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jon_banquer
Nov 16, 2012, 5:17:43 PM11/16/12
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Cydrome Leader
Nov 16, 2012, 6:48:22 PM11/16/12
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In rec.crafts.metalworking jon_banquer <jonba...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/cka8hqg
for anybody who hasn't seen this.
there's noise, then a tree in the way of everything and two booms.
> http://tinyurl.com/cka8hqg
for anybody who hasn't seen this.
there's noise, then a tree in the way of everything and two booms.
jon_banquer
Nov 16, 2012, 6:58:55 PM11/16/12
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On Nov 16, 3:48 pm, Cydrome Leader <prese...@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
> In rec.crafts.metalworking jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/cka8hqg
>
> for anybody who hasn't seen this.
>
> there's noise, then a tree in the way of everything and two booms.
Thanks, Ebert.
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/cka8hqg
>
> for anybody who hasn't seen this.
>
> there's noise, then a tree in the way of everything and two booms.
jon_banquer
Nov 18, 2012, 6:14:59 PM11/18/12
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Allen Drake
Nov 18, 2012, 7:31:27 PM11/18/12
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new here. They are no better than the ones they attack.
RogerN
Nov 18, 2012, 8:40:17 PM11/18/12
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"Allen Drake" wrote in message
news:o9via891fcg42vt1m...@4ax.com...
The ones that attack them do so from civilian homes, schools, etc. Israel
tries to limit civilian casualties, their attackers try to make civilian
casualties. See the difference? Israel tries not to, Hamas tries to cause
civilian casualties. Hamas fires rockets at Israeli area not caring if they
hit civilians or whatever, Israel targets Hamas that are hiding in civilian
areas. They do this to get stupid people thinking Israel is just as bad as
Hamas. Only a daffy duck like yourself could be so stupid not to see the
difference and believe the terrorists obvious deception.
RogerN
news:o9via891fcg42vt1m...@4ax.com...
tries to limit civilian casualties, their attackers try to make civilian
casualties. See the difference? Israel tries not to, Hamas tries to cause
civilian casualties. Hamas fires rockets at Israeli area not caring if they
hit civilians or whatever, Israel targets Hamas that are hiding in civilian
areas. They do this to get stupid people thinking Israel is just as bad as
Hamas. Only a daffy duck like yourself could be so stupid not to see the
difference and believe the terrorists obvious deception.
RogerN
Gunner
Nov 19, 2012, 12:50:56 AM11/19/12
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On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 19:40:17 -0600, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net>
wrote:
I just forwarded Alien Ducks header information to an Israeli friend
of mine, who works in some intelligence agency or another, indicating
he is a Hamas /terrorist supporter and NO friend of Israel and giving
him my personal blessing to deal with him..or not as he chooses.
Ill not bother mentioning my personal recommendation...shrug.
It will be interesting to see if the Duck keeps posting.
Gunner
The methodology of the left has always been:
1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie
wrote:
of mine, who works in some intelligence agency or another, indicating
he is a Hamas /terrorist supporter and NO friend of Israel and giving
him my personal blessing to deal with him..or not as he chooses.
Ill not bother mentioning my personal recommendation...shrug.
It will be interesting to see if the Duck keeps posting.
Gunner
The methodology of the left has always been:
1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie
BottleBob
Nov 19, 2012, 2:22:02 AM11/19/12
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Careful there ol' buddy, you're walking a fine line. "Conspiracy to Commit Bodily Harm" can be an actionable offense.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_(crime)
California criminal law is somewhat representative of other jurisdictions. A punishable conspiracy exists when at least two people form an agreement to commit a crime, and at least one of them does some act in furtherance to committing the crime. Each person is punishable in the same manner and to the same extent as is provided for the punishment of the crime itself. [2]
One example of this is The Han Twins Murder Conspiracy case, where one twin sister attempted to hire two youths to have her twin sister killed.
One important feature of a conspiracy charge is that it relieves prosecutors of the need to prove the particular roles of conspirators. If two persons plot to kill another (and this can be proven), and the victim is indeed killed as a result of the actions of either conspirator, it is not necessary to prove with specificity which of the conspirators actually pulled the trigger. (Otherwise, both conspirators could conceivably handle the gun—leaving two sets of fingerprints—and then demand acquittals for both, based on the fact that the prosecutor would be unable to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, which of the two conspirators was the triggerman). A conspiracy conviction requires proof that a) the conspirators did indeed conspire to commit the crime, and b) the crime was committed by an individual involved in the conspiracy. Proof of which individual it was is usually not necessary.
======================================================
Allen Drake
Nov 19, 2012, 3:45:41 AM11/19/12
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so with care. There are no unpopulated areas. There are no places to
hide other than the shelters that only Israel has. If they want to
assassinate someone they should find a better way PERIOD. They are
both terrorists.
John B.
Nov 19, 2012, 6:13:24 AM11/19/12
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On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 19:31:27 -0500, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
wrote:
Right you just can't trust those Christ Killers..... But a nice Arab,
he doesn't do those kind of things. Right?
--
Cheers,
John B.
wrote:
he doesn't do those kind of things. Right?
--
Cheers,
John B.
John B.
Nov 19, 2012, 6:22:01 AM11/19/12
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On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 03:45:41 -0500, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
wrote:
There is an old proverb. Dates back to Geoffrey Chaucer's writings in
1385. Says, "Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones".
Apparently those Arabs didn't have the advantage of a good British
education.
Or maybe this is a Darwin moment that demonstrates that Arabs are not
as clever as other Semites.
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Cheers,
John B.
wrote:
1385. Says, "Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones".
Apparently those Arabs didn't have the advantage of a good British
education.
Or maybe this is a Darwin moment that demonstrates that Arabs are not
as clever as other Semites.
--
Cheers,
John B.
RogerN
Nov 19, 2012, 6:24:13 PM11/19/12
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"Allen Drake" wrote in message
news:c0sja8d35p6dfsdem...@4ax.com...
<snip>
>>
>>The ones that attack them do so from civilian homes, schools, etc. Israel
>>tries to limit civilian casualties, their attackers try to make civilian
>>casualties. See the difference? Israel tries not to, Hamas tries to
>>cause
>>civilian casualties. Hamas fires rockets at Israeli area not caring if
>>they
>>hit civilians or whatever, Israel targets Hamas that are hiding in
>>civilian
>>areas. They do this to get stupid people thinking Israel is just as bad
>>as
>>Hamas. Only a daffy duck like yourself could be so stupid not to see the
>>difference and believe the terrorists obvious deception.
>>
>>RogerN
>>
>There is no difference. Shells fired from battle ships can not be done
>so with care. There are no unpopulated areas. There are no places to
>hide other than the shelters that only Israel has. If they want to
>assassinate someone they should find a better way PERIOD. They are
>both terrorists.
Let's see, Hamas tries to cause civilian casualties, Israel tries to avoid
>>The ones that attack them do so from civilian homes, schools, etc. Israel
>>tries to limit civilian casualties, their attackers try to make civilian
>>casualties. See the difference? Israel tries not to, Hamas tries to
>>cause
>>civilian casualties. Hamas fires rockets at Israeli area not caring if
>>they
>>hit civilians or whatever, Israel targets Hamas that are hiding in
>>civilian
>>areas. They do this to get stupid people thinking Israel is just as bad
>>as
>>Hamas. Only a daffy duck like yourself could be so stupid not to see the
>>difference and believe the terrorists obvious deception.
>>
>>RogerN
>>
>There is no difference. Shells fired from battle ships can not be done
>so with care. There are no unpopulated areas. There are no places to
>hide other than the shelters that only Israel has. If they want to
>assassinate someone they should find a better way PERIOD. They are
>both terrorists.
civilian casualties. You can't see the difference? Hamas likes people like
you, it helps their propaganda war.
Some of the Gaza casualties shown are from Syria, there was a man being
carried, not moving, but no blood, people assume he's dead, then in a later
video the same man is seen walking around fine. Then there is the injured
child that is supposed to be in Gaza, but they accidently filmed the Israeli
ambulance, it was an Israeli child injured by Hamas, that Hamas tried to
claim was caused by Israeli's.
So Hamas tries to find fools to believe their propaganda war and they found
you. Why is it liberals can't see the difference in Hamas trying to cause
civilian casualties and Israel trying to avoid civilian casualties? Israel
has been trying to use precision strikes to fight Hamas (who hide behind
women and children).
RogerN
jon_banquer
Nov 19, 2012, 8:10:28 PM11/19/12
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"There is no country, either large or small, or even the smallest,
against which there is such a document, demanding, saying publicly,
that country should not exist, should be wiped off the map, and behind
those people who carry out also the abominable acts to prove that they
mean it, there is an alignment of many Arab states, armed to the
teeth..." Menachem Begin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menachem_Begin
against which there is such a document, demanding, saying publicly,
that country should not exist, should be wiped off the map, and behind
those people who carry out also the abominable acts to prove that they
mean it, there is an alignment of many Arab states, armed to the
teeth..." Menachem Begin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menachem_Begin
Gunner
Nov 19, 2012, 8:24:48 PM11/19/12
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On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 17:24:13 -0600, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net>
wrote:
Im reminded of the Iraqi that was alleged to have been killed by the
US during Desert Storm. They paraded the open coffin around for a
couple hours and at some point..they dropped the coffin..and the "dead
guy" sprang up out or the wrecked coffin and was bitching and
complaining..then they all started smiling and laughing. All recorded
on video tape by a drone.
The ragheads have little pride, no shame and cant be trusted any
farther than a child molester at a pre-school
wrote:
US during Desert Storm. They paraded the open coffin around for a
couple hours and at some point..they dropped the coffin..and the "dead
guy" sprang up out or the wrecked coffin and was bitching and
complaining..then they all started smiling and laughing. All recorded
on video tape by a drone.
The ragheads have little pride, no shame and cant be trusted any
farther than a child molester at a pre-school
Too_Many_Tools
Nov 19, 2012, 10:36:58 PM11/19/12
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A number of reports have credited President Obama with the success of
the Iron Dome.
TMT
the Iron Dome.
TMT
jon_banquer
Nov 19, 2012, 11:14:16 PM11/19/12
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http://news.yahoo.com/israeli-offensive-gaza-years-making-195916153.html
Israeli offensive in Gaza was years in the making
"LIGHTNING STRIKE
Israel opened its offensive with a surprise airstrike on Nov. 14 that
killed the shadowy leader of Hamas' military wing. Since then, it has
carried out hundreds of airstrikes in what it says is a systematic
campaign to halt years of rocket attacks launched from Gaza. While
Israel claims to have inflicted heavy damage, dozens of rockets have
continued to fly out of Gaza each day.
WHY NOW?
Israel launched the operation in response to days of rocket attacks
out of Gaza, highlighted by a rare missile strike on an Israeli
military jeep that wounded four soldiers. But the operation was
actually years in the making. Since a previous Israeli offensive four
years ago, Hamas has restocked its arsenal with more sophisticated and
powerful weapons smuggled in from Egypt through underground tunnels.
After a lull following Israel's previous offensive, rocket fire has
steadily climbed the past two years. The Israeli military says more
than 700 rockets were launched into Israel this year before it
launched the offensive last week. In this environment, Israeli
officials have said it was only a matter of time before a new round of
fighting broke out.
THE BATTELFIELD
Hamas seized control of Gaza, a densely populated strip of land
sandwiched between southern Israel and Egypt's Sinai desert, five
years ago from the rival Fatah movement of Palestinian President
Mahmoud Abbas. Hamas, a militant group sworn to Israel's destruction,
has developed is rocket arsenal to the point where nearly half of
Israel's population is in range."
"BY THE NUMBERS
—More than 100 Palestinians, half of them civilians, have been killed,
according to Palestinian medical officials. Three Israeli civilians
have died from rocket fire.
—Israel has attacked more than 1,350 targets in the current offensive,
according to the Israeli army. Hamas and smaller armed groups have
responded with nearly 600 rockets, the army says.
—Israel says its new "Iron Dome" rocket-defense system has shot down
more than 300 incoming projectiles"
Israeli offensive in Gaza was years in the making
"LIGHTNING STRIKE
Israel opened its offensive with a surprise airstrike on Nov. 14 that
killed the shadowy leader of Hamas' military wing. Since then, it has
carried out hundreds of airstrikes in what it says is a systematic
campaign to halt years of rocket attacks launched from Gaza. While
Israel claims to have inflicted heavy damage, dozens of rockets have
continued to fly out of Gaza each day.
WHY NOW?
Israel launched the operation in response to days of rocket attacks
out of Gaza, highlighted by a rare missile strike on an Israeli
military jeep that wounded four soldiers. But the operation was
actually years in the making. Since a previous Israeli offensive four
years ago, Hamas has restocked its arsenal with more sophisticated and
powerful weapons smuggled in from Egypt through underground tunnels.
After a lull following Israel's previous offensive, rocket fire has
steadily climbed the past two years. The Israeli military says more
than 700 rockets were launched into Israel this year before it
launched the offensive last week. In this environment, Israeli
officials have said it was only a matter of time before a new round of
fighting broke out.
THE BATTELFIELD
Hamas seized control of Gaza, a densely populated strip of land
sandwiched between southern Israel and Egypt's Sinai desert, five
years ago from the rival Fatah movement of Palestinian President
Mahmoud Abbas. Hamas, a militant group sworn to Israel's destruction,
has developed is rocket arsenal to the point where nearly half of
Israel's population is in range."
"BY THE NUMBERS
—More than 100 Palestinians, half of them civilians, have been killed,
according to Palestinian medical officials. Three Israeli civilians
have died from rocket fire.
—Israel has attacked more than 1,350 targets in the current offensive,
according to the Israeli army. Hamas and smaller armed groups have
responded with nearly 600 rockets, the army says.
—Israel says its new "Iron Dome" rocket-defense system has shot down
more than 300 incoming projectiles"
jon_banquer
Nov 19, 2012, 11:21:31 PM11/19/12
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http://www.rferl.org/content/power-plays-primer-on-israel-gaza-conflict/24775524.html
"IRAN AND PRESIDENT MAHMUD AHMADINEJAD
Iran -- a key ally of Assad's regime in Syria -- also has been a key
supporter of Hamas for years. Iranian President Mahmud Ahmadinejad in
2010 called Hamas the true representative of the Palestinian people.
That angered the rival Palestinian faction Fatah, which accused Iran
of trying to divide the Palestinian people and foment strife.
Meanwhile, Palestinian President Abbas said before the Arab Spring
began that Hamas was being funded mainly by Iran. Ibish says the
closure of the Hamas Politburo headquarters in Damascus has created
"enormous strains with Iran, which is apparently supplying much less
funding and material to Hamas than in the past." Nevertheless, Tehran
continues to issue statements in support of Hamas. In September,
Ahmadinejad said Israel was an "occupier" without roots in the Middle
East and would be "eliminated." Previously, Ahmadinejad called Israel
a "tumor" and said it should be wiped off the map."
"IRAN AND PRESIDENT MAHMUD AHMADINEJAD
Iran -- a key ally of Assad's regime in Syria -- also has been a key
supporter of Hamas for years. Iranian President Mahmud Ahmadinejad in
2010 called Hamas the true representative of the Palestinian people.
That angered the rival Palestinian faction Fatah, which accused Iran
of trying to divide the Palestinian people and foment strife.
Meanwhile, Palestinian President Abbas said before the Arab Spring
began that Hamas was being funded mainly by Iran. Ibish says the
closure of the Hamas Politburo headquarters in Damascus has created
"enormous strains with Iran, which is apparently supplying much less
funding and material to Hamas than in the past." Nevertheless, Tehran
continues to issue statements in support of Hamas. In September,
Ahmadinejad said Israel was an "occupier" without roots in the Middle
East and would be "eliminated." Previously, Ahmadinejad called Israel
a "tumor" and said it should be wiped off the map."
J. Clarke
Nov 19, 2012, 11:51:16 PM11/19/12
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In article <c0sja8d35p6dfsdem...@4ax.com>,
ALD...@Spamex.com says...
When did Israel obtain a battle ship?
ALD...@Spamex.com says...
Allen Drake
Nov 20, 2012, 3:50:14 AM11/20/12
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On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:13:24 +0700, John B. <johnbs...@gmail.com>
what they do.
wrote:
>On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 19:31:27 -0500, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:14:59 -0800 (PST), jon_banquer
>><jonba...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Nov 16, 2:17 pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/cka8hqg
>>>
>>>
>>>Israel’s 'Iron Dome' shoots down dozens of rockets:
>>>
>>>http://video.foxnews.com/v/1976773664001/
>>
>> The cowards also kill children from battle ships off shore. nothing
>>new here. They are no better than the ones they attack.
>
>Right you just can't trust those Christ Killers..... But a nice Arab,
>he doesn't do those kind of things. Right?
Like I indicated. They are both terrorists. I defend none of them or
>On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 19:31:27 -0500, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:14:59 -0800 (PST), jon_banquer
>><jonba...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Nov 16, 2:17 pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/cka8hqg
>>>
>>>
>>>Israel’s 'Iron Dome' shoots down dozens of rockets:
>>>
>>>http://video.foxnews.com/v/1976773664001/
>>
>> The cowards also kill children from battle ships off shore. nothing
>>new here. They are no better than the ones they attack.
>
>Right you just can't trust those Christ Killers..... But a nice Arab,
>he doesn't do those kind of things. Right?
what they do.
Allen Drake
Nov 20, 2012, 3:47:57 AM11/20/12
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Allen Drake
Nov 20, 2012, 3:45:35 AM11/20/12
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is not. If you mean that shelling from a ship is "avoiding"
causalities then you are the tool. Everything you have just posted
shows this to be true.
John B.
Nov 20, 2012, 6:15:13 AM11/20/12
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On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 03:50:14 -0500, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
and sending the black helicopters in to kill someone.
--
Cheers,
John B.
wrote:
>On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:13:24 +0700, John B. <johnbs...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 19:31:27 -0500, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:14:59 -0800 (PST), jon_banquer
>>><jonba...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Nov 16, 2:17�pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/cka8hqg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Israel�s 'Iron Dome' shoots down dozens of rockets:
>>>>
>>>>http://video.foxnews.com/v/1976773664001/
>>>
>>> The cowards also kill children from battle ships off shore. nothing
>>>new here. They are no better than the ones they attack.
>>
>>Right you just can't trust those Christ Killers..... But a nice Arab,
>>he doesn't do those kind of things. Right?
>
> Like I indicated. They are both terrorists. I defend none of them or
>what they do.
One assumes that you will be equally as negative about drone strikes
>On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:13:24 +0700, John B. <johnbs...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 19:31:27 -0500, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:14:59 -0800 (PST), jon_banquer
>>><jonba...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Nov 16, 2:17�pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/cka8hqg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Israel�s 'Iron Dome' shoots down dozens of rockets:
>>>>
>>>>http://video.foxnews.com/v/1976773664001/
>>>
>>> The cowards also kill children from battle ships off shore. nothing
>>>new here. They are no better than the ones they attack.
>>
>>Right you just can't trust those Christ Killers..... But a nice Arab,
>>he doesn't do those kind of things. Right?
>
> Like I indicated. They are both terrorists. I defend none of them or
>what they do.
and sending the black helicopters in to kill someone.
--
Cheers,
John B.
Jim Wilkins
Nov 20, 2012, 10:37:37 AM11/20/12
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"J. Clarke" <jclark...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.2b14d6509...@hamster.jcbsbsdomain.local...
> ...>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_New_Jersey_(BB-62)
news:MPG.2b14d6509...@hamster.jcbsbsdomain.local...
> ...>
> When did Israel obtain a battle ship?
>
The USS New Jersey shelled Lebanon in 1983.
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_New_Jersey_(BB-62)
jon_banquer
Nov 20, 2012, 11:44:34 AM11/20/12
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jon_banquer
Nov 21, 2012, 1:55:01 PM11/21/12
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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-praises-netanyahu-gaza-ceasefire-175446163--politics.html
Obama also highlighted American backing of Israel. "The president made
clear that no country can be expected to tolerate rocket attacks
against civilians," the White House said.
"The president said that the United States would use the opportunity
offered by a cease-fire to intensify efforts to help Israel address
its security needs, especially the issue of the smuggling of weapons
and explosives into Gaza," it said.
"The president said that he was committed to seeking additional
funding for Iron Dome and other U.S.-Israel missile defense programs,"
the White House said.
Obama also highlighted American backing of Israel. "The president made
clear that no country can be expected to tolerate rocket attacks
against civilians," the White House said.
"The president said that the United States would use the opportunity
offered by a cease-fire to intensify efforts to help Israel address
its security needs, especially the issue of the smuggling of weapons
and explosives into Gaza," it said.
"The president said that he was committed to seeking additional
funding for Iron Dome and other U.S.-Israel missile defense programs,"
the White House said.
RogerN
Nov 21, 2012, 8:10:37 PM11/21/12
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"Allen Drake" wrote in message
news:fjgma89uvt08m7uth...@4ax.com...
<snip>
>>So Hamas tries to find fools to believe their propaganda war and they
>>found
>>you. Why is it liberals can't see the difference in Hamas trying to cause
>>civilian casualties and Israel trying to avoid civilian casualties?
>>Israel
>>has been trying to use precision strikes to fight Hamas (who hide behind
>>women and children).
>>
>>RogerN
>>
> They are both terrorists as much as you would like to think one side
>is not. If you mean that shelling from a ship is "avoiding"
>causalities then you are the tool. Everything you have just posted
>shows this to be true.
Suppose you were doing everything you could to try to get along with your
>>found
>>you. Why is it liberals can't see the difference in Hamas trying to cause
>>civilian casualties and Israel trying to avoid civilian casualties?
>>Israel
>>has been trying to use precision strikes to fight Hamas (who hide behind
>>women and children).
>>
>>RogerN
>>
> They are both terrorists as much as you would like to think one side
>is not. If you mean that shelling from a ship is "avoiding"
>causalities then you are the tool. Everything you have just posted
>shows this to be true.
neighbor, but you're neighbor had a problem with you and didn't think you
had the right to exist. So your neighbor shoots a high powered rifle at
your house, hoping to injure or kill you or your children. Your neighbor
hides in his house with his family and fires at your family. So you should
just set there and let the neighbor kill you and your family? Or if you try
to defend yourself, are you just as bad as your neighbor? What would you
do?
RogerN
Michael A. Terrell
Nov 21, 2012, 8:35:29 PM11/21/12
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Allen Drake
Nov 21, 2012, 9:42:41 PM11/21/12
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On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 19:10:37 -0600, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net>
wrote:
Are you serious? What do you think the meaning of "occupation" is?
What about "illegal" settlements? Do you think there is no
"occupation" or "illegal" settlements? The terrorists acts of both
sides did not evolve in such a simple world you seem to exists in.
wrote:
What about "illegal" settlements? Do you think there is no
"occupation" or "illegal" settlements? The terrorists acts of both
sides did not evolve in such a simple world you seem to exists in.
jon_banquer
Nov 21, 2012, 10:03:59 PM11/21/12
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http://news.yahoo.com/hamas-israel-ceasefire-takes-hold-mistrust-runs-deep-004952607.html
"Netanyahu said he was willing to give the truce a chance but held
open the possibility of reopening the conflict. "I know there are
citizens expecting a more severe military action, and perhaps we shall
need to do so," he said."
"Israeli sources said Israel would not lift a blockade of the enclave
it enforced after Hamas, which rejects the Jewish state's right to
exist, won a Palestinian election in 2006."
"Hamas lost its top military commander to an Israeli strike in the
conflict and suffered serious hits to its infrastructure and weaponry,
but has emerged with its reputation both in the Arab world and at home
stronger.
Israel can take comfort from the fact it dealt painful blows to its
enemy, which will take many months to recover, and showed that it can
defend itself from a barrage of missiles.
"No one is under the illusion that this is going to be an everlasting
ceasefire. It is clear to everyone it will only be temporary," said
Michael Herzog, a former chief of staff at the Israeli ministry of
defence.
"Israel, the United States and the European Union all classify Hamas
as a terrorist organization. It seized the Gaza Strip from the Western-
backed Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas in 2007 in a brief but
bloody war with his Fatah movement."
"Netanyahu said he was willing to give the truce a chance but held
open the possibility of reopening the conflict. "I know there are
citizens expecting a more severe military action, and perhaps we shall
need to do so," he said."
"Israeli sources said Israel would not lift a blockade of the enclave
it enforced after Hamas, which rejects the Jewish state's right to
exist, won a Palestinian election in 2006."
"Hamas lost its top military commander to an Israeli strike in the
conflict and suffered serious hits to its infrastructure and weaponry,
but has emerged with its reputation both in the Arab world and at home
stronger.
Israel can take comfort from the fact it dealt painful blows to its
enemy, which will take many months to recover, and showed that it can
defend itself from a barrage of missiles.
"No one is under the illusion that this is going to be an everlasting
ceasefire. It is clear to everyone it will only be temporary," said
Michael Herzog, a former chief of staff at the Israeli ministry of
defence.
"Israel, the United States and the European Union all classify Hamas
as a terrorist organization. It seized the Gaza Strip from the Western-
backed Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas in 2007 in a brief but
bloody war with his Fatah movement."
Tom Gardner
Nov 21, 2012, 10:17:40 PM11/21/12
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as you do!
Tom Gardner
Nov 21, 2012, 10:21:59 PM11/21/12
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for that excuse, we have to find another reason to slaughter them
fuckin' Jooz! I know, we'll spread lioes and anti-Joo propaganda..YEA,
YEA! Kill da Jooz! Kill da Jooz! Kill da Jooz! Kill da Jooz!
Allen Drake
Nov 22, 2012, 3:15:08 AM11/22/12
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The most recent are the assignations of children. Maybe you can stop
your crazy drooling and spitting and get a grip long enough to look
beyond your sickness and admit that terrorist acts by anyone are
wrong.
Allen Drake
Nov 22, 2012, 3:17:45 AM11/22/12
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like killing. This is really why you are in this thread, isn't it?
jon_banquer
Nov 22, 2012, 10:17:14 AM11/22/12
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RogerN
Nov 22, 2012, 11:55:49 AM11/22/12
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"Allen Drake" wrote in message
news:1enra85gf1pu1cd46...@4ax.com...
>On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 22:21:59 -0500, Tom Gardner <Mars@Tacks> wrote:
>
>>> Are you serious? What do you think the meaning of "occupation" is?
>>> What about "illegal" settlements? Do you think there is no
>>> "occupation" or "illegal" settlements? The terrorists acts of both
>>> sides did not evolve in such a simple world you seem to exists in.
>>>
>>
>>There are no legal or illegal Joo settlements in Gaza. Damn! So much
>>for that excuse, we have to find another reason to slaughter them
>>fuckin' Jooz! I know, we'll spread lioes and anti-Joo propaganda..YEA,
>>YEA! Kill da Jooz! Kill da Jooz! Kill da Jooz! Kill da Jooz!
>
>
> Man you are one nut job. This is about all the issues not just Gaza.
>The most recent are the assignations of children. Maybe you can stop
>your crazy drooling and spitting and get a grip long enough to look
>beyond your sickness and admit that terrorist acts by anyone are
>wrong.
Israel gets attacked by Arabs, they kick the crap out of the Arabs and gain
>>> What about "illegal" settlements? Do you think there is no
>>> "occupation" or "illegal" settlements? The terrorists acts of both
>>> sides did not evolve in such a simple world you seem to exists in.
>>>
>>
>>There are no legal or illegal Joo settlements in Gaza. Damn! So much
>>for that excuse, we have to find another reason to slaughter them
>>fuckin' Jooz! I know, we'll spread lioes and anti-Joo propaganda..YEA,
>>YEA! Kill da Jooz! Kill da Jooz! Kill da Jooz! Kill da Jooz!
>
>
> Man you are one nut job. This is about all the issues not just Gaza.
>The most recent are the assignations of children. Maybe you can stop
>your crazy drooling and spitting and get a grip long enough to look
>beyond your sickness and admit that terrorist acts by anyone are
>wrong.
land. The Arabs want the land back, the land they lost because of the fight
they started with their peaceful neighbor Israel.
Here's the difference since you are purposely blind to see it:
http://townhall.com/columnists/jeffjacoby/2012/11/22/a_vast_moral_difference
"Palestinians have a fierce new song to accompany their intensified conflict
with Israel. "Strike a Blow at Tel Aviv," recorded by Shadi al-Bourini and
Qassem al-Najjar, was posted last week on various Palestinian websites,
including the Facebook page of the TV show Fenjan Al-Balad, which describes
its mission as "trying to influence young Palestinian society for the
better." The video, which features images of wounded Israelis and massed
Qassam artillery rockets, opens with these lines:
Strike a blow at Tel Aviv.
Strike a blow at Tel Aviv.
Strike a blow at Tel Aviv and frighten the Zionists.
The more you build it, the more we will destroy it.
Strike a blow at Tel Aviv.
Over a driving beat, the lyrics (translated by the Middle East Media
Research Institute) grow increasingly bellicose. "We don't want no truce or
bargain," they proclaim. They exhort the missiles to "explode in the
Knesset" and "terrorize Tel Aviv," while mocking the Israelis in bomb
shelters who "cower with fear."
There have been many Israeli war songs over the years. Indeed, the endless
conflict with the Arabs has engendered some of Israel's most enduring music.
But most of it revolves around a longing for peace and the desire for
normality. An Israeli equivalent of "Strike a Blow at Tel Aviv," ecstatic at
the prospect of killing the enemy, is virtually unthinkable."
RogerN
Allen Drake
Nov 22, 2012, 5:15:55 PM11/22/12
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On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 10:55:49 -0600, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net>
wrote:
I am not blind to anything. Terrorists attack each other from both
sides. Nothing new here. The only thing that is different from there
and the rest of the world is one side thinks they have the right to
endlessly expand their borders and continue to build illegal
settlements. Only one side has ignored the UN more than any other
country in the world.
wrote:
sides. Nothing new here. The only thing that is different from there
and the rest of the world is one side thinks they have the right to
endlessly expand their borders and continue to build illegal
settlements. Only one side has ignored the UN more than any other
country in the world.
Allen Drake
Nov 22, 2012, 5:20:27 PM11/22/12
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hate the truth and love the deaths of women and children. You will
forever claim those that criticize the state if israel as haters of
jews. This is what you do and love every chance you get to hate others
while all along hating yourself.
Must suck to be you.
jon_banquer
Nov 22, 2012, 5:30:37 PM11/22/12
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bullshit. Why not finally get honest and admit what many already
know:
You hate Jews.
Allen Drake
Nov 22, 2012, 7:11:42 PM11/22/12
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that dislikes the deaths of civilians caused by israel. You are
consumed by your self loathing.
RogerN
Nov 22, 2012, 8:17:19 PM11/22/12
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"Allen Drake" wrote in message
news:pm8ta8tjmi7m00qcq...@4ax.com...
<snip>
>>There have been many Israeli war songs over the years. Indeed, the endless
>>conflict with the Arabs has engendered some of Israel's most enduring
>>music.
>>But most of it revolves around a longing for peace and the desire for
>>normality. An Israeli equivalent of "Strike a Blow at Tel Aviv," ecstatic
>>at
>>the prospect of killing the enemy, is virtually unthinkable."
>>
>>RogerN
>>
> I am not blind to anything. Terrorists attack each other from both
>sides. Nothing new here. The only thing that is different from there
>and the rest of the world is one side thinks they have the right to
>endlessly expand their borders and continue to build illegal
>settlements. Only one side has ignored the UN more than any other
>country in the world.
Bomb on the bus, Arabs, 900 rockets fired at civilians within a month,
>>conflict with the Arabs has engendered some of Israel's most enduring
>>music.
>>But most of it revolves around a longing for peace and the desire for
>>normality. An Israeli equivalent of "Strike a Blow at Tel Aviv," ecstatic
>>at
>>the prospect of killing the enemy, is virtually unthinkable."
>>
>>RogerN
>>
> I am not blind to anything. Terrorists attack each other from both
>sides. Nothing new here. The only thing that is different from there
>and the rest of the world is one side thinks they have the right to
>endlessly expand their borders and continue to build illegal
>settlements. Only one side has ignored the UN more than any other
>country in the world.
Arabs. These unguided rockets launched at civilians are war crimes. Israel
is trying to defend themselves from terrorist attacks, it's not their fault
the terrorist cowards hide behind women and children.
Even the extreme left winger Obama says Israel has the right to defend
themselves. I suppose in your opinion the twin towers were guilty of
hitting the planes the terrorists were on? How dare they put buildings in
the poor terrorists flight path.
Are you a kook like TMT that feels sorry for a robber that gets shot while
committing a robbery? TMT wants to make the world a safer place for
criminals and more dangerous for law abiding citizens. You sound like you
might have the same mental illness.
RogerN
Too_Many_Tools
Nov 22, 2012, 8:35:27 PM11/22/12
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On Nov 19, 1:22 am, BottleBob <bottl...@earthlink.net> wrote:
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> > >>On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:14:59 -0800 (PST), jon_banquer
>
> > of mine, who works in some intelligence agency or another, indicating
>
> > he is a Hamas /terrorist supporter and NO friend of Israel and giving
>
> > him my personal blessing to deal with him..or not as he chooses.
>
> > Ill not bother mentioning my personal recommendation...shrug.
>
> > It will be interesting to see if the Duck keeps posting.
>
> > Gunner
>
> Gunner:
>
> Careful there ol' buddy, you're walking a fine line. "Conspiracy to Commit Bodily Harm" can be an actionable offense.
>
> ======================================================http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_(crime)
>
> California criminal law is somewhat representative of other jurisdictions. A punishable conspiracy exists when at least two people form an agreement to commit a crime, and at least one of them does some act in furtherance to committing the crime. Each person is punishable in the same manner and to the same extent as is provided for the punishment of the crime itself. [2]
> One example of this is The Han Twins Murder Conspiracy case, where one twin sister attempted to hire two youths to have her twin sister killed.
> One important feature of a conspiracy charge is that it relieves prosecutors of the need to prove the particular roles of conspirators. If two persons plot to kill another (and this can be proven), and the victim is indeed killed as a result of the actions of either conspirator, it is not necessary to prove with specificity which of the conspirators actually pulled the trigger. (Otherwise, both conspirators could conceivably handle the gun—leaving two sets of fingerprints—and then demand acquittals for both, based on the fact that the prosecutor would be unable to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, which of the two conspirators was the triggerman). A conspiracy conviction requires proof that a) the conspirators did indeed conspire to commit the crime, and b) the crime was committed by an individual involved in the conspiracy. Proof of which individual it was is usually not necessary.
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Gunner?
Oh you mean Mark Wieber of Taft, Ca.
TMT
> On Sunday, November 18, 2012 9:51:21 PM UTC-8, Gunner wrote:
> > On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 19:40:17 -0600, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net>
>
> > wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 19:40:17 -0600, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net>
>
> > wrote:
>
> > >"Allen Drake" wrote in message
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> > >news:o9via891fcg42vt1m...@4ax.com...
>
>
> > >>On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:14:59 -0800 (PST), jon_banquer
>
> > >><jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >>>On Nov 16, 2:17 pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >>>>http://tinyurl.com/cka8hqg
>
> > >>>Israel's 'Iron Dome' shoots down dozens of rockets:
>
> > >>>http://video.foxnews.com/v/1976773664001/
>
> > >> The cowards also kill children from battle ships off shore. nothing
>
> > >>new here. They are no better than the ones they attack.
>
> > >><jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >>>On Nov 16, 2:17 pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >>>>http://tinyurl.com/cka8hqg
>
> > >>>Israel's 'Iron Dome' shoots down dozens of rockets:
>
> > >>>http://video.foxnews.com/v/1976773664001/
>
> > >> The cowards also kill children from battle ships off shore. nothing
>
> > >>new here. They are no better than the ones they attack.
>
> > >The ones that attack them do so from civilian homes, schools, etc. Israel
>
> > >tries to limit civilian casualties, their attackers try to make civilian
>
> > >casualties. See the difference? Israel tries not to, Hamas tries to cause
>
> > >civilian casualties. Hamas fires rockets at Israeli area not caring if they
>
> > >hit civilians or whatever, Israel targets Hamas that are hiding in civilian
>
> > >areas. They do this to get stupid people thinking Israel is just as bad as
>
> > >Hamas. Only a daffy duck like yourself could be so stupid not to see the
>
> > >difference and believe the terrorists obvious deception.
>
> > >RogerN
>
> > I just forwarded Alien Ducks header information to an Israeli friend
>
> > >tries to limit civilian casualties, their attackers try to make civilian
>
> > >casualties. See the difference? Israel tries not to, Hamas tries to cause
>
> > >civilian casualties. Hamas fires rockets at Israeli area not caring if they
>
> > >hit civilians or whatever, Israel targets Hamas that are hiding in civilian
>
> > >areas. They do this to get stupid people thinking Israel is just as bad as
>
> > >Hamas. Only a daffy duck like yourself could be so stupid not to see the
>
> > >difference and believe the terrorists obvious deception.
>
> > >RogerN
>
>
> > of mine, who works in some intelligence agency or another, indicating
>
> > he is a Hamas /terrorist supporter and NO friend of Israel and giving
>
> > him my personal blessing to deal with him..or not as he chooses.
>
> > Ill not bother mentioning my personal recommendation...shrug.
>
> > It will be interesting to see if the Duck keeps posting.
>
> > Gunner
>
> Gunner:
>
> Careful there ol' buddy, you're walking a fine line. "Conspiracy to Commit Bodily Harm" can be an actionable offense.
>
> ======================================================http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_(crime)
>
> California criminal law is somewhat representative of other jurisdictions. A punishable conspiracy exists when at least two people form an agreement to commit a crime, and at least one of them does some act in furtherance to committing the crime. Each person is punishable in the same manner and to the same extent as is provided for the punishment of the crime itself. [2]
> One example of this is The Han Twins Murder Conspiracy case, where one twin sister attempted to hire two youths to have her twin sister killed.
> One important feature of a conspiracy charge is that it relieves prosecutors of the need to prove the particular roles of conspirators. If two persons plot to kill another (and this can be proven), and the victim is indeed killed as a result of the actions of either conspirator, it is not necessary to prove with specificity which of the conspirators actually pulled the trigger. (Otherwise, both conspirators could conceivably handle the gun—leaving two sets of fingerprints—and then demand acquittals for both, based on the fact that the prosecutor would be unable to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, which of the two conspirators was the triggerman). A conspiracy conviction requires proof that a) the conspirators did indeed conspire to commit the crime, and b) the crime was committed by an individual involved in the conspiracy. Proof of which individual it was is usually not necessary.
> ======================================================- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -
Gunner?
Oh you mean Mark Wieber of Taft, Ca.
TMT
jon_banquer
Nov 22, 2012, 8:54:28 PM11/22/12
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On Nov 22, 4:11 pm, Allen Drake <ALDr...@Spamex.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:30:37 -0800 (PST), jon_banquer
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> On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:30:37 -0800 (PST), jon_banquer
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hating posts.
J. Clarke
Nov 23, 2012, 12:09:34 AM11/23/12
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In article <0sgma85mcsd2hp2cf...@4ax.com>,
ALD...@Spamex.com says...
Having personally hit car-sized targets with shellfire from naval
rifles, I can say that naval gunfire can be quite accurate. But if the
gun that is shooting at your ship is in the middle of a kindergarten,
kids are going to get hurt when you take it out.
The fault in that case is not with the sailors, but with the people who
put the gun in a kindergarten.
This is what Hamas does, coldly, heartlessly, and deliberately,
sacrificing children and sick people and the elderly and any other group
whose killing will draw sympathy. But you are so filled with hatred
that you cannot see this.
The fact that the Palestinians in Gaza, by democratic process, put Hamas
in power, _after_ Hamas had shown that this was thier plan, condemns the
whole lot. Anything that happens to them is on their own heads. They
say that people get the kind of government that they deserve. Well, the
Palestinians made their choice and now they're reaping the rewards.
If you don't like it, perhaps you should move to Gaza and help Hamas.
ALD...@Spamex.com says...
rifles, I can say that naval gunfire can be quite accurate. But if the
gun that is shooting at your ship is in the middle of a kindergarten,
kids are going to get hurt when you take it out.
The fault in that case is not with the sailors, but with the people who
put the gun in a kindergarten.
This is what Hamas does, coldly, heartlessly, and deliberately,
sacrificing children and sick people and the elderly and any other group
whose killing will draw sympathy. But you are so filled with hatred
that you cannot see this.
The fact that the Palestinians in Gaza, by democratic process, put Hamas
in power, _after_ Hamas had shown that this was thier plan, condemns the
whole lot. Anything that happens to them is on their own heads. They
say that people get the kind of government that they deserve. Well, the
Palestinians made their choice and now they're reaping the rewards.
If you don't like it, perhaps you should move to Gaza and help Hamas.
Too_Many_Tools
Nov 23, 2012, 12:34:13 AM11/23/12
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On Nov 19, 7:25 pm, Gunner <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 17:24:13 -0600, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net>
> ><snip>
> US during Desert Storm. They paraded the open coffin around for a
> couple hours and at some point..they dropped the coffin..and the "dead
> guy" sprang up out or the wrecked coffin and was bitching and
> complaining..then they all started smiling and laughing. All recorded
> on video tape by a drone.
>
> The ragheads have little pride, no shame and cant be trusted any
> farther than a child molester at a pre-school
>
> Gunner
>
> The methodology of the left has always been:
>
> 1. Lie
> 2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
> 3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
> 4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
> 5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
> 6. Then everyone must conform to the lie- Hide quoted text -
TMT
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 17:24:13 -0600, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >"Allen Drake" wrote in message
> >news:c0sja8d35p6dfsdem...@4ax.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> >"Allen Drake" wrote in message
> ><snip>
>
> >>>The ones that attack them do so from civilian homes, schools, etc. Israel
> >>>tries to limit civilian casualties, their attackers try to make civilian
> >>>casualties. See the difference? Israel tries not to, Hamas tries to
> >>>cause
> >>>civilian casualties. Hamas fires rockets at Israeli area not caring if
> >>>they
> >>>hit civilians or whatever, Israel targets Hamas that are hiding in
> >>>civilian
> >>>areas. They do this to get stupid people thinking Israel is just as bad
> >>>as
> >>>Hamas. Only a daffy duck like yourself could be so stupid not to see the
> >>>difference and believe the terrorists obvious deception.
>
> >>>RogerN
>
> >>There is no difference. Shells fired from battle ships can not be done
> >>so with care. There are no unpopulated areas. There are no places to
> >>hide other than the shelters that only Israel has. If they want to
> >>assassinate someone they should find a better way PERIOD. They are
> >>both terrorists.
>
> >>>The ones that attack them do so from civilian homes, schools, etc. Israel
> >>>tries to limit civilian casualties, their attackers try to make civilian
> >>>casualties. See the difference? Israel tries not to, Hamas tries to
> >>>cause
> >>>civilian casualties. Hamas fires rockets at Israeli area not caring if
> >>>they
> >>>hit civilians or whatever, Israel targets Hamas that are hiding in
> >>>civilian
> >>>areas. They do this to get stupid people thinking Israel is just as bad
> >>>as
> >>>Hamas. Only a daffy duck like yourself could be so stupid not to see the
> >>>difference and believe the terrorists obvious deception.
>
> >>>RogerN
>
> >>There is no difference. Shells fired from battle ships can not be done
> >>so with care. There are no unpopulated areas. There are no places to
> >>hide other than the shelters that only Israel has. If they want to
> >>assassinate someone they should find a better way PERIOD. They are
> >>both terrorists.
>
> >Let's see, Hamas tries to cause civilian casualties, Israel tries to avoid
> >civilian casualties. You can't see the difference? Hamas likes people like
> >you, it helps their propaganda war.
>
> >Some of the Gaza casualties shown are from Syria, there was a man being
> >carried, not moving, but no blood, people assume he's dead, then in a later
> >video the same man is seen walking around fine. Then there is the injured
> >child that is supposed to be in Gaza, but they accidently filmed the Israeli
> >ambulance, it was an Israeli child injured by Hamas, that Hamas tried to
> >claim was caused by Israeli's.
>
> >So Hamas tries to find fools to believe their propaganda war and they found
> >you. Why is it liberals can't see the difference in Hamas trying to cause
> >civilian casualties and Israel trying to avoid civilian casualties? Israel
> >has been trying to use precision strikes to fight Hamas (who hide behind
> >women and children).
>
> >RogerN
>
> Im reminded of the Iraqi that was alleged to have been killed by the
> >civilian casualties. You can't see the difference? Hamas likes people like
> >you, it helps their propaganda war.
>
> >Some of the Gaza casualties shown are from Syria, there was a man being
> >carried, not moving, but no blood, people assume he's dead, then in a later
> >video the same man is seen walking around fine. Then there is the injured
> >child that is supposed to be in Gaza, but they accidently filmed the Israeli
> >ambulance, it was an Israeli child injured by Hamas, that Hamas tried to
> >claim was caused by Israeli's.
>
> >So Hamas tries to find fools to believe their propaganda war and they found
> >you. Why is it liberals can't see the difference in Hamas trying to cause
> >civilian casualties and Israel trying to avoid civilian casualties? Israel
> >has been trying to use precision strikes to fight Hamas (who hide behind
> >women and children).
>
> >RogerN
>
> US during Desert Storm. They paraded the open coffin around for a
> couple hours and at some point..they dropped the coffin..and the "dead
> guy" sprang up out or the wrecked coffin and was bitching and
> complaining..then they all started smiling and laughing. All recorded
> on video tape by a drone.
>
> The ragheads have little pride, no shame and cant be trusted any
> farther than a child molester at a pre-school
>
> Gunner
>
> The methodology of the left has always been:
>
> 1. Lie
> 2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
> 3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
> 4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
> 5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
> 6. Then everyone must conform to the lie- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Or a conservative in Taft, CA...
> - Show quoted text -
TMT
jon_banquer
Nov 23, 2012, 12:59:59 AM11/23/12
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On Nov 22, 9:30 pm, "J. Clarke" <jclarkeuse...@cox.net> wrote:
> In article <0sgma85mcsd2hp2cff6kb45qdv89lnh...@4ax.com>,
> ALDr...@Spamex.com says...
>
> > >In article <c0sja8d35p6dfsdemqbe5eoc0pe2tra...@4ax.com>,
> > >ALDr...@Spamex.com says...
Excellent suggestion. Plenty of like minded people that share his
hatred of Jews there.
> In article <0sgma85mcsd2hp2cff6kb45qdv89lnh...@4ax.com>,
> ALDr...@Spamex.com says...
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> > On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 23:51:16 -0500, "J. Clarke"
> > <jclarkeuse...@cox.net> wrote:
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> > On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 23:51:16 -0500, "J. Clarke"
>
> > >In article <c0sja8d35p6dfsdemqbe5eoc0pe2tra...@4ax.com>,
> > >ALDr...@Spamex.com says...
hatred of Jews there.
Allen Drake
Nov 23, 2012, 5:28:56 AM11/23/12
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On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 19:17:19 -0600, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net>
wrote:
You are the one that is twisted. I don't support the killing of
civilians under any circumstances. You sound like the nut jobs that
accuse those who didn't support the wars of the right and their lies
as not supporting the troops. The world condemns many of the acts of
the israeli leaders but in your simple mind they all must hate jews.
You are in the minority here.
wrote:
civilians under any circumstances. You sound like the nut jobs that
accuse those who didn't support the wars of the right and their lies
as not supporting the troops. The world condemns many of the acts of
the israeli leaders but in your simple mind they all must hate jews.
You are in the minority here.
Allen Drake
Nov 23, 2012, 5:35:22 AM11/23/12
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jews and many even care to read your insane ranting. This shows how
sick you really are. Most others would say they hate the terror the
israelis have offered as an answer to a peace process and rightly so.
You seem like a very cowardly scared small man to hide behind your
lies of hate while it is you that is the true hatter of life and
freedom. Just as long as your handlers get their land as many children
and woman die in the process if fine with you.
Allen Drake
Nov 23, 2012, 5:40:01 AM11/23/12
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On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 00:09:34 -0500, "J. Clarke"
even those that speak out must be put to death. Drop them all some
notes telling them to hide and bomb that playground. Those that fail
to escape are not worthy of life so close to the chosen ones that have
been told by their godless leaders they are special.
Allen Drake
Nov 23, 2012, 5:42:17 AM11/23/12
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israel. You seem to cowardly.
F.K.
Nov 23, 2012, 6:57:38 AM11/23/12
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On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 05:42:17 -0500, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
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Lets see here. First the God of Abraham gave Israel to the Jews then
the UN did the same thing and you want to deny God AND the U.N.?
You certainly are either a very stupid individual or a very arrogant
one.
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the UN did the same thing and you want to deny God AND the U.N.?
You certainly are either a very stupid individual or a very arrogant
one.
F.K.
Nov 23, 2012, 7:03:38 AM11/23/12
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On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 05:40:01 -0500, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
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You have it ass backward. They aren't dying for Israel, they are dying
in order to provide propaganda for the Arabs.
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in order to provide propaganda for the Arabs.
F.K.
Nov 23, 2012, 7:11:05 AM11/23/12
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On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 05:28:56 -0500, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
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You don't? Strange that. Apparently you understand much about
terrorists. After all they don't wear uniforms or carry dog tags. they
are just a bunch of good old country boys who get together every
little while to bomb a bus or rocket a school.
In between atrocities they walk around just like everyone else. Of
course, their main source of quarters and rations is their own family
and the Imam at the Mosque blesses them and tells them that they are
doing the right thing.
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terrorists. After all they don't wear uniforms or carry dog tags. they
are just a bunch of good old country boys who get together every
little while to bomb a bus or rocket a school.
In between atrocities they walk around just like everyone else. Of
course, their main source of quarters and rations is their own family
and the Imam at the Mosque blesses them and tells them that they are
doing the right thing.
F.K.
Nov 23, 2012, 7:18:38 AM11/23/12
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On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 05:35:22 -0500, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
Well, The Israelis are much nicer then Americans :-)
Had they followed the recommendation of that famous American soldier,
Colonel Chivington, who said "Kill 'em all! Big and small. Nits make
lice". The Arab problem would not even exist today.
Had they followed the recommendation of that famous American soldier,
Colonel Chivington, who said "Kill 'em all! Big and small. Nits make
lice". The Arab problem would not even exist today.
jon_banquer
Nov 23, 2012, 10:31:30 AM11/23/12
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You hate Jews.
Allen Drake
Nov 23, 2012, 6:16:09 PM11/23/12
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live for your twisted beliefs. You are one sick extremist.
Tom Gardner
Nov 23, 2012, 8:01:30 PM11/23/12
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>> But most of it revolves around a longing for peace and the desire for
>> normality. An Israeli equivalent of "Strike a Blow at Tel Aviv," ecstatic at
>> the prospect of killing the enemy, is virtually unthinkable."
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>> RogerN
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> I am not blind to anything. Terrorists attack each other from both
> sides. Nothing new here. The only thing that is different from there
> and the rest of the world is one side thinks they have the right to
> endlessly expand their borders and continue to build illegal
> settlements. Only one side has ignored the UN more than any other
> country in the world.
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The UN is one big anti-Joo club. (you should join!) Please explain
>> normality. An Israeli equivalent of "Strike a Blow at Tel Aviv," ecstatic at
>> the prospect of killing the enemy, is virtually unthinkable."
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>> RogerN
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> I am not blind to anything. Terrorists attack each other from both
> sides. Nothing new here. The only thing that is different from there
> and the rest of the world is one side thinks they have the right to
> endlessly expand their borders and continue to build illegal
> settlements. Only one side has ignored the UN more than any other
> country in the world.
>
"Endlessly expanding their borders". Tell us about illegal settlements?
Where are they? Since you're not blind, what excuse DO you have for
hating Jooz so much that you lie and lie and lie?
Tom Gardner
Nov 23, 2012, 8:09:53 PM11/23/12
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leftist Joo hater and support the murder of Joo children and civilians
and would probably launch some of the thousands of Iranian made rockets
if you could. Wouldn't you love to strap one of those vests on for the
cause? Maybe you could get another bus full of school kids...as long as
they be JOOZ!
Tom Gardner
Nov 23, 2012, 8:11:14 PM11/23/12
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Tom Gardner
Nov 23, 2012, 8:14:29 PM11/23/12
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>>> that dislikes the deaths of civilians caused by israel. You are
>>> consumed by your self loathing.
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>> You hate Jews. I know it and so do most others who read your Jew
>> hating posts.
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> I hate their terrorist acts. You seem to think many people here hate
> jews and many even care to read your insane ranting. This shows how
> sick you really are. Most others would say they hate the terror the
> israelis have offered as an answer to a peace process and rightly so.
> You seem like a very cowardly scared small man to hide behind your
> lies of hate while it is you that is the true hatter of life and
> freedom. Just as long as your handlers get their land as many children
> and woman die in the process if fine with you.
>
EVERYBODY here has you pegged as a JOO hater. We all believe you would
>>> consumed by your self loathing.
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>> You hate Jews. I know it and so do most others who read your Jew
>> hating posts.
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> I hate their terrorist acts. You seem to think many people here hate
> jews and many even care to read your insane ranting. This shows how
> sick you really are. Most others would say they hate the terror the
> israelis have offered as an answer to a peace process and rightly so.
> You seem like a very cowardly scared small man to hide behind your
> lies of hate while it is you that is the true hatter of life and
> freedom. Just as long as your handlers get their land as many children
> and woman die in the process if fine with you.
>
kill as many as you could whenever and wherever you can.
Tom Gardner
Nov 23, 2012, 8:18:49 PM11/23/12
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YOU are the sick, twisted extremist.
Gunner
Nov 23, 2012, 9:13:12 PM11/23/12
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the subject to an old aquaintence of mine who may or may not still
work for Mossad. He might be retired now..but he still knows everybody
in the shop and will pass it along to interested parties.
jon_banquer
Nov 23, 2012, 9:39:21 PM11/23/12
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fucking idiot.
Allen Drake
Nov 24, 2012, 4:03:40 AM11/24/12
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happily have McCain bomb Iran to feed your hate. I have clearly stated
my position and do not support killing of any kind of civilians. It is
comical to see you melt down as this confuses you doesn't it? You
clearly display your hate and show what you truly are. A babbling
buffoon.
Allen Drake
Nov 24, 2012, 4:14:59 AM11/24/12
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Israel has a policy that says they will continue to expand their
borders due to "natural" growth. Do you deny this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settlement
I guess Wikipedia hates you too and all this are lies by your beloved
"Joo" haters club.
I feel very sorry for people like you. You must be really miserable
hating the way you do.
Allen Drake
Nov 24, 2012, 4:16:42 AM11/24/12
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over :)
Allen Drake
Nov 24, 2012, 4:17:51 AM11/24/12
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Allen Drake
Nov 24, 2012, 4:20:59 AM11/24/12
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continually though. Keep it up. Good work exposing your true self.
John B.
Nov 24, 2012, 7:06:13 AM11/24/12
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On Sat, 24 Nov 2012 04:03:40 -0500, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
wrote:
Lets see if I understand. The Israeli Army wears uniforms so they must
be soldiers and therefore it is O.K. to kill them.
The Palestinian Arabs wear civilian clothes and sneak around with
bombs in their briefcases and therefore it is NOT the correct thing to
do to kill them although they just blew up the bus that your mother
was riding on.
--
Cheers,
John B.
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be soldiers and therefore it is O.K. to kill them.
The Palestinian Arabs wear civilian clothes and sneak around with
bombs in their briefcases and therefore it is NOT the correct thing to
do to kill them although they just blew up the bus that your mother
was riding on.
--
Cheers,
John B.
jon_banquer
Nov 24, 2012, 10:30:52 AM11/24/12
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On Nov 24, 1:21 am, Allen Drake <ALDr...@Spamex.com> wrote:
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RogerN
Nov 24, 2012, 10:58:58 AM11/24/12
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"Allen Drake" wrote in message
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>On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 20:09:53 -0500, Tom Gardner <Mars@Tacks> wrote:
>
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>>Ah, "wars of the right"...that explains you. YOU are a twisted Muslim,
>>leftist Joo hater and support the murder of Joo children and civilians
>>and would probably launch some of the thousands of Iranian made rockets
>>if you could. Wouldn't you love to strap one of those vests on for the
>>cause? Maybe you could get another bus full of school kids...as long as
>>they be JOOZ!
>
> You are one sick little man projecting again I see. You would
>happily have McCain bomb Iran to feed your hate. I have clearly stated
>my position and do not support killing of any kind of civilians. It is
>comical to see you melt down as this confuses you doesn't it? You
>clearly display your hate and show what you truly are. A babbling
>buffoon.
Why such difficulty in understanding? Hamas is starting the fight, Israel
>>Ah, "wars of the right"...that explains you. YOU are a twisted Muslim,
>>leftist Joo hater and support the murder of Joo children and civilians
>>and would probably launch some of the thousands of Iranian made rockets
>>if you could. Wouldn't you love to strap one of those vests on for the
>>cause? Maybe you could get another bus full of school kids...as long as
>>they be JOOZ!
>
> You are one sick little man projecting again I see. You would
>happily have McCain bomb Iran to feed your hate. I have clearly stated
>my position and do not support killing of any kind of civilians. It is
>comical to see you melt down as this confuses you doesn't it? You
>clearly display your hate and show what you truly are. A babbling
>buffoon.
is fighting back to protect themselves. Hamas says Israel does not have the
right to exist, nothing about expanding borders, exist! So Hamas starts the
fight, when Israel hits back, Hamas fakes extra women and children
fatalities to get suckers like you. There are some real civilian
casualties, these are all caused by Hamas in one way or another, either by
Hamas launching rockets at civilian areas or Hamas launching their attacks
and stashing their rockets in civilian homes and schools. See, they want it
to cause civilian casualties if Israel tries to fight back, only the most
evil life forms in the universe would fall for their obvious BS. Like Jesus
said of your kind, you hate truth and love lies.
RogerN
jon_banquer
Nov 24, 2012, 1:57:48 PM11/24/12
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and that Jews should not have the homeland they deserve.
Alan is unwilling to deal with the fact that many of Israel enemies,
such as Iran, have declared that Israel has no right to exist. Alan
can't accept the fact that Israel hasn't said the same about its
enemies and hasn't declared they have no right to exist.
Alan isn't capable of acknowledging all the agricultural and other
advances that Israel has made that its Arab neighbors haven't.
Alan hates Jews and wishes to try and hide from this fact by branding
Israel a nation of terrorists. It's a lame approach that doesn't work
and is transparent.
Allen Drake
Nov 24, 2012, 4:02:34 PM11/24/12
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On Sat, 24 Nov 2012 19:06:13 +0700, John B. <johnbs...@gmail.com>
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Is that what you believe?
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>The Palestinian Arabs wear civilian clothes and sneak around with
>bombs in their briefcases and therefore it is NOT the correct thing to
>do to kill them although they just blew up the bus that your mother
>was riding on.
I defend no one but the innocent civilians that get caught up in all
this hate. I think that when anyone is responsible for attacks that
kill them they all are equally guilty. Both sides in this have their
own terrorists. The ones that attack Israel and the Israelis that
assassinate leaders riding around with their children in their cars.
Hamas is a terrorist organization and must be stopped but not at the
cost one innocent child. If I kill your children do you now have the
right to kill mine? If you answer yes then you are no better than I.
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>The Palestinian Arabs wear civilian clothes and sneak around with
>bombs in their briefcases and therefore it is NOT the correct thing to
>do to kill them although they just blew up the bus that your mother
>was riding on.
this hate. I think that when anyone is responsible for attacks that
kill them they all are equally guilty. Both sides in this have their
own terrorists. The ones that attack Israel and the Israelis that
assassinate leaders riding around with their children in their cars.
Hamas is a terrorist organization and must be stopped but not at the
cost one innocent child. If I kill your children do you now have the
right to kill mine? If you answer yes then you are no better than I.
Allen Drake
Nov 24, 2012, 4:08:39 PM11/24/12
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On Sat, 24 Nov 2012 09:58:58 -0600, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net>
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You are projecting again. You are the one that hates the truth and
continually lies and believes your own stories. You are nothing but
BS. You hate and need some justification so you blame Israeli terror
on the others. There are terrorists on both sides whether you like it
or not.
Noting gives any state the right to assassinate children but Israel
will continue her terror.
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continually lies and believes your own stories. You are nothing but
BS. You hate and need some justification so you blame Israeli terror
on the others. There are terrorists on both sides whether you like it
or not.
Noting gives any state the right to assassinate children but Israel
will continue her terror.
jon_banquer
Nov 24, 2012, 4:52:29 PM11/24/12
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Alan refuses to accept that Arab terrorists often use and hide behind
children. Alan wants everyone to think that Israelis love to kill
innocent children.
Alan hates Jews.
jon_banquer
Nov 24, 2012, 4:56:23 PM11/24/12
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they hate us.” ... Golda Meir
David R. Birch
Nov 24, 2012, 5:15:30 PM11/24/12
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On 11/24/2012 3:02 PM, Allen Drake wrote:
> I defend no one but the innocent civilians that get caught up in all
> this hate. I think that when anyone is responsible for attacks that
> kill them they all are equally guilty. Both sides in this have their
> own terrorists. The ones that attack Israel and the Israelis that
> assassinate leaders riding around with their children in their cars.
> Hamas is a terrorist organization and must be stopped but not at the
> cost one innocent child. If I kill your children do you now have the
> right to kill mine? If you answer yes then you are no better than I.
It isn't too complicated.
> I defend no one but the innocent civilians that get caught up in all
> this hate. I think that when anyone is responsible for attacks that
> kill them they all are equally guilty. Both sides in this have their
> own terrorists. The ones that attack Israel and the Israelis that
> assassinate leaders riding around with their children in their cars.
> Hamas is a terrorist organization and must be stopped but not at the
> cost one innocent child. If I kill your children do you now have the
> right to kill mine? If you answer yes then you are no better than I.
If the countries surrounding Israel stopped using their weapons to
attack Israel, there would be no war.
If Israel stopped using its weapons to defend itself from the countries
surrounding it, there would be no Israel.
David
jon_banquer
Nov 24, 2012, 5:57:16 PM11/24/12
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who hate Jews.
John B.
Nov 24, 2012, 9:16:10 PM11/24/12
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On Sat, 24 Nov 2012 16:02:34 -0500, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
Nope, it is what you implied when you said, "and do not support
killing of any kind of civilians". That rather sounds like it is O.K.
to kill soldiers, doesn't it.
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>>The Palestinian Arabs wear civilian clothes and sneak around with
>>bombs in their briefcases and therefore it is NOT the correct thing to
>>do to kill them although they just blew up the bus that your mother
>>was riding on.
>
> I defend no one but the innocent civilians that get caught up in all
>this hate. I think that when anyone is responsible for attacks that
What "innocent Civilians"? The ones who succor and supply the
un-uniformed terrorists? That carry the pictures of the dead shaheed
and encourage others to emulate them. That chant "Israeli Die!" and do
everything in their power to encourage Hamas
>kill them they all are equally guilty. Both sides in this have their
>own terrorists. The ones that attack Israel and the Israelis that
>assassinate leaders riding around with their children in their cars.
>Hamas is a terrorist organization and must be stopped but not at the
>cost one innocent child. If I kill your children do you now have the
>right to kill mine? If you answer yes then you are no better than I.
>
I see. You are a True Believer. If someone is breaking into your house
to steal your goods, rape your wife and cut your children's throats,
you feel that is they are wearing civilian clothes it would be wrong
to stop them.
Apparently Bobby Burns had you in mind when he wrote:
"Wee, sleekit, cow'rin', tim'rous beastie,
O, what a panic's in thy breastie!
Thou need na start awa sae hasty,
Wi' bickering brattle!"
"Ode to a Mouse", Robert Burns, November, 1785
--
Cheers,
John B.
killing of any kind of civilians". That rather sounds like it is O.K.
to kill soldiers, doesn't it.
>>
>>The Palestinian Arabs wear civilian clothes and sneak around with
>>bombs in their briefcases and therefore it is NOT the correct thing to
>>do to kill them although they just blew up the bus that your mother
>>was riding on.
>
> I defend no one but the innocent civilians that get caught up in all
>this hate. I think that when anyone is responsible for attacks that
un-uniformed terrorists? That carry the pictures of the dead shaheed
and encourage others to emulate them. That chant "Israeli Die!" and do
everything in their power to encourage Hamas
>kill them they all are equally guilty. Both sides in this have their
>own terrorists. The ones that attack Israel and the Israelis that
>assassinate leaders riding around with their children in their cars.
>Hamas is a terrorist organization and must be stopped but not at the
>cost one innocent child. If I kill your children do you now have the
>right to kill mine? If you answer yes then you are no better than I.
>
to steal your goods, rape your wife and cut your children's throats,
you feel that is they are wearing civilian clothes it would be wrong
to stop them.
Apparently Bobby Burns had you in mind when he wrote:
"Wee, sleekit, cow'rin', tim'rous beastie,
O, what a panic's in thy breastie!
Thou need na start awa sae hasty,
Wi' bickering brattle!"
"Ode to a Mouse", Robert Burns, November, 1785
--
Cheers,
John B.
Allen Drake
Nov 25, 2012, 3:09:24 AM11/25/12
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You and your friends are the ones that can't understand that others
would like to see an end to the practice where no care is taken to
protect the innocents. You cry that I and other people hate your to
justify your actions.
I would never think that Israel does not have the right to self
defense or the right to exist but you refuse to accept this so you
play your hate card over and over.
You are the one that can't understand complicated things.
Allen Drake
Nov 25, 2012, 3:16:05 AM11/25/12
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On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:16:10 +0700, John B. <johnbs...@gmail.com>
The ones like the children that die by Israeli assassination.
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>>kill them they all are equally guilty. Both sides in this have their
>>own terrorists. The ones that attack Israel and the Israelis that
>>assassinate leaders riding around with their children in their cars.
>>Hamas is a terrorist organization and must be stopped but not at the
>>cost one innocent child. If I kill your children do you now have the
>>right to kill mine? If you answer yes then you are no better than I.
>>
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>I see. You are a True Believer. If someone is breaking into your house
>to steal your goods, rape your wife and cut your children's throats,
>you feel that is they are wearing civilian clothes it would be wrong
>to stop them.
You are the true hater and very twisted.
>
>Apparently Bobby Burns had you in mind when he wrote:
>"Wee, sleekit, cow'rin', tim'rous beastie,
>O, what a panic's in thy breastie!
>Thou need na start awa sae hasty,
>Wi' bickering brattle!"
>
>"Ode to a Mouse", Robert Burns, November, 1785
You are a total nut job extremist. You have to be once again to
justify your hate.
I hate Hammas and the terrorists of Israel. Not all Palestinians are
terrorists and not all Jews. Most are peaceful but are guided by their
extreme leaders.
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>>kill them they all are equally guilty. Both sides in this have their
>>own terrorists. The ones that attack Israel and the Israelis that
>>assassinate leaders riding around with their children in their cars.
>>Hamas is a terrorist organization and must be stopped but not at the
>>cost one innocent child. If I kill your children do you now have the
>>right to kill mine? If you answer yes then you are no better than I.
>>
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>I see. You are a True Believer. If someone is breaking into your house
>to steal your goods, rape your wife and cut your children's throats,
>you feel that is they are wearing civilian clothes it would be wrong
>to stop them.
>
>Apparently Bobby Burns had you in mind when he wrote:
>"Wee, sleekit, cow'rin', tim'rous beastie,
>O, what a panic's in thy breastie!
>Thou need na start awa sae hasty,
>Wi' bickering brattle!"
>
>"Ode to a Mouse", Robert Burns, November, 1785
justify your hate.
I hate Hammas and the terrorists of Israel. Not all Palestinians are
terrorists and not all Jews. Most are peaceful but are guided by their
extreme leaders.
Allen Drake
Nov 25, 2012, 3:17:48 AM11/25/12
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That you for admitting to the terror used by Israel.
RogerN
Nov 25, 2012, 5:17:49 AM11/25/12
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"Allen Drake" wrote in message
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<snip>
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>>Sorry but what you wrote is far too complicated for Allen and others
>>who hate Jews.
>
> If Israel stopped killing civilians less would dislike what they do.
>You and your friends are the ones that can't understand that others
>would like to see an end to the practice where no care is taken to
>protect the innocents. You cry that I and other people hate your to
>justify your actions.
>
> I would never think that Israel does not have the right to self
>defense or the right to exist but you refuse to accept this so you
>play your hate card over and over.
>
> You are the one that can't understand complicated things.
I think Jon sees that your reasoning is faulty and comes to a logical
>>Sorry but what you wrote is far too complicated for Allen and others
>>who hate Jews.
>
> If Israel stopped killing civilians less would dislike what they do.
>You and your friends are the ones that can't understand that others
>would like to see an end to the practice where no care is taken to
>protect the innocents. You cry that I and other people hate your to
>justify your actions.
>
> I would never think that Israel does not have the right to self
>defense or the right to exist but you refuse to accept this so you
>play your hate card over and over.
>
> You are the one that can't understand complicated things.
conclusion.
Hamas has fired, last count I heard, over 900 rockets into Israel within a
month. I seriously doubt that Israel responded after the first rocket but
when Hamas continued to launch rockets in Israel, Israel has to respond to
the cowards hiding behind civilians.
But let us apply your faulty logic to yourself. Since automobiles have
potential to kill people, if you ever attempt to drive one you should turn
yourself in for attempted murder, because you know they can kill other
people. So for you to drive a car, you are no better than someone that
points loaded guns at people and pulls the trigger, you are no better than a
terrorist. You should discontinue all things that could possibly cause the
death of someone, a former co-worker of mine got a job with a cell-phone
company and fell to his death from a tower. If you have ever used a cell
phone you should turn yourself in because of your part in his death. Also,
many have died over the years working for power companies. You using
electricity to power a PC to send messages makes you, by your warped
standards, a murderer, you need to walk to the local police and turn
yourself in for the murders, you are just as bad as the people that murdered
people intentionally.
See why normal people don't buy into your faulty logic? Hamas intends to
CAUSE civilian casualties, Israel tries to AVOID civilian casualties as much
as possible. You saying they are as bad as Hamas means you are as bad as
Hamas if you drive a car, use a cell-phone, use electricity, or use any
other things that could cause a civilian death. The logical conclusion is
you should demand you be charged with attempted murder and the murder of
people that died providing the services you use or died from car accidents.
RogerN
RogerN
Nov 25, 2012, 5:23:56 AM11/25/12
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"Allen Drake" wrote in message
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<snip>
>>What "innocent Civilians"? The ones who succor and supply the
>>un-uniformed terrorists? That carry the pictures of the dead shaheed
>>and encourage others to emulate them. That chant "Israeli Die!" and do
>>everything in their power to encourage Hamas
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> The ones like the children that die by Israeli assassination.
Are you also against the woman's right to choose to kill her unborn
>>un-uniformed terrorists? That carry the pictures of the dead shaheed
>>and encourage others to emulate them. That chant "Israeli Die!" and do
>>everything in their power to encourage Hamas
>
> The ones like the children that die by Israeli assassination.
children? The ones that die by left wing abortion doctor assassination by
the millions. Left wingers are responsible for more deaths of innocent
children than Israel is since father Abraham.
RogerN
RogerN
Nov 25, 2012, 5:31:06 AM11/25/12
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"Allen Drake" wrote in message
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<snip>
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>>Everyone is a "hater" except Alan.
>>
>>Alan refuses to accept that Arab terrorists often use and hide behind
>>children. Alan wants everyone to think that Israelis love to kill
>>innocent children.
>>
>>Alan hates Jews.
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> Your answer to keep killing children. You continue to make my point.
>That you for admitting to the terror used by Israel.
Since you object to killing children, if you voted for Obama then you are
>>Everyone is a "hater" except Alan.
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>>Alan refuses to accept that Arab terrorists often use and hide behind
>>children. Alan wants everyone to think that Israelis love to kill
>>innocent children.
>>
>>Alan hates Jews.
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> Your answer to keep killing children. You continue to make my point.
>That you for admitting to the terror used by Israel.
worse than Hamas. All that voted for Obama are guilty of Abortion murder of
innocent unborn children. The children killed in Gaza are probably in
training to become the next generation of terrorists, the cowards use them
to get sympathy from people that butcher unborn, or partially born babies in
the USA.
The USA pro-choice crowd truly is no better than Hamas.
RogerN
jon_banquer
Nov 25, 2012, 5:34:31 AM11/25/12
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On Nov 25, 12:16 am, Allen Drake <ALDr...@Spamex.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:16:10 +0700, John B. <johnbsloc...@gmail.com>
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> >>wrote:
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> >>>On Sat, 24 Nov 2012 04:03:40 -0500, Allen Drake <ALDr...@Spamex.com>
No, Allen, John B. isn't a "true hater and very twisted". You are.
You hate Jews and you refuse to admit it.
> On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:16:10 +0700, John B. <johnbsloc...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> >On Sat, 24 Nov 2012 16:02:34 -0500, Allen Drake <ALDr...@Spamex.com>
> >wrote:
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> >>On Sat, 24 Nov 2012 19:06:13 +0700, John B. <johnbsloc...@gmail.com>
> >>wrote:
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> >>>On Sat, 24 Nov 2012 04:03:40 -0500, Allen Drake <ALDr...@Spamex.com>
You hate Jews and you refuse to admit it.
jon_banquer
Nov 25, 2012, 5:41:07 AM11/25/12
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On Nov 25, 12:16 am, Allen Drake <ALDr...@Spamex.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:16:10 +0700, John B. <johnbsloc...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> >On Sat, 24 Nov 2012 16:02:34 -0500, Allen Drake <ALDr...@Spamex.com>
> >wrote:
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> >>On Sat, 24 Nov 2012 19:06:13 +0700, John B. <johnbsloc...@gmail.com>
> >>wrote:
>
> >>>On Sat, 24 Nov 2012 04:03:40 -0500, Allen Drake <ALDr...@Spamex.com>
were not the "extreme leader"(s) you falsely claim.
You know very little about Israel.
The only "nut job" in this thread is you and you're filled with hate
for Jews.
David R. Birch
Nov 25, 2012, 7:02:53 AM11/25/12
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On 11/25/2012 2:09 AM, Allen Drake wrote:
>> On Nov 24, 2:16 pm, "David R. Birch" <dbi...@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>>> On 11/24/2012 3:02 PM, Allen Drake wrote:
>>>
>>>> I defend no one but the innocent civilians that get caught up in all
>>>> this hate. I think that when anyone is responsible for attacks that
>>>> kill them they all are equally guilty. Both sides in this have their
>>>> own terrorists. The ones that attack Israel and the Israelis that
>>>> assassinate leaders riding around with their children in their cars.
>>>> Hamas is a terrorist organization and must be stopped but not at the
>>>> cost one innocent child. If I kill your children do you now have the
>>>> right to kill mine? If you answer yes then you are no better than I.
>>>
>>> It isn't too complicated.
>>>
>>> If the countries surrounding Israel stopped using their weapons to
>>> attack Israel, there would be no war.
>>>
>>> If Israel stopped using its weapons to defend itself from the countries
>>> surrounding it, there would be no Israel.
>>>
>>> David
>
>> On Nov 24, 2:16 pm, "David R. Birch" <dbi...@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>>> On 11/24/2012 3:02 PM, Allen Drake wrote:
>>>
>>>> I defend no one but the innocent civilians that get caught up in all
>>>> this hate. I think that when anyone is responsible for attacks that
>>>> kill them they all are equally guilty. Both sides in this have their
>>>> own terrorists. The ones that attack Israel and the Israelis that
>>>> assassinate leaders riding around with their children in their cars.
>>>> Hamas is a terrorist organization and must be stopped but not at the
>>>> cost one innocent child. If I kill your children do you now have the
>>>> right to kill mine? If you answer yes then you are no better than I.
>>>
>>> It isn't too complicated.
>>>
>>> If the countries surrounding Israel stopped using their weapons to
>>> attack Israel, there would be no war.
>>>
>>> If Israel stopped using its weapons to defend itself from the countries
>>> surrounding it, there would be no Israel.
>>>
>>> David
>
> If Israel stopped killing civilians less would dislike what they do.
> You and your friends are the ones that can't understand that others
> would like to see an end to the practice where no care is taken to
> protect the innocents. You cry that I and other people hate your to
> justify your actions.
>
> I would never think that Israel does not have the right to self
> defense or the right to exist but you refuse to accept this so you
> play your hate card over and over.
>
> You are the one that can't understand complicated things.
Lets try again:
> You and your friends are the ones that can't understand that others
> would like to see an end to the practice where no care is taken to
> protect the innocents. You cry that I and other people hate your to
> justify your actions.
>
> I would never think that Israel does not have the right to self
> defense or the right to exist but you refuse to accept this so you
> play your hate card over and over.
>
> You are the one that can't understand complicated things.
1) Hamas places a rocket launcher near a school, hospital or residential
area.
2) Hamas launches rockets into Israel without regard for where they may
land, military or civilian, school yard, hospital, temple or mosque.
Intended target: wherever the rocket lands. There may be civilian and
occasional military casualties.
3) Israel responds with a targeted strike against launcher and/or known
Hamas facilities.
Intended target: a specific building, car or launch site. Because of
the fact that Hamas has chosen to site the launcher and their facilities
near schools, hospitals or residential areas, there are military and may
be occasional civilian casualties.
So you feel that Hamas is OK because they don't care what they hit or
who they kill, as long as they're Israeli.
And Israel is evil because they target Hamas specifically with
occasional civilian casualties.
Did I miss anything?
David
John B.
Nov 25, 2012, 7:43:25 AM11/25/12
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On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 03:09:24 -0500, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
wrote:
I already asked you about the innocents, remember? The innocents that
feed and supply the civilian clothed Palestinian terrorists; those who
parade the pictures of the Shahid and chanted their enthusiasm when
the Twin Towers came down; the Imams who shout terrorism in the
Mosques; the businessmen who contribute to Hamas to buy the armament.
But you didn't answer, did you.
I certainly hate to be the one who tells you but it isn't only the
Israelis who are hated. the good old U.S. is right there running in
harness with them. In fact, I blush to say it, but the good old U.S.
is fairly resound dislikes practically everywhere. The Middle
Easterners certainly dislike us for aiding and abetting the Jews, but
the Iraqis dislike us for even more personal reasons. I suspect that
the Pakis are a bit distraught at the drone attacks; The Afghans don't
like any foreigners and large a number of them see no reason not to
include America.. The US is known to have overthrown the
democratically elected government of Prime Minister Mohammed
Mossadegh[, in 1952. Even in a country that benefits greatly from the
tourist trade "StupidAmerican" is considered to be one word.
> I would never think that Israel does not have the right to self
>defense or the right to exist but you refuse to accept this so you
>play your hate card over and over.
>
What "hate card" is that? Your seeming hatred of the Israelis?
> You are the one that can't understand complicated things.
Ha, having no argument you now attempt to throw complexity into the
equation.
So tell us oh great pundit, what are these complex subjects? Explain
so that the laity can understand.
I suggest that the only complexity is that you really are a wee
timorous mousie.
--
Cheers,
John B.
wrote:
feed and supply the civilian clothed Palestinian terrorists; those who
parade the pictures of the Shahid and chanted their enthusiasm when
the Twin Towers came down; the Imams who shout terrorism in the
Mosques; the businessmen who contribute to Hamas to buy the armament.
But you didn't answer, did you.
I certainly hate to be the one who tells you but it isn't only the
Israelis who are hated. the good old U.S. is right there running in
harness with them. In fact, I blush to say it, but the good old U.S.
is fairly resound dislikes practically everywhere. The Middle
Easterners certainly dislike us for aiding and abetting the Jews, but
the Iraqis dislike us for even more personal reasons. I suspect that
the Pakis are a bit distraught at the drone attacks; The Afghans don't
like any foreigners and large a number of them see no reason not to
include America.. The US is known to have overthrown the
democratically elected government of Prime Minister Mohammed
Mossadegh[, in 1952. Even in a country that benefits greatly from the
tourist trade "StupidAmerican" is considered to be one word.
> I would never think that Israel does not have the right to self
>defense or the right to exist but you refuse to accept this so you
>play your hate card over and over.
>
> You are the one that can't understand complicated things.
equation.
So tell us oh great pundit, what are these complex subjects? Explain
so that the laity can understand.
I suggest that the only complexity is that you really are a wee
timorous mousie.
--
Cheers,
John B.
John B.
Nov 25, 2012, 7:58:24 AM11/25/12
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On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 03:16:05 -0500, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
Lets see. Assassination - You mean that the Israelis are your there
killing Arab kids like the Arabs have been kill Jewish kids? That
isn't assassination you silly berk, that is justice.
someone who can't face reality.
I asked before and you declined to answer. What would you do to
someone who blew up the bus your wife and kids were on; or bombed the
restaurant where your Mom and Dad were having their anniversary supper
in?
And you didn't answer,.
> I hate Hammas and the terrorists of Israel. Not all Palestinians are
>terrorists and not all Jews. Most are peaceful but are guided by their
>extreme leaders.
>
>
And how would you know? You have lived in Palestine? Israel? Or is
something that you read in a magazine?
--
Cheers,
John B.
killing Arab kids like the Arabs have been kill Jewish kids? That
isn't assassination you silly berk, that is justice.
>
>>
>>>kill them they all are equally guilty. Both sides in this have their
>>>own terrorists. The ones that attack Israel and the Israelis that
>>>assassinate leaders riding around with their children in their cars.
>>>Hamas is a terrorist organization and must be stopped but not at the
>>>cost one innocent child. If I kill your children do you now have the
>>>right to kill mine? If you answer yes then you are no better than I.
>>>
>>
>>I see. You are a True Believer. If someone is breaking into your house
>>to steal your goods, rape your wife and cut your children's throats,
>>you feel that is they are wearing civilian clothes it would be wrong
>>to stop them.
>
> You are the true hater and very twisted.
>
>>
>>Apparently Bobby Burns had you in mind when he wrote:
>>"Wee, sleekit, cow'rin', tim'rous beastie,
>>O, what a panic's in thy breastie!
>>Thou need na start awa sae hasty,
>>Wi' bickering brattle!"
>>
>>"Ode to a Mouse", Robert Burns, November, 1785
>
> You are a total nut job extremist. You have to be once again to
>justify your hate.
What hate? I haven't expressed any hate. Disdain, yes. Disdain for
>>
>>>kill them they all are equally guilty. Both sides in this have their
>>>own terrorists. The ones that attack Israel and the Israelis that
>>>assassinate leaders riding around with their children in their cars.
>>>Hamas is a terrorist organization and must be stopped but not at the
>>>cost one innocent child. If I kill your children do you now have the
>>>right to kill mine? If you answer yes then you are no better than I.
>>>
>>
>>I see. You are a True Believer. If someone is breaking into your house
>>to steal your goods, rape your wife and cut your children's throats,
>>you feel that is they are wearing civilian clothes it would be wrong
>>to stop them.
>
> You are the true hater and very twisted.
>
>>
>>Apparently Bobby Burns had you in mind when he wrote:
>>"Wee, sleekit, cow'rin', tim'rous beastie,
>>O, what a panic's in thy breastie!
>>Thou need na start awa sae hasty,
>>Wi' bickering brattle!"
>>
>>"Ode to a Mouse", Robert Burns, November, 1785
>
> You are a total nut job extremist. You have to be once again to
>justify your hate.
someone who can't face reality.
I asked before and you declined to answer. What would you do to
someone who blew up the bus your wife and kids were on; or bombed the
restaurant where your Mom and Dad were having their anniversary supper
in?
And you didn't answer,.
> I hate Hammas and the terrorists of Israel. Not all Palestinians are
>terrorists and not all Jews. Most are peaceful but are guided by their
>extreme leaders.
>
>
something that you read in a magazine?
--
Cheers,
John B.
John B.
Nov 25, 2012, 8:04:47 AM11/25/12
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On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 03:17:48 -0500, Allen Drake <ALD...@Spamex.com>
In the past 10 years there have been 18,000 Moslem terrorist attacks.
Now tell me, there have been how many Jewish?
--
Cheers,
John B.
Now tell me, there have been how many Jewish?
--
Cheers,
John B.
Gunner
Nov 25, 2012, 9:18:14 PM11/25/12
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On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 20:04:47 +0700, John B. <johnbs...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Id love to hear that answer as well.
I do hope he responds. Though I doubt he will.
Leftwingers...they are evil treacherous and mentally ill.
wrote:
I do hope he responds. Though I doubt he will.
Leftwingers...they are evil treacherous and mentally ill.
Gunner
Nov 25, 2012, 9:20:42 PM11/25/12
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On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 06:02:53 -0600, "David R. Birch"
Only his Nazi like anti-semitism.
J. Clarke
Nov 26, 2012, 12:13:55 AM11/26/12
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In article <47k3b891ur25k5jep...@4ax.com>,
ALD...@Spamex.com says...
If your oh, so courageous Muslim freedom fighters would quit using
civilians then Israel would not have to shoot through them to get the
people who are shooting at them.
It is Hamas that is killing the civilians by using them as human
shields. But you are so blinded with hatred that you will never see
that.
ALD...@Spamex.com says...
civilians then Israel would not have to shoot through them to get the
people who are shooting at them.
It is Hamas that is killing the civilians by using them as human
shields. But you are so blinded with hatred that you will never see
that.
John B.
Nov 26, 2012, 6:29:03 AM11/26/12
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On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 18:18:14 -0800, Gunner <gunne...@gmail.com>
I'm sort of waiting for him. You see, as I mentioned, those consist of
Muslim Terrorism during the past (approximately) 10 years. One of the
lists I have goes back to the 1960's, but Muslim acts of terror
against Jews seems to date back to AD 627, when Muhammad moved to
eliminate the last remaining Jewish tribe from Medina. The men of the
Qurayza tribe were beheaded and the children and women sold into
slavery. The tribe ceased to exist.
>The methodology of the left has always been:
>
>1. Lie
>2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
>3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
>4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
>5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
>6. Then everyone must conform to the lie
--
Cheers,
John B.
Muslim Terrorism during the past (approximately) 10 years. One of the
lists I have goes back to the 1960's, but Muslim acts of terror
against Jews seems to date back to AD 627, when Muhammad moved to
eliminate the last remaining Jewish tribe from Medina. The men of the
Qurayza tribe were beheaded and the children and women sold into
slavery. The tribe ceased to exist.
>The methodology of the left has always been:
>
>1. Lie
>2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
>3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
>4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
>5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
>6. Then everyone must conform to the lie
Cheers,
John B.
Phil Kangas
Nov 26, 2012, 4:33:02 PM11/26/12
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>Why such difficulty in understanding?
>Hamas is starting the fight, Israel
>is fighting back to protect themselves.
>Hamas says Israel does not have the
>right to exist, nothing about expanding
>borders, exist! So Hamas starts the
>fight, when Israel hits back, Hamas
>fakes extra women and children
>fatalities to get suckers like you. There
>are some real civilian
>casualties, these are all caused by Hamas
>in one way or another, either by
>Hamas launching rockets at civilian areas
>or Hamas launching their attacks
>and stashing their rockets in civilian homes
>and schools. See, they want it
>to cause civilian casualties if Israel tries to
>fight back, only the most
>evil life forms in the universe would fall for
>their obvious BS. Like Jesus
>said of your kind, you hate truth and love lies.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8f3_1353859170
jon_banquer
Nov 26, 2012, 6:15:21 PM11/26/12
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Tom Gardner
Nov 26, 2012, 6:43:43 PM11/26/12
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hate. Nothing will alleviate his hate. I wonder, just what causes the
irrational hate of the Jooz? Was this guy just taught to hate or did he
achieve hate on his own. I'll bet he was told to hate Jooz! He has no
idea of history or current events.
Tom Gardner
Nov 26, 2012, 6:51:54 PM11/26/12
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On 11/24/2012 4:14 AM, Allen Drake wrote:
>
> On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 20:01:30 -0500, Tom Gardner <Mars@Tacks> wrote:
>
>> On 11/22/2012 5:15 PM, Allen Drake wrote:
>>> On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 10:55:49 -0600, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net>
>>>>>>> What about "illegal" settlements? Do you think there is no
>>>>>>> "occupation" or "illegal" settlements? The terrorists acts of both
>>>>>>> sides did not evolve in such a simple world you seem to exists in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are no legal or illegal Joo settlements in Gaza. Damn! So much
>>>>>> for that excuse, we have to find another reason to slaughter them
>>>>>> fuckin' Jooz! I know, we'll spread lioes and anti-Joo propaganda..YEA,
>>>>>> YEA! Kill da Jooz! Kill da Jooz! Kill da Jooz! Kill da Jooz!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Man you are one nut job. This is about all the issues not just Gaza.
>>>>> The most recent are the assignations of children. Maybe you can stop
>>>>> your crazy drooling and spitting and get a grip long enough to look
>>>>> beyond your sickness and admit that terrorist acts by anyone are
>>>>> wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Israel gets attacked by Arabs, they kick the crap out of the Arabs and gain
>>>> land. The Arabs want the land back, the land they lost because of the fight
>>>> they started with their peaceful neighbor Israel.
>>>>
>>>> Here's the difference since you are purposely blind to see it:
>>>>
>>>> http://townhall.com/columnists/jeffjacoby/2012/11/22/a_vast_moral_difference
>>>> "Palestinians have a fierce new song to accompany their intensified conflict
>>>> with Israel. "Strike a Blow at Tel Aviv," recorded by Shadi al-Bourini and
>>>> Qassem al-Najjar, was posted last week on various Palestinian websites,
>>>> including the Facebook page of the TV show Fenjan Al-Balad, which describes
>>>> its mission as "trying to influence young Palestinian society for the
>>>> better." The video, which features images of wounded Israelis and massed
>>>> Qassam artillery rockets, opens with these lines:
>>>>
>>>> Strike a blow at Tel Aviv.
>>>>
>>>> Strike a blow at Tel Aviv.
>>>>
>>>> Strike a blow at Tel Aviv and frighten the Zionists.
>>>>
>>>> The more you build it, the more we will destroy it.
>>>>
>>>> Strike a blow at Tel Aviv.
>>>>
>>>> Over a driving beat, the lyrics (translated by the Middle East Media
>>>> Research Institute) grow increasingly bellicose. "We don't want no truce or
>>>> bargain," they proclaim. They exhort the missiles to "explode in the
>>>> Knesset" and "terrorize Tel Aviv," while mocking the Israelis in bomb
>>>> shelters who "cower with fear."
>> "Endlessly expanding their borders". Tell us about illegal settlements?
>> Where are they? Since you're not blind, what excuse DO you have for
>> hating Jooz so much that you lie and lie and lie?
>
> Yes, the whole world is against you. Everyone hates you don't they.
> Israel has a policy that says they will continue to expand their
> borders due to "natural" growth. Do you deny this?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settlement
>
> I guess Wikipedia hates you too and all this are lies by your beloved
> "Joo" haters club.
>
> I feel very sorry for people like you. You must be really miserable
> hating the way you do.
>
>
>
What a pile of horse shit you spew.
>
> On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 20:01:30 -0500, Tom Gardner <Mars@Tacks> wrote:
>
>> On 11/22/2012 5:15 PM, Allen Drake wrote:
>>> On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 10:55:49 -0600, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Allen Drake" wrote in message
>>>> news:1enra85gf1pu1cd46...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>> "Allen Drake" wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 22:21:59 -0500, Tom Gardner <Mars@Tacks> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>> Are you serious? What do you think the meaning of "occupation" is?
>>>>> On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 22:21:59 -0500, Tom Gardner <Mars@Tacks> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>> What about "illegal" settlements? Do you think there is no
>>>>>>> "occupation" or "illegal" settlements? The terrorists acts of both
>>>>>>> sides did not evolve in such a simple world you seem to exists in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are no legal or illegal Joo settlements in Gaza. Damn! So much
>>>>>> for that excuse, we have to find another reason to slaughter them
>>>>>> fuckin' Jooz! I know, we'll spread lioes and anti-Joo propaganda..YEA,
>>>>>> YEA! Kill da Jooz! Kill da Jooz! Kill da Jooz! Kill da Jooz!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Man you are one nut job. This is about all the issues not just Gaza.
>>>>> The most recent are the assignations of children. Maybe you can stop
>>>>> your crazy drooling and spitting and get a grip long enough to look
>>>>> beyond your sickness and admit that terrorist acts by anyone are
>>>>> wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Israel gets attacked by Arabs, they kick the crap out of the Arabs and gain
>>>> land. The Arabs want the land back, the land they lost because of the fight
>>>> they started with their peaceful neighbor Israel.
>>>>
>>>> Here's the difference since you are purposely blind to see it:
>>>>
>>>> http://townhall.com/columnists/jeffjacoby/2012/11/22/a_vast_moral_difference
>>>> "Palestinians have a fierce new song to accompany their intensified conflict
>>>> with Israel. "Strike a Blow at Tel Aviv," recorded by Shadi al-Bourini and
>>>> Qassem al-Najjar, was posted last week on various Palestinian websites,
>>>> including the Facebook page of the TV show Fenjan Al-Balad, which describes
>>>> its mission as "trying to influence young Palestinian society for the
>>>> better." The video, which features images of wounded Israelis and massed
>>>> Qassam artillery rockets, opens with these lines:
>>>>
>>>> Strike a blow at Tel Aviv.
>>>>
>>>> Strike a blow at Tel Aviv.
>>>>
>>>> Strike a blow at Tel Aviv and frighten the Zionists.
>>>>
>>>> The more you build it, the more we will destroy it.
>>>>
>>>> Strike a blow at Tel Aviv.
>>>>
>>>> Over a driving beat, the lyrics (translated by the Middle East Media
>>>> Research Institute) grow increasingly bellicose. "We don't want no truce or
>>>> bargain," they proclaim. They exhort the missiles to "explode in the
>>>> Knesset" and "terrorize Tel Aviv," while mocking the Israelis in bomb
>>>> shelters who "cower with fear."
>>>>
>>>> There have been many Israeli war songs over the years. Indeed, the endless
>>>> conflict with the Arabs has engendered some of Israel's most enduring music.re are
>>>> There have been many Israeli war songs over the years. Indeed, the endless
>>>> But most of it revolves around a longing for peace and the desire for
>>>> normality. An Israeli equivalent of "Strike a Blow at Tel Aviv," ecstatic at
>>>> the prospect of killing the enemy, is virtually unthinkable."
>>>>
>>>> RogerN
>>>>
>>> I am not blind to anything. Terrorists attack each other from both
>>> sides. Nothing new here. The only thing that is different from there
>>> and the rest of the world is one side thinks they have the right to
>>> endlessly expand their borders and continue to build illegal
>>> settlements. Only one side has ignored the UN more than any other
>>> country in the world.
>>>
>>
>> The UN is one big anti-Joo club. (you should join!) Please explain
>>>> normality. An Israeli equivalent of "Strike a Blow at Tel Aviv," ecstatic at
>>>> the prospect of killing the enemy, is virtually unthinkable."
>>>>
>>>> RogerN
>>>>
>>> I am not blind to anything. Terrorists attack each other from both
>>> sides. Nothing new here. The only thing that is different from there
>>> and the rest of the world is one side thinks they have the right to
>>> endlessly expand their borders and continue to build illegal
>>> settlements. Only one side has ignored the UN more than any other
>>> country in the world.
>>>
>>
>> "Endlessly expanding their borders". Tell us about illegal settlements?
>> Where are they? Since you're not blind, what excuse DO you have for
>> hating Jooz so much that you lie and lie and lie?
>
> Yes, the whole world is against you. Everyone hates you don't they.
> Israel has a policy that says they will continue to expand their
> borders due to "natural" growth. Do you deny this?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settlement
>
> I guess Wikipedia hates you too and all this are lies by your beloved
> "Joo" haters club.
>
> I feel very sorry for people like you. You must be really miserable
> hating the way you do.
>
>
>
What a pile of horse shit you spew.
Tom Gardner
Nov 26, 2012, 6:53:16 PM11/26/12
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On 11/24/2012 4:17 AM, Allen Drake wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 20:11:14 -0500, Tom Gardner <Mars@Tacks> wrote:
>
>> On 11/22/2012 3:17 AM, Allen Drake wrote:
>>> On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 22:17:40 -0500, Tom Gardner <Mars@Tacks> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/20/2012 3:45 AM, Allen Drake wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 17:24:13 -0600, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 19:40:17 -0600, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The ones that attack them do so from civilian homes, schools, etc. Israel
>>>>>>>> tries to limit civilian casualties, their attackers try to make civilian
>>>>>>>> casualties. See the difference? Israel tries not to, Hamas tries to
>>>>>>>> cause
>>>>>>>> civilian casualties. Hamas fires rockets at Israeli area not caring if
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> hit civilians or whatever, Israel targets Hamas that are hiding in
>>>>>>>> civilian
>>>>>>>> areas. They do this to get stupid people thinking Israel is just as bad
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> Hamas. Only a daffy duck like yourself could be so stupid not to see the
>>>>>>>> difference and believe the terrorists obvious deception.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> RogerN
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is no difference. Shells fired from battle ships can not be done
>>>>>>> so with care. There are no unpopulated areas. There are no places to
>>>>>>> hide other than the shelters that only Israel has. If they want to
>>>>>>> assassinate someone they should find a better way PERIOD. They are
>>>>>>> both terrorists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's see, Hamas tries to cause civilian casualties, Israel tries to avoid
>>>>>> civilian casualties. You can't see the difference? Hamas likes people like
>>>>>> you, it helps their propaganda war.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some of the Gaza casualties shown are from Syria, there was a man being
>>>>>> carried, not moving, but no blood, people assume he's dead, then in a later
>>>>>> video the same man is seen walking around fine. Then there is the injured
>>>>>> child that is supposed to be in Gaza, but they accidently filmed the Israeli
>>>>>> ambulance, it was an Israeli child injured by Hamas, that Hamas tried to
>>>>>> claim was caused by Israeli's.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So Hamas tries to find fools to believe their propaganda war and they found
>>>>>> you. Why is it liberals can't see the difference in Hamas trying to cause
>>>>>> civilian casualties and Israel trying to avoid civilian casualties? Israel
>>>>>> has been trying to use precision strikes to fight Hamas (who hide behind
>>>>>> women and children).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RogerN
>>>>>>
>>>>> They are both terrorists as much as you would like to think one side
>>>>> is not. If you mean that shelling from a ship is "avoiding"
>>>>> causalities then you are the tool. Everything you have just posted
>>>>> shows this to be true.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You tell 'em Allan! All's fair when you hate them fukin' Jooz as much
>>>> as you do!
>>>
>>> I don't hate anyone. You are one sick puppy. Tell me how much you
>>> like killing. This is really why you are in this thread, isn't it?
>>>
>>
>> I only hate Joo haters...sleep well!
>
> Maybe you could show that list. I bet it's quite long. :)
>
You and....hmmm....just you.
> On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 20:11:14 -0500, Tom Gardner <Mars@Tacks> wrote:
>
>> On 11/22/2012 3:17 AM, Allen Drake wrote:
>>> On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 22:17:40 -0500, Tom Gardner <Mars@Tacks> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/20/2012 3:45 AM, Allen Drake wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 17:24:13 -0600, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Allen Drake" wrote in message
>>>>>> news:c0sja8d35p6dfsdem...@4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Allen Drake" wrote in message
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 19:40:17 -0600, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The ones that attack them do so from civilian homes, schools, etc. Israel
>>>>>>>> tries to limit civilian casualties, their attackers try to make civilian
>>>>>>>> casualties. See the difference? Israel tries not to, Hamas tries to
>>>>>>>> cause
>>>>>>>> civilian casualties. Hamas fires rockets at Israeli area not caring if
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> hit civilians or whatever, Israel targets Hamas that are hiding in
>>>>>>>> civilian
>>>>>>>> areas. They do this to get stupid people thinking Israel is just as bad
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> Hamas. Only a daffy duck like yourself could be so stupid not to see the
>>>>>>>> difference and believe the terrorists obvious deception.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> RogerN
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is no difference. Shells fired from battle ships can not be done
>>>>>>> so with care. There are no unpopulated areas. There are no places to
>>>>>>> hide other than the shelters that only Israel has. If they want to
>>>>>>> assassinate someone they should find a better way PERIOD. They are
>>>>>>> both terrorists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's see, Hamas tries to cause civilian casualties, Israel tries to avoid
>>>>>> civilian casualties. You can't see the difference? Hamas likes people like
>>>>>> you, it helps their propaganda war.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some of the Gaza casualties shown are from Syria, there was a man being
>>>>>> carried, not moving, but no blood, people assume he's dead, then in a later
>>>>>> video the same man is seen walking around fine. Then there is the injured
>>>>>> child that is supposed to be in Gaza, but they accidently filmed the Israeli
>>>>>> ambulance, it was an Israeli child injured by Hamas, that Hamas tried to
>>>>>> claim was caused by Israeli's.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So Hamas tries to find fools to believe their propaganda war and they found
>>>>>> you. Why is it liberals can't see the difference in Hamas trying to cause
>>>>>> civilian casualties and Israel trying to avoid civilian casualties? Israel
>>>>>> has been trying to use precision strikes to fight Hamas (who hide behind
>>>>>> women and children).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RogerN
>>>>>>
>>>>> They are both terrorists as much as you would like to think one side
>>>>> is not. If you mean that shelling from a ship is "avoiding"
>>>>> causalities then you are the tool. Everything you have just posted
>>>>> shows this to be true.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You tell 'em Allan! All's fair when you hate them fukin' Jooz as much
>>>> as you do!
>>>
>>> I don't hate anyone. You are one sick puppy. Tell me how much you
>>> like killing. This is really why you are in this thread, isn't it?
>>>
>>
>> I only hate Joo haters...sleep well!
>
> Maybe you could show that list. I bet it's quite long. :)
>
You and....hmmm....just you.
jon_banquer
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On Nov 16 2012, 2:17 pm, jon_banquer <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/cka8hqg
Allen Drake thinks he can run away and continue to hide from his hate
for Jews. He can't.
> http://tinyurl.com/cka8hqg
Allen Drake thinks he can run away and continue to hide from his hate
for Jews. He can't.
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