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SuzanneHye

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Jul 23, 2002, 9:29:36 AM7/23/02
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Take a look at this listing on eBay/Sotheby's:
http://cgi.sothebys.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1843842158

I'm sure it's old, I'm sure it has this wonderful pedigree, BUT! As soon as I
saw it I thought about how 95% of the gang on this newsgroup could come up with
something more beautiful...and more practical. Notice that it's only 13" in
length - how would you put it on? (Maybe it's for your cat.)

Thought you all might enjoy taking a look at it and wondering along with me!
Suzanne

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mkahogan

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Jul 23, 2002, 9:39:47 AM7/23/02
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Must be the name!!! Its got what looks to be a velcro closure? I agree,
13" is a wired size. Maybe she was really, really tiny and only ate
lettuce.
Kathy
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snootyvixen

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Jul 23, 2002, 11:40:41 AM7/23/02
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A $1,380 wiener! LOL~

Vikki

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mkahogan

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Jul 23, 2002, 1:05:02 PM7/23/02
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Oops, I meant wierd!!!! I mean, I might feel wired too with that tight a
necklace or just pass out and die.

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Sooz

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Jul 23, 2002, 1:41:33 PM7/23/02
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My neck is 13", and I'm a size 12 (not a teensy lettuce-eater). Buy it for me!

>news:20020723092936...@mb-cu.aol.com...
> Take a look at this listing on eBay/Sotheby's:
http://cgi.sothebys.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1843842158
I'm sure it's old, I'm sure it has this wonderful pedigree, BUT! As
>soon as I saw it I thought about how 95% of the gang on this newsgroup could
come
>up with something more beautiful...and more practical. Notice that it's only
13" in length - how would you put it on? (Maybe it's for your cat.)
Thought you all might enjoy taking a look at it and wondering along with me!
>> > Suzanne
>> >
>> > Suzanne Hye, Owner
>> > HYE ON BEADS
>> > formerly Henrietta's Beading Supply Co.
>> > P.O. Box 6244
>> > Monroe Township, NJ 08831
>> > 732-605-0300/1-800-325-3918
>> > fax 732-656-1066
>

Sooz
Be patient toward all that is unsolved in your heart
And try to love the questions themselves.

Anne Londez

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Jul 23, 2002, 5:11:25 PM7/23/02
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Looks like a choker... if I lost those 20 pounds I gained last year,
I'm sure I could put it on... if someone would be so kind as to buy it
for me :) Maybe that's the motivation I've been looking for !
Anne

crazyred head

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Jul 23, 2002, 6:21:36 PM7/23/02
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Nita

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Jul 23, 2002, 9:38:28 PM7/23/02
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I Love it ! but I have noticed that with a lot of vintage / antique choker
style necklaces, they are very tiny, maybe because Ladies were not
encouraged to exercise and just fainted at the thought.

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view my current auctions on line at........
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snootyvixen

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Jul 23, 2002, 10:16:01 PM7/23/02
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I think there was a boudoir secret called "neck corsets" and they slept in them to keep
their neck slender - kind of like the Chinese foot binding

BWAHAHAHAHA

Vikki

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Marisa Cappetta

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Jul 23, 2002, 11:25:05 PM7/23/02
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As my Italian Grandma would say "getthehelloutahere' (all one word). Some
people live in lala land when it comes to prices!!

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Sooz

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Jul 24, 2002, 12:20:13 AM7/24/02
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Heck! I'd FRAME something like that.

>> Take a look at this listing on eBay/Sotheby's:
>> http://cgi.sothebys.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1843842158

Sooz

Marilee J. Layman

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Jul 24, 2002, 1:23:39 AM7/24/02
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On 23 Jul 2002 13:29:36 GMT, suzan...@aol.com (SuzanneHye) wrote:

>Take a look at this listing on eBay/Sotheby's:
>http://cgi.sothebys.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1843842158
>
>I'm sure it's old, I'm sure it has this wonderful pedigree, BUT! As soon as I
>saw it I thought about how 95% of the gang on this newsgroup could come up with
>something more beautiful...and more practical. Notice that it's only 13" in
>length - how would you put it on? (Maybe it's for your cat.)
>
>Thought you all might enjoy taking a look at it and wondering along with me!

Ah, it's the name and the style, the same way you could buy a copy of
a Tiffany lamp for much less, but pay a lot for one actually made by
the factory when Tiffany was alive.

--
Marilee J. Layman
Bali Sterling Beads at Wholesale
http://www.basicbali.com

thebeadedbeauty

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Jul 24, 2002, 5:15:31 AM7/24/02
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Well here goes a first for me! So be patient and kind and loving and all
the rest that you already are of course.

And remember, yesterday I had an actual, vivid, loud TANTRUM on my dog!
*lol* who had raided the trash just one too many times since he'd been
rescued from the shelter. I'd even said those toxic words "So this is why
they gave you up!"

I felt like screaming because he (my large Boxer) had gotten ahold of my
sweet vanilla creamer, drizzled it, smeared it, and finger pained it all
over my clean kitchen floor! And it was a long time since I'd cleaned it,
too!

Then, like a dead body, he dragged the carton to the first place he could
find on the carpet: the entryway. He empties the remainder of the carton
there, so anybody and everybody could view it.

I repeat, I felt like screaming. Because I had just cleaned the carpets,
too.

Well, I live alone. It's been a long time since I lost my temper. So I
screamed. I ranted and raved and hit the floor with a newspaper, even my
hands. I shouted Harley's name and pointed and so forth and so on.

The dog kind of watched in curious horrified amazement. And as I pulled a
baking sheet out of the pantry, he ran! as if I were going to swat him!
(Hmm... a blast from his past?) I had to laugh at that. I would never
strike him! *lol* Oh I was sooooo angry! As I directed some comments
towards him while picking up trash, he scooted into my bedroom and never
came out again until called! Now that is a first!

After my tantrum I was so wiped out I had to go to bed (7PM) Up later, I am
paying, now with insomnia, but a good laught and a well-deserved tantrum out
of my system.

So here I am, with a... (false) sense of civility about me...ahem.... ladies
and gentlemen!

I must say that my heart seriouly quickened when I saw this piece. For the
1920's and 30's are a period in time that my grandparents were in their
prime. And for some reason, I remain incredibly connected to my
grandmother, who had been dead now for a good 25 years.

Hers was a period of time that to date influences our fashion immensely,
although nobody would necessarily see it in a piece such as this. For this
is more an object of study.

It is for the purist; the novelist; the historian; the collector; for s/he
that is obsessed with an era so much so that they only want the piece for
the sake of novelty alone.

I'm not sure if this is what you were saying, Marilee, but this necklace is
"The lamp that would have been made by the factory when Tiffany was alive"
It is not a copy. It is an original custom designed piece for Werkstaette
by a woman named Likarz. Now Likarz may have been no more of a designer
than, say, myself. On the other hand, she may have been a Tiffany disigning
for Royalty??? A special Tiffany lamp made by Mr. Tiffany himself for the
very distinguished...someone of noble breeding in Austria, or from
Austria... And then for some time and for some reason part of a "Marx
collection" Well there were lots of Marx's in Europe I hear *lol*

Now consider this!!! Reading the detail in the piece, it is made with
"black and white Venetian Microglass Pearls" LIke microglass? Venetian
Microglass? Go on!

Also, I am likely wrong as right, but isn't that Art Deco that does all the
lines and squares and such? Art Nouveau was about a transition from
function (status) to beauty (whim), whereas Art Deco was about transition
from curves to lines.

The inset in this piece is CLASSIC Art Deco. The inset so beautiful I
prayed to see it closer. I think I'll copy it because I am not sure I'll
ever see anything like it again. And neither will any of you.

Look at it as a...segment of time when a young woman, such as your
gransmothers and great grandmothers, beaded with abandon and tried to set
trends and make fashion statements. And one day one of them was hired for
her services to make a special necklace for a special evening. And this is
what she came up with. It's just ...what they did. Like...a tin cup
necklace or...a Y-necklace. And hers appears to have been a mighty good one
at that!


Oh brother, am I a romantic or what?


Marilee J. Layman

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Jul 25, 2002, 3:51:48 AM7/25/02
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On Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:15:31 GMT, "thebeadedbeauty"
<thebead...@prodigy.net> wrote:

>I'm not sure if this is what you were saying, Marilee, but this necklace is
>"The lamp that would have been made by the factory when Tiffany was alive"
>It is not a copy. It is an original custom designed piece for Werkstaette
>by a woman named Likarz. Now Likarz may have been no more of a designer
>than, say, myself. On the other hand, she may have been a Tiffany disigning
>for Royalty??? A special Tiffany lamp made by Mr. Tiffany himself for the
>very distinguished...someone of noble breeding in Austria, or from
>Austria... And then for some time and for some reason part of a "Marx
>collection" Well there were lots of Marx's in Europe I hear *lol*

Yep, that's it. It's who made it and for whom that's important, not
the materials or piece itself.

>Now consider this!!! Reading the detail in the piece, it is made with
>"black and white Venetian Microglass Pearls" LIke microglass? Venetian
>Microglass? Go on!

Seed beads. Someone is translating German into English wrong. Both
French and German "perles" means beads, not pearls.

>Also, I am likely wrong as right, but isn't that Art Deco that does all the
>lines and squares and such? Art Nouveau was about a transition from
>function (status) to beauty (whim), whereas Art Deco was about transition
>from curves to lines.
>
>The inset in this piece is CLASSIC Art Deco. The inset so beautiful I
>prayed to see it closer. I think I'll copy it because I am not sure I'll
>ever see anything like it again. And neither will any of you.

Yes, I think it's fair to say the owner doesn't know much about art
styles.

Bungadora

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Jul 27, 2002, 3:30:46 PM7/27/02
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>"thebeadedbeauty" thebead...@prodigy.net

>
>
>I must say that my heart seriouly quickened when I saw this piece. For the
>1920's and 30's are a period in time that my grandparents were in their
>prime. And for some reason, I remain incredibly connected to my
>grandmother, who had been dead now for a good 25 years.
>
>Hers was a period of time that to date influences our fashion immensely,
>although nobody would necessarily see it in a piece such as this. For this
>is more an object of study.
>
>It is for the purist; the novelist; the historian; the collector; for s/he
>that is obsessed with an era so much so that they only want the piece for
>the sake of novelty alone.
>
>I'm not sure if this is what you were saying, Marilee, but this necklace is
>"The lamp that would have been made by the factory when Tiffany was alive"
>It is not a copy. It is an original custom designed piece for Werkstaette
>by a woman named Likarz. Now Likarz may have been no more of a designer
>than, say, myself. On the other hand, she may have been a Tiffany disigning
>for Royalty??? A special Tiffany lamp made by Mr. Tiffany himself for the
>very distinguished...someone of noble breeding in Austria, or from
>Austria... And then for some time and for some reason part of a "Marx
>collection" Well there were lots of Marx's in Europe I hear *lol*
>

>Also, I am likely wrong as right, but isn't that Art Deco that does all the
>lines and squares and such? Art Nouveau was about a transition from
>function (status) to beauty (whim), whereas Art Deco was about transition
>from curves to lines.
>
>The inset in this piece is CLASSIC Art Deco. The inset so beautiful I
>prayed to see it closer. I think I'll copy it because I am not sure I'll
>ever see anything like it again. And neither will any of you.
>

I like where this group leads me ...
I've been doing some internet searches on Likarz and came across this site. She
was a graphic/fashion designer in Germany in the 20's-30's. See

http://www.artsmia.org/modernism/text.cfm?oid=226
If you click on the links, there is a neat beaded bag and her portrait.

She also did post cards. Take a look at these:
http://www2.postcard-austria.at/_html/liste.asp?kategorie=8&offset=5
Cool, huh?

This site has a good explanation of the Weiner Werkstatte:
http://woka.com/infos/english/designer/ww.asp


Dora

Sooz

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Jul 27, 2002, 8:24:24 PM7/27/02
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Hey, Dora! Where've you been hiding! Nice to see you, sweetie. Likarz was
very cool looking! This is fascinating. I was just going to do a google on
her.

Bungadora

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Jul 27, 2002, 8:56:29 PM7/27/02
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>ivao...@aol.comeatpeeps (Sooz)

>Hey, Dora! Where've you been hiding! Nice to see you, sweetie. Likarz was
>very cool looking! This is fascinating. I was just going to do a google on
>her.
>

I was in Saskatchewan, weeding my Dad's garden amongst other things - he's 93
and he can see the weeds between the rows but he has trouble with ones between
the plants. Since I've been back, I've been trying to catch up reading of
posts.

Yes! Likarz looks so 30's. There were a lot of bits and pieces for Likarz, but
I didn't go through all the sites listed in the search. I'd like to see more
examples of her jewellery work... I saw another purse in the bag and purse
museum site but it's not beaded
http://www.museumofbagsandpurses.com/eng_1900.html
Dora

Sooz

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Jul 27, 2002, 10:36:28 PM7/27/02
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You could find that today in a very good leather store. What timeless design.

> I saw another purse in the bag and purse
>museum site but it's not beaded
>http://www.museumofbagsandpurses.com/eng_1900.html

Sooz

Bungadora

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Jul 27, 2002, 11:58:28 PM7/27/02
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be sure to check out the other pages on the site, i.e. 1600, 1700 & 1800.
Dora

>diva...@aol.comeatpeeps (Sooz)

thebeadedbeauty

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Dora,

I'm glad I didn't make a complete idiot of myself then! *lol* I have NOT
studied the era like you, I have merely adored it. Your URL's are well
appreciated. I am pulling up postcards as I write. My wittle heart is in
my throat. Tears are welling in my eyes! It reminds me of the very reason
that when I finish this last order I am going to tell the clamoring special
orders to go away!!! I just want to be alone with my beads!!! I want to
play, design, photograph, sell. And most of all, I want my bookkeeping in
order before I die !!!

Darlyne


thebeadedbeauty

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Ha ha hahaha I really laughed at this one! Jeeeeeze! So Marilee can I call
my seedbeads "microperles" from Japan, Europe, Taiwan?
----> Handmade, custome designed beaded jewelry using imported European
Microperles

Sound good?

Darlyne


Bungadora

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Aug 1, 2002, 10:43:13 PM8/1/02
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>"thebeadedbeauty"

And most of all, I want my bookkeeping in
>order before I die !!!

Good luck. I'd like to have my filing done, but that might be a bit of a
stretch.
Dora


Marilee J. Layman

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Aug 2, 2002, 7:45:51 PM8/2/02
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If you want to confuse your customers, sure!

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