Is this ng dead ? A question about UPU taxations

bc92

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Jan 10, 2012, 5:12:44 PM1/10/12

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I am afraid this usenet ng is quite dead with nearly zero messages nowadays.

Who says no ?

http://cjoint.com/?BAkxccbPvJc

I would need a documented explanation for this postage due 43 gold
centimes tax (0,43 gold francs) to 14 US-cents in 1960. What was the
official postal rate (US§ - Gold franc) ?

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Greetings,
Cordialement, Bruno

Billns

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Jan 10, 2012, 5:18:43 PM1/10/12

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On 1/10/2012 2:12 PM, bc92 wrote:
> I am afraid this usenet ng is quite dead with nearly zero messages
> nowadays.
>
> Who says no ?
>
> http://cjoint.com/?BAkxccbPvJc
>
> I would need a documented explanation for this postage due 43 gold
> centimes tax (0,43 gold francs) to 14 US-cents in 1960. What was the
> official postal rate (US§ - Gold franc) ?
>

Many ISP's do not support newsgroups anymore. I use NNTP AIOE ORG as my
newsgroup account.

Bill

Pierre COURTIADE

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Jan 10, 2012, 7:54:38 PM1/10/12

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bc92 a ï¿œcrit :

> I am afraid this usenet ng is quite dead with nearly zero messages
> nowadays.
> Who says no ?

Hi Bruno,

You are right, alas ....

> http://cjoint.com/?BAkxccbPvJc
>
> I would need a documented explanation for this postage due 43 gold
> centimes tax (0,43 gold francs) to 14 US-cents in 1960. What was the

> official postal rate (USï¿œ - Gold franc) ?

I am not at all a specialist of this kind of thing.
But perhaps could it be possible to read 0,93 instead of 0,43 ?
In any case these figures have been written by a French. If it was by an
American, the writing would be .93 or .43.

HTH

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All the best,
Pierre

Pierre COURTIADE

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Jan 10, 2012, 7:56:15 PM1/10/12

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> On 1/10/2012 2:12 PM, bc92 wrote:
>> I am afraid this usenet ng is quite dead with nearly zero messages
>> nowadays.

>> ..............

Billns wrote :

> Many ISP's do not support newsgroups anymore.
> I use NNTP AIOE ORG as my newsgroup account.

Hi Bill,

So does Bruno !

Personnally, my ISP still supports newsgroups and I am quite happy of
this.

The absence of support by many ISP's to newsgroups is not really very
new and a lot of other factors explain that there are less and less
messages in these kind of Usenet newsgroups.

One of them beeing that it is not possible to attach an image to a
message. This was undestandable years ago when everyone had a low speed
connection. Now nearly everybody is able to transmit in ADSL or
equivalent thus the limitation on messages sizes is quite frustrating.

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All the best,
Pierre Courtiade
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to answer me, please replace NOSPAM by my family name

Billns

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Jan 11, 2012, 7:20:07 PM1/11/12

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On 1/10/2012 4:56 PM, Pierre COURTIADE wrote:

> One of them beeing that it is not possible to attach an image to a
> message. This was undestandable years ago when everyone had a low speed
> connection. Now nearly everybody is able to transmit in ADSL or
> equivalent thus the limitation on messages sizes is quite frustrating.
>

I believe some alt. newsgroups allow attaching messages, but there seems
to be even less activity in these groups. I see one message in
alt.collecting.stamps.

Bill

bc92

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Jan 12, 2012, 5:10:56 PM1/12/12

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On 11/01/2012 01:54, Pierre COURTIADE wrote :

>
> I am not at all a specialist of this kind of thing.
> But perhaps could it be possible to read 0,93 instead of 0,43 ?
> In any case these figures have been written by a French. If it was by an
> American, the writing would be .93 or .43.

No, Pierre, it's definitely 0,43 (or .43) gold francs of the UPU system.
I discussed recently about another cover (1961) with 12 cents postage
due stamps and a 37 gold centimes UPU tax due mention. The proportion is
the same : 12 / 37 = 14 / 43

0,43 Gold-F as equivalent to 14 cents, that makes 0.326 US$ for a
(postal) gold franc. I was just wondering if there was anything official
within US postal service about that figure.

And yes, the UPU tax due value in gold francs should be written by the
departure postal authority.

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Greetings, Bruno

Victor Manta

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Jan 15, 2012, 5:46:49 PM1/15/12

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"Pierre COURTIADE" <cour...@libre.fr> wrote in message
news:4f0cde3d$0$23002$426a...@news.free.fr...
> bc92 a écrit :

>> I am afraid this usenet ng is quite dead with nearly zero messages
>> nowadays.
>> Who says no ?
>
>
> Hi Bruno,
>
> You are right, alas ....
>

I don't know about this group but we're still standing :-)

Victor

Blair (TC)

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Feb 1, 2012, 1:38:04 AM2/1/12

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Salut Bruno:

I suggest you read trhe article at:

http://greatbritainphilately.blogspot.com/2011/02/postage-due-mail-international.html

You will see that the rate of exchange between the different
currencies and
the UPU Gold Franc changed over the years.

For example, the British penny (1d) was valued at :

10 gold centimes until April 30, 1940
08 gold centimes until August 31, 1948
07 gold centimes until September 30, 1950
05 gold centimes starting October 01, 1950

MOROCCO (Maroc) AUG (Aout) 1939

9 francs = 1 franc d'or

ALGERIA (Algerie) AUG (Aout) 1944

16 francs = 1 franc d'or

FRANCE JUNE (Juin) 1947

40 francs = 1 franc d'or

FRANCE AUGUST (Aout) 1948

72 Francs = 1 Franc d'or

USA JUNE (Juin) 1949

$0.20 US = 1 franc d'or

Bonne journée
Blair

Blair (TC)

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Feb 1, 2012, 2:12:13 AM2/1/12

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On Feb 1, 1:38 am, "Blair (TC)" <stann...@sonetis.com> wrote:
> On Jan 10, 5:12 pm, bc92 <bc...@free.fr> wrote:

ADDENDUM

USA 1960-61

$0.20 us = 60 gold centimes

$0.33 us = 1 franc d'or

Victor Manta

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Feb 2, 2012, 4:46:39 PM2/2/12

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"Blair (TC)" <stan...@sonetis.com> wrote in message
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Blair, I'm happy reading you again on RCSD!

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bc92

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Feb 4, 2012, 4:15:38 AM2/4/12

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Le 01/02/2012 07:38, Blair (TC) wrote :

> Salut Bruno:
>
> I suggest you read trhe article at:
>
> http://greatbritainphilately.blogspot.com/2011/02/postage-due-mail-international.html

[snip for brevity]

Hello Blair,

Thanks a lot! This article, as well as the whole blog, are full of
nuggets (quite relevant when speaking of gold francs). Now bookmarked.

Best regards,
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Cordialement, Bruno

Blair (TC)

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Feb 5, 2012, 11:21:53 PM2/5/12

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On Feb 2, 4:46 pm, "Victor Manta" <manvic_99SP...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Blair (TC)" <stann...@sonetis.com> wrote in message

>
> news:a4b8ed32-b03d-40ca...@o12g2000vbd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Feb 1, 1:38 am, "Blair (TC)" <stann...@sonetis.com> wrote:
> >> On Jan 10, 5:12 pm, bc92 <bc...@free.fr> wrote:
>
> > ADDENDUM
>
> > USA 1960-61
>
> > $0.20 us = 60 gold centimes
>
> > $0.33 us = 1 franc d'or
>
> Blair, I'm happy reading you again on RCSD!
>
> --
> Victor Manta
> The one of SNA
>

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> Spanish North Africa:http://www.sna-on.postalstamps.biz/

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THANKS. IT IS GOOD TO BE BACK, IF ONLY INTERMITTANTLY.

Blair (TC)

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Feb 5, 2012, 11:22:40 PM2/5/12

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On Feb 4, 4:15 am, bc92 <bc...@free.fr> wrote:
> Le 01/02/2012 07:38, Blair (TC) wrote :
>
> > Salut Bruno:
>
> > I suggest you read trhe article at:
>

> >http://greatbritainphilately.blogspot.com/2011/02/postage-due-mail-in...

>
> [snip for brevity]
>
> Hello Blair,
>
> Thanks a lot! This article, as well as the whole blog, are full of
> nuggets (quite relevant when speaking of gold francs). Now bookmarked.
>
> Best regards,
> --
> Cordialement, Bruno

You are most welcome, Bruno