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my busted miter gear has TWO "macro-movies" online now (sorry, real metalworking content)

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dave

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Dec 18, 2009, 4:50:06 PM12/18/09
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the thing might be metric module 3 (my best guess), or maybe 10
diametral pitch (my only other guess). could be ANY damn thing, hard to
say what. one gear is steel and the other is either cast iron or
"garba-metal". it's even harder to measure. both gears have 17 teeth, so
they ARE miter gears and not bevel gears.

see the full glory of this BUSTED-up damn totally UNrepairable thing HERE:
http://www.youtube.com/user/hardwares1#p/u/2/Xhj-QI6WqnQ


and the saga continues briefly here, along with more technical info, and
some guesswork:
http://www.youtube.com/user/hardwares1#p/u/1/g0ggrQPFHs8

both movies shot in EXTREME closeup mode; the gears are just UNDER the
size of golf balls...

if you have any of these ol' gears laying around, GET WITH ME YESTERDAY,
ok, guys?

my movies are "better than network TV"

thanks :-)

dca...@krl.org

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Dec 18, 2009, 5:18:44 PM12/18/09
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On Dec 18, 9:50 pm, dave <tool_...@weirdstuffcox.net> wrote:

> if you have any of these ol' gears laying around, GET WITH ME YESTERDAY,
> ok, guys?
>
> my movies are "better than network TV"
>
> thanks :-)

Enco is owned by MSC. But generally has cheaper prices. So try MSC
for a manual and parts.

Dan

Ned Simmons

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Dec 18, 2009, 6:09:03 PM12/18/09
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On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:50:06 -0500, dave <tool...@weirdstuffcox.net>
wrote:

For $40 - $50 you can buy a pair of gears from McMaster or Motion
Industries and not worry about matching the old gear. Since these are
miter gears and the shafts intersect, the mesh of the gears is
adjustable by positioning them on the shafts and the exact pitch
diameter is not important.

Bevel gears are on McMaster p1055. Motion Industries or other power
transmission distributor may be a few dollars cheaper.

--
Ned Simmons

Steve Lusardi

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Dec 19, 2009, 3:51:23 AM12/19/09
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Dave,
Ned is correct, replace both gears, but this is ALWAYS the problem with Chinese machines. After market support is non-existent.
Steve

"dave" <tool...@weirdstuffcox.net> wrote in message news:hOSWm.75724$We2....@newsfe09.iad...

Wild_Bill

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Dec 19, 2009, 3:58:34 PM12/19/09
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I don't see the OP, so I'm adding comments here.

The parts aren't in very good condition, but could be repaired to good
enough condition, if they aren't involved in driving the bandsaw blade.

Replacements for these 2 gears shouldn't be too difficult to find, even if
the shoulders and holes aren't the same size as the original parts.

It looks as though there was another problem, as the wear is uneven, on the
unbroken gear.

It doesn't seem likely that the operation of the machine would depend on
having exactly-identical original parts. Some back-shimming or metal removal
on 2 similar gears would probably result in a reliable repair.

--
WB
.........
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www.kwagmire.com/metal_proj.html

dave

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Dec 24, 2009, 12:28:52 PM12/24/09
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while mulling over WHERE I stuck those TWO right angle gearboxes I kept
around here for decades (think I may've tossed 'em, fer shid's sake),
and searching ebay for angle gearboxes, miter gears, screw jacks, etc, I
stumbled over THESE bizarre things. I think they might be a BETTER and
CHEAPER solution to my "miter gear" situation:

just the image of the device
http://toolmonger.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/Gearless.jpg

here's its entire descriptive page:
http://toolmonger.com/2008/05/30/gearless-right-angle-socket-adapter/


apparently, these things are available in 1/4 and 3/8ths drive sizes,
either of which I'm sure would suffice for my (hand-turned handwheel)
purposes...

so todays question is:

has ANYBODY here EVER seen these things used before, in person? or,
better yet, USED one himself?

if so, are they "prone to binding up"?

looks like they're probably vastly less sensitive to spacing issues than
miter gears would be, plus, one of these things is a little less than
HALF the cost of a single steel miter gear (when or IF I ever -could-
actually determine their correct pitch, module size, and all that 'ol
headachey krap...)

ok, let me know, lads :-)

many thanks,

a tool-oriented bubba with busted miter gears

bubba needs =roughly= 1.800 inch OD miter gears, set of two, if you got
any laying around. update: no news from enco re parts, four inquiries
sent so far...

Peter DiVergilio

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Dec 24, 2009, 3:38:50 PM12/24/09
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"dave" <tool...@weirdstuffcox.net> wrote in message
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> while mulling over WHERE I stuck those TWO right angle gearboxes I kept
> around here for decades (think I may've tossed 'em, fer shid's sake), and
> searching ebay for angle gearboxes, miter gears, screw jacks, etc, I
> stumbled over THESE bizarre things. I think they might be a BETTER and
> CHEAPER solution to my "miter gear" situation:
>
> just the image of the device
> http://toolmonger.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/Gearless.jpg
>
> here's its entire descriptive page:
> http://toolmonger.com/2008/05/30/gearless-right-angle-socket-adapter/
>
>
>
> so todays question is:
>
> has ANYBODY here EVER seen these things used before, in person? or, better
> yet, USED one himself?
>
I have owned, and used one of these in 1/4 inch size when I worked as a
mechanic. It never gave me any problems whatsoever as a right angle drive -
thought it looked kinda neat in action, in fact.

--
Peter DiVergilio
All the money I ever wasted was spent trying to impress somebody who was
never going to like me anyway!

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