Stained glass scrap disposal

[stanjacks]

I'm looking for advice on where and how to dispose of stained glass
scraps. I have about 15 pounds of it now and I'm sure it will grow. It
seems dangerous to box up and put in the trash and I suspect that some
of the compounds used in the glass may be hazardous.

Thanks.

[mary]

you can take up fusing.....
or take the scraps to your local stained glass shop and donate them for the
students to use in their classes.
or there could be schools with a good art curriculum and they could use
them.

~~mary

"stanjacks" <stan...@aol.com> wrote in message
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[Melody]

You can sell it in 5 pound lots or so on eBay, people seem to pay a lot
more than I think it's worth! Or you can find out if there's a local
school that teaches mosaics, they'd be happy to have the donation &
probably give you a tax writeoff. Also, check with local retailers, some
will buy back scraps & resell them as mosaic glass. I wouldn't throw it
away, too many people out there would use them.

[Richard Baines]

Find an art teacher, middle or high school. They can use for mosaic
projects.
Dick Baines

[Mike Savad]

"mary" <mshe...@midstatesd.net> wrote in
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problem with fusing is all the glass has to be compatible. otherwise it
would shatter after fusing.

---Mike Savad

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Mike's Stained Glass - http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1141/

[mary]

yes.....
hopefully when one takes up a technique for glass application such as
fusing they learn ALL they can about the specifics involved.....
i should have specified:

when you take up fusing you need to know the coe's for each glass chosen to
fuse.
should they not be compatible....of the same coe, they will be stressed and
break, or explode when you are finished "fusing" in the kiln.
there are time schedules and temperature schedules and rapid fires and
anneals and oh my so much to learn
you will also need to learn all about a kiln....

and since this was a suggestion i didn't feel a need to write a
dissertation.

now for those who would just automatically realize there is more involved...

~~~~mary
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[Michele Blank]

I've been toying with the idea of popping them in a tumbler and creating
'beach glass' and selling it thru glass suppliers...OH yeah! someone else
did that.... I give mine away, the mosaics kids love it!
Michele

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[D-Money]

Ebay is a good idea, i was going to suggest that also, here I was told to
just box it up, tape the box shut and mark it well for the trash. Call the
trash company (or call your town hall if you don't know the service that
does it) and they'll tell you what to do with it also.

daniel

Michele Blank <AWORKOF...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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[Marilyn Kaminski]

This is what I do with a lot of my scrap, and I sell it at shows. It's a
great way
to keep the trash-can glass to a minimum. I market it as part of my
recycling
program and it flies off the shelf.

So if the original poster happens to be in Colorado I'd be happy to take
their
scrap ...

- Marilyn

"Michele Blank" <AWORKOF...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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[Glenn Woolum]

> Ebay is a good idea, i was going to suggest that also, here I was told to
> just box it up, tape the box shut and mark it well for the trash. Call
the
> trash company (or call your town hall if you don't know the service that
> does it) and they'll tell you what to do with it also.

I wouldn't advocate throwing the scrap away (you should see my scrap pile).
However, all this worry about the toxicity of glass seems misplaced. No one
is seriously going to eat off of it once you've thrown it in the trash. I
don't understand why one needs to treat the glass scrap like toxic waste. If
it were that dangerous, no one would use it in their windows. I can't
believe it is too toxic to go into a landfill.

This should start a humdinger of an argument, eh...

--

Regards,
Glenn Woolum

[Mike Aurelius]

ohhhhhhh Glen!

Here in the wonderful land of 10,000 eco-freaks (minnesota - there's at
least one for every lake), we CANNOT landfill glass of any kind from our
factory. This includes molded lenses (broken), and polished lenses
(defective). The "theory" that the Minnesota EPA is operating under is that
the levels of acid (leachate) in the landfill will eat the glass and
therefore release all the hazardous chemicals molecularly locked up in the
glass matrix. Barium, lead, you name it.

But get this: For our glass swarf (grindings), if we pop them in a furnace
and re-vitrify them, the (now ceramicized) waste is perfectly acceptable to
dump. They just don't want lens blanks apparently...yet, it is also
perfectly acceptable to dump glass bottles of any kind in the land fill.

So, (thinking aloud here), my plan is to put all of our lens blanks and
defective lenses in a furnace, melt them down, and blow lots of bottles, and
toss them in the landfill. Waddaya think?

Actually, we are sending all of it down to a lead smelter in Missouri, who
will use it as flux in their smelters...

Mike Aurelius

[Michele Blank]

Marilyn, do you make stuff like jewelry with or sell it as aquarium fill
or......?? michele

"Marilyn Kaminski" <maril...@home.com> wrote in message
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[Kate Drew-Wilkinson]

Well.. I've now made two videos on making beads with stained glass
"remnants" I'd like to have called it scrap... In the bead making
techniques, I use very small pieces of glass... and in the latest one,
"Making Beads With Stained Glass Remnants, Part 2,", I address the COE
matter by suggesting that if someone wants to devote themselves to a
specific kind of glass, they invest in a sample kit, thereby removing
any doubt about the make of glass they are using.. I personally use
Spectrum for my videos...So..if you wait about ten days, you may be
able to sell the glass on Ebay to someone who is already making bead
with this glass. using my videos as tutorials...I would imagine this
might work...hmm... Kate,On Wed, 27 Jun 2001 16:15:22 GMT, "Michele
Blank" <AWORKOF...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

--Kate Drew-Wilkinson
Jewelry Designer, Glass Bead Maker, Author, Lecturer, Teacher.
Latest Auctions, www.ebay.com homepage Search for KD-W
Webpage: www.personal.riverusers.com/~beads

[Suzanne Gunn]

I'm guessing they are talking more about waste and ecology/recycling
more than toxicity.

The studio I work for sells scrap and also throws a bunch away. It's
just glass.

The trash man doesn't have a problem with it. Just knows not to stand
underneath the dumpster and have it poured on him. OUCH.

We save up all our scrap lead and give it to different people for
melting down to make fishing weights etc.

Suzanne

[Marilyn Kaminski]

> Marilyn, do you make stuff like jewelry with or sell it as aquarium fill
> or......?? michele

I just sell the tumbled pieces, and advertise it as fish-tank filler,
houseplant
decoration, mosaic material, whatever. I've had people buy tons of it, and
make jewelry, window mosaics, floor mosaics, windchimes, frig magnets,
tabletops. I sell quite a bit to other exhibitors at the shows I do, and
then
it's fun to see it re-appear in their booths a few months later,
incorporated
into their artwork.

- Marilyn Kaminski

[stanjacks]

Thanks all. Your suggestions are wonderful.

I have contacted a local stained glass retailer who does use their own
scrap for mosaic classes. While they won't pay me for my scrap, they
are happy to take it off my hands. Sounds like a plan.

Stan. (Ouch!)

[mary]

maybe they might trade you say a roll of foil for it???
mary

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[Glenn Woolum]

> Here in the wonderful land of 10,000 eco-freaks (minnesota - there's at
> least one for every lake), we CANNOT landfill glass of any kind from our
> factory. This includes molded lenses (broken), and polished lenses
> (defective). The "theory" that the Minnesota EPA is operating under is
that
> the levels of acid (leachate) in the landfill will eat the glass and
> therefore release all the hazardous chemicals molecularly locked up in the
> glass matrix. Barium, lead, you name it.

I thought I'd get a rise out of my last post...

There must be 10,000 things that are commonly allowed in the landfill that
are hundreds of times more toxic than any glass I've ever worked with. Sorry
your state is so retarded on the issue. Now if you'd said it isn't allowed
in the landfill because it takes so long to break down, I could understand
that it might cause a problem with volume, but I can't by the toxicity
theory.

> So, (thinking aloud here), my plan is to put all of our lens blanks and
> defective lenses in a furnace, melt them down, and blow lots of bottles,
and
> toss them in the landfill. Waddaya think?

Good thinking! That would show the pinheads...

--

Regards,
Glenn Woolum

[Cheryl]

So, (thinking aloud here), my plan is to put all of our lens blanks and
defective lenses in a furnace, melt them down, and blow lots of bottles, and
toss them in the landfill. Waddaya think?>>>

LOL
Perfect Mike......

51 days and counting....
Cheryl of <A HREF="http://www.dragonbeads.com"> DRAGON BEADS </A>
Flameworked beads and glass
http://www.dragonbeads.com/

[Mike Savad]

drag...@aol.combeads (Cheryl) wrote in
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put notes in them, and throw 'em in the ocean. :)

i wonder if Whittemore Durgin would take them. i don't know if their in
business still or not (havn't gotten a catalog from them in years). but
they sell all sorts of weird trinkets. maybe a bunch of bad lenses will be
good too.

and if the lenses aren't scratched, camera buffs may be able to turn them
into cheap macro lenses.

[Michele Blank]

heck, market them for xmas stocking stuffers for kids. they can use them to
fry ants. Michele

[Suzanne Gunn]

they're still there.

Suzanne

--snip--

[Kate Drew-Wilkinson]

Well, I don't know if I should be putting this here, but my second
video on Making Beads With Stained Glass Remnants went on sale
yesterday.. I have a brief auction on Ebay.. and will havemore Dutch
auctions..just put KD--W into the search slot on the home page and my
current stuff will come up..... On Wed, 27 Jun 2001 16:15:22 GMT,
"Michele Blank" <AWORKOF...@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:

>Marilyn, do you make stuff like jewelry with or sell it as aquarium fill

--Kate Drew-Wilkinson