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DESG

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Aug 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/14/00
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Does anyone know of a complete list or register of Tiffany
windows. The reason I ask is that recently I've visited a
local church for some minor repairs and was overwhelmed with
the glass panels they have. Somewhere in the range of 25ft.
high and 16ft. wide there are 3 religious panels that smell
Tiffany all over them from the heavy drapery glass to the
infamous shaded sky and muliple plated work (needless to say
quite detailed) I was impressed! When asking the elder
member
of the church if they were in fact Tiffany I was told that
they were made in the 18th century... This didn't sit well
with me when I thought of all the opalescent glass used and
dedication plaques (circa.1904) but was polite and just
replied in a somewhat awed remark. I was also told that the
church was burned to the ground years ago and any record of
the windows were destroyed. The windows however survived
with
minimal damage if any.
The church is located in New Bern, NC.
Thanks,
Gary
downeaststainedglass.com

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javahut

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Aug 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/14/00
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IN the back of the Out of Print book, Tiffany Windows, written by (that
recently convicted felon) Alistair Duncan, is a fairly complete list of
windows known to exist. I will look yours up when I get to work tomorrow.
I will offer more response at that time, but if anyone has the book in front
of them as they read this, perhaps they can help.

victo...@my-deja.com

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Aug 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/15/00
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In article <2f4ac838...@usw-ex0108-061.remarq.com>,

New Bern, NC is not listed in the Tiffany book, but this is not a
complete list. Look for a signiture in the lower right corner. Opal
glass was invented for use in windows by John LaFarge And Tiffany
around 1876. LaFarge has the first patent. So this window could not
have been made in the 18th century.


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Albert Lewis

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Aug 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/16/00
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DESG wrote:
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> Does anyone know of a complete list or register of Tiffany
> windows.

It doesn't exist and would be nigh on impossible to create, since it
seems Tiffany Studios sold the same window(s) over and over again to
different churches, homeowners, etc. Visit as many churches and I have
and you'd know what I mean. After a while, you walk in and say, "Oh,
yes. Window X, window Y and Window A3." And usually you can name the
sources (in paintings and etchings or engravings) for the images, too.

It's kinda like the old joke about the prisoners who had their jokes
numbered: one only had to say the number and everyone'd laugh (or not
... it depended on how well you could tell a joke). <grin>

It'd be easier (vis a vis a complete catalog of all Tiffany windows) to
catalog all Sears Roebuck chain saws, I think.

Albert

elie nasser

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Aug 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/19/00
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I ´m not quite sure, what you say is right, Albert.

Elie
www.tiffany-studios.com

pj friend

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Aug 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/20/00
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WOW........reincarnation. what a concept.

I think Albert is correct, elie. There is not a complete list of all of the
windows created by the Tiffany Studio. There is no registry of all the
Tiffany windows. That was the question. Some states have begun to take on
the task of recording the stained glass that is in their area. But not just
Tiffany's work.

I was personally wondering why your url is tiffany-studios? Is that the
name of your company? Your site says stained glass studio of Elie Nasser.
Or is that the name of your studio? Do you have anything to do with the
Dale Tiffany Studio that creates all those lamps?

my best,
pj


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db

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Aug 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/20/00
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From what I read in the magazines, Helen Weis with Willet studios has been
cataloging glass since the 1950's. I use to see references to her
research/work in the Stained Glass magazine. I get the impression that
Willet studios has a major slide collection and reference library. . They
probably have lots of info about Tiffany windows there at Willet.

Now that I wrote this I also recall (remarkable for me) that PJ Friend's
studio is in Philadelphia. If thats the case then PJ & Co probably know
first hand about Willet's resources.

Regarding Dale Tiffany and those lamps, it reminds me of an old Addams
Family television show. Gomez hired the best painter available to paint a
portrait of Morticia: Picasso. It turns out to be Sam Picasso the house
painter.


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Albert Lewis

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Aug 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/21/00
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pj friend wrote:

> I think Albert is correct, elie. There is not a complete list of all of the
> windows created by the Tiffany Studio. There is no registry of all the
> Tiffany windows.

Like most glass studios, Tiffany Studios folded up and their records
were dumped. There are no records from the company, none at all, if they
kept track of what they sold, where they sold it and so on.

That's very frustrating for scholars and researchers, not only in the
case of Tiffany Studios, which continued to operate for a short time
after Louis C. Tiffany himself had died.

Researchers are, of course, interested in many other artists and studios
from the past, but record-keeping isn't high on artists lists of
priorities and when companies end, all too often their records go to the
landfill, alas.

Albert

victo...@my-deja.com

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Aug 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/21/00
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In article <39A18087...@adelphia.net>,

Tiffany studios did leave a bit of a record. They published "A Partial
List of Tiffany Windows" in 1910. This was reprinted in 1972 By John
Sweeny. This is a listing by state. It is the same list the appairs in
Alastair Duncan's book "Tiffany Windows" published in 1980

pj friend

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Aug 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/22/00
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There are a few books that list "some" of the works. But nothing that comes
close to the complete list. Or a registry as to where the other works are
located.
Helene Weiss at Willet Studio is an unbelievable historian. And would be
happy to
answer any questions. She also now has an assistant , forget her name, but
there are now two there.

Now that we are here........i forgot what the original post was and from
whom.

my best,
pj

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elie nasser

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Aug 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/25/00
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pj, I was doubting Tiffany sold the same windows over and over again,
that愀 all. I have never heard of any window that shows up twice.
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This URl of mine ( www.tiffany-studios ) is called so ,
because it shows reproductions only.
It is part of my main URL
http:// www.cartoonage.de
I 惴 just a professional amateur, you know...

my best to you too,pj...
elie

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