut down the federal government in an attempt to bully Bill
Clinton into accepting those Medicare cuts? And let’s not even talk
about the impeachment saga.
The only difference now is that the G.O.P. is in a weaker position,
having lost control not just of Congress but, to a large extent, of
the terms of debate. The public no longer buys conservative ideology
the way it used to; the old attacks on Big Government and paeans to
the magic of the marketplace have lost their resonance. Yet
conservatives retain their belief that they, and only they, should
govern.
The result has been a cynical, ends-justify-the-means approach.
Hastening the day when the rightful governing party returns to power
is all that matters, so the G.O.P. will seize any club at hand with
which to beat the current administration.
It’s an ugly picture. But it’s the truth. And it’s a truth anyone
trying to find solutions to America’s real problems has to
understand.
Fiftycal
>But more important, the episode illustrated an essential truth about
>the state of American politics: at this point, the guiding principle
>of one of our nation�s two great political parties is spite pure and
>simple. If Republicans think something might be good for the
>president, they�re against it � whether or not it�s good for America.
The Olympics would NOT have been "good for America". They would have
cost hundreds of millions in "security" alone and not done a thing for
the country. The only reason Obammy went to Copenhagen was to appease
Mayor Daley. Daley and Obammy's "advisor" Valerie Jarrett, own
hundreds of slums, mostly vacant, that could have been sold to the
"olympic village" for INCREDIBLE profits. Now Obammy will have to
find other pork to feed his good buds back in Chi-town.
edi...@netpath.net
white people living in Red Nation except for the tiny minority of
their fellow governmental, academic, and media elites here. They
can't then expect us peasants to respect them.
As far as I - and most all other whites here in Red Nation - feel, any
time that Obama or the rest of the Marie Antoinettes in the regime
lose is a victory for us.
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/08/04/where-is-your-townhall/ is
the all-states, continually-updated calendar of "town halls."
http://www.Internet-Gun-Show.com - your source for hard-to-find stuff!
Too_Many_Tools
Yeah...that's right...no money at all.
Is that why all the countries fight over who gets to host them?
You wingers are getting dumber every day.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
I have given example after example of the Red Nation killing itself
off.
Nothing has changed.
TMT
John R. Carroll
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They're consuming too much porn, too. It must be driving their reproduction
rates down. Eight of the top ten porn-consuming states voted Republican in
the last election, with Utah in the lead:
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RONSERESURPLUS
> Well done article that covers the problem we have today in the
> Republican Party.
>
> Their behavior reminds me of the reports of our enemies celebrating as
> the Twin Towers fell on 9/11.
>
As Always "Too many loons" You always look to the reps as the
demons while your man obama the Boy King can do no wrong?/ LOL The
Bloom is of the frigging rose and this clown will be sent packing i
2012, Ditto so many mook Dems and Lib Reps in the House and Senate in
2010, as in your case, you see nothing but the crap they feed ya? i'd
feel sorry for ya, if you were not such a loser? In the end, it's your
man obama thats fucking up big time, you can't admit it and your side
wil lose big time and I for one will laugh to watch it all play out!
You can spin all the maturity level jokes ya like, We all see Obama
and his Bitch of a Wife as the Real 'kids " runnig the show this guy
has about the same experience as a teenager working a a fast food JOB?
Thinks he knows it all till he burns his ass on the deep fat fryer?/
LOL
RON
Curly Surmudgeon
Wasn't "All In The Family" about a conservative, dictatorial, family man?
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Fiftycal
Do you need to explain it to you dumb ass? Obammy was fighting for
the CORRUPT INTERESTS that support HIM. Daley, Jarrett, et al. THEY
are the ones that would make the money, by RIPPING OFF THE TAXPAYERS
some more.
squirltop
Fiftycal wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:48:55 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Fools wrote:
>
> >But more important, the episode illustrated an essential truth about
> >the state of American politics: at this point, the guiding principle
> >of one of our nation�s two great political parties is spite pure and
> >simple. If Republicans think something might be good for the
> >president, they�re against it � whether or not it�s good for America.
>
> The Olympics would NOT have been "good for America". They would have
> cost hundreds of millions in "security" alone and not done a thing for
> the country.
In Denver we got the Democratic convention. Worked out for the
business the city and the state.
'Security' was darn expensive, the benefits are ongoing.
The Olympics, Bush tried to get it to the United States, didn't work,
no big deal.
squirltop
Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
> On Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:54:00 -0800, "John R. Carroll"
> <nu...@bidness.dev.nul> wrote:
>
> > Too_Many_Tools wrote:
> >> On Oct 5, 6:28 pm, "edi...@netpath.net" <edi...@netpath.net> wrote:
> >>> Bullshit. Liberal elites - Krugman included - long have dissed all
> >>> white people living in Red Nation except for the tiny minority of
> >>> their fellow governmental, academic, and media elites here. They can't
> >>> then expect us peasants to respect them. As far as I - and most all
> >>> other whites here in Red Nation - feel, any time that Obama or the
> >>> rest of the Marie Antoinettes in the regime lose is a victory for us.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/08/04/where-is-your-townhall/is the
> >>> all-states, continually-updated calendar of "town halls."
> >>>
> >>> http://www.Internet-Gun-Show.com- your source for hard-to-find stuff!
> >>
> >> I have given example after example of the Red Nation killing itself
> >> off.
> >>
> >> Nothing has changed.
> >
> > Incest is obviously deadly.
>
> Wasn't "All In The Family" about a conservative, dictatorial, family man?
>
meathead was a jew lover, and sammy davis, ehh, showed up
squirltop
John R. Carroll
> "John R. Carroll" <nu...@bidness.dev.nul> wrote in message
> news:zpedne4EtuElGlfX...@giganews.com...
>> Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>>> On Oct 5, 6:28 pm, "edi...@netpath.net" <edi...@netpath.net> wrote:
>>>> Bullshit. Liberal elites - Krugman included - long have dissed all
>>>> white people living in Red Nation except for the tiny minority of
>>>> their fellow governmental, academic, and media elites here. They
>>>> can't then expect us peasants to respect them.
>>>> As far as I - and most all other whites here in Red Nation - feel,
>>>> any time that Obama or the rest of the Marie Antoinettes in the
>>>> regime lose is a victory for us.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/08/04/where-is-your-townhall/is
>>>> the all-states, continually-updated calendar of "town halls."
>>>>
>>>> http://www.Internet-Gun-Show.com- your source for hard-to-find
>>>> stuff!
>>>
>>> I have given example after example of the Red Nation killing itself
>>> off.
>>>
>>> Nothing has changed.
>>
>> Incest is obviously deadly.
>>
> reproduction rates down. Eight of the top ten porn-consuming states
> voted Republican in the last election, with Utah in the lead:
>
> http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Business/story?id=6977202&page=1&page=1
I think all of those repressed Republican's were over at Lary Flynt's site
whacking their goofy's to "Nailin' Palin".
LMAO.
"Eight of the top 10 pornography consuming states gave their electoral votes
to John McCain in last year's presidential election - Florida and Hawaii
were the exceptions. While six out of the lowest 10 favoured Barack Obama. "
"States where a majority of residents agreed with the statement "I have
old-fashioned values about family and marriage," bought 3.6 more
subscriptions per thousand people than states where a majority disagreed. A
similar difference emerged for the statement "AIDS might be God's punishment
for immoral sexual behaviour." "
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John R. Carroll
Curly Surmudgeon
<nu...@bidness.dev.nul> wrote:
> ...God's punishment...
Crazymotherfuckers.
Morton Davis
Too_Many_Tools
> Hew, dipshit, nothing wrong with porn.
There is everything wrong with hypocrisy.
TMT
squirltop
Morton Davis wrote:
> Hew, dipshit, nothing wrong with porn.
Apparently there is when it makes votes for Republicans, using the
issue against those godless immoral Democrats