Help me: How do I make a "ren-style" peace knot for my sword!
Mystik Minnow
peace knot for my sword. If anyone can help me please respond asap!
TIA
Ed
brian hiles
> I looked all over and cannot find any examples of how to tie a proper
> peace knot for my sword. If anyone can help me please respond asap!
Sword knots are invariably forms of sinnetting and/or turks heads--both
are which are beyond the capacity to describe in text form.
I would suggest either purchasing a book dedicated to the subjects
described above or doing a web search on "sword" and "knot". I
recommend http://www.militaryheritage.com/knot.htm.
-Brian
Computer Lab
No, no, no, you misunderstand. A Renaissance Faire peace tie is just a
thong that prevents the sword from being drawn. 99% of them don't use
any sort of decorative knot, just a simple bow.
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Matthew Takeda
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brian hiles
> No, no, no, you misunderstand. A Renaissance Faire peace tie is just a
> thong that prevents the sword from being drawn. 99% of them don't use
> any sort of decorative knot, just a simple bow.
Oh, I understand now. Is there some requirement at the Ren Faire to have
such a knot if one carries in a weapon?
Oh, BTW, it is my understanding that such a knot originated in the
medieval period wherein it was assumed that tempers would cool for
the amount of time it took undoing the knot, and as such these
knots were quite complex, not simple at all.
-Brian
Computer Lab
<b...@rainey.blueneptune.com> wrote:
>Computer Lab <mct7N...@pge.com> wrote:
>> No, no, no, you misunderstand. A Renaissance Faire peace tie is just a
>> thong that prevents the sword from being drawn. 99% of them don't use
>> any sort of decorative knot, just a simple bow.
>
>Oh, I understand now. Is there some requirement at the Ren Faire to have
>such a knot if one carries in a weapon?
Not at all of them, but at most it is a requirement. Drawing steel in
any but specifically delineated circumstances (such as during
performances, demonstrations, and lessons or in "backstage" area not
accessible to the public) can get you ejected from the site.
>Oh, BTW, it is my understanding that such a knot originated in the
>medieval period wherein it was assumed that tempers would cool for
>the amount of time it took undoing the knot, and as such these
>knots were quite complex, not simple at all.
Don't know about that, I haven't encountered the concept in my
Renaissance literature, but if so it would only be appropriate for
very specific times and places, such as at court (where everyone would
probably have a poignard, anyway). In medieval times, if you had a
sword, you were wealthy enough that you could or needed to travel a
bit, putting yourself at risk of encountering feudal enemies or
robbers. Imagine having weapon is tied down by a complex knot when
being accosted by a highwayman, much less an enemy knight in search of
a shrubbery.
ye Knotte Master
>> No, no, no, you misunderstand. A Renaissance Faire peace tie is
>>just a thong that prevents the sword from being drawn. 99% of them
>>don't use any sort of decorative knot, just a simple bow.
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 02:02:52 GMT, brian hiles
>Oh, I understand now. Is there some requirement at the Ren Faire to
>have such a knot if one carries in a weapon?
Exactly! Faires that DO allow patrons to carry weapons almost always
require peace ties. Some use plastic zipties over whatever is done by
the patron, as a matter of policy.
Prevents bystanders from drawing YOUR weapon when tempers flare, and
also prevents theft. Or some idiot from grabbing your weapon "see?
it's not really sharp... oops"
>Oh, BTW, it is my understanding that such a knot originated in the
>medieval period wherein it was assumed that tempers would cool for
>the amount of time it took undoing the knot, and as such these
>knots were quite complex, not simple at all.
>-Brian
Doesn't have to be too complex, just enough of an irritant to cause a
little thought.
Tim
Renaissance "KnotteMaster" - Southern California faires
Tim Russell, Renaissance Faire Knotte Master
California, USA
International Guild of Knot Tyers
email at bb...@removeme.lafn.org after deleting "removeme."
Computer Lab
wrote:
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>Tim
>Renaissance "KnotteMaster" - Southern California faires
>
>
>Tim Russell, Renaissance Faire Knotte Master
>California, USA
>International Guild of Knot Tyers
>email at bb...@removeme.lafn.org after deleting "removeme."
Hi Tim! (waves) you don't know me, but I feel like I know you. I used
to hang out in afr a lot. My computer at home went south on me and my
server at work doesn't do alt groups (and I always forget to do the
deja thing), so I've lost my otterness. 8^( Can't even take the
renGeek test at northern 'cuz I've been out of the loop too long.
On the bright side, RPFN is only 15 minutes from my house this year!
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