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Grandpa

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Oct 14, 2003, 1:44:14 AM10/14/03
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Being in my typical hurry I dumped a small handful of stamps into the
soaking bowl w/o going thru them carefully first and found afterwards
I'd dropped in one on some red paper. Of course it stained several
other stamps of which one was a decent one I'd have kept. Oh well, so
now I have some to play around and experiment with, so as a practice run
if it can be done, is there a safe workable way to remove the stain w/o
ruining the stamps? Or do I chalk it up to another 'senior moment' and
move on? Since they are already ruined I don't have anything to lose by
trying.

Chris Doran

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Oct 14, 2003, 5:16:23 AM10/14/03
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Grandpa <jsdebooATcomcast.net> wrote in message news:<ZPqdnaQpVJy...@comcast.com>...

I've never tried it, but I've just read somewhere that you should (a)
not let the stamps dry out, and (b) boil them in water. The originator
of this admits that (b) is drastic, but claims it's safe. Let us know
whether it works.

Chris

kevin

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Oct 14, 2003, 6:15:31 AM10/14/03
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many moons ago I was told that vinegar (white) works wonders on stains...
use full strength and let the stamps sit fer a bit...
another useful tool for stamps that have oxidized is hydrogen peroxide... I
had some Canadian stamps that were well adjusted changelings and the HP
returned them to their original glory and colour... takes a few minutes but
was quite kool.....
hope these help...
kk

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TC

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Oct 14, 2003, 3:21:35 AM10/14/03
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>trying.
>


Grandpa:

Red is the absolute WORST colour for staining other stamps,
in my 50 years of collecting experience.

However, if the stamp is a loss anyway, why not experiment?

First try soaking it in 3% Hydrogen Peroxide ASAP. You can get it at pharmacies
or dollar stores.

Watch to se if the red comes out and if the stamp colours are affected.

If Peroxide doesn't work, try a small bowl of water and add a drop or two
of bleach (shudder) at a time to see if that works.

In either case , rinse in clean water afterward.

It might be of interest to the others here to know the results
and the grandson might like to help in the experiment.

Cheers

Blair
(who is also older than Grandpa)

TC

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Oct 14, 2003, 3:53:28 AM10/14/03
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"kevin" <kr...@junction.net> wrote:
>many moons ago I was told that vinegar (white) works wonders on stains...
>use full strength and let the stamps sit fer a bit...
>another useful tool for stamps that have oxidized is hydrogen peroxide...
I
>had some Canadian stamps that were well adjusted changelings and the HP
>returned them to their original glory and colour... takes a few minutes
but
>was quite kool.....
>hope these help...
>kk
>
>"Grandpa" <jsdebooATcomcast.net> wrote in message
>news:ZPqdnaQpVJy...@comcast.com...
>> Being in my typical hurry I dumped a small handful of stamps into the
>> soaking bowl w/o going thru them carefully first and found afterwards
>> I'd dropped in one on some red paper. Of course it stained several
>> other stamps of which one was a decent one I'd have kept. Oh well, so
>> now I have some to play around and experiment with, so as a practice run
>> if it can be done, is there a safe workable way to remove the stain w/o
>> ruining the stamps? Or do I chalk it up to another 'senior moment' and
>> move on? Since they are already ruined I don't have anything to lose
by
>> trying.
>>


Vinegar will clean stamps (it is acid) but I'm not sure
that it will bleach. It is used to clean glass.

Peroxide will bleach. That is why people use it
on their hair.

Blair


TC

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Oct 14, 2003, 3:41:18 AM10/14/03
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Also, once the red colour sets - you are finished!

Blair


Tracy Barber

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Oct 14, 2003, 11:28:28 AM10/14/03
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 23:44:14 -0600, Grandpa <jsdebooATcomcast.net>
wrote:

Keep colored paper separate. When soaking them, soak them stamp down,
allowing the paper to float away from the stamp and not transfer as
much "color" to said stamp(s).

Also, try fewer stamps and smaller containers when doing colored
stamps, therefore limiting your damage to smaller amounts.

Tracy Barber

DROGER Jean-Paul

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Oct 14, 2003, 11:41:35 AM10/14/03
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"Tracy Barber" a écrit :
Yes but use very cold water and soak one stamp after the other! I sort
out paper before soaking and use 10 bowls for "bad paper". I soak stamp
down, it falls down when it is separate from paper genarally quickly!!
I seem you use often bad paper in the States then in Europe, I remember
some red or blue covers, you could color all the collection with
colored soaking water!!

--
Jean-Paulo DROGER

Tracy Barber

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Oct 14, 2003, 12:30:00 PM10/14/03
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Yup! We like those colors!

Tracy Barber

Grandpa

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Oct 14, 2003, 4:57:21 PM10/14/03
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Chris Doran wrote:

I'll give it a shot for grins<G>. Worst I can get is a tiny pile of
pulp floating in the pan.

TC

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Oct 14, 2003, 5:23:29 PM10/14/03
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 23:44:14 -0600, Grandpa <jsdebooATcomcast.net>
wrote:

>Being in my typical hurry I dumped a small handful of stamps into the


Grandpa:

Red is the absolute WORST colour for staining other stamps,
in my 50 years of collecting experience.

However, if the stamp is a loss anyway, why not experiment?

First try soaking it in 3% Hydrogen Peroxide ASAP. You can get it
at pharmacies or dollar stores.

Watch to se if the red comes out and if the stamp colours are
affected.

If Peroxide doesn't work, try a small bowl of water and add a drop
or two of bleach (shudder) at a time to see if that works.

In either case , rinse in clean water afterward.

It might be of interest to the others here to know the results
and the grandson might like to help in the experiment.

Cheers

Blair
(who is also older than Grandpa)

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Albumen

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Oct 20, 2003, 3:48:35 PM10/20/03
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"TC" <t...@litterbox.com> wrote in message:

> First try soaking it in 3% Hydrogen Peroxide ASAP. You can get it at
pharmacies
> or dollar stores.

Wrong!

Don't *ever* use Hydrogen Peroxide, it is a mild acid.

Here's the right answer: The stamp can be cleaned up in cool distilled
water.

If the stamp does not clean in water -- put it into your stock book and find
another stamp.

Nobody can improve a stamp by putting it in Peroxide. All you do is strip
off the outer layer of the ink (including cancelling ink and especially pen
cancels). Any stamps that are so altered by Peroxide are ruined for
philatelic purposes since the color is stripped and faded. Any cancels that
are removed with Peroxide also can be detected by expert committee.

Another rule I use is, don't *buy* or *trade* stamps with anyone who uses
Peroxide on their stamps (and I can usually tell a stamp right off if it
because the color is very flat).

-a

P.S. I've seen some Internet articles on stamps that recommend Hydrogen
Peroxide - Readers - check the author's sources and be very skeptical before
proceeding. Such works appear to be well meaning, but they are very
irresponsible.

"TC" <t...@litterbox.com> wrote in message:


>
> Grandpa <jsdebooATcomcast.net> wrote:
> is there a safe workable way to remove the stain w/o
> >ruining the stamps?

> However, if the stamp is a loss anyway, why not experiment?

Albumen

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Oct 20, 2003, 3:56:59 PM10/20/03
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"Chris Doran" <chris...@postmaster.co.uk> wrote in message
news:948f0720.03101...@posting.google.com...I've just read

somewhere that you should (a)> not let the stamps dry out, and (b) boil them
in water.

Yikes!

*Never* put stamps in boiling water.

Many stamp papers contain a percentage of cotton rag fibers as well as wood
fiber suspended in a starch or glue matrix. Boiling hot water breaks down
the matrix that prevents the paper from shrinking.

Bottom line - you boil your stamps you'll get brightly colored pulp.

-a


Albumen

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Oct 20, 2003, 4:11:17 PM10/20/03
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The best method of separating stamps from colored stationary is with a
sweating box.

-a

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