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Difference in flavor between Belgian and German pilsener malts

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adam....@gmail.com

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Mar 5, 2009, 10:51:00 PM3/5/09
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In my last bulk purchase I bought a sack of Belgian Pilsener. I've
made a lot of clean, crisp beer with that malt. However, I've had the
hardest time getting something particularly malty. I have a sack of
German pilsener malt this time. Would there be a substantial flavor
difference?

Joel

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Mar 6, 2009, 8:57:58 AM3/6/09
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I think German Pilsner malt has a bit more character than
Belgian Pils, to generalize. However, what style(s) of beer
are you talking about? I've had some really deep malty
Belgian Pale Ale malt over the years-- the flavor was so full
and deep I cut it by half when making American ale styles lest
they be too malty.
So if you're making mostly non-blonde ales, consider using
pale alt malt. If making lager, consider adding some Munich or
Vienna to help bulk up the malt character.
That all said, I love German pilsner for blonde ales, and
for Belgian ales FTM.
--
Joel Plutchak

"New opinions are always suspected, and usually opposed, without any
other reason but because they are not already common." - John Locke

adam....@gmail.com

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Mar 6, 2009, 12:12:13 PM3/6/09
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On Mar 6, 7:57 am, plutc...@see.headers (Joel) wrote:
>    I think German Pilsner malt has a bit more character than
> Belgian Pils, to generalize. However, what style(s) of beer
> are you talking about?  I've had some really deep malty
> Belgian Pale Ale malt over the years-- the flavor was so full
> and deep I cut it by half when making American ale styles lest
> they be too malty.

Do you recall what pale ale malt that was? I think my Belgian
pilsener malt was Weyermann's--I'm not completely confident though.

>    So if you're making mostly non-blonde ales, consider using
> pale alt malt. If making lager, consider adding some Munich or
> Vienna to help bulk up the malt character.

I'm going for German styles for the most part. I'm also getting a
sack of dark munich.

Joel

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Mar 6, 2009, 12:22:35 PM3/6/09
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<adam....@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mar 6, 7:57=A0am, plutc...@see.headers (Joel) wrote:
>Do you recall what pale ale malt that was? I think my Belgian
>pilsener malt was Weyermann's--I'm not completely confident though.

If your Belgian malt was Weyermann, it was... German.
Weyermann is the pilsner I really like. Dingeman is a Belgian
maltster with product available in the US. I tried a bag of
Dingeman pilsner once and found it kinda "eh."

>> =A0 =A0So if you're making mostly non-blonde ales, consider using


>> pale alt malt. If making lager, consider adding some Munich or
>> Vienna to help bulk up the malt character.
>
>I'm going for German styles for the most part. I'm also getting a
>sack of dark munich.

My preference is more or less to use grain from the
country most appropriate to the style; so I heartily
recommend the Weyermann. (Have been using something
else this past year... maybe Best Malz? and haven't been
impressed.)

Brian Lundeen

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Mar 6, 2009, 2:40:52 PM3/6/09
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"Joel" <plut...@see.headers> wrote in message
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> <adam....@gmail.com> wrote:
the flavor was so full
> and deep I cut it by half when making American ale styles lest
> they be too malty.

Too malty? Too malty? The words appear to be English, but they are making no
sense to me. ;-)

I know, Joel, it's a style thing as much as anything. Personally, I throw
the rule book out the window. I like a strong malt flavour in almost every
style I'm making. In that regard, Weyermann Pils and Fawcett MO are the only
base malts I use anymore. If I want to tone down the maltiness, I'll do it
with adjuncts.

Brian


Joel

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Mar 6, 2009, 5:35:46 PM3/6/09
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Brian Lundeen <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>Too malty? Too malty? The words appear to be English, but they are making no
>sense to me. ;-)

That's because I write in American English, not Canadian. ;-)

dunngood

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Mar 8, 2009, 8:14:57 PM3/8/09
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With Pils malts mash temp can make a difference. 148 degrees with a
thin mash = dryer more drinkable

152 to 156 with a thicker mah = more malt
Also watch your mash PH with pils.

Denny Conn

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Mar 10, 2009, 1:13:57 PM3/10/09
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IME, it has more to do with the particular maltster than what country
the malt came from.

--------->Denny
--
Life begins at 60...1.060, that is.

Denny Conn

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Mar 10, 2009, 1:14:57 PM3/10/09
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Joel wrote:

>
> My preference is more or less to use grain from the
> country most appropriate to the style; so I heartily
> recommend the Weyermann. (Have been using something
> else this past year... maybe Best Malz? and haven't been
> impressed.)

I'm sold on Durst Turbo Pils. Great flavor, easy to use.

----------->Denny

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