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LeeAnn

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Nov 2, 2002, 12:18:00 PM11/2/02
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Can anyone tell me if Maluku Selatan (Indonesia) stamps are legit postage,
or what their status is?

Thanks

LeeAnn


Tracy Barber

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Nov 2, 2002, 12:45:29 PM11/2/02
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On Sat, 2 Nov 2002 12:18:00 -0500, "LeeAnn" <lee...@sremmapsetahi.com>
wrote:

>Can anyone tell me if Maluku Selatan (Indonesia) stamps are legit postage,
>or what their status is?

LeeAnn -

They are not legit stamps. They look nice, but are not legit.

Next order of business - if you need help selling your wares, please
learn more about the hobby on your own. There are people here who are
collecting stamps and their input in answering questions is usually
about those who wish to keep their stamps or at least trade. After
answering your last question, it seemed a bit tacky to see you offer
it for sale later on.

In short - we are not your personal appraisers, OK?

If you want to join us in discussions instead of wasting our time on
your gain, please feel free to do so.

Thanks for your time - please don't waste ours.

Tracy Barber

BTW, since your e-mail bounced back to me, I consider your e-mail
address to be a waste of time.

LeeAnn

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Nov 2, 2002, 2:48:35 PM11/2/02
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Tracy Barber wrote in message <3dc40db6...@news-server.nycap.rr.com>...

>On Sat, 2 Nov 2002 12:18:00 -0500, "LeeAnn" <lee...@sremmapsetahi.com>
>wrote:
>
>They are not legit stamps. They look nice, but are not legit.

Thank you.


TC

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Nov 3, 2002, 6:32:02 AM11/3/02
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On Sat, 2 Nov 2002 12:18:00 -0500, "LeeAnn" <lee...@sremmapsetahi.com>
wrote:

>Can anyone tell me if Maluku Selatan (Indonesia) stamps are legit postage,

stamps prepared by rebel group for the
South Moluccas/ Rep. Maluku Selatan, but
never used.

A nice website of the stamps and
their story can be seen at:
http://www.newsindo.com/siar/rms.html

Blair

Rein Bakhuizen van den Brink

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Nov 3, 2002, 10:32:11 AM11/3/02
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no status, none at all, just pieces of paper produced by some
American stamp dealers that would like to 'support' a South Moluccan
government in exil in the early 50-ies. Nice pieces as well :)

gtx, Rein

>.

LeeAnn

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Nov 3, 2002, 8:27:23 PM11/3/02
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TC wrote in message ...

>On Sat, 2 Nov 2002 12:18:00 -0500, "LeeAnn" <lee...@sremmapsetahi.com>
>wrote:
>stamps prepared by rebel group for the
>South Moluccas/ Rep. Maluku Selatan, but
>never used.
>A nice website of the stamps and their story can be seen at:
>http://www.newsindo.com/siar/rms.html
>
>Blair

Thank You Blair. Wow, quite a piece of history there :)

I have many of these (in mint obviously!) if anyone collects these
"stamps", and is interested in trades. My current interests are
non-definitives of Canada, India, and England of any time frame. (email
lee...@dbitstech.com - reply to author will not work)

Thanks for the info :)

LeeAnn


Rodney

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Nov 3, 2002, 9:06:50 PM11/3/02
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If at any time, you would consider trade of Australian,
I would be happy to offer 100 in exchange for what duplicates you have.

I appreciated the web link, and had presumed all stamps were imperforate
as all mine are, so would welcome the perforated issues.
Rod
Perth WA

LeeAnn

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Nov 3, 2002, 10:26:10 PM11/3/02
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Rodney wrote in message <3dc5d549$1...@usenet.per.paradox.net.au>...

>If at any time, you would consider trade of Australian,
>I would be happy to offer 100 in exchange for what duplicates you have.
>
>I appreciated the web link, and had presumed all stamps were imperforate
>as all mine are, so would welcome the perforated issues.
>Rod
>Perth WA


Thanks for the offer Rodney, but I really have no need for Australian (have
some I'm parting with actually) :)

Here are scans of the ones I have in case anyone is interested in seeing
them. As you can see I have some that are not listed on the web site given
in a previous message in this thread :) They are quite nice.

Please excuse image size; not much point in having them too small to see!

http://www.dbitstech.com/leeann/maluku-selatan-stamps.html

(I'll leave the pics there for a day or two.)

LeeAnn


Rodney

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Nov 3, 2002, 10:49:25 PM11/3/02
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Thanks anyway.
Goodness, I had no idea the range was so extensive.
You shall probably get interest from Thematic collectors.
Rod


Tracy Barber

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Nov 4, 2002, 12:10:49 AM11/4/02
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On Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:49:25 +0800, "Rodney" <rod...@touch88.com.au>
wrote:

>Thanks anyway.
>Goodness, I had no idea the range was so extensive.
>You shall probably get interest from Thematic collectors.

There's quite a few of them. Not only those, but the so called
precursors to Indonesia look somewhat like them and aren't in many
catalogs.

Tracy Barber

LeeAnn

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Nov 4, 2002, 4:02:22 AM11/4/02
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Rodney wrote in message <3dc5...@usenet.per.paradox.net.au>...

If you are really that interested in them Rod, we might be able to work
something out (email me: lee...@dbitstech.com) .... I also collect bank
notes (crisp - even SMALL ones!)... Australia uses those new polymer, don't
you? (apologies if this offends anyone, I see it as a trade, Aussie $ can't
be spent in Canada!! - should this be in market place group?).

LeeAnn


Rodney

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Nov 4, 2002, 5:31:51 AM11/4/02
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Sure,
If no other persons, with more pracatical trades
become apparent, I can certainly mail you polymer notes.
(We have had polymer for years)
I have no knowlege on numismatics, and becoming au fait
with our new notes myself, as our family has just returned from Thailand.
Indicate what values you seek.
(I cannot even assist with Aussie currency links)
Rod

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LeeAnn

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Nov 4, 2002, 1:31:17 PM11/4/02
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Rodney <rod...@touch88.com.au> wrote in message

> Sure,
> If no other persons, with more pracatical trades
> become apparent, I can certainly mail you polymer notes.
> (We have had polymer for years)
> I have no knowlege on numismatics, and becoming au fait
> with our new notes myself, as our family has just returned from Thailand.
> Indicate what values you seek. (I cannot even assist with Aussie currency
links)
> Rod

First come first serve Rod, they're yours. As for details....

Likewise, I have no idea if they even have a cat value or only worth the
paper they're on... (laugh)... could someone help us out? For the polymer
notes, the closer they are to appearing like they do the first day they come
out of the bank, the better (folds, creases, tears, rips, pen marks), but
I'm still interested in circulated :) I'll go peeking around for Aussie
note pics :)

LeeAnn


LeeAnn

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Nov 4, 2002, 2:22:30 PM11/4/02
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LeeAnn wrote in message ...

>>> I'll go peeking around for Aussie note pics :)


Rod: Yikes... all you ever wanted to know and then some: (Australia Polymer
banknotes)
http://www.polymernotes.org/australia.htm

Rodney

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Nov 4, 2002, 5:49:23 PM11/4/02
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Well, OK
It's now up to you to decide the notes required.
I probably can get mint (excuse the pun),
It's not the first time either, I used to trade Thai coins
for stamps last year.
Can you email off list please?, my emails to you bounce.
and I'm sure the group doesn't want to read our going's on.

| Rod: Yikes... all you ever wanted to know and then some: (Australia Polymer
| banknotes)
| http://www.polymernotes.org/australia.htm

Yes, I am proud the way we do things here, you want to see our
New Stamp Catalogues too, they are rather super!

HJ

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Nov 7, 2002, 3:24:14 PM11/7/02
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Hi,
Actually some issues have actually run.

On 25 April 1950 the Republik of South Moluccas (RMS) was proclamated. In
the short period when the RMS was in charge on the islands, the Indonesian
cypher, temple plus RIS overprint and independance issues of 1950 were
overprinted with "Republik Maluku Selatan" plus two bars through the country
name Indonesia. Most of these stamps have been used, and are extremely rare
and valuable.

Later, between 1950 and 1954, for political reasons the glossy issues were
made in the USA, ordered by the Information Office of the South Moluccas
Republic (310, East 44th street New York), the United Nations Lobby office
for the RMS case.

Only one of these series (one year postal services 1951) has been cancelled
CTO.

All others have never been used and are pretty common.

Harry


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Tracy Barber

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Nov 7, 2002, 3:59:40 PM11/7/02
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On Thu, 7 Nov 2002 21:24:14 +0100, "HJ" <hjulsing@-nospam-zonnet.nl>
wrote:

>Hi,
>Actually some issues have actually run.
>
>On 25 April 1950 the Republik of South Moluccas (RMS) was proclamated. In
>the short period when the RMS was in charge on the islands, the Indonesian
>cypher, temple plus RIS overprint and independance issues of 1950 were
>overprinted with "Republik Maluku Selatan" plus two bars through the country
>name Indonesia. Most of these stamps have been used, and are extremely rare
>and valuable.
>
>Later, between 1950 and 1954, for political reasons the glossy issues were
>made in the USA, ordered by the Information Office of the South Moluccas
>Republic (310, East 44th street New York), the United Nations Lobby office
>for the RMS case.
>
>Only one of these series (one year postal services 1951) has been cancelled
>CTO.
>
>All others have never been used and are pretty common.

I was hoping you'd chime in. If anyone needs some info on this
particular part of the world, Harry has quite a few answers. He's
been helpful to me in the past!

Weren't some of these printed in Vienna?

Tracy Barber

A.E. Gelat

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Nov 8, 2002, 12:42:05 PM11/8/02
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Harry, I know very little about the Moluccas. Which islands were part of
the South Moluccas that declared independence? How did it fall and when? I
have a comprehensive atlas, and I don't mind the details.

Tony

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HJ

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Nov 11, 2002, 2:37:14 AM11/11/02
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Tony,

Look for the islands Ambon, Saparoea.Thats where some of the issues were
used.

The north Moluccas start at Palau (island) Morotai, the south are Buru,
Ambon and Seram, just west of New Guinea, Now called Irian Barat.

The Indonesian Army rapidly restored power in the early fifties.As there was
not international / UN support for the Moluccan case, the world forgot,
until recently fights started again.This time between Moslim and Christian
communities.

Tracy,
Thanks for your kind words.

Re your question, only the some of the Indonesian prppaganda stamps, were
printed in Vienna.

Regards Harry

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