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Tim Alicie

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Mar 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/7/99
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I know most of you create REAL stained glass works, but I
do stained glass immitations, or paintings I guess. I use a clear
piece of glass, then squirt this goop on it that dries and looks
like lead. I then fill the spaces between the lead with transparent
paint that looks like glass. My problem is that my "panels"
(regions between the lead outline) are always the same color
throughout the region. Even if I mix the paint so that one side
of the panel is darker, by the time it dries, it all mixes to be the
exact same color. Any suggestions, anyone? In the real staining
of glass, can you get color variations on a single panel? How so?
And finally, how do you get fine detail in stained glass? For example,
the faces on medieval stained glass appear to be painted, not done
with lead and individual panels. Also, if anyone could suggest a better
newsgroup to me involving my kind of work, that would be appreciated.
Thank you.

-- Tim Alicie
tal...@vt.edu


bert weiss

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Mar 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/7/99
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Tim

The glass you have seen in church windows has been painted and kiln
fired. There are many techniques that require special brushes and
skills. I suggest you look at a book called "The Art of Painting on
Glass" by Albinus Elskus. It is available through stained glass shops.

There are many variations that can be created using glass stainers
colors. The basic colors are brown, black, and yellow. There are also
colored enamels that come in lots of colors. These are the paints used
on decorated glassware, like Rolling Rock bottles or Ronald McDonald
glasses. These paints can be combined to create a wide variety of
effects. There are techniques for putting the paint on and techniques
for removing it.

In the end the art work you do is the most important factor. A great
artist making art with any materials will make great art. What you get
by using kiln fired paints is better permanence.

Your questions are relevant to this newsgroup.

Bert

Bert Weiss Glass Studio
Painted Art Glass
Custom Productions
Architectural and Sculptural Cast Glass
Collaborative Art Glass
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The Anthonys

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Mar 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/7/99
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Tim Alicie wrote:
<snipped>

>Any suggestions, anyone? In the real staining
> of glass, can you get color variations on a single panel? How so?

The variations in color in "real" stained glass are intrinsic to the
glass. Some of it has quite marvelous variation. Enough to suggest
dappled sunlight on a variegated flower, a mountain range, etc. The
"stained" in stained glass is an old referenece to silver staining --
one way to get detail onto pieces. It is not a reference to the color of
the glass.

> And finally, how do you get fine detail in stained glass? For example,
> the faces on medieval stained glass appear to be painted, not done
> with lead and individual panels.

Details such as faces in medieval (and modern!) glass are painted on
with a vitreous (I hope that's the right word) powder in suspension, and
then fired onto the glass in a kiln. Or silver stained, as mentioned
above.

Also, if anyone could suggest a better
> newsgroup to me involving my kind of work, that would be appreciated.
> Thank you.

you might try rec.crafts.misc
and you might also try "real" stained glass -- very rewarding!
--SB

Elisa Field

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Mar 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/8/99
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Tim, you could acheive better, tho not approaching real glass...post to
rec.crafts...you should also look at the Pebeo Website (sorry do not have
url but should be easy to find) for some better ideas.

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Tim Alicie <tal...@vt.edu> wrote in article
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Also, if anyone could suggest a better
> newsgroup to me involving my kind of work, that would be appreciated.
> Thank you.
>

> -- Tim Alicie
> tal...@vt.edu
>
>
>
>

Peg

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Mar 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/8/99
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In article <36E31A...@bcpl.net>,

pant...@bcpl.net wrote:
> Tim Alicie wrote:
> <snipped>
> >Any suggestions, anyone? In the real staining
> > of glass, can you get color variations on a single panel? How so?
> <big snip of ways to achieve colour variation>

There's also etching using hydrofloric acid. Clear or coloured glass has a
thin layer of a different colour on it (this is called flashed glass); this
thin layer can be etched (or sand blasted) away in selected areas resulting
in gradations from coloured to clear. Two or more such sheets can then be
plated together to give multicoloured panels. For example a red/clear sheet
of flash plated on a blue/clear sheet can provide shades of blue, pink, red
and purple. With silver staining this can include greeens, oranges, yellows
and browns too.

Peg
Peggy.Matto...@eds.com

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Lisa Brown

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Try here : http://www.artstoreplus.com/glasspaints.html

Elisa Field wrote:

> Tim, you could acheive better, tho not approaching real glass...post to
> rec.crafts...you should also look at the Pebeo Website (sorry do not have
> url but should be easy to find) for some better ideas.
>
>
>

> Lisa

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