LUNDY Extensive collection for sale
Ray Smith
Have a detailed extensive Lundy Island collection for sale. Would run
around $1,000 mark. Is there anybody besides myself interested in
Lundy Island? Contact me. I have a large stock of Lundy. Will figure
out details on the collection. Thanks. Ray
Martin Nicholson
In article <32A8CB...@escape.ca>, Ray Smith <rsm...@escape.ca> writes
Surely Lundy is just an off-shore island with no need or justification
for its own stamps. Do they have any postal validity?
Martin Nicholson
Philatelist - Postal Historian - Publisher
3 Grovelands, Daventry, Northants NN11 4DH, England
Email - Mar...@crozet.demon.co.uk
Custodian of UK Stamps and Postal History WWW site
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Paul Herber
>In article <32A8CB...@escape.ca>, Ray Smith <rsm...@escape.ca> writes
>>Have a detailed extensive Lundy Island collection for sale. Would run
>>around $1,000 mark. Is there anybody besides myself interested in
>>Lundy Island? Contact me. I have a large stock of Lundy. Will figure
>>out details on the collection. Thanks. Ray
>Surely Lundy is just an off-shore island with no need or justification
>for its own stamps. Do they have any postal validity?
There is a resident population all year, there are a large number of
summer visitors, but the British PO will not keep an office there.
Any outgoing mail has to be put on the boat going to the mainland, the
labels pay the local carriage fee.
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KE Arnesen
In article <NXD62HA+...@crozet.demon.co.uk>, Martin Nicholson
<Mar...@crozet.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <32A8CB...@escape.ca>, Ray Smith <rsm...@escape.ca> writes
> >Have a detailed extensive Lundy Island collection for sale. Would run
> >around $1,000 mark. Is there anybody besides myself interested in
> >Lundy Island? Contact me. I have a large stock of Lundy. Will figure
> >out details on the collection. Thanks. Ray
>
> Surely Lundy is just an off-shore island with no need or justification
> for its own stamps. Do they have any postal validity?
The Royal Mail closed down their office on the island in 1927.
To compensate for this, a free mail service was in operation for a few
years paid for by the owner of the Island at that time.
However this service proved to be too expensive, and thus the first Lundy
stamps were "born" in 1929 to cover the mail transport expenses to and
from the Island.
Lundy stamps were affixed on the reverse side (since some three years back
- with the concent of The Royal Mail - on the lower left hand front side)
of all out-going and in-coming mail.
A moderate number of stamps have been issued since 1929 - now-a-days one
set of basic postage rate stamps every two years or so.
Those stamps are valid solely on mail to and from the Island, but they are
in actual use on real mail, are generally well made and printed, and as
such an interesting field of collection.
Info, older stamps and subscription terms can be obtained from:
The Post Office
Lundy Island
Bristol Channel
via Bideford
Devon EX39 2LY UK
Tel: +44 237 431831
Fax: +44 237 421832
K.E.Arnesen
Oslo
stam...@aol.com
In article <k.e.arnesen-09...@xyplex25.uio.no>,
k.e.a...@easteur-orient.uio.no (KE Arnesen) writes:
>> Surely Lundy is just an off-shore island with no need or justification
>> for its own stamps. Do they have any postal validity?
Saw a very interesting exhibit on Lundy stamps at MIDAPHIL in Kansas City
this year. I enjoyed it far more than the (seemingly) hundreds of frames
of US 1860's issues that were at the show.
Jerry Derr
Helmuth Lavicka
R. J. Cardy M.B.C.S
Sorry must disagree. Lundy stamps are not bogus, unlike lots of other UK
Island stamps, they are used to prepay carriage of mail from Lundy to the
mainland.
Dick
Paul Herber
No, they are used to pay local postage, island to mainland.
Yes, they are what some folk call cinderella, in the same way as
Scandinavian locals are often called cinderella, but not by me, as I
collect them, even if most of the ones I find here in the UK are mint.
They are certainly not bogus.
Dan Rodlie
> > >> Surely Lundy is just an off-shore island with no need or justification
> > >> for its own stamps. Do they have any postal validity?
Just a note about Lundy stamps.
(Taken from The Log and Watercraft Philately with editors concent)
"Lundy Island is about 12 miles from Hartland Point in the Bristol
Channel. About three miles long, over half a mile wide at the point, and
rising over 460 feet above sea level. Some 200 men worked on the island
in the 1860's for the Lundy Granit Co. The company ceased to quarry in
1868. At present, the permanent population is 20, although as many as
25.000 tourists visit the island in the summer months. It's philatelic
history goes back a long way. In 1925, Martin Harman bought the island
for 16.000 pounds, and was soon in dispute with the G.P.O. over the
postal allowance. As a result, he decided to take over the postal
services, and from January 1, 1928, the G.P.O. ceased to operate from
the island. Herman introduce private local stamps on November 1, 1929
using a unit of currency called "puffin"."
( In the same issue we also covered St. Kilda, Calf of Man, Davaar,
Gough Island, Herm, Sanda and Lithou. )
Dan Rodlie
Watercraft Philately
Mark Schulzinger
I would hardly call Lundy Island stamps Cinderellas. They are local
issues which must be used in conjunction with other "official" stamps to
pay postage out of the local area. In the United States there is one very
famous local -- Rattlesnake Island. This is an island in Lake Erie that
has no physical connection with the mainland. For decades now mail has
been airlifted to and from the island, and stamps have been routinely
issued for that purpose.
Back in the 1950's a county in Southwest Missouri seceded from the state
and issued its own stamps. Since I knew the postmaster but was never able
to obtain examples of the usage of the items, I have to lable them as
Cinderella material, tho.
Just my opinion, folks.
Mark
On Thu, 12 Dec 1996, Paul Herber wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Dec 1996 23:55:08 +0100 Helmuth Lavicka
> <hel...@lix.oxbacksskolan.se> wrote:
>
> >stam...@aol.com wrote:
> >>
> >> In article <k.e.arnesen-09...@xyplex25.uio.no>,
> >> k.e.a...@easteur-orient.uio.no (KE Arnesen) writes:
> >>
> >> >> Surely Lundy is just an off-shore island with no need or justification
> >> >> for its own stamps. Do they have any postal validity?
> >>
KE Arnesen
In article <58nlcb$c...@morgana.netcom.net.uk>, phe...@pherber.com wrote:
[...]
> >LUNDY STAMPS ARE BOGUS STAMPS, CINDERELLAS!
> No, they are used to pay local postage, island to mainland.
> Yes, they are what some folk call cinderella, in the same way as
> Scandinavian locals are often called cinderella,
What do you mean by "Scandinavian locals"?
K.E.Arnesen
Oslo
KE Arnesen
In article <32B08D...@awinc.com>, Dan Rodlie <dro...@awinc.com> wrote:
[....] and from January 1, 1928, the G.P.O. ceased to operate from
> the island. Herman introduce private local stamps on November 1, 1929
> using a unit of currency called "puffin"."
"Puffins" were in circulation as a unit of currency for some years on the
Island (one puffin = one penny).
The name "puffin" was chosen since "Lundy" ethymologically means "Puffin
island" ("Lundaey" in Old Norse - a reminder of the time the Nordic
Vikings sailed along British shores).
Thus the "puffin" coins constitute yet another aspect of a Lundy collection.
Lundy stamps still have their value expressed in "puffins", one puffin
equalling one penny (UK).
K.E.Arnesen
Oslo
KE Arnesen
> > > >> Surely Lundy is just an off-shore island with no need or justification
> > > >> for its own stamps. Do they have any postal validity?
>
> Just a note about Lundy stamps.
>
> (Taken from The Log and Watercraft Philately with editors concent)
[...]
> ( In the same issue we also covered St. Kilda, Calf of Man, Davaar,
> Gough Island, Herm, Sanda and Lithou. )
Are / were stamps from these areas used on actual mail, either internally
or to / from the area?
K.E.Arnesen
Oslo
Art Mongan
In article <k.e.arnesen-16...@xyplex11.uio.no>,
k.e.a...@easteur-orient.uio.no (KE Arnesen) wrote:
Hi
I have a commercial, promotional postcard advertisement for
"Pentothal", an intravenous anesthetic using a one puffin stamp from Lundy
to England and a 2d Great British stamp for the postage from Bristol to
Philadephia, PA USA.
Art
Art Mongan
In article <Pine.BSI.3.95.96121...@maslow.cia-g.com>,
Mark Schulzinger <msch...@cia-g.com> wrote:
>I would hardly call Lundy Island stamps Cinderellas. They are local
>issues which must be used in conjunction with other "official" stamps to
>pay postage out of the local area. In the United States there is one very
>famous local -- Rattlesnake Island. This is an island in Lake Erie that
>has no physical connection with the mainland. For decades now mail has
>been airlifted to and from the island, and stamps have been routinely
>issued for that purpose.
>
Hi
When did the term "Cinderella" originated? About 1960 The Cinderella
Stamp Club was started as an association of philatelist, amateur and
professional, whose interests lie in local stamps, telegraph stamps,
fiscals, bogus and phamtom issues, Christmas seals, registration labels,
advertisement and exhibit labels - the so-called "Cinderellas of
Philately."
Cinderellas are fun Art
Mark Schulzinger
I completely agree with your assessment of Cinderellas. I've collected
them, off and on, for many years and find them to be a pleasant parallel
to my other collections.
Mark