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JS

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Nov 22, 2006, 8:12:40 AM11/22/06
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I recently placed an order at NB, and included the nifty little
plastic strip called the Fermometer, which monitors actual temp of
fermenting beer. You don't need to expose the adhesive on the back;
you'd be stuck (pun intended!) with it where you placed it. I use
cellophane tape at either end, and can easily transfer it between
vessels. While growing a starter in my 1ltr. flask, I noticed the
wort temp was about 2 degrees F. higher tham ambient. Now I have my
Better Bottle with 5 gals. of NB's Irish Red going full krausen in the
basement, and damned if the temp reading on the strip isn't 2 degrees
above ambient, that is, 61 and 59 respectively. The only thing that
surprises me is that the differential is not greater. After hearing
that active ferments can be up to 10 degrees above ambient, I'm rather
surprised that with a 1-inch head on top, the temp is only 2 degrees
above. Yeast is the recommended WY1272 American Ale II.

No real question here --- just thought I'd share my observations and
invite comments.

John S.

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May Shao

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Nov 22, 2006, 9:46:15 AM11/22/06
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May Shao

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Nov 22, 2006, 9:46:18 AM11/22/06
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Different culture, different crafts and handmade works. Oil painting is
good market in the whole wide world. The oil painting is competitive in
price based on the same quality.
Welcome the web site: www.topart-oilpainting.com
You can get more chance with the workers for the detailing products.

Thanks & best regards,
May Shao
Topart-oilpainting Inc.
深圳市图博阿特油画制作公司
www.topart-oilpainting.com
Office Add: 12-lane, Dafen Village, Buji Town, Shenzhen, China,
518112
Email:wyw...@yahoo.com.cn , mays...@yahoo.com.cn
TEL:+86-755-26596315
FAX:+86-755-89792302
Mobile:+86-13410808790

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John 'Shaggy' Kolesar

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Nov 22, 2006, 12:02:08 PM11/22/06
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On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 08:12:40 -0500, <> wrote:
> I recently placed an order at NB, and included the nifty little
> plastic strip called the Fermometer, which monitors actual temp of
> fermenting beer. You don't need to expose the adhesive on the back;
> you'd be stuck (pun intended!) with it where you placed it. I use
> cellophane tape at either end, and can easily transfer it between
> vessels. While growing a starter in my 1ltr. flask, I noticed the
> wort temp was about 2 degrees F. higher tham ambient. Now I have my
> Better Bottle with 5 gals. of NB's Irish Red going full krausen in the
> basement, and damned if the temp reading on the strip isn't 2 degrees
> above ambient, that is, 61 and 59 respectively. The only thing that
> surprises me is that the differential is not greater. After hearing
> that active ferments can be up to 10 degrees above ambient, I'm rather
> surprised that with a 1-inch head on top, the temp is only 2 degrees
> above. Yeast is the recommended WY1272 American Ale II.

It depends on the ambient temp. The warmer it starts at, the more active
the fermentation will be, and the more heat it will create. Your ambient
temp of 59F is pretty low. I bet if your ambient was 70F you'd see a lot
more than 2 degrees extra, probably more like the 10 that you heard about.

Typically, my ambient is in the low 60s (62-64) and I get 3-4 degrees
of additional heat in the fermenter.


John.

Phil

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Nov 22, 2006, 12:15:23 PM11/22/06
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On 22 Nov 2006 06:46:15 -0800, "May Shao" <mays...@yahoo.com.cn>
wrote:

>Different culture, different crafts and handmade works. Oil painting is
>good market in the whole wide world. The oil painting is competitive in
>price based on the same quality.

>Welcome the web site: www.topart-oilpaintng.com


>You can get more chance with the workers for the detailing products.

I hope this answers your questions, John.

If not... yeast ferments at its own pace. Some ferment faster than
other and generate more heat than others. The actual temperature that
the yeast is fermenting will also help decide how much heat it
generates.


Phil

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Wayne

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Nov 22, 2006, 4:00:38 PM11/22/06
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JS wrote:
> I recently placed an order at NB, and included the nifty little
> plastic strip called the Fermometer, which monitors actual temp of
> fermenting beer. You don't need to expose the adhesive on the back;
> you'd be stuck (pun intended!) with it where you placed it. I use
> cellophane tape at either end, and can easily transfer it between
> vessels. While growing a starter in my 1ltr. flask, I noticed the
> wort temp was about 2 degrees F. higher tham ambient. Now I have my
> Better Bottle with 5 gals. of NB's Irish Red going full krausen in the
> basement, and damned if the temp reading on the strip isn't 2 degrees
> above ambient, that is, 61 and 59 respectively. The only thing that
> surprises me is that the differential is not greater. After hearing
> that active ferments can be up to 10 degrees above ambient, I'm rather
> surprised that with a 1-inch head on top, the temp is only 2 degrees
> above. Yeast is the recommended WY1272 American Ale II.
>
> No real question here --- just thought I'd share my observations and
> invite comments.
>
> John S.
>

For one thing, plastic is a much better insulator than glass or
stainless. There may well have been a greater difference in
temperature. The Fermometer just didn't see it.

Wayne
Bugeater Brewing Company

JS

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Nov 22, 2006, 10:26:18 PM11/22/06
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Hmm, I recall on the Jamil Show, on the Brewing Network, they talked
about glass vs plastic regarding getting a temp read from outside the
vessel, and he pointed out that the walls of plastic fermenters are
quite thin compared to glass. I would tend to think that would tend
to equalize things. You may have a point, tho.

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