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Leon.

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Nov 16, 2003, 2:56:25 AM11/16/03
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How can I tell a Australian 1928 3 pence kookaburra , from other 3 pence
kookaburra's of the same age ?


Rodney

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Nov 16, 2003, 3:28:03 AM11/16/03
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G'day Leon,
Not sure I understand the question.
Can you expand?

The 1928 Kookaburra, if I understand you correctly
was Australia's first "Minitiature Sheet" so you can find
all sorts of make-ups

Hope this helps................

Australia's First Miniature Sheet

The first miniature sheet issued by the Australian Post Office was that issued on 29th
October, 1928, to commemorate the International Philatelic Exhibition held in
Melboume. The miniature sheet, which was designed by Mr R. A. Harrison and
engraved by Mr T. S. Harrison was recess-printed on unwatermarked paper.

Following representations made by the organisers of the International Philatelic
Exhibition planned to take place in Melboume over the period 29th October to 1st
November, 1928, the Post Office considered a number of proposals by which a
postage stamp might be associated with the exhibition.

It was decided eventually to utilize a modified version of the 6d stamp of 1913
depicting a kookaburra and to issue the stamp in 3d denomination and in blue colour.
Additionally, it was agreed that the stamp would be printed not only in the usual
sheet form but also in special sheets of 60 stamps so arranged that within
each such sheet there would be 15 blocks each of four stamps surrounded
by selvedge to give the effect of a miniature sheet.

Arrangements were also made for the special sheets to be printed on a press which was
installed at the exhibition as a working exhibit.

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Rodney

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Nov 16, 2003, 3:36:40 AM11/16/03
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...........Further
here is a full sheet of perforated minisheets
so you can see the odd perforated machinations

http://groups.msn.com/Stamps/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=142

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Leon.

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Nov 16, 2003, 3:14:57 PM11/16/03
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"Rodney" <rod...@touch88.com.au> wrote in message
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> G'day Leon,
> Not sure I understand the question.
> Can you expand?

ok

oops on the NSW, the stamp I am asking about is Australian.
I was rushing, and mixed up the question with the NSW green 5 pence. (I have
a sheet of NSW stamps,
including 2d,3d as well, 1860-1901)

They havent been in a time machine, hence they arent in Mint condition.
They didnt have plastic sheets to preserve them in.

From Sun Herald, February 4, 1990.
Page 110, "Just like playing the stockmarket" by Rachel Loos.
About the 10th paragraph
"The much sought after 1928 three penny Kookaburra stamp, now worth $325
was worth $150 five years ago".


Whats the value of a single stamp from the sheet ?
Do I know assume the money is having the entire sheet ?


The article then lists other valuable Aussie stamps.
Whats the current "truth" ? That the number of deceased estates hitting the
market drops the value down ?


kangeroo series 1913-46
King George V heads - 1914-1936 (when else would they print KG V heads ? )
three penny miniature sheet
five shilling harbour bridge 1932
"the Robes set" - 1937 coronation. ( I was told that a complete mint set of
all countries, all values, wasnt worth that much these days ? )
Coat of Arms set 1949.

Rodney

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Nov 16, 2003, 4:53:59 PM11/16/03
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G'day Leon,
Now I get your drift.
The stamps quoted, are some of the "classics"
of the Australian Catalogue, that one would assume will not
only hold their value, but inflate with time, and with Australia's
assumed population explosion.
(Although we don't seem to be taking too many refugees at the moment)

The Kookaburra quoted is the standard mini sheet, that is 4x3d
with appropriate selvedge.

I do not get involved too much with current value, but my 2000 catalogue
lists the mini sheet at AUD $240 MUH $170 MLH (likewise used)

A singleton stamp at $6, $4, $3 repectively.

Perforated "OS" $25,$12,$10

First day Cover with mini sheet $800

I have no idea on the paper used, and at this time assume the sheet
stamp and minisheet are identical, and only told apart by the selvedge.
The more knowledgable on this group may assist here.

HTH

Leon.

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Nov 16, 2003, 8:04:51 PM11/16/03
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"Rodney" <rod...@touch88.com.au> wrote in message
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> G'day Leon,
> Now I get your drift.
> The stamps quoted, are some of the "classics"
> of the Australian Catalogue, that one would assume will not
> only hold their value, but inflate with time, and with Australia's
> assumed population explosion.
> (Although we don't seem to be taking too many refugees at the moment)

As long as the population of stamp collectors doesnt decline, which of
course IS occuring.
(since its no longer possible to stick to the ideal of defining a set of
stamps that you are going to collect )


Well there is still immigration .

eg There are no limits on spouses visa's, and when the spouse is on a
substantial visa (such as a student visa) and is in Australia when they
apply they can stay until the visa is granted, which happens quickly.

> The Kookaburra quoted is the standard mini sheet, that is 4x3d
> with appropriate selvedge.

Ah, the journo got it wrong . She said "stamp" singular, where she really
had to use "stamps" or "sheet". And then the list of appreciating stamps
did mention the set of stamps as being valuable, and so I assumed a single
stamp was worth a lot too.

I have a singular stamp, and hence dont even know if it was part of a
minisheet or not.

I took a 30 page album in to a stamp fair, and while he was happy to
suggest a value of $30 for the set of 10 Christmas Island 1958 2c -> $1
"lightly hinged", he was only offering $80 for the lot.

Other pages are similar for Cook Islands, and other english speaking
(commonwealth) countries starting from A to G, with sets like the 1937 ,
1953, and other royal stamps, and other events from specific to each
country, and some of the older stamps.

There's an 1860 New Brunswick 2 cent orange young Queen face on -the
picture isnt centred, and theres some rust on the very edge of the
perforation. and a 1872 Prince Edward Island 4 cents green mature queen in
profile.

There's the Eire Robet Emmet 1'3 unstained, no cancellation,
The GB jubilee jamboree 1'3 ,2 1/2d, 4d 1957 fine but for LH.

It seems like they were trying to tell me the old stamps are valueless
because they are old.

these retiree sharks were selling 1980's sets. they probably had little idea
of the rest.

One of them spotted the ONE SINGLE stamp that had sticky tape hinging rather
than the proper hinge.
As if to say one wrecked stamp caused the lot to lose value.

>
> I do not get involved too much with current value, but my 2000 catalogue
> lists the mini sheet at AUD $240 MUH $170 MLH (likewise used)
>
> A singleton stamp at $6, $4, $3 repectively.
>
> Perforated "OS" $25,$12,$10
>
> First day Cover with mini sheet $800
>
> I have no idea on the paper used, and at this time assume the sheet
> stamp and minisheet are identical, and only told apart by the selvedge.
> The more knowledgable on this group may assist here.

The link you gave me said there was no watermark on the minisheet.
Presumably they didnt bother with that on the "sold to collectors"
minisheets.
And since its normal to have watermarks on standard sheets, that would
likely a difference. Is anyone going to differentiate in price between a
single from the minisheet and a single that wasnt from a minisheet anyway??


TC

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Nov 17, 2003, 12:42:49 AM11/17/03
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:56:25 +1100, "Leon." <noe...@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>How can I tell a Australian 1928 3 pence kookaburra , from other 3 pence
>kookaburra's of the same age ?
>

The 1928 Melbourne Philatelic Exhibition stamp
(SG 42) was a 3d blue , but the others were
6d values. (1913 SG 20 claret, 1932 SG57 claret)

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Leon.

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Nov 17, 2003, 11:07:19 PM11/17/03
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"TC" <T...@Litterbox.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:56:25 +1100, "Leon." <noe...@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
>
> >How can I tell a Australian 1928 3 pence kookaburra , from other 3 pence
> >kookaburra's of the same age ?
> >
>
> The 1928 Melbourne Philatelic Exhibition stamp
> (SG 42) was a 3d blue , but the others were
> 6d values. (1913 SG 20 claret, 1932 SG57 claret)

and so whats the value of a single blue threepence kookaburra ?


Bob Ingraham

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Nov 18, 2003, 1:27:31 AM11/18/03
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> From: "Leon." <noe...@nowhere.com>
> Organization: The University of Newcastle
> Newsgroups: rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:07:19 +1100
> Subject: Re: nsw 1928 kookaburra

Well, a Kookabura in the hand is worth.... Sorry, couldn't resist. :^)

boB

TC

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Nov 18, 2003, 1:35:04 AM11/18/03
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:07:19 +1100, "Leon." <noe...@nowhere.com>
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On Cover (cancelled at the exhibition):
http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/ha/havilah/jag5193.jpg
$35 (AU) $17.50 US

Mint Unhinged copy :
http://i2.ebayimg.com/03/i/00/e2/2e/01_1.JPG
$4 (AU) $2 US

Mint Mini-sheet of 4
http://www.powerup.com.au/~abells/L15.JPG
$30 (AU) $15 US

Mint Single (official stamp - perfin OS)
http://www.gtp.com.au/geoffcarter/largeimages/f1.jpg
$12 (AU) $6 US

Hope this helps.

Leon.

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Nov 18, 2003, 8:24:38 PM11/18/03
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Well the bottom fell out of these prices.

The exchange rate isnt like that anymore.

DnMrnfmly

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Nov 24, 2003, 1:23:00 PM11/24/03
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I don't believe it's possible to distinguish a single from the miniature sheet
from one from a sheet of 120 subjects. I'm referring to the 3d blue
kookaburra; I hope this answers your question.
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