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Ignoramus30285

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Jan 7, 2010, 9:15:39 PM1/7/10
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Wes, is the motor on your lathe 1800 RPM or 3600 RPM?

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Wes

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Jan 7, 2010, 9:36:40 PM1/7/10
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Ignoramus30285 <ignoram...@NOSPAM.30285.invalid> wrote:

>Wes, is the motor on your lathe 1800 RPM or 3600 RPM?
>
>i


I tried to make detail of the data plate in the one photo I have, it looks like 1800 but I
would not swear to it.

Wes
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Wes

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Jan 7, 2010, 10:10:40 PM1/7/10
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Ignoramus30285 <ignoram...@NOSPAM.30285.invalid> wrote:

>Wes, is the motor on your lathe 1800 RPM or 3600 RPM?
>
>i

I'll try to remember to bring home a mirror to see if I can view the data plate tomorrow.
Why are you wondering if I may be as bold to ask?

Ignoramus30285

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Jan 7, 2010, 11:22:23 PM1/7/10
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On 2010-01-08, Wes <clu...@lycos.com> wrote:
> Ignoramus30285 <ignoram...@NOSPAM.30285.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Wes, is the motor on your lathe 1800 RPM or 3600 RPM?
>>
>>i
>
> I'll try to remember to bring home a mirror to see if I can view the data plate tomorrow.
> Why are you wondering if I may be as bold to ask?

Thanks Wes.

I am just thinking about the lathe, a possibility that the hydraulic
drive has issues, and VFD conversion. I have a 5 HP inverter duty
motor.

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RoyJ

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Jan 8, 2010, 11:09:17 AM1/8/10
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I've got to get one of the hand held, non contact photo tachometers:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=66632
$40 regular price.

Wes

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Jan 8, 2010, 6:01:30 PM1/8/10
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RoyJ <spam...@microsoft.net> wrote:


>Ignoramus30285 wrote:
>> On 2010-01-08, Wes <clu...@lycos.com> wrote:
>>> Ignoramus30285 <ignoram...@NOSPAM.30285.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wes, is the motor on your lathe 1800 RPM or 3600 RPM?
>>>>
>>>> i
>>> I'll try to remember to bring home a mirror to see if I can view the data plate tomorrow.
>>> Why are you wondering if I may be as bold to ask?
>>
>> Thanks Wes.
>>
>> I am just thinking about the lathe, a possibility that the hydraulic
>> drive has issues, and VFD conversion. I have a 5 HP inverter duty
>> motor.
>>
>> i

>I've got to get one of the hand held, non contact photo tachometers:
>http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=66632
>$40 regular price.
>

I'm ordering one of those. I'm not totally sure how close my hydraulic speed lever
graduations matches actual speed.

Iggy, sorry, forgot the mirror tonight. I also owe you a measurement on the 4 1/2T to 5C
adaptor. I'll do it tomorrow.

Ignoramus8952

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Jan 8, 2010, 6:00:55 PM1/8/10
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On 2010-01-08, Wes <clu...@lycos.com> wrote:
> RoyJ <spam...@microsoft.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Ignoramus30285 wrote:
>>> On 2010-01-08, Wes <clu...@lycos.com> wrote:
>>>> Ignoramus30285 <ignoram...@NOSPAM.30285.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Wes, is the motor on your lathe 1800 RPM or 3600 RPM?
>>>>>
>>>>> i
>>>> I'll try to remember to bring home a mirror to see if I can view the data plate tomorrow.
>>>> Why are you wondering if I may be as bold to ask?
>>>
>>> Thanks Wes.
>>>
>>> I am just thinking about the lathe, a possibility that the hydraulic
>>> drive has issues, and VFD conversion. I have a 5 HP inverter duty
>>> motor.
>>>
>>> i
>
>>I've got to get one of the hand held, non contact photo tachometers:
>>http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=66632
>>$40 regular price.
>>
>
> I'm ordering one of those. I'm not totally sure how close my hydraulic speed lever
> graduations matches actual speed.
>
> Iggy, sorry, forgot the mirror tonight. I also owe you a measurement on the 4 1/2T to 5C
> adaptor. I'll do it tomorrow.
>

Wes, no problem, I did not want to make trouble, just to find out if
you already know.

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Wes

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Jan 8, 2010, 6:12:54 PM1/8/10
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RoyJ <spam...@microsoft.net> wrote:

>I've got to get one of the hand held, non contact photo tachometers:
>http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=66632
>$40 regular price.

Did a google search, ordered this one from Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Professional-Digital-Laser-Non-Contact-Tachometer/dp/B000I5LDVC/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

It was cheaper. I picked free shipping so it will be about 10 days before I can give a
report.

Wes

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Jan 8, 2010, 6:15:13 PM1/8/10
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Ignoramus8952 <ignora...@NOSPAM.8952.invalid> wrote:

>> Iggy, sorry, forgot the mirror tonight. I also owe you a measurement on the 4 1/2T to 5C
>> adaptor. I'll do it tomorrow.
>>
>
>Wes, no problem, I did not want to make trouble, just to find out if
>you already know.
>
>i


I sent a email to work to remind me tomorrow to bring home the mirror. It is not a
problem.

Wes

Wes

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Jan 9, 2010, 4:58:56 PM1/9/10
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On Fri, 08 Jan 2010 17:00:55 -0600, Ignoramus8952
<ignora...@NOSPAM.8952.invalid> wrote:

>> Iggy, sorry, forgot the mirror tonight. I also owe you a measurement on the 4 1/2T to 5C
>> adaptor. I'll do it tomorrow.
>>
>
>Wes, no problem, I did not want to make trouble, just to find out if
>you already know.
>
>i

I checked the motor data plate. 1800 rpm.

On that adaptor, I measured mine, the one I pointed you to matches his
numbers within the limitations of measuring with calipers.

Wes

Ignoramus25895

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Jan 9, 2010, 6:26:14 PM1/9/10
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Thanks a lot Wes, I asked the seller what is on the inside of this. I
hop ethat it is what I need. Great find. Thanks a lot.

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Wes

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Jan 9, 2010, 7:00:53 PM1/9/10
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Ignoramus25895 <ignoram...@NOSPAM.25895.invalid> wrote:

>Thanks a lot Wes, I asked the seller what is on the inside of this. I

>hope that it is what I need. Great find. Thanks a lot.

Glad to help out.

Wes

Ignoramus25895

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Jan 9, 2010, 8:06:13 PM1/9/10
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He told me it is a 5C collet adaptor. (which kind of is what the
auction says :)

I would need a collet closer to use it.

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Wes

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Jan 10, 2010, 9:29:59 AM1/10/10
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Ignoramus25895 <ignoram...@NOSPAM.25895.invalid> wrote:


You make one :)

Draw tube 4130 1 3/8" .095 wall aircraftspruce.com pn 03-08500-1 $9.96

5909K39
CAGE ASSEMBLY FOR 1-3/8"SHAFT DIAMETER, 2-1/16" OD, STEEL THRUST NEEDLE-ROLLER BEARING
Qty 1 Price 3.48 EA

5909K66
.126" THICK WASHER FOR 1-3/8" SHAFT DIAMETER, STEEL THRUST NEEDLE-ROLLER BEARING
Qty 2 Price 8.18
If you do a lot of small diameter works, collets are great.

I have a chunk of 6061 aluminum here on my desk, I need to make the nose protector /
adaptor sleeve extractor next. This should be fun. Get to turn 3 3/4-6 threads, cut a
3 1/2" taper per foot id taper and then cut a .375 keyway using the lathe.

Dimensions for L series chucks can be found at one of my websites here:
http://www.garage-machinist.com/manuals/Collets_and_tapers/L_Series/index.html


Now I may have misread your 4.5MT to center thread. You can take a piece of round stock,
chucked up in a collet, cut a 60 degree taper on it and still screw a driver plate for al
lathe dog on your L-00 spindle. Best of both worlds.

Wes

Ignoramus27261

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Jan 10, 2010, 3:05:04 PM1/10/10
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Wes, thanks, this is good food for thought. I think that prudence
requires not buying much tooling until I get the lathe and make sure
that it is good. Once I make sure of that, though...

Do you recall what your lathe weighs?

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Wes

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Jan 10, 2010, 4:16:54 PM1/10/10
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Ignoramus27261 <ignoram...@NOSPAM.27261.invalid> wrote:

>Wes, thanks, this is good food for thought. I think that prudence
>requires not buying much tooling until I get the lathe and make sure
>that it is good. Once I make sure of that, though...

Yes, you do want to make sure it is a good one.


>
>Do you recall what your lathe weighs?

No, I don't. I brought it home on a 5x8 utility trailer that is under 2000 GVWR. You
have an additional 18" of bed over my lathe. I'd guestimate mine at 1500 lbs.
http://wess.freeshell.org/clausing_6900.jpg

http://wess.freeshell.org/usenet/rec.crafts.metalworking/DSC02978_vga.jpg

If you compare tire squat between the lathe and the mill base, it looks like a fairly
similar load.


Found old thread:
http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/showthread.php/weight-6900-series-clausing-165460.html

Wes

Brian Lawson

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Jan 11, 2010, 3:40:03 PM1/11/10
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Hey Wes,

I sent you an email at the e-ddress I see below. It bounced back with
the message:

For <clu...@lycos.com>, Site (lycos.com/209.202.254.41) said: 550
5.2.1 RACT 209.216.133.240: Mailbox is inactive: <clu...@lycos.com>

It's just a video documentary on Canadian Ice Fishing I thought you
might like, maybe 2 minutes long Do you have a limitation on file
size?

Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX


On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 16:16:54 -0500, Wes <clu...@lycos.com> wrote:

>clu...@lycos.com

Wes

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Jan 11, 2010, 5:17:12 PM1/11/10
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Brian Lawson <law...@ciaccess.com> wrote:

It is a dead account now. Lycos abandoned free email afaikt.

Is your email address above good? If so I'll email you from one I normally use.

wess (AT) wess dot mdns dot org also works.

Wes

Brian Lawson

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Jan 12, 2010, 1:22:33 PM1/12/10
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On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:17:12 -0500, Wes <clu...@lycos.com> wrote:

>Brian Lawson <law...@ciaccess.com> wrote:
>
SNIP


>
>It is a dead account now. Lycos abandoned free email afaikt.
>
>Is your email address above good? If so I'll email you from one I normally use.
>
>wess (AT) wess dot mdns dot org also works.
>
>
>
>Wes


Hey again Wes,

I'll try that, (the mdns) but if it doesn't go, no biggy but I'm off
for Cabin Fever first thing Wednesday. Back in March.

Brian

Wes

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Jan 16, 2010, 6:46:57 PM1/16/10
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Brian Lawson <law...@ciaccess.com> wrote:

>Hey again Wes,
>
>I'll try that, (the mdns) but if it doesn't go, no biggy but I'm off
>for Cabin Fever first thing Wednesday. Back in March.
>
>Brian

It worked. It was pretty funny though you may have reinforced a sterotype <VBG>. Hope
the show is a good one.

Wes

Wes

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Jan 16, 2010, 6:52:00 PM1/16/10
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Wes <clu...@lycos.com> wrote:

>RoyJ <spam...@microsoft.net> wrote:
>
>>I've got to get one of the hand held, non contact photo tachometers:
>>http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=66632
>>$40 regular price.
>
>Did a google search, ordered this one from Amazon.
>
>http://www.amazon.com/Professional-Digital-Laser-Non-Contact-Tachometer/dp/B000I5LDVC/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
>
>It was cheaper. I picked free shipping so it will be about 10 days before I can give a
>report.
>
>Wes

Well, it made it in yesterday on a day I was taking the first half of the day off. Darn
post office counter closes now at 4:00pm and I can't make it there in time due to a bridge
closure.

Anyway, I stuck a piece of reflective tape on my Clausing 6903's chuck and took readings.
I was pretty happy to see the graduations on the hydraulic speed change lever matched the
rpm readings with in a couple percent. That was in high range.

I had to get close to it because the chuck was fairly reflective and confused it at
distance. Maybe tomorrow I'll test the bridgeport.

Wes

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