Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize
Cliff
Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize
That was pretty fast.
Tossed out wingers & lying rethugs, saved
world economy, removed nukes & other weapons,
knows science exists & etc.
Just getting started I suppose.
Tell gummer <VBG>.
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Cliff
Dusty
news:obvtc5921cn9b3693...@4ax.com...
Indeed. Here's the story from Fox News..
Nominated less than two weeks into his term, eh? Gotta love Chicago
politics!
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/09/president-barack-obama-wins-nobel-peace-prize/
President Barack Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize
Stunning choice made Obama the third sitting president to win the Nobel
Peace Prize and shocked observers because Obama took office less than two
weeks before the nomination deadline
Friday, October 09, 2009
OSLO -- President Barack Obama won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize on Friday for
"his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and
cooperation between peoples," the Norwegian Nobel Committee said, citing his
outreach to the Muslim world and attempts to curb nuclear proliferation.
The stunning choice made Obama the third sitting U.S. president to win the
Nobel Peace Prize and shocked Nobel observers because Obama took office less
than two weeks before the Feb. 1 nomination deadline. Obama's name had been
mentioned in speculation before the award but many Nobel watchers believed
it was too early to award the president.
"Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the
world's attention and given its people hope for a better future," the
committee said. "His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are
to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are
shared by the majority of the world's population."
The committee said it attached special importance to Obama's vision of, and
work for, a world without nuclear weapons.
"Obama has as president created a new climate in international politics.
Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the
role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play,"
the committee said.
Theodore Roosevelt won the award in 1906 and Woodrow Wilson won in 1919.
Former President Jimmy Carter won the award in 2002, while former Vice
President Al Gore shared the 2007 prize with the U.N. panel on climate
change.
The Nobel committee received a record 205 nominations for this year's prize.
In his 1895 will, Alfred Nobel stipulated that the peace prize should go "to
the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity
between the nations and the abolition or reduction of standing armies and
the formation and spreading of peace congresses."
Unlike the other Nobel Prizes, which are awarded by Swedish institutions, he
said the peace prize should be given out by a five-member committee elected
by the Norwegian Parliament. Sweden and Norway were united under the same
crown at the time of Nobel's death.
The committee has taken a wide interpretation of Nobel's guidelines,
expanding the prize beyond peace mediation to include efforts to combat
poverty, disease and climate change.
Jeff M
>> Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize
>>
>> That was pretty fast.
>> Tossed out wingers & lying rethugs, saved
>> world economy, removed nukes & other weapons,
>> knows science exists & etc.
>>
>> Just getting started I suppose.
>> Tell gummer <VBG>.
>> --
>> Cliff
>
> Indeed. Here's the story from Fox News..
>
> Nominated less than two weeks into his term, eh? Gotta love Chicago
> politics!
Yeah, they totally own Norway.
Frank S
that. It is olny to make hime look like the best person in the
world...........BULLS*%!
"Dusty" <No....@home.org> wrote in message
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Jeff M
> HMMMM, 11 days after into his term....... someone paid a bunch of money for
> that. It is olny to make hime look like the best person in the
> world...........BULLS*%!
So it's just not possible that the Nobel committee could have made their
own decision (but the International Olympic Committee intentionally and
personally snubbed Obama)? It goes to show how much Obama has done to
restore American prestige and respect internationally, after eight
embarrassing years of Bush squandering our moral capital and destroying
our global leadership.
Personally, I don't think Obama deserves it, but the committee obviously
disagreed. Anyway, it's gonna be fun watching the Right melt down over it.
Jeff M
> In article <YJGdnQrqfNKKhVLX...@giganews.com>,
> NoS...@NoNoThanks.Org says...
Try Sweden for what? IIRC, the Nobel committee is Norwegian.
No Bammer
> http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE5981JK20091009
> Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize
The nobel prize has been a big joke for years. Examples proving this are
arafart, Queerdaffy, peanut carter, fat ass wind bag al gore etc..
RBnDFW
A lot of saliva hit the ground when that was announced.
The Nobel Prize was seriously devalued when they gave it to Carter and
Arafat <spit>
It has obviously bottomed out.
Alfred Nobel must be rolling in his grave.
I suspect the voting was very close, with BHO and Hugo Chavez in a
virtual dead heat. Idi Amin and Pol Pot were out of the running, being
dead, and also having actually accomplished something.
Jeff M
> Cliff wrote:
>> http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE5981JK20091009
>> Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize
>>
>> That was pretty fast.
>> Tossed out wingers & lying rethugs, saved
>> world economy, removed nukes & other weapons, knows science exists & etc.
>>
>> Just getting started I suppose.
>> Tell gummer <VBG>.
>
> A lot of saliva hit the ground when that was announced.
By the types inclined to spitting their tobacco juice on the floor, no
doubt. Who do you think should have won it?
lab~rat >:-)
puked:
Maybe the press misunderstood, they were giving him the NO-BALLS
prize.
--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
Klaus Schadenfreude
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say maybe someone who had
something to do with peace, or "to the person who shall have done the
most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the
abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and
promotion of peace congresses."
Take a look at someone like Jody Williams or Carlos Filipe Ximenes
Belo to get an idea.
Lewis Hartswick
It surely demonstrates their political leaning
I'm sure Arthur Nobel would be embarrassed.
:-( ...lew...
Lewis Hartswick
> The Nobel Prize was seriously devalued when they gave it to Carter and
> Arafat <spit>
>
> It has obviously bottomed out.
> Alfred Nobel must be rolling in his grave.
>
> I suspect the voting was very close, with BHO and Hugo Chavez in a
> virtual dead heat. Idi Amin and Pol Pot were out of the running, being
> dead, and also having actually accomplished something.
I love it. That puts it in very good perspective. :-)
...lew...
God'sLittleAnus
speechless and clueless now that the NOBEL is BARACK'S!
Haw!
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"Barack Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize"
By Debbi Wilgoren and Scott Wilson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, October 9, 2009 10:19 AM
President Obama was awarded the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize Friday for his
work to improve international diplomacy and rid the world of nuclear
weapons -- a stunning decision to celebrate a figure virtually unknown
in the world before he launched his campaign for the White House
nearly three years ago.
In honoring Obama, 48, the Norwegian Nobel Committee echoed a global
embrace of the U.S. president that has seen his popularity overseas
often exceed his support at home. Though Obama's name surfaced early
among contenders, the announcement astonished observers -- drawing
gasps from the audience in Oslo -- in part because Obama assumed
office less than two weeks before the Feb. 1 deadline for nominations.
The committee praised Obama for his "extraordinary efforts to
strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples"
during his nine months in office and singled out for special
recognition Obama's call for a world free of nuclear weapons, the
subject of major speech April 5 in Prague.
Heralding Obama as a transformative figure in U.S. and international
diplomacy, the committee said: "Only very rarely has a person to the
same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its
people hope for a better future. His diplomacy is founded in the
concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis
of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's
population."
Obama is the third sitting U.S. president -- and the first in 90 years
-- to win the coveted peace prize. His predecessors won during their
second White House terms, however, and after significant diplomatic
achievements. Woodrow Wilson was awarded the prize in 1919, after
helping to found the League of Nations and shaping the Treaty of
Versailles; and Theodore Roosevelt was the recipient in 1906 for his
work to negotiate an end to the Russo-Japanese war.
In contrast, Obama is struggling with two wars -- weighing whether to
increase the number of U.S. troops fighting to defeat the Taliban in
Afghanistan and overseeing the withdrawal of American combat troops
from Iraq. He is mired in domestic struggles over health-care reform
and economic recovery efforts, and searching for ways to build
momentum to restart Israeli-Palestinian peace talks and to assemble an
international effort to stop Iran's nuclear program.
In choosing Obama from among 205 nominees, the committee appeared to
be continuing its rebuke of the Bush administration's go-it-alone
approach to world bodies and alliances, including its decision to go
to war in Iraq without U.N. approval. In 2007, for example, former
vice president Al Gore won for raising awareness on global warming
after the Bush administration abandoned the Kyoto Protocol to reduce
carbon emissions, arguing it would take too great a toll on the U.S.
economy. Obama has worked to distance himself from Bush's policies
since his first day in office, abolishing the use of torture in
interrogation of terrorist suspects and promising to close the
military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, by Jan. 22, 2010.
In response to questions from reporters in Oslo, who noted that Obama
so far has made little concrete progress in achieving his lofty
agenda, committee chairman Thorbjoern Jagland said he hoped the prize
would add momentum to Obama's efforts. At the same time, Jagland said,
"We have not given the prize for what may happen in the future. We are
awarding Obama for what he has done in the past year. And we are
hoping this may contribute a little bit for what he is trying to do."
Jagland specifically cited Obama's speech about Islam in Cairo last
spring, as well as efforts to address nuclear proliferation and
climate change and use established international bodies such as the
United Nations to pursue his goals. The committee -- made up of
luminaries selected by the Norwegian government -- noted a profound
shift in U.S. policy and said Obama had "created a new climate in
international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central
position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other
international institutions can play."
The announcement did not mention Obama's status as the first black
U.S. president.
Reaction in the United States and around the globe included a degree
of amazement from across the political spectrum, followed by praise
from Obama's admirers and, often, disdain from his opponents.
In Washington, Republican National Committee Chairman Michael S.
Steele heaped scorn on the award.
"The real question Americans are asking is, 'What has President Obama
actually accomplished?' " Steele said in a statement. "It is
unfortunate that the president's star power has outshined tireless
advocates who have made real achievements working towards peace and
human rights." Obama "won't be receiving any awards from Americans for
job creation, fiscal responsibility, or backing up rhetoric with
concrete action," he added.
"Think about it, it's so post-modern: a leader can now win the peace
prize for saying that he hopes to bring about peace at some point in
the future," sniped Wall Street Journal deputy editor Iain Martin in
an online post. "He doesn't actually have to do it, he just has to
have aspirations. Brilliant."
In Israel, Gaza and the West Bank, where raised expectations about the
peace process have been followed by little tangible progress, most
political leaders were skeptical.
"We congratulate him for this," said Ahmed Yousef, deputy foreign
minister of Hamas, the Islamist group that runs Gaza and remains
isolated by the United States because of its refusal to recognize
Israel. But "we believe he has been rewarded or judged based on good
intentions towards peace but not on his achievement. It was too early
to award him. He has not done that much yet."
Danny Danon, a member of the Israeli Knesset from the ruling Likud
Party who opposed U.S. efforts to freeze construction of Jewish
settlements, also said Obama's record is thin. "This is the first time
the award is given for wishful thinking," Danon said.
But Hagit Ofran, of Israel's dovish Peace Now movement, credited Obama
for pushing Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu to endorse creation of a
Palestinian state and consider settlement curbs. "He is being
respected for his belief and determination to get things going," she
said. "It is not peace and it is not enough, but his rhetoric did
change many things."
A spokeswoman for the European Commission told reporters in Brussels
that the award "is an encouragement for engagement by all those who
can contribute to bring about a safer world."
Archbishop Desmond Tutu of South Africa, who won the prize in 1984,
said the award "speaks to the promise of President Obama's message of
hope," the Associated Press reported. Tutu said the prize is a
"wonderful recognition" of Obama's outreach to the Arab world.
Obama was awarded the prize just a week after the International
Olympic Committee rejected his personal appeal to hold the 2016 Summer
Games in his hometown of Chicago.
Jagland told reporters that Obama had not been notified in advance of
the announcement, which was made at 11 a.m. in Oslo (5 a.m. in
Washington).
Staffers working overnight in the White House Situation Room saw the
news on the wires and called press secretary Robert Gibbs, who
telephoned the executive residence just before 6 a.m. to wake Obama
and tell him.
"It's an honor, certainly nothing that anyone expected, certainly not
the president himself," senior adviser David Axelrod told MSNBC a
short time later. He said the president "is not interested in
individual honors" but that "the point is to rededicate ourselves to
the causes that the president has brought forth."
Obama and his aides have described the tenets of his foreign policy as
emphasizing "mutual interest and mutual respect" and the idea that
global diplomacy functions on the principles of "rights and
responsibilities" of sovereign nations.
He has delivered four major foreign policy addresses explaining these
themes -- his nuclear nonproliferation speech in Prague; his outreach
to the Muslim world in Cairo; his offer of U.S. support to the
developing world (tempered with a reminder that nations are
responsible for their futures) in Accra, Ghana; and his call for
global cooperation at the U.N. General Assembly last month.
At the United Nations, and in multilateral talks, Obama received
tentative support from Russia for additional sanctions against Iran if
it does not stop enriching uranium. Russia's support, which had been
sought by the Bush administration as well, is one of Obama's most
tangible achievements. He also led a United Nations discussion of ways
to combat climate change and chaired a U.N. Security Council session
in which that body unanimously approved a resolution that called for a
world without nuclear weapons.
"Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving
even the most difficult international conflicts," the committee said
in its statement announcing the award. "The USA is now playing a more
constructive role in meeting the great climatic challenges the world
is confronting. Democracy and human rights are to be strengthened."
After recent years in which the prize went to environmentalists such
as Gore, as well as luminaries in the fight against poverty, the
committee's rationale for selecting Obama seemed in some ways to
strike closer to prize's original mandate.
In his 1895 will, Alfred Nobel, founder of the award, had directed
committees selected by the Swedish president to reward "the person who
shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between the
nations and the abolition or reduction of standing armies and the
formation and spreading of peace congresses."
At the same time, environmentalists welcomed the award and said they
hoped it would spur progress at the U.N.-sponsored international
climate talks, which have stalled this year but will culminate in
Copenhagen in mid-December. In December 2007, Gore and U.N.
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Chairman Rajendra K.
Pachauri flew straight to climate talks in Bali after accepting their
peace prize, and an impassioned speech by Gore helped break a
deadlock.
"We congratulate President Obama on winning the Nobel Peace Prize,"
said Keya Chatterjee, director of climate change for the World
Wildlife Fund-U.S., adding that if Obama travels to Oslo for the
awards ceremony Dec. 10, he could follow Gore's example and head from
there to Copenhagen, where the climate talks will be underway. "We
hope that he will apply the same diplomacy skills and effort to
passing domestic legislation and achieving a global deal to address
climate change, which will bring us all a more secure and peaceful
planet," Chatterjee said.
In addition to Obama, Wilson and Roosevelt, former president Jimmy
Carter also won the peace prize. Carter was honored in 2002, more than
two decades after leaving office, for his "untiring effort to find
peaceful solutions to international conflicts, to advance democracy
and human rights, and to promote economic and social development."
[Correspondents Anthony Faiola in London and Howard Schneider in
Jerusalem, and staff writer Juliet Eilperin in Washington, contributed
to this report.]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/09/AR2009100900914.html?hpid=topnews
Gray Ghost
acb3-1d8...@g1g2000vbr.googlegroups.com:
> Republicunts and and other ignorant-racist-gun-nut-conservatives are
> speechless and clueless now that the NOBEL is BARACK'S!
>
And how did he earn it in 10 days? Nominations closed 10 days after he was
inaugarated.
A Nobel for being black just seems silly. But I'm glad you're enthused, it is
just eroding whatever respectability this one termer may have had.
Demon Buddha
Peace prize. For what? He has done NOTHING, except spend us into
perpetual poverty.
The Nobel organization no longer has any credibility whatsoever.
raamman
wrote:
> http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE5981JK20091009
> Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize
>
> That was pretty fast.
> Tossed out wingers & lying rethugs, saved
> world economy
> Cliff
economy is not saved yet- according to the guy who predicted the last
crash, the next one could be just around the corner
Buerste
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I hear OBL was the front runner.
Curly Surmudgeon
I hear that modern pharmacopia has wonderous drugs for those voices in
your head.
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tankfixer
Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says...
>
> http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE5981JK20091009
> Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize
>
> That was pretty fast.
> Tossed out wingers & lying rethugs, saved
> world economy, removed nukes & other weapons,
> knows science exists & etc.
>
I love the delusions of a leftist
Larry Jaques
<NoS...@NoNoThanks.Org> scrawled the following:
Khadaffi? It makes as much sense as Obama or Gore, doesn't it?
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Seen on a bumper sticker: ARM THE HOMELESS
Cliff
Ghost) wrote:
>"God'sLittleAnus" <perry...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:53be4696-410b-4134-
>acb3-1d8...@g1g2000vbr.googlegroups.com:
>
>> Republicunts and and other ignorant-racist-gun-nut-conservatives are
>> speechless and clueless now that the NOBEL is BARACK'S!
>>
>
>And how did he earn it in 10 days? Nominations closed 10 days after he was
>inaugarated.
Those were just nominations. They had to be in by then.
And he was already running lying wingers out of town.
(There is no prize for lying to start wars or destroying the
world's ecomomy.)
>A Nobel for being black just seems silly.
And you hate it when one gets one, right?
Just because they are smarter & better than a winger ....
>But I'm glad you're enthused, it is
>just eroding whatever respectability this one termer may have had.
The Nobel does that, does it?
--
Cliff
Cliff
>Congratulations President Obama on the Nobel Peace Prize -- Now Please Earn
>it!
>
>Friday, October 9th, 2009
>
>Dear President Obama,
>
>How outstanding that you've been recognized today as a man of peace. Your
>swift, early pronouncements -- you will close Guantanamo, you will bring
>the troops home from Iraq, you want a nuclear weapon-free world, you
>admitted to the Iranians that we overthrew their democratically-elected
>president in 1953, you made that great speech to the Islamic world in
>Cairo, you've eliminated that useless term "The War on Terror," you've put
>an end to torture -- these have all made us and the rest of the world feel
>a bit more safe considering the disaster of the past eight years. In eight
>months you have done an about face and taken this country in a much more
>sane direction.
>
>But...
>
>The irony that you have been awarded this prize on the 2nd day of the ninth
>year of our War in Afghanistan is not lost on anyone. You are truly at a
>crossroads now. You can listen to the generals and expand the war (only to
>result in a far-too-predictable defeat) or you can declare Bush's Wars
>over, and bring all the troops home. Now. That's what a true man of peace
>would do.
>
>There is nothing wrong with you doing what the last guy failed to do --
>capture the man or men responsible for the mass murder of 3,000 people on
>9/11. BUT YOU CANNOT DO THAT WITH TANKS AND TROOPS. You are pursuing a
>criminal, not an army. You do not use a stick of dynamite to get rid of a
>mouse.
>
>The Taliban is another matter. That is a problem for the people of
>Afghanistan to resolve -- just as we did in 1776, the French did in 1789,
>the Cubans did in 1959, the Nicaraguans did in 1979 and the people of East
>Berlin did in 1989. One thing is certain through all revolutions by people
>who wish to be free -- they ultimately have to bring about that freedom
>themselves. Others can be supportive, but freedom can not be delivered from
>the front seat of someone else's Humvee.
>
>You have to end our involvement in Afghanistan now. If you don't, you'll
>have no choice but to return the prize to Oslo.
>
>Yours,
>Michael Moore
>MMF...@aol.com
>MichaelMoore.com
>
>P.S. Your opposition has spent the morning attacking you for bringing such
>good will to this country. Why do they hate America so much? I get the
>feeling that if you found the cure for cancer this afternoon they'd be
>denouncing you for destroying free enterprise because cancer centers would
>have to close. There are those who say you've done nothing yet to deserve
>this award. As far as I'm concerned, the very fact that you've offered to
>walk into the minefield of hate and try to undo the irreparable damage the
>last president did is not only appreciated by me and millions of others, it
>is also an act of true bravery. That's why you got the prize. The whole
>world is depending on the U.S. -- and you -- to literally save this planet.
>Let's not let them down.
Michael Moore usually has good points ....
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Cliff
Cliff
>"Cliff" <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
>news:obvtc5921cn9b3693...@4ax.com...
>> http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE5981JK20091009
>> Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize
>>
>> Cliff
>
>The honor is a "premature canonization," said Fred Greenstein, a historian
>at Princeton University. "It seems to me that it is an embarrassment for the
>Nobel process."
With all the death threats & plots from wingers & rethugs?
Don't forget that bushco said that assassination was legal no
matter what the laws are (and used it so much).
IIRC The Nobel can only be awarded to live persons.
Better early than sorry, right winger?
OTOH He had already run bushco out .... stopped the
new arms races ... probably gave Israel notice too ....
any one of which deserves the Nobel, right?
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Cliff
Cliff
wrote:
>"What has President Obama actually accomplished?" said Michael Steele,
>chairman of the Republican National Committee.
>
>"It is unfortunate that the president's star power has outshined
>tireless advocates who have made real achievements working towards peace
>and human rights."
Will any rethug ever win anything but a booby prize?
Steal, probably; but WIN?
--
Cliff
Cliff
wrote:
>But GOP Rep. Gresham Barrett, who is running for governor of South
>Carolina, mocked Obama's prize.
They have a few pretty rethug girls there, right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww
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Cliff
StarDust
Also, jew MENACHEM BEGIN, ex-Israely prime minister and ex-terrorist,
responsable for the blowing up the King
David hotel. 90 people died.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:King_david_hotel_bombing1.jpg
>>In 1942 arrived in Eretz Israel as a soldier. After demobilization, in late 1943, was appointed Irgun Chief Commander.
On February 1, 1944, the Irgun under Begin, declared a revolt against
the British in Palestine. He headed the struggle until the state of
Israel was established. During the underground years, the British
invested great effort in attempts to seize him. They offered a reward
of 5,000 pounds sterling for information, a vast sum in those days. <<
Cliff
wrote:
>Sen. Debbie Stabenow, D-Mich., chastised the GOP's Steele for his
>remarks, and noted that conservative activists had cheered when Obama
>failed last week to bring the 2016 Olympic Games to Chicago.
>
>"I find it very very disappointing for the chairman of the Republican
>Party - after the cheers that went out when America lost the Olympics -
>to now be attacking our president, everyone's president in our country,
>at a time when he is being recognized on the world stage," Stabenow
>said.
They were just so pleased that Chicago & the US were not
chosen ...
OTOH China recently was.
--
Cliff
Zymrgy
> saved world economy,
Now thats fucking funny that you are gullible enough to believe that.
Buerste
"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
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<snip>
> Khadaffi? It makes as much sense as Obama or Gore, doesn't it?
>
It would have been racist not to give the NPP to Obama. When I think of
Obama, I think of Carter, Gore and Arafat anyway, now it's official. Next
year, Ahmadinejad!!!
Ed Huntress
"Buerste" <bue...@att.net> wrote in message
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Here's one to think about, Tom.
This is a statement by the Taliban, regarding Obama winning the Nobel:
"We have seen no change in his strategy for peace. He has done nothing for
peace in Afghanistan. He has not taken a single step for peace in
Afghanistan or to make this country stable. We condemn the award of the
Noble Peace Prize for Obama. We condemn the institute's awarding him the
peace prize. We condemn this year's peace prize as unjust."
And here's the one from the Republican National Committee:
"The real question Americans are asking is, What has President Obama
actually accomplished? It is unfortunate that the president's star power has
outshined tireless advocates who have made real achievements working towards
peace and human rights. One thing is certain - President Obama won't be
receiving any awards from Americans for job creation, fiscal responsibility,
or backing up rhetoric with concrete action."
Republicans and the Taliban: two peas in a pod, eh? d8-)
--
Ed Huntress
tankfixer
Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says...
How can you tell ?
He is so round these days nothing sticks out..
Buerste
"Ed Huntress" <hunt...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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Obama's going to be the sitting American president, the most powerful man in
the world, while a nuclear Iran attacks Israel. He is impotent. Any bets?
You keep forgetting, I'm NOT a Republican.
Ed Huntress
Sure. One hundred says a "nuclear" Iran doesn't attack Israel while Obama is
in office. Are you on?
>
> You keep forgetting, I'm NOT a Republican.
I don't forget. I just thought you'd find the comparison interesting.
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Ed Huntress
John R. Carroll
I'll take some of that Ed.
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John R. Carroll
Ed Huntress
"John R. Carroll" <nu...@bidness.dev.nul> wrote in message
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Ok. Same deal for you. I should tell you, I never gamble. I only bet on sure
things. d8-)
An attack by a "nuclear" Iran would result in the surface of Iran being
turned into a glass tabletop, and they know it.
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Ed Huntress
John R. Carroll
Nor do I.
I think I probably have been misunderstood here, however.
My offer is to cover half of your C-note, not the other side.
I'll even bump it if Gardner isn't just off his meds again.
>
> An attack by a "nuclear" Iran would result in the surface of Iran
> being turned into a glass tabletop, and they know it.
They might believe that, you apparently do, but it wouldn't happen that way.
--
John R. Carroll
Buerste
Now, notice I didn't say Iran would use nukes. I go a Grant!
Buerste
Now, now...nuclear Iran attacking does not equate to nuclear attack by Iran.
And YOU are the wordsmith! I'll be less clever in the future. My intent
was not to obscure what I meant.
A nuclear Iran changes the dynamics of a counter or counter-counter attack.
And, that's my point, not to deceive or confuse with semantics. Although, a
nuke attack is well within the scope.
Buerste
"John R. Carroll" <nu...@bidness.dev.nul> wrote in message
Well John, I don't know where you get your faith, but SOMETHING is going to
happen. Israel has vowed to attack Iran's nuke stuff and they will! Iran
won't take that unanswered. Obama can't or won't stop it. It'll be a good
crisis that he won't want to waste. And sure, I'll take your $50!
Cliff
You could find no errors.
--
Cliff
John R. Carroll
> going to happen.
Sure Tom, but not that.
>Israel has vowed to attack Iran's nuke stuff
No they haven't.
> and
> they will! Iran won't take that unanswered. Obama can't or won't
> stop it. It'll be a good crisis that he won't want to waste. And
> sure, I'll take your $50!
I doubt it, but I'll pay in the event.
--
John R. Carroll
tankfixer
Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says...
Michael Moore is just one more limousine liberal who thinks he should
get to decide what is done with other peoples money.
Buerste
"John R. Carroll" <nu...@bidness.dev.nul> wrote in message
<snip>
> I doubt it, but I'll pay in the event.
>
> --
> John R. Carroll
>
>
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3787724,00.html
Cliff
Unlike rethugs & wingers who want to waste it on wars,
lies, welfare for Exxon, Enron & etc plus bailiing out
their blunders & buddies. Plus interest on their deficits
& debts.
I see.
Wars in, education, roads, health & etc out.
Good game plan.
--
Cliff
Ed Huntress
"Buerste" <bue...@wowway.com> wrote in message
news:MhaAm.74388$944....@newsfe09.iad...
Yes, I noticed that. So, they need to have a bomb, but they may or may not
use it, right? That's what I take from your use of the phrase "nuclear
Iran."
--
Ed Huntress
Ed Huntress
Just to be clear: You mean by "nuclear Iran," Iran in possession of a
nuclear bomb, correct?
--
Ed Huntress
Buerste
Chances are good that Iran already has nuclear weapons purchased from or
donated by Russia or NK. Iran is morally capable of using dirty bombs too.
And, why not, they have been given "approval" by everyone in the world. I'm
glad I'm as old as I am 'cuz this world is pretty screwed up.
If Iran closes the Straights, Russian oil will be worth a fortune. I think
they know that.
Michael Price
> RBnDFW wrote:
> > Cliff wrote:
> >> http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE5981JK20091009
> >> Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize
>
> >> That was pretty fast.
> >> Tossed out wingers & lying rethugs, saved
> >> world economy, removed nukes & other weapons, knows science exists & etc.
>
> >> Just getting started I suppose.
> >> Tell gummer <VBG>.
>
> > A lot of saliva hit the ground when that was announced.
>
> By the types inclined to spitting their tobacco juice on the floor, no
> doubt. Who do you think should have won it?
Anyone who isn't actually talking up a war at the time the prize is
announced
would be good. Hell Ron Paul deserves it more than Obama, so does
Dennis
Kucinich. They were at least against continuing the wars. Obama not
only
continues them he starts new ones.
Michael Price
> "RBnDFW" <burkhei...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:hang9e$6d1$2...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>
>
> > Cliff wrote:
> >> http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE5981JK20091009
> >> Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize
>
> >> That was pretty fast.
> >> Tossed out wingers & lying rethugs, saved
> >> world economy, removed nukes & other weapons, knows science exists & etc.
>
> >> Just getting started I suppose.
> >> Tell gummer <VBG>.
>
> > A lot of saliva hit the ground when that was announced.
>
> > Arafat <spit>
>
> > It has obviously bottomed out.
> > Alfred Nobel must be rolling in his grave.
>
> > I suspect the voting was very close, with BHO and Hugo Chavez in a virtual
> > dead heat. Idi Amin and Pol Pot were out of the running, being dead, and
> > also having actually accomplished something.
>
> I hear OBL was the front runner.
Hey he wouldn't be the worst person to win it. On strict "how many
civilians did you
order killed" criteria there are several winners including the
irrepressible Henry
Kissinger (when they made that guy they broke the mold, quite rightly)
who beat him
by a country mile.
Buerste
"missing" a large number of nukes and refined nuclear material. Google:
"missing Russian nukes" Gee, and who benefits from turmoil in the ME?
" A former top official at the Department of Energy told ABC News that
Goss's statement understated the threat. There could be enough missing
material in the Russian inventory to make hundreds or thousands of nuclear
weapons, but no one -- neither the Russians nor Western intelligence
agencies -- knows for sure, the former official said."
Michael Price
wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:21:50 -0700, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >In article <h2d2d55pj00us4uadm5ridfl7v2d6js...@4ax.com>,
> >Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says...
>
> >> On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 09:59:04 -0700, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >In article <6sn0d55i44cu3lptclsohnqeu4sa99r...@4ax.com>,
> >> >Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om says...
> >> >> >MichaelMoore.com
>
> >> >> >P.S. Your opposition has spent the morning attacking you for bringing such
> >> >> >good will to this country. Why do they hate America so much? I get the
> >> >> >feeling that if you found the cure for cancer this afternoon they'd be
> >> >> >denouncing you for destroying free enterprise because cancer centers would
> >> >> >have to close. There are those who say you've done nothing yet to deserve
> >> >> >this award. As far as I'm concerned, the very fact that you've offered to
> >> >> >walk into the minefield of hate and try to undo the irreparable damage the
> >> >> >last president did is not only appreciated by me and millions of others, it
> >> >> >is also an act of true bravery. That's why you got the prize. The whole
> >> >> >world is depending on the U.S. -- and you -- to literally save this planet.
> >> >> >Let's not let them down.
>
> >> >> Michael Moore usually has good points ....
>
> >> >How can you tell ?
> >> >He is so round these days nothing sticks out..
>
> >> Michael Moore usually has good points ....
> >> You could find no errors.
>
> >Michael Moore is just one more limousine liberal who thinks he should
> >get to decide what is done with other peoples money.
>
> Unlike rethugs & wingers who want to waste it on wars,
> lies, welfare for Exxon, Enron & etc plus bailiing out
> their blunders & buddies. Plus interest on their deficits
> & debts.
>
was right, Obama is simply a black skin into which anything that is
politically advantageous is poured in. He's a moral vacuum. The only
advantage he had was the affability of the sociopath and his colour.
John R. Carroll
" former Deputy Defense Minister Ephraim Sneh to the Sunday Times "
LOL
And John McCain ran around singing "Bomb Iran" for several years as well.
--
John R. Carroll
Ed Huntress
I find it unlikely. The fact that they're still doing design work on
Pakistani-type implosion triggers suggests that they haven't had a Russian
one to look over, or they wouldn't be wasting their time.
tankfixer
So all those are done and over now eh ?
Dear Leader solved all those problems you claim only one party caused ?
>
> I see.
> Wars in, education, roads, health & etc out.
> Good game plan.
Hey It's your guys plan...
robert bowman
> Obama spends your money on all those things. Alexander Cockburn
> was right, Obama is simply a black skin into which anything that is
> politically advantageous is poured in. He's a moral vacuum. The only
> advantage he had was the affability of the sociopath and his colour.
A PC Chauncey Gardiner?
Buerste
Smoke and mirrors.
Cliff
>For 9 Months, Obama has set up Dominoes. Now they begin to fall...
>
>1) Healthcare w/ Public Option will pass in both the House and Senate
>
>2) Climate Change Bill already passed in House gaining steam in Senate
>(with some Repuke support even)
>
>3) Economy in Recovery/Job losses slowing/TARP money going to Small
>Businesses/Fatcats' Salaries at TARP recipients being slashed/Economic
>Reform legislation in the works
>
>4) Iranians seem to be yielding to Multilateral pressure and agreeing to
>means of enrichment that assures no potential for Bombs
>
>5) Karzai agreed to runoff, so at least Afghan Leadership will not be
>declared illegitimate/Obama will announce transition to Anti-Terrorist
>Strategy with some coop with Taliban
>
>6) Guantanamo Bay will close up shop by early 2010
>
>7) DOMA/Don't Ask Don't Tell will both be repealed in the next year's time
>
>8) We are already out of Iraqi Urban areas, and will be almost completely
>out by August 2010. WAR IS OVER! (That's a Big One)
>
>9) No European Missile Defense Shield/Unanimous UN Resolution regarding
>Nuclear Proliferation/Steps toward Disarmament?!?!
>
>
>and these are just the Major Dominoes. There are all kinds of tangent ones
>that will be knocked down as these fall.
>
>You will soon see why this President deserved the Nobel Peace Prize.
>The Nobel Committee has greater foresight than its critics. Its awards are
>given based on a Bigger Picture.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/yhnhtcl
Good points all.
--
Cliff