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Best speciality grain for nutty flavor?

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Lord Damax

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Dec 23, 2002, 1:59:27 PM12/23/02
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Just made a nut brown ale, and it has no noticeable nut flavor. Whats
the best grain to use for a nutty flavor in one of those brews?

Denny Conn

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Dec 23, 2002, 3:08:41 PM12/23/02
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Lord Damax wrote:
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> Just made a nut brown ale, and it has no noticeable nut flavor. Whats
> the best grain to use for a nutty flavor in one of those brews?

FWIW, it's "nut brown"...i.e., the nut refers to the color, not the
taste.

-------->Denny

MDixon

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Dec 23, 2002, 3:14:44 PM12/23/02
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Denny Conn <denny....@ci.GETRIDOFTHISPART.eugene.or.us> wrote in message
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What's the sound a buzzer makes [insert here]...;)

It does indeed refer to the flavor... http://www.bjcp.org/styleguide10.html
From 10B Northern English Brown Ale
Flavor:
Gentle to moderate sweetness, with a nutty character. Balance is nearly
even, with hop flavor low to none. Some fruity esters should be present; low
diacetyl is acceptable.
...and...
Overall Impression:
Drier and more hop-oriented that southern English brown ale, with a nutty
character rather than caramel

The recipes I have seen call for caramel (or crystal malt), chocolate malt,
and I did see one that called for about 4 ounces of Biscuit malt YMMV

Cheers,
Mike

Denny Conn

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Dec 23, 2002, 3:21:50 PM12/23/02
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MDixon wrote:
> What's the sound a buzzer makes [insert here]...;)
>
> It does indeed refer to the flavor... http://www.bjcp.org/styleguide10.html
> From 10B Northern English Brown Ale
> Flavor:
> Gentle to moderate sweetness, with a nutty character. Balance is nearly
> even, with hop flavor low to none. Some fruity esters should be present; low
> diacetyl is acceptable.
> ...and...
> Overall Impression:
> Drier and more hop-oriented that southern English brown ale, with a nutty
> character rather than caramel
>
> The recipes I have seen call for caramel (or crystal malt), chocolate malt,
> and I did see one that called for about 4 ounces of Biscuit malt YMMV
>
> Cheers,
> Mike

Ummm, that would be "BZZZZZTT!"... damn, you mean I was finally wrong
about something?? ;)

--------->Denny (who obviously needs to get back to studying for the
BJCP exam!)

Frank J. Russo

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Dec 23, 2002, 3:32:30 PM12/23/02
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No one answered this question. Okay, you posted info regarding style but he
ask, what is the best grain to produce a nutty flavor?

I am very interested in this as well. Ignore the style. If you want a
nutty flavor in your beer please make a recommendation. On occasion I have
gotten it by toasting a 2 row pale ale male.

Frank
ATF Home Brew Club
New Bern NC


Kelvin Kundert

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Dec 23, 2002, 3:44:06 PM12/23/02
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A guy in my homebrewing club made one with a quite pronounced nutty
flavour. He toasted regular two row pale malt. I think it was 20
minutes at 250F or something like that. He reads this group
occasionally, so may pipe in...

Kelvin

Denny Conn

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Dec 23, 2002, 3:45:35 PM12/23/02
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Yep, not only that, but I gave an incorrect answer!
I agree with the toasting. I've also gotten nutty notes out of Victory
and biscuit malt.

--------->Denny

Ken Anderson

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Dec 23, 2002, 4:00:55 PM12/23/02
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Also read John Palmer's recipe for Brown Ale. He talks about how to get the
nutty flavor.

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John Misrahi

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Dec 23, 2002, 4:17:05 PM12/23/02
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FWIW, I always find that victory malt adds a kind of nutty (well, maybe more
grainy) flavour, but that could just be me.

john

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Mike D'Brewer

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Dec 23, 2002, 4:39:16 PM12/23/02
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Pre-heat oven to 400F. Toast for 10 mins with pale malt spread thinly on a
cookie sheet.

Beer here,

Mike

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ben w

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Dec 23, 2002, 5:20:14 PM12/23/02
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Lord Damax <ed@_remove_this_.ebonmists.com> wrote in message news:<h7ne0v001l921nc1g...@4ax.com>...

> Just made a nut brown ale, and it has no noticeable nut flavor. Whats
> the best grain to use for a nutty flavor in one of those brews?

Dark British crystal malts and Victory Roast.

ben

Allan

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Dec 23, 2002, 6:21:08 PM12/23/02
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My last nut brown was something like this:
23 Litre batch (6 American gallons)

1 lb. toasted domestic two-row 350deg F for 25-30 min. Stir every 10min.
10 lb. domestic two-row
1 lb. Crystal 65L
4 oz. Carafa 300L

Mashed at 155 deg F
EKG hops to about 28 IBU.
SRM ~12.5
OG 1.051
Very Yummy.

My first nut brown has 2 lb. of toasted barley, and it was too toasty/nutty.
I've read that oven toasted barley is similar to biscuit malt. Can anyone
confirm or deny that?

Allan

Kelvin Kundert

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Dec 23, 2002, 6:36:22 PM12/23/02
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Ok, so I was a little off. Memories of Christmas vacation are
floating around in my head. It is a very nice beer, Allan. Reminds
me of Horseshoe Bay Nut Brown Ale, for those who remember that
brewery.

Kelvin

Kel Rekuta

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Dec 28, 2002, 6:28:53 PM12/28/02
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Lord Damax wrote:
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> Just made a nut brown ale, and it has no noticeable nut flavor. Whats
> the best grain to use for a nutty flavor in one of those brews?

I noticed a pronounced walnut essence to malted oats. Really
cool in small quantities, i.e. less than 5%. Nasty above 10%
of grist.

Kel

John Misrahi

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Dec 29, 2002, 11:22:13 AM12/29/02
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Interesting, we have a malted oat stout fermenting at the moment, with about
a pound of malted oats in it. First time I've ever tried using them.

John

Chris Mikkelson

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Dec 29, 2002, 8:42:32 PM12/29/02
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In article <h7ne0v001l921nc1g...@4ax.com>,

Lord Damax <e...@ebonmists.com> wrote:
>Just made a nut brown ale, and it has no noticeable nut flavor. Whats
>the best grain to use for a nutty flavor in one of those brews?

The nuttiest flavor I've had was in an altbier with
about 40% dark munich, with 10% Durst dark crystal
and the balance Durst pils. With appropriate hops
and yeast, the malt bill would have made a nice nutty
English brown.

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