On 2019-08-21 19:30, Baloonon wrote:
> Joerg <
ne...@analogconsultants.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2019-08-14 12:48, Joerg wrote:
>
>>> A Belgian Quad and an IPA are coming off primary end of this week.
>>> Next up for brewing a few days later are a Stout and a Koelsch. Of
>>> course the Koelsch needs fresh yeast under this scenario. For the
>>> Stout I'd normally harvest some of the US-05 from the IPA but I have
>>> always wondered, how would a Stout fermented with BE-256 taste?
>>>
>>> I'd harvest some of the Belgain Quad trub which was done with BE-256.
>>> The remainder is always turned into bread starter dough, then later a
>>> nice European style bread with a "hop twang". Sometimes a lot of hop.
>>>
>>> The reason I ask is that I don't want to ruin a whole 5-gallon batch
>>> and 3-4h of work.
>>
>> Well, here we are 16h after cool-down and no fermentation activity yet
>> :-(
>>
>> If it doesn't start today I might have to pitch a pack of US-05.
>
> I've had yeasts take longer to kick in.
>
I looked inside 24h after pitching and there was absolutely nothing. Not
one wee bubble. Didn't want to let the whole batch turn sour on me so I
pitched another dry pack of BE-256 which got it going about 6h later.
The first pitch was harvested trub from a Belgian Quadrupel. It had been
in the fridge for four days. Beats me why it had died because we used
the same trub on the same day to make the starter dough for a "hop
bread" which rose nicely and almost instantly as usual.
I use a lot of harvested trub to start another batch, up to 4th
generation, and it kicks in faster than dry yeast. Usually within less
than 4h. Not this time, for whatever reason. Since dry yeast now costs
$5 or more per pack than also saves money.
> There are US breweries that have "Belgian" stouts but I'm not a huge fan --
> I sort of have it in my head that dark beers with Belgian yeasts are better
> with more caramel and fruit instead of roasted flavors. It may be more of
> an issue with personal expectations, though. Longer aging may well mellow
> it out.
>
It's an "exbeeriment". My Stout also has 1-3/4lbs of honey in it per
5-gal batch, added right a the beginning of the cool-down (coil). I like
my beers on the heavy side. I've read about the banana flavor and stuff
that can develop, just wanted to try it. Other than one guest I am
usually the only one drinking Stout here. If it's not so good I'll go
back to US-05 or Nottingham for Stouts.