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whitetiger

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Nov 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/11/98
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Recently, I've had some mail to the UK returned with a rubber stamped
'GONE AWAY' marked on the envelope. As a North American, I am used to
'No longer at this address', etc. Does 'GONE AWAY' mean that the
recipient has moved or that she is on holidays and not having mail
redirected or held? I'm sure someone from the UK can enlighten me as to
this. Thanks in advance.
Best wishes,
Shane

PeterD

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Nov 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/11/98
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A UK collector would know better than me, but I think it's the equivalent of
"RTS-AU" (Return To Sender-Address unknown -- and no singing, OK!)
--
Peter Dolman
Consultant/Technologist
**Edit my address to reply**

whitetiger wrote in message <3649C638...@coastnet.com>...

R J Cardy

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Nov 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/11/98
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whitetiger wrote in message <3649C638...@coastnet.com>...
>'GONE AWAY' = Moved, no forward address or re-direction instruction

Graeme Sherman

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Nov 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/11/98
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I us it to mean "Please return to sender addressee no longer at this
adddress".
GS

PeterD wrote:
>
> A UK collector would know better than me, but I think it's the equivalent of
> "RTS-AU" (Return To Sender-Address unknown -- and no singing, OK!)
> --
> Peter Dolman
> Consultant/Technologist
> **Edit my address to reply**
>

> whitetiger wrote in message <3649C638...@coastnet.com>...

Arwel Parry

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Nov 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/11/98
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In article <3649C638...@coastnet.com>, whitetiger
<white...@coastnet.com> writes

>Recently, I've had some mail to the UK returned with a rubber stamped
>'GONE AWAY' marked on the envelope. As a North American, I am used to
>'No longer at this address', etc. Does 'GONE AWAY' mean that the
>recipient has moved

Yes

>or that she is on holidays and not having mail
>redirected or held?

That's an interesting idea - it would never occur to me to redirect my
mail when I'm on holiday (I don't even think the post office will do
it). Usually the only stuff the postman takes away with him are items
that need a signature or money (like customs charges), in which case I
have to go to the sorting office with ID to pick it up. When I come back
from 10 days or 2 weeks away, there's usually a large pile of mail
behind my front door!

>I'm sure someone from the UK can enlighten me as to
>this. Thanks in advance.
>Best wishes,
>Shane

--
Arwel Parry
http://www.cartref.demon.co.uk/

Tony Brown

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Nov 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/11/98
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whitetiger (white...@coastnet.com) writes:
> Recently, I've had some mail to the UK returned with a rubber stamped
> 'GONE AWAY' marked on the envelope. As a North American, I am used to
> 'No longer at this address', etc. Does 'GONE AWAY' mean that the
> recipient has moved or that she is on holidays and not having mail
> redirected or held? I'm sure someone from the UK can enlighten me as to
> this. Thanks in advance.

I don't know the exact answer to this question, but it struck me that
"FADED AWAY" would be suitable for use with respect to soldiers. :)


Ray McNaughton

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Nov 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/11/98
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In article <3649C638...@coastnet.com>, whitetiger
<white...@coastnet.com> writes

>Recently, I've had some mail to the UK returned with a rubber stamped
>'GONE AWAY' marked on the envelope. As a North American, I am used to
>'No longer at this address', etc. Does 'GONE AWAY' mean that the
>recipient has moved or that she is on holidays and not having mail
>redirected or held? I'm sure someone from the UK can enlighten me as to
>this. Thanks in advance.
>Best wishes,
>Shane
I don't really know what this means, but I would be surprised if it
referred to someone who has moved and/or gone on holiday. Having moved
house relatively recently myself, I have received letters addressed to
previous occupants of the address, and was informed by the P.O. that
they were legally obliged to deliver to the address, even if the person
named no longer lived there. Consequently, I can only imagine that
"gone away" means that the address itself no longer exists.
--
Ray McNaughton
(England)

Arwel Parry

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Nov 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/14/98
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In article <ydYTMAA6...@mirzam.demon.co.uk>, Ray McNaughton
<ray...@mirzam.demon.co.uk> writes

This isn't the case. The P.O. is required to deliver them to the
address, but the new occupier then writes "Gone Away" or "Not Known At
This Address" on the front, and puts it back in a post-box. It's then up
to the P.O. to return it to the original sender.

dcuidet

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Nov 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/15/98
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Just a few word to remember to all that, according to UPU rules, the
mentions on international mail must be written in french : look at the +ACI-A
Prioritaire+ACI- or +ACI-Par avion+ACI- labels.

As it is not :
+ACo- maybe the rules are not known by the english postmen : British mail have
been privatized, it is no longer a public service, they have to make money,
rules are forbidden in a liberal mind,
+ACo- maybe the mention has not been written by a postman,

The correct mention is +ACI-Inconnu - Retour +AOA- l'envoyeur+ACI-

D. Cuidet

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whitetiger a +AOk-crit dans le message +ADw-3649C638.5765FCB1+AEA-coastnet.com+AD4-...
+AD4-Recently, I've had some mail to the UK returned with a rubber stamped
+AD4-'GONE AWAY' marked on the envelope. As a North American, I am used to
+AD4-'No longer at this address', etc. Does 'GONE AWAY' mean that the
+AD4-recipient has moved or that she is on holidays and not having mail
+AD4-redirected or held? I'm sure someone from the UK can enlighten me as to
+AD4-this. Thanks in advance.
+AD4-Best wishes,
+AD4-Shane

John Ray

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Nov 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/15/98
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dcuidet wrote:

(snip)

> British mail have
> been privatized, it is no longer a public service,

Since when? This is news to me. As far as I am aware, it has not even
been proposed by HM Government.

--
John Ray, London UK.

dcuidet

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Nov 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/15/98
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Sorry, I have confused with British railways, telecom, or electricity, or
with Nederland Mail (look at the recent O cent stamp issued in The
Nederlands).

In France, France Telecom have been privatized, and the Post is no more an
administration, but a public society since 1990. So the collectors find
today in the post offices tons of stuff called +ACI-philatelic+ACI-, with no
interest for philatelists.

D. Cuidet

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contiennent.
To answer, suppress the brackets and the text inside.


John Ray a +AOk-crit dans le message +ADw-364EF143.47BA+AEA-dial.pipex.com+AD4-...
+AD4-dcuidet wrote:
+AD4-
+AD4-(snip)
+AD4-
+AD4APg- British mail have
+AD4APg- been privatized, it is no longer a public service,
+AD4-
+AD4-Since when? This is news to me. As far as I am aware, it has not even
+AD4-been proposed by HM Government.
+AD4-
+AD4---
+AD4-John Ray, London UK.

Matt Swindells

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Nov 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/15/98
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'Gone away' means 'no longer at this address' and is not used by the Royal
Mail since the only way they know a person has moved is if they have paid to
have mail redirected in which case of course the letter would have reached
its addressee.
The Post Office and Royal Mail are NOT yet privatised and make lots of money
from over numerous issues of colourful commemmorative issues and the world's
biggest ever waste of money first day covers.
If not using French breaks UPU rules then the more rules we break the better
!!
Roger S
dcuidet wrote in message <72mavn$1ii$2...@news2.isdnet.net>...

>Just a few word to remember to all that, according to UPU rules, the
>mentions on international mail must be written in french : look at the
+ACI-A
>Prioritaire+ACI- or +ACI-Par avion+ACI- labels.
>
>As it is not :
>+ACo- maybe the rules are not known by the english postmen : British mail
have
>been privatized, it is no longer a public service, they have to make money,
>rules are forbidden in a liberal mind,
>+ACo- maybe the mention has not been written by a postman,
>
>The correct mention is +ACI-Inconnu - Retour +AOA- l'envoyeur+ACI-
>
>D. Cuidet
>
>--
>Pour me r+AOk-pondre, supprimer les parenth+AOg-ses et le texte qu'elles
>contiennent.
>To answer, suppress the brackets and the text inside.
>
>
>whitetiger a +AOk-crit dans le message

Arwel Parry

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Nov 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/15/98
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In article <364EF1...@dial.pipex.com>, John Ray
<jr...@dial.pipex.com> writes
>dcuidet wrote:
>
>(snip)

>
>> British mail have
>> been privatized, it is no longer a public service,
>
>Since when? This is news to me. As far as I am aware, it has not even
>been proposed by HM Government.

Well, they're proposing to sell 49% of it, but it hasn't happened yet
and I imagine they haven't heard the last of it...

R J Cardy

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Nov 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/16/98
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dcuidet wrote in message <72mavn$1ii$2...@news2.isdnet.net>...
>>+ACo- maybe the rules are not known by the english postmen : British mail
have

>been privatized, it is no longer a public service, they have to make money,


News to me that it has been privatized!!!!

By the way what are the funny (+ACo- etc) characters in your message

Dick

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