CO2 tank in hot car
Bart Goddard
My wife is going to pick up my CO2 tank at the place
where I left it for inspection and refill. Then she'll
have to leave the tank in her car for the afternoon.
The car will be sitting in the hot Texas sun (which is
bigger than anyone else's sun) for several hours. I don't
suppose the internal temp of the car will top 140 degrees.
Does anyone know if this will be dangerous?
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Ecnerwal
> My wife is going to pick up my CO2 tank at the place
> where I left it for inspection and refill. Then she'll
> have to leave the tank in her car for the afternoon.
> The car will be sitting in the hot Texas sun (which is
> bigger than anyone else's sun) for several hours. I don't
> suppose the internal temp of the car will top 140 degrees.
>
> Does anyone know if this will be dangerous?
seems to imply that if not overfilled, 120F would be fine:
http://www.warpig.com/paintball/technical/gasses/co2pv.gif
Couple of ice packs and a blanket? If a small tank, a cooler that it
will fit in would beat the blanket, but a blanket would help with a tank
that won't fit in a cooler.
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rgb
> My wife is going to pick up my CO2 tank at the place
> where I left it for inspection and refill. Then she'll
> have to leave the tank in her car for the afternoon.
> The car will be sitting in the hot Texas sun (which is
> bigger than anyone else's sun) for several hours. I don't
> suppose the internal temp of the car will top 140 degrees.
>
> Does anyone know if this will be dangerous?
I really have no idea, but the above scenario makes me nervous!
Personally I'd be uncomfortable with the whole thing.
Probably it's OK: these things do get trucked around and I'm sure they
get exposed to considerable heat. But hopefully someone who knows what
they're talking about can chime in.
One thing: If you do this, make sure the tank stays upright.
But seriously, if no one has any solid advice here, I'd attempt to talk
to someone who would know (maybe someone at a local beverage shop or
even a fire extinguisher shop: those guys handle CO2 all the time and
they'd know the safety issues).
Tom Biasi
wrote:
>
>My wife is going to pick up my CO2 tank at the place
>where I left it for inspection and refill. Then she'll
>have to leave the tank in her car for the afternoon.
>The car will be sitting in the hot Texas sun (which is
>bigger than anyone else's sun) for several hours. I don't
>suppose the internal temp of the car will top 140 degrees.
>
>Does anyone know if this will be dangerous?
Any temperature above 120 F. (2000 psi) will likely blow the safety
valve.
CGA (compressed gas association) recommends not to exceed 120F.
Tom
Scott
> My wife is going to pick up my CO2 tank at the place
> where I left it for inspection and refill. Then she'll
> have to leave the tank in her car for the afternoon.
> The car will be sitting in the hot Texas sun (which is
> bigger than anyone else's sun) for several hours. I don't
> suppose the internal temp of the car will top 140 degrees.
>
> Does anyone know if this will be dangerous?
>
Probably no better if your car happens to be black or a very dark color...
Scott
>
> But seriously, if no one has any solid advice here, I'd attempt to talk
> to someone who would know (maybe someone at a local beverage shop or
> even a fire extinguisher shop: those guys handle CO2 all the time and
> they'd know the safety issues).
Give the guys at the fill shop a call and ask them...they should know
for sure...
Rick B
trying to drive away!
"Tom Biasi" wrote in message
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Tom Biasi
wrote:
>If the safety valve does blow, make sure you fully ventilate your car before
>trying to drive away!
>
Good advice, if it blows while she is driving it will most likely
scare the hell out of her.
Tom
Bart Goddard
news:filn771l8acp4osnj...@4ax.com:
Good point. Anyone know how to rig up a mini-cam in a Chevy?
Tom Biasi
wrote:
>Tom Biasi <tomb...@optonline.net> wrote in
Yes, I know how to rig such a mini-cam but do really want to watch her
hit a tree?
Tom
John Bleichert
be dangerous.
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not be a good idea either...
Tom Biasi
<syb...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>
>Probably have to lay it on its side to put it in the trunk? This may
>not be a good idea either...
be put in service that way.
Tom
John Bleichert
rgb
> On 2011-09-23, Tom Biasi <tomb...@optonline.net> wrote:
> > On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:49:23 -0700, "Rick B" <rickb...@comcast.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>If the safety valve does blow, make sure you fully ventilate your car
> >>before
> >>trying to drive away!
> >>
> > Good advice, if it blows while she is driving it will most likely
> > scare the hell out of her.
> >
> > Tom
>
> And possibly fill up the car with CO2 in a very big hurry. That could
> be dangerous.
unconscious in very short order. I live close to a wine region, and
periodically wine makers die because they get a big whiff of CO2 from
the fermenters and it knocks them out: they either collapse in the tank
or somewhere that is saturated with CO2 and asphyxiate.
CO2 is much more dangerous than you might expect.
Tom Biasi
something terrible. Fortunately I took my head from the source and was
able to breathe clean air after one breath. It was not a pleasant
experience. I will never stick my head in a fermenting vat again.
Tom
Bob F
I got that same feeling once bending over a chest freezer I was using as a
fermenter holder. I tried lowering a lit match into the freezer. It immediately
went out.
Tom Biasi
In the context of the original discussion, the OP's wife could be in a
real bad situation if the full tank vented into the car while she was
in it.
Tom
Steve B
"rgb" <r...@dev.nul> wrote
> Yes - it would be very dangerous. I suspect it would knock one
> unconscious in very short order. I live close to a wine region, and
> periodically wine makers die because they get a big whiff of CO2 from
> the fermenters and it knocks them out: they either collapse in the tank
> or somewhere that is saturated with CO2 and asphyxiate.
>
> CO2 is much more dangerous than you might expect.
dangerous. Some people have the money to make a vineyard, but not the
training or common sense to safely operate same.
Steve
Steve B
"Tom Biasi" <tomb...@optonline.net> wrote
> Nasty wasn't it? Imagine if you couldn't get to fresh air.
> In the context of the original discussion, the OP's wife could be in a
> real bad situation if the full tank vented into the car while she was
> in it.
>
> Tom
just some bad experience from passing out while driving and ensuing
consequences.
Steve
Bob F
Tom Biasi
Bart Goddard
> Nasty wasn't it? Imagine if you couldn't get to fresh air.
> In the context of the original discussion, the OP's wife could be in a
> real bad situation if the full tank vented into the car while she was
> in it.
No worries. I've arranged to have my mother-in-law
pick up the cylinder.
Tom Biasi
wrote:
>Tom Biasi <tomb...@optonline.net> wrote in
>news:smq187591mln2q61v...@4ax.com:
>
>
>> Nasty wasn't it? Imagine if you couldn't get to fresh air.
>> In the context of the original discussion, the OP's wife could be in a
>> real bad situation if the full tank vented into the car while she was
>> in it.
>
>No worries. I've arranged to have my mother-in-law
>pick up the cylinder.
Scott
> Tom Biasi<tomb...@optonline.net> wrote in
> news:smq187591mln2q61v...@4ax.com:
>
>
>> Nasty wasn't it? Imagine if you couldn't get to fresh air.
>> In the context of the original discussion, the OP's wife could be in a
>> real bad situation if the full tank vented into the car while she was
>> in it.
>
> No worries. I've arranged to have my mother-in-law
> pick up the cylinder.
>
Bart Goddard
Scott
>>>
>>> No worries. I've arranged to have my mother-in-law
>>> pick up the cylinder.
>>
>> You are bad Bart! :-)
>
> You only say that because you've never met Endora.
>
Tom Biasi
>Tom Biasi <tomb...@optonline.net> wrote in
>news:0jc287dp8l4srlju2...@4ax.com:
>
>> On 27 Sep 2011 02:02:00 GMT, Bart Goddard <godd...@netscape.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Tom Biasi <tomb...@optonline.net> wrote in
>>>news:smq187591mln2q61v...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Nasty wasn't it? Imagine if you couldn't get to fresh air.
>>>> In the context of the original discussion, the OP's wife could be in a
>>>> real bad situation if the full tank vented into the car while she was
>>>> in it.
>>>
>>>No worries. I've arranged to have my mother-in-law
>>>pick up the cylinder.
>>
>> You are bad Bart! :-)
>
>You only say that because you've never met Endora.
Tony V
>> I got that same feeling once bending over a chest freezer I was using as a
>> fermenter holder. I tried lowering a lit match into the freezer. It immediately
>> went out.
>>
> Nasty wasn't it? Imagine if you couldn't get to fresh air.
> In the context of the original discussion, the OP's wife could be in a
> real bad situation if the full tank vented into the car while she was
> in it.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-493253.html
Tony
Doug Freyburger
>
>> She'd either be dead from asphyxiation, dead from the pursuant car
>> crash, or just some bad experience from passing out while driving and
>> ensuing consequences.
>
> It would seem that driving with the window open would prevent most of that.
trucks have open backs and why larger shipments use closed box trucks
that have special ventilation that is not near the cab.