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Besides Nymo beading thread, is there a cheaper alternative?

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FitWell

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Apr 24, 2001, 4:02:08 AM4/24/01
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What I mean by cheaper, of course, is not cheaper quality, but
something that is less expensive but of equal quality. I've been
using the beading thread, but it's a little 1 in² packet that costs
between 1 and 2 dollars. I'd like to buy a large spool of some sort
of quality thread for beading, but wouldn't know what to replace the
Nymo thread with. Any comments appreciated!

Ciao!!

Kaytee

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Apr 24, 2001, 10:33:48 AM4/24/01
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> I'd like to buy a large spool of some sort
>of quality thread for beading, but wouldn't know what to replace the
>Nymo thread with.
>
Nymo is usually available on bobbins for about a dollar, but is also available
on large spools. There are also beading cords; depending on what you are doing,
these also may be suitable.
General Bead has Nymo in several sizes, both on bobbins & spools, as well as
beading cord. Some sizes/quantities are available in several colors.
www.genbead.com

Kaytee

Linda D.

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Apr 24, 2001, 6:07:45 PM4/24/01
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On 24 Apr 2001 14:33:48 GMT, bod...@aol.comnospam (Kaytee) wrote:

>Nymo is usually available on bobbins for about a dollar, but is also available
>on large spools. There are also beading cords; depending on what you are doing,
>these also may be suitable.
>General Bead has Nymo in several sizes, both on bobbins & spools, as well as
>beading cord. Some sizes/quantities are available in several colors.
>www.genbead.com
>
>Kaytee

Hmmm....I'm pretty new to beading, so I might be making a big
mistake, tell me if I am! I'm in the midst of beading my first pen
and I'm using seed beads and regular sewing thread that has been
waxed. I understand it's better to use delicas for this type of
beading, but I can't get them in town and haven't placed a mail order
yet, so went with the seed beads.

Is something dreadful going to happen because of the thread
I've used???

take care, Linda :)
P.S. The pen is looking terrific!
Vancouver Island, bc.ca :) (remove 'nospam' to reply)

Howard M.

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Apr 24, 2001, 6:44:08 PM4/24/01
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I think Nymo is the best for stitching, (brick, peyote, square) The stuff
on the spools does not curl and twist like the nymo from bobbins, probably
because it is not so tightly wound.

Spools are available in black and white (I have been told color also, but I
haven't chased those sources down.)

FMG, and Shipwreck have spools. So do some bead stores, such as our local.

Spools should last "forever" - they are the equivalent of 60-80 bobbins, and
cost $13.00-$20.00, depending on color, weight, and store. You can't beat
that for value.

For stringing light necklaces etc, you may want to try Silamide (Shipwreck
and others?) or other choices.
-Howard M.

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Marilee J. Layman

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Apr 24, 2001, 7:36:23 PM4/24/01
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On 24 Apr 2001 14:33:48 GMT, bod...@aol.comnospam (Kaytee) wrote:

Fitwell is joining us from Canada and I hear the House of Orange has a
good range of supplies up there.

--
Marilee J. Layman
Bali Sterling Beads at Wholesale
http://www.basicbali.com

BJ

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Apr 24, 2001, 8:45:20 PM4/24/01
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In article <YknF6.1305$ul5.3...@paloalto-snr1.gtei.net>, "Howard M." <howardDELETE...@gte.net> wrote:
>
>
>FMG, and Shipwreck have spools. So do some bead stores, such as our local.
>
>Spools should last "forever" - they are the equivalent of 60-80 bobbins, and
>cost $13.00-$20.00, depending on color, weight, and store. You can't beat
>that for value.
>


I can't say for Shipwreck but for Fire Mountain the "volume" discount makes
three spools/cones of Nymo of the same weight and color only slightly more
expensive than one individual one. (Something like $14 for one and $15.50
total for three) I always order three and either share with friends or just
have them handy when I need them. Granted I do lots of beadwork and most of
it loomwork which uses a lot of thread -- but still --

BJ

Kaytee

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Apr 25, 2001, 12:08:44 AM4/25/01
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>o I might be making a big
>mistake, tell me if I am! I'm in the midst of beading my first pen
>and I'm using seed beads and regular sewing thread that has been
>waxed.

Yep, BIG mistake. Don't use regular sewing thread for beadwork-- it frays,
rots, and breaks much sooner & more readily than beading thread. Also, do not
use dental floss or fishing line--they are intended to degrade with
environmental exposure.
Kaytee

Kaytee

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Apr 25, 2001, 12:09:48 AM4/25/01
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>Fitwell is joining us from Canada and I hear the House of Orange has a
>good range of supplies up there.<

If they don't, GB will ship there.


Kaytee

Linda D.

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Apr 25, 2001, 2:18:59 AM4/25/01
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>> I might be making a big
>>mistake, tell me if I am! I'm in the midst of beading my first pen
>>and I'm using seed beads and regular sewing thread that has been
>>waxed.

On 25 Apr 2001 04:08:44 GMT, bod...@aol.comnospam (Kaytee) wrote:

>Yep, BIG mistake. Don't use regular sewing thread for beadwork-- it frays,
>rots, and breaks much sooner & more readily than beading thread. Also, do not
>use dental floss or fishing line--they are intended to degrade with
>environmental exposure.
>Kaytee

(big sigh)...that isn't the answer I had been hoping for :(
Ah well...at least on my first pen I only used inexpensive seed beads
and not delicas :)

take care, Linda :)

FitWell

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Apr 25, 2001, 2:33:27 AM4/25/01
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Great!! That's what I need to find, a spool for that kind of price
($12 - $20 range). The little bobbin I bought because that's all a
local store carried was about $2 and it's not lasting very long.

Thanks!

*****************************************

FitWell

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Apr 25, 2001, 2:33:09 AM4/25/01
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On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 19:36:23 -0400, Marilee J. Layman
<mjla...@erols.com> wrote:

>On 24 Apr 2001 14:33:48 GMT, bod...@aol.comnospam (Kaytee) wrote:
>
>>> I'd like to buy a large spool of some sort
>>>of quality thread for beading, but wouldn't know what to replace the
>>>Nymo thread with.
>>>
>>Nymo is usually available on bobbins for about a dollar, but is also available
>>on large spools. There are also beading cords; depending on what you are doing,
>>these also may be suitable.
>>General Bead has Nymo in several sizes, both on bobbins & spools, as well as
>>beading cord. Some sizes/quantities are available in several colors.
>>www.genbead.com
>
>Fitwell is joining us from Canada and I hear the House of Orange has a
>good range of supplies up there.

Hi!! I'm relatively new to beading (took it up about a year ago, but
things got in way and only getting back to it now). I'm on temporary
medical disability so money is very, very low. Need to be able to buy
something in town, so will check to see if there is a House of Orange
here.

Thanks, appreciate it!!

Howard M.

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Apr 26, 2001, 11:30:07 AM4/26/01
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P.S.
Both the FMG and Shipwreck catalogs have serious typos in their listings for
Nymo spools. FMG has two items with identical descriptions, and Shipwreck's
descriptions are 80% wrong on weight and color. Shipwreck's on-line site has
the correct descriptions. I would suggest calling to find out what the
listings for each stock number is supposed to say, or checking their web
sites.
-Howard M.

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Lori Sousa

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Apr 26, 2001, 12:51:38 PM4/26/01
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>FMG has two items with identical descriptions, and Shipwreck's
>descriptions are 80% wrong on weight and color. Shipwreck's on-line site has
>the correct descriptions

Howard -
I can't even FIND Nymo spools in the Shipwreck paper catalog - only Silamide -
got a pg # handy?


Lori Sousa
Briarrose Designs
handcrafted jewelry, traditional care, contemporary flair

deborah smith

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Apr 27, 2001, 1:22:54 AM4/27/01
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Hi,

I'm not Howard, but I had the catalog handy. ;)
Nymo beading thread bobbins are on page 314, the cones and spools are on
page 313. Oh, I'm looking at the 2001 Shipwreck catalog.

Best,

Deborah
artforms

Lori Sousa

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Apr 27, 2001, 1:30:57 PM4/27/01
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> Oh, I'm looking at the 2001 Shipwreck catalog.
>
>

hmmm, I seem to have only the 2000 version......guess its a trip to the website
(if only to order a new catalog. When did the 2001 come out?

Sharon Bentch

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Apr 27, 2001, 7:35:25 PM4/27/01
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I'm very new to beading ( this winter ) and must admit to spending more time
reading this newsgroup and collecting other bead info on the net than I have
actually beading.
The Shipwreck catalog for 2001 I have arrived mid March after reading about
them in this group, then looking up the web site. There is a minimum order
so I HAD to get some beads, to make up the difference. Got some great 2 & 3
cuts in dark green and cobalt. This is a wonderful group, ful of great info
and advice. Very helpful to a new beader.

Sharon

PS is there anything better than Nymo?

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Cahslc

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Apr 27, 2001, 8:01:55 PM4/27/01
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>PS is there anything better than Nymo?<

Sharon, I prefer Silamide. It is pre-waxed, comes in lots of gorgeous colors
on spools, and IMO is stronger than Nymo of the same diameter. I buy my
Silamide from Blessed Beads -- http://www.blessedbeads.com

HTH,

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Sharon Bentch

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Apr 28, 2001, 3:26:02 AM4/28/01
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Thank's for the info on Blessed Beads, Carol! That is a great site. Found
lots of stuff I need. I will try the Silamide. Really hate working with
Nymo, it frays too much for a newbie who is always correcting mistakes.
I loved your work, too! Very nice!

Sharon


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Howard M.

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Apr 28, 2001, 4:30:15 AM4/28/01
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Better for what?

I find the best thread for brick/peyote/square stitch is nymo from the
spools (not from the little bobbins that impart unruly curl.) Silamide will
curl, twist, tangle so bad when you are stitching that you will remember all
your Navy uncle's very special words. Almost as bad is nymo from bobbins.
I have never seen any thread that can throw a knot in itself as fast as
curly nymo. Silamide merely insists on creating tangles after every two or
three stitches. Being a twisted cord, Silamide wants to unwind/wind-up
after passing through seed beads several times. (Stitch-stitch-stitch-hang
the needle to let the thread unwind - I spend more time unwinding than
stitching using Silamide.) Many of the Silamide tangles can be undone with
a little patience. Nymo tangles tend to be final! But, nymo from spools (3
oz cones), with a little Thread Heaven - wonderful! The few tangles still
tend to be final, but they are much less frequent. I can never go back.

For stringing, Silamide is probably better. Of course for stringing you
need to consider the other aternatives -Softflex/Accuflex plastic coated
mini-cables (tiger-tail will get you a "FAIL" on this group), silk threads,
etc. Silamide is a twisted cord, and has more "body" and "coherence" than
nymo. If it does not have to pass repeatedly through beads, as in the above
stitches, it is easier to handle than nymo.

It takes about 15 seconds to wax or "Thread Heaven" the 2 yards (~2 meters)
of thread for a typical stitched earring or necklace. Prewaxing is a
very-very minor convenience in my want-list.

I would suggest getting both nymo and Silamide and becoming familiar with
each. Your results will probably differ. I know my experiences are not the
same as many poster's to this group. Just don't judge nymo from the little
bobbins ($1.00-$2.00) that are most commonly available. The correct nymo to
use for beading, IMHO, is the stuff on spools (cones) without the curl.

Investing about $20, you can get a spool (3 oz cone) of nymo B and Silamide
A. With a little experimentation, you will become an expert. I would truly
like to know the results of your experiences.

-Howard M.

P.S. The Shipwreck printed catalog totally messed up their listings for nymo
on cones. Check their web site for the correct descriptions:
www.shipwreck.com
Fire Mountain Gems also has errors in their printed catalog. Check before
ordering.
http://www.firemtn.com/

And - totally enjoy beading!


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Linda Scheeren

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Apr 28, 2001, 10:45:27 AM4/28/01
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Howard,
I used to have the same problem using Silamide. However, I got myself into
the habit of "twirling" the needle in my fingers after every couple of
stitches. You acquire a sort of instinct as to which way to twirl after
doing it a few times. Saves me lots of time, and I love the strenght
Silamide has.
Have a good one,
--
Linda
Life is short; eat dessert first!

Cahslc

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Apr 28, 2001, 9:46:14 PM4/28/01
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>Really hate working with Nymo, it frays too much for a newbie who is always
correcting mistakes.<

Sharon, I think you will REALLY like the Silamide -- I have actually been able
to take out knots without fraying, which is definitely a plus, LOL!! And
thanks for the compliment!!

Cahslc

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Apr 28, 2001, 9:49:00 PM4/28/01
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>I used to have the same problem using Silamide. However, I got myself into the
habit of "twirling" the needle in my fingers after every couple of stitches.<

That's what I do, too, Linda. In fact, I didn't really realize it until I read
your post, LOL!!

Brian Dalton

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Apr 29, 2001, 6:54:33 PM4/29/01
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in article 20010428214614...@ng-ba1.aol.com, Cahslc at
cah...@aol.comnospam wrote on 29/4/01 11:46 AM:

>> Really hate working with Nymo, it frays too much for a newbie who is always
> correcting mistakes.<
>

I've taken to using fraycheck to condition my Nymo. It works, no more
fraying and no more conditioning with wax or thread heaven - try it!
Brian
Outside of a dog beads are man's best friend, inside of a dog it's too dark
to bead (apologies to Groucho Marx)

Paula Walter

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May 9, 2001, 11:41:47 PM5/9/01
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There are better threads for both beadweaving and general stringing.
I find the follow threads stronger than nymo or silamide.

I use high speed upholstery threads in weights 32, 46, 69, 92. I use
32 for most weaving. With all threads it is best to stretch your
thread before using. I stretch it like you would dental floss, in one
foot sections. It is already prewaxed so no waxing needed.

I use weights 46, and 69 for lightweight necklaces or in combination
with my large cabochon pieces. A good thread for light to medium
stringing is Coats and Clarks Upholstery thread available at most
fabric stores, size T64. It's lightweight, strong and feels like
silk. Works well with endtips, french wire or just beads as an
ending.

Check out your upholstery supply shops for these threads. You may
have to special order weights 32 and 46.

These threads go up in size so theres always new threads to buy.

I hope this helps.

Paula


Paula Marie Walter
Fine Beadwork
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Beaded Treasures

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