I'm ready to give up!!
Su/Cutworks
My husband is home for three weeks. Great, you say. We can spend time
together!
Nope. His foot is giving him trouble and he's as much fun as a bear with a
sore nose right now. I've been desperately trying to find information on
the 'net about beadmaking tools and supplies here in the UK, as I figure
that three weeks of him grouching in the boat is going to be the end of our
relationship. Can I find anything?
I've found some wonderful sites with gorgeous beads by UK artists.
Supplies, links to places to buy them? Nope.
It's times like this that it really hits home how much simpler it is to get
crafting and art supplies in the US. There's not a lot I really miss about
the good ol'US of A, but being able to find a kiln or a torch I like and
order it... well, not in the UK. Or at least not easily.
So, please! For my sanity and the safety of our marriage, could one or two
of you wonderful, artistic UK bead artists please share some of the places
you buy your torch or kiln items from?
Pretty please? I've had a day of searching and my head hurts.
-Su
--
My Floating Needle blog at:
http://www.floatingneedle.co.uk
Helen Page
> So, please! For my sanity and the safety of our marriage, could one
> or two of you wonderful, artistic UK bead artists please share some
> of the places you buy your torch or kiln items from?
This is where mum bought my equipment: http://www.hot-glass.co.uk - and I
use small cylinders of MAPP gas from Halfords.
As for kilns, I don't know, but if you do find anywhere I'd like to know!
Have you tried asking UK lampworkers selling annealed beads on ebay?
Su/Cutworks
> This is where mum bought my equipment: http://www.hot-glass.co.uk - and I
> use small cylinders of MAPP gas from Halfords.
Thanks. We're waiting till Wednesday so I can call them and ask about using
propane with their kit. As we live on a boat and always have large
canisters of Calor for cooking, using the spare for beads isn't a problem.
> As for kilns, I don't know, but if you do find anywhere I'd like to know!
> Have you tried asking UK lampworkers selling annealed beads on ebay?
That's my next stop. I've had several responses via email and will chase
them up tomorrow. I'm also planning on calling a few US companies to see if
they have UK dealers. If I find anything I'll post the info and share it.
Please don't get me wrong, I love the UK. I just miss the convenience that
the US has in supplies.
-Su
Helen Page
> Please don't get me wrong, I love the UK. I just miss the
> convenience that the US has in supplies.
Oh, me too!!!!!
Kalera Stratton
customers in the UK, she's also a beadmaker and she gets all her
supplies from Arrow Springs. I don't think shipping is toooo horribly long.
-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.snipurl.com/kebay
Su/Cutworks
> Oh, good luck hon! I was just on the phone today with one of my
> customers in the UK, she's also a beadmaker and she gets all her
> supplies from Arrow Springs. I don't think shipping is toooo horribly
long.
It's the kiln that's going to be the biggest item, I think. I'm well used
to getting stuff from the US, anything that can go regular post isn't a
problem, and in most cases by air mail isn't too bad. Actually, it's so
cheap to fly to Italy from here that if the husband gets into it in a big
way, he could go over there once a month and bring it back the same day if
he wants glass. The biggest problem is tools and equipment, really.
We'll keep trying. If I can find Skippy Peanut Butter and Reeses' Peanut
Butter cups in the UK, I can find a kiln eventually!
-Su
Su/Cutworks
> I just typed hobby kilns in the search engine and it brought several
> hits.
> Here is some that may help you.
Thanks!
I've also been in contact with a place in Stourbridge that will be importing
kilns from the US soon. We were told that a kiln is good but not vital when
you're starting out. A crock pot with vermiculite seems to be a decent
alternative for beginners without being horribly expensive. Fortunately, my
husband is more interested by the day so it looks as if I've found something
to catch his imagination. He's been surfing today getting some more
information and we're waiting on a few catalogues before making the leap.
My thanks to you and everyone who has been so helpful.
starlia
Not to be nosy or anything but your hubby can cool the beads in vermiculite.
However, the beads won't be annealed until you have kiln. I do wish you the
best in your search.
Starlia
--
Starlia Klopman
www.klopmanstudios.com
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Kalera Stratton
were talking about making one for their German customers, so maybe they
have a distributor there?
Su/Cutworks
> Not to be nosy or anything but your hubby can cool the beads in
vermiculite.
> However, the beads won't be annealed until you have kiln. I do wish you
the
> best in your search.
We're looking at that, as with anything it will take some time before he
produces things that will require a kiln, I would imagine.
We have a diesel-fired stove in the front of the boat that heats the whole
boat during the winter, and we're giving some thought as how to use it. I
wonder if we'd have the first diesel-fired kiln!
As for the best wishes, many thanks. We'll just keep looking and doing
research until we find what we need.
Su/Cutworks
> Maybe you can contact EK Miller? WHen I bought my kiln from them they
> were talking about making one for their German customers, so maybe they
> have a distributor there?
I checked their website and no mention of anywhere in Europe as yet.
I did find one place in the UK that said they're planning on importing kilns
soon. I'd love something nice and compact but even a small kiln would be
too much for my sister to bring over in her carry-on luggage.
Eventually we'll get all the supplies in one place. Many thanks for the
help in finding sources.
Kalera Stratton
http://www.potterycrafts.co.uk
Their small glass kiln looks wonderfully-built, and I bet you could call
them and talk them into building one with a bead door.
But you're right, unless you're selling them, a kiln is not essential. I
would simply not worry about it yet and focus on making cool beads. You
can always anneal them later, and then by the the time you make the
investment in a kiln you'll also have had enough practice to make
salable beads.
Su/Cutworks
> Looking at this link:
>
> http://www.potterycrafts.co.uk
>
> Their small glass kiln looks wonderfully-built, and I bet you could call
> them and talk them into building one with a bead door.
I'm saving this all up and keeping the info in a file.
> But you're right, unless you're selling them, a kiln is not essential. I
> would simply not worry about it yet and focus on making cool beads. You
> can always anneal them later, and then by the the time you make the
> investment in a kiln you'll also have had enough practice to make
> salable beads.
That's what I thought. We're pretty well up on things as we have propane in
quantity as that's what we cook with on the boat, so spare canisters of that
are easy to come by. We're also looking for an oxygen concentrator thingy
(technical term, of course!) and waiting on catalogues from several places.
It all comes to those who wait. It's just hard to wait until it all
arrives.
Thanks again.
Su/Cutworks
> Su, you always confuse me. All the names of towns you list are local to
me,
> even though I'm not in Britain. Stourbridge is the one that always trips
me
> up, because here it's spelled Sturbridge. (can you tell I live in New
> England?)
I grew up in the Midwest, which is as full of names from the UK as the East
Coast is. It's funny to go from Manchester Indiana to Manchester England if
you know what I mean.
> > We were told that a kiln is good but not vital when
> > you're starting out. A crock pot with vermiculite seems to be a decent
> > alternative for beginners without being horribly expensive.
>
> Whoever told you that is wrong. Crockpots do not anneal anything, and
your
> beads would still be prone to breakage. Vermiculite is dangerous to the
> lungs when inhaled. I wouldn't do it - even if it meant I had to wait.
They didn't say it would anneal anything, but that it would be good for
holding beads while learning.
> One good thing is that if kilns are that hard to find in Britain,
> they should be easy to resell for what you paid.
This is why I'm not turning as pale at the cost as I could be. We're
reading up too as much as we can.
Stourbridge is apparently one of the main glassmaking centers or even
centres of the UK, it looks like a very interesting place to visit, so when
we do get down there I'll have to take pictures and do a trip report.
Kalera Stratton
you'd actually have to email or call them and ask. The kiln I bought
(The Fusebox 10) was developed for sale in Germany, but I don't know if
they were selling diectly or if they had a reseller over there.
Su/Cutworks
> They don't have much info on their website, and it's not up to date...
> you'd actually have to email or call them and ask.
I did see that the kiln has an option for a UK plug. Now, I just have to
see if the shipping is ruinous. :-/
> The kiln I bought
> (The Fusebox 10) was developed for sale in Germany, but I don't know if
> they were selling diectly or if they had a reseller over there.
Have you found the kiln to be suitable for your needs?
Kalera Stratton
this one first. It's just perfectly designed for beadmaking, and still
an excellent fusing kiln if I wished to use it for that (but #1 of the
three kilns is still around in fusing capacity so I don't).