The liberal democrap Arab nigger just got his ass handed to him.
Black Scum
slapped into the twilight zone.
Where's the birth certificate for this camel fucking black
bastard?
Jim_Higgins
> your nym says it att
PWT
--
"I have tried to live my life so that my family would love me and my
friends respect me. The others can do whatever the hell they please."
John Wayne
Juan
Tattooed on your white trash ass, coward bitch. You're like all the
other ones, all bark, no bite, hiding behind mommy internet's skirt. :)
Brett Smythe
over a black president.
In online blogs there are plenty of online bloggers calling President Obama
President Obongo, or "president" in quotes as if it is not really so. In
terms of levels of sophistication, this is about on par with a blackface
vaudeville routine. I imagine that it is only a percentage of Tea Party
followers are racists but there is an element of it there. I think the
mistake is to restrict this to Obama. Attitudes to immigration reform also
indicate racial attitudes.
As an Australian, I find it hard to understand the American Right. More than
'ideologically pure', it seems ideologically incoherent to me. They want
small government when it comes to financial issues (though in government
Bush spent trillions on unpopular foreign adventurism) but at the same time
they want government to interfere in private matters like gay marriage and
abortion. Maximum individual freedom to own guns and maximum government
intervention in a woman's fertility choices is a weird mix.
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Missy8S
plans to make you read only what he approves of and see only what he wants
you to see.
Chairman O doesn't believe in the constitution, he sees it as "old
fashioned", "outdated" and accuses it of "living and breathing" and of being
"elastic".
Its called "equal justice under the law" not "social justice" for sycophants
who pay political homage to the regime for undeserved "free" crap.
Get over yourself.
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Jo FLECK
racist language betrays your real concerns...that a black man is in charge
of our country and you cannot accept that.
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Frank Galikanokus
>
> Apparently you haven't been paying much attention to "dear leader" and his
> plans to make you read only what he approves of and see only what he wants
> you to see.
>
> Chairman O doesn't believe in the constitution, he sees it as "old
> fashioned", "outdated" and accuses it of "living and breathing" and of being
> "elastic".
>
> Its called "equal justice under the law" not "social justice" for sycophants
> who pay political homage to the regime for undeserved "free" crap.
>
> Get over yourself.
>
Wow, you've had your head in the FOX shit bag for a long time haven't you.
Trying to reason with a FOX loony is like arguing with a drunk, it's a waste of time.
JAM
Iarnrod
> The dumbest "president" in American history just got bitch-
> slapped into the twilight zone.
>
> Where's the birth certificate
http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/birthCertObama.jpg
Urafuckwit
Frank Galikanokus
Facts just confuse and anger people that have their heads in the FOX shit bag.
JAM
Solar Rad
Hey Frankie, how's the U feel about your using their 'puter resources to
jag off on uselessnet?
Solar Rad
Hey Frank, think Pitt approves of your jacking off on uselesnet using
their resources?
Frank Galikanokus
Nosey little fool aren't you.
If you had ever been within a mile or two of an educational institution you would already
know the answer.
JAM
JJ Wilson
altered.....He's went to Hawaii pretending "grandma" died, but actually
'correcting' his Birth Certificate to make it look genuine! Where is the
voult original?
If he is NOT a Citizen, he CANT be President.
Why isn't anyone asking for his Baptismal Certificate which would of been
done when he was a few days old.
None has ever been provided. Is he actually a Christian ~ or ~ is he truly
a Muslim?
What about the 70% of Military Votes NOT being counted?
Unknown
>
> The Birth Certificate provided on the internet is considered
> altered.....He's went to Hawaii pretending "grandma" died, but actually
> 'correcting' his Birth Certificate to make it look genuine! Where is the
> voult original?
It's in a hidden room at the National Library in D.C.
It's kept next to the *real* signed Constitution and the Roswell Treaty.
You should go there and demand to see it - and don't take "no" for an
answer.
Iarnrod
> The Birth Certificate provided on the internet is considered
> altered.....
No it isn't, fuzznuts. It's the real thing, proven FACT. It's not
considered "altered" by anyone but delusional fuckwits. Hint: Hawaii
says it's real and that settles is.
> He's went to Hawaii pretending "grandma" died,
Hey fuckwit, his grandmother DID die. Stop smoking crack.
> but actually
> 'correcting' his Birth Certificate to make it look genuine!
No such thing happened, moron. The BC was already put online BEFORE he
went to Hawaii, you incredible fuckwitted rightard.
> Where is the
> voult original?
None of your fuckin' business.
> If he is NOT a Citizen, he CANT be President.
Well good thing then that he PROVED that he IS!! In fact he is the
FIRST and ONLY US president in the history of the republic to prove he
is a natural born citizen, you racist goober.
> Why isn't anyone asking for his Baptismal Certificate which would of been
> done when he was a few days old.
Holy SHIT, you incredible moron. READ YOUR CONSTITUTION!! There is no
religious test for office. You do not need to be baptized to be
president. And there is NO rule requiring babies to be baptized when
they are a few days old, anywhere or anytime. Why do you hate America?
> None has ever been provided.
Nor does one need to be provided, fuckwit.
> Is he actually a Christian ~ or ~ is he truly
> a Muslim?
None of your business, but since you asked, fuckwit, he's a Christian.
Remember all your hatred and foaming racism over his going to Rev.
Wright's church for 20 years? At least you could try to keep your lies
consistent with each other.
> What about the 70% of Military Votes NOT being counted?
What about your lies?
Frantisek Baltiska
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celtex
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> President Obama is the greatness leader America has since President
> Kennedy.
>
> ----
branded a right wing nut by your standards today.
David Karki
Their fellow Americans are in fact their enemy? It's positively despicable
to see a president stoop to blatant race-baiting and the sliming of the very
Americans he's supposed to lead. And the only reason he gets away with it is
that it's bigotry aimed at whites, which as far as liberal common wisdom is
concerned, can't possibly exist. But it does and Obama is full of it
(amongst other things).
"We can't have special interests sitting shotgun. We gotta have middle class
families up in front. We don't mind the Republicans joining us. They can
come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."
First of all, Obama is completely delusional. The wrongheaded policies that
he, Pelosi and Reid rammed down America's throat are directly responsible
for the disastrous state of the economy. Stopping and reversing them as soon
as possible will fix it. Not that Obama is the tiniest bit capable of ever
admitting error; he's swallowed whole his own B.S. propaganda about being a
"messiah." He's up there in O.J. and the "real killers" territory,
insanity-wise.
That said, there is a big irony in a black president telling white people
that they must duplicate the conditions that made Rosa Parks' refusal
heroic. This is blatant two-wrongs-make-a-right, you-did-it-to-us-so-we're-going-to-do-it-back-to-you
reverse racism. It's also a total insult to compare his America-destroying
radical Marxist agenda to the justice of the civil rights movement that
ended southern segregation, especially coming from one who grew up in Hawaii
and Indonesia and never experienced that for one second of his life.
(Not that the majority of blacks will notice or care, sadly, so complete is
their blind devotion to liberal welfare-state ideas and a Democratic Party
that have annihilated the black family in a way not even the institution of
slavery approached. That they would project such unmerited hero worship onto
a phony like Obama while sitting quiet as someone who really experienced it
like Clarence Thomas was "high-tech lynched" is beyond sad.)
Moreover, if any white or Republican politician had even come close to the
words "gotta sit in back" in reference to their opposition while talking to
a mostly white group, the racial ambulance chasers (Jackson, Sharpton, et.
al.) and the drive-by media would have pounced like rabid pit bulls on raw
meat and not let their clamped teeth loose until the speaker's career and
life were in tatters and all but dead.
But Obama can spew his bigotry on America like raw sewage into a lake and it's
not even a story, except on Fox News and talk radio. . I guess it figures,
given that Obama's candidacy and presidency are a wholly-owned creation of
the media. They fabricated his story, buried his radical past, ensured that
any question about his constitutional qualifications for the presidency
would never be asked, and generally kept their collective tongue shoved as
far up his butt as it could go in order to ensure his election and with it
the implementation of a far-left agenda. Even if they were somehow inclined
to let him go now, which they aren't, they couldn't do so without completely
destroying what little is left of their own credibility for all time. So
they will continue to prop him up to the bitter end, no matter how vain the
effort.
"My name may not be on the ballot, but our agenda for moving forward is on
the ballot, and I need everybody to turn out," Obama said during an
appearance on the "Rev."
Al Sharpton's radio show.
Our? Given whom Obama's audience was when he said that, it's clear that this
was another naked racial appeal. The supposed "healer" who was going to
bring us all together used blatantly exclusive language to frame an appeal
to vote. Again, if this had been done in the reverse, if a conservative had
said that on Rush Limbaugh's show, the media would have gone apoplectic. And
far from healing, this sort of baiting will tear America apart. A president
who understood that he's president of everyone would understand that. One
who thinks bipartisanship can only mean everyone doing everything he demands
and following his every last marching order - and that anyone who doesn't is
an enemy, or a second-class citizen, of part of "them" hasn't a clue.
2012 can not get here fast enough. His mid-term electoral crushing was the
biggest of a sitting president in history, and a message was sent loud and
clear to the big-eared jungle monkey one who still won't listen to it: We
are deposing King Obama the Racist and beginning to correct One Big Ass
Mistake, America.
Iarnrod
Stop abusing drugs please.
j-rod
>
> Those who would vote to stop Obama's agenda are the enemies of Latinos?
> Their fellow Americans are in fact their enemy? It's positively despicable
> to see a president stoop to blatant race-baiting and the sliming of the very
> Americans he's supposed to lead. And the only reason he gets away with it is
> that it's bigotry aimed at whites, which as far as liberal common wisdom is
> concerned, can't possibly exist. But it does and Obama is full of it
> (amongst other things).
>
> "We can't have special interests sitting shotgun. We gotta have middle class
> families up in front. We don't mind the Republicans joining us. They can
> come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."
>
> First of all, Obama is completely delusional. The wrongheaded policies that
> he, Pelosi and Reid rammed down America's throat
I think that is call a majority vote.
Your just repeating a FOX lie.
are directly responsible
> for the disastrous state of the economy.
Your a bigger fool that anyone thought if you believe that!
Stopping and reversing them as soon
> as possible will fix it. Not that Obama is the tiniest bit capable of ever
> admitting error; he's swallowed whole his own B.S. propaganda about being a
> "messiah." He's up there in O.J. and the "real killers" territory,
> insanity-wise.
Only in your demented mind. Pull your head out of the FOX shit bag.
>
> That said, there is a big irony in a black president telling white people
> that they must duplicate the conditions that made Rosa Parks' refusal
> heroic. This is blatant two-wrongs-make-a-right, you-did-it-to-us-so-we're-going-to-do-it-back-to-you
> reverse racism. It's also a total insult to compare his America-destroying
> radical Marxist agenda
More delusional ranting from the Bizarro World of the right wing nut
jobs.
Your entire screed is nothing but racial hatred, good is bad, freedom is
slavery.
>
> "My name may not be on the ballot, but our agenda for moving forward is on
> the ballot, and I need everybody to turn out," Obama said during an
> appearance on the "Rev."
> Al Sharpton's radio show.
>
> Our? Given whom Obama's audience was when he said that, it's clear that this
> was another naked racial appeal. The supposed "healer" who was going to
> bring us all together used blatantly exclusive language to frame an appeal
> to vote. Again, if this had been done in the reverse, if a conservative had
> said that on Rush Limbaugh's show,
LOL now we know you have your head up Limbaugh's ass!
the media would have gone apoplectic. And
> far from healing, this sort of baiting will tear America apart. A president
> who understood that he's president of everyone would understand that. One
> who thinks bipartisanship can only mean everyone doing everything he demands
> and following his every last marching order - and that anyone who doesn't is
> an enemy, or a second-class citizen, of part of "them" hasn't a clue.
>
> 2012 can not get here fast enough. His mid-term electoral crushing was the
> biggest of a sitting president in history, and a message was sent loud and
> clear to the big-eared jungle monkey one who still won't listen to it:
You really are a jackass.
We
> are deposing King Obama the Racist and beginning to correct One Big Ass
> Mistake, America.
I believe it was a fairly won election.
Now crawl back under you white trash rock.
JAM
Patrick Humpboys
and then decide which party considers many of those points good for America.
Many listed are already in place with others on the way. It may be a good
idea if we parents or grandparents check on the textbooks that are passing
as history books. It's not the history I was taught and it is not the
country I grew up in.
. Outlawed school prayer: ACLU intimidation.
. Eliminated Christmas: Today's holiday greetings.
. Took Easter out of school: It's now spring break.
. Controlled church by intimidation and taxation.
. Thousands of pastors devoted to paganism: Yoga, worship of saints, prayers
to the dead, emergent church ect
. Environment, Mother Nature, global warming hoax, Green Party and animal
rights versus human.
. Eastern mysticism, witchcraft, wiccan: Harry Potter is popular today.
. Reincarnation
. Holocaust kills 8 million to 11 million Jews and others, Not a word about
the 100 million babies killed in abortion. Jewish hypocrisy?
. Killed handicapped and medical experimentation of unfit: Disagreement with
policy? Churches co-heir to the sin by their silence.
. Private schools abolished and placed under governmental control:
Textbooks.
. Prevented radio from religious and conservative broadcasting: Fairness
Doctrine?
. Pastors jailed who spoke against Obama, or against homosexuals -- Hate
speech?
. Christians in America: Secular and sacred being separated.
. Fascinated by Nietzsche who wrote God is dead and life has no meaning: A
most-read book in USA and popular with many of our leaders including the
president and in colleges.
. Exploited economics into socialism: What path is U.S. on today with
government ownership of our resources?
. Globalization: With the U.N. growing more powerful, nationalism is fading,
including the USA. Our monetary payment is the largest of any member nation
with only one vote for U.S. in the U.N.
. Darwinism: We are not taught Creationism in our schools.
. Government medicine: With our new health plan provide benefit for all or
will we have death panels?
. Most of the churches in Germany had accepted Nazism reflecting the culture
instead of the truth: Will the churches in America stand up for truth or is
are they already bending to the culture that is forced upon us?
This country is being swept away from we the people at such a pace that we
have begun to think that "we" aren't important in the schemes of those in
power. They are supposed to work for us, listen to us, represent us, and I
think with a president who has to apologize to leaders of nations that have
nothing but contempt for USA and to distance us from those nations that were
our friends and allies has put patriotism on the lowest level of his
priorities.
We say God bless America, but now I think that we can only say, God blessed
America.
Bremick
"Patrick Humpboys" <pat...@io.com> wrote in message
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> Read the following list and then consider what is going on in our country
> and then decide which party considers many of those points good for
> America. Many listed are already in place with others on the way. It may
> be a good idea if we parents or grandparents check on the textbooks that
> are passing as history books. It's not the history I was taught and it is
> not the country I grew up in.
>
>
> . Outlawed school prayer: ACLU intimidation.
(Do you need group prayer? Find time in your busy day to pray to your
heart's content)
>
> . Eliminated Christmas: Today's holiday greetings.
(I still celebrate Christmas and have yet to encounter a problem wishing
people Merry Christmas. Do whatever satisfies you. 50 years ago, the same
type of people with nothing better to do used to look for satanic symbolism
in "Xmas".)
>
> . Took Easter out of school: It's now spring break.
(Easter never was "in school" beyond about the third grade. Are you
suggesting that school children are no longer aware of Easter?)
>
> . Controlled church by intimidation and taxation.
(I must be missing that. Where have you been attending?)
>
> . Thousands of pastors devoted to paganism: Yoga, worship of saints,
> prayers to the dead, emergent church ect
(I must have missed that too. Those thousands must be clustered
together in some out of the way town.)
>
> . Environment, Mother Nature, global warming hoax, Green Party and animal
> rights versus human.
(And this affects you how? You don't do your own thing based on your
own beliefs?)
>
> . Eastern mysticism, witchcraft, wiccan: Harry Potter is popular today.
(Let kids alone. Times change. Hopalong and Roy were popular when I
was a kid. Today, the cops might arrest your son down if he walked the
streets wearing a Hoppy gun and holster set We survived.)
>
> . Reincarnation
(You plan on staying around?)
>
> . Holocaust kills 8 million to 11 million Jews and others, Not a word
> about the 100 million babies killed in abortion. Jewish hypocrisy?
(Are Jews the ones who are tasked with commenting on abortions around
the world?)
>
> . Killed handicapped and medical experimentation of unfit: Disagreement
> with policy? Churches co-heir to the sin by their silence.
(Again, this must be happening in your town. I haven't encountered it
yet.)
>
> . Private schools abolished and placed under governmental control:
> Textbooks.
(C'mon over here. There are plenty of private schools with a variety of
curriculum.)
>
> . Prevented radio from religious and conservative broadcasting: Fairness
> Doctrine?
(Y'know, I could've sworn I heard some conservative broadcasting the
other day.)
>
> . Pastors jailed who spoke against Obama, or against homosexuals -- Hate
> speech?
(Can you name one or two?)
>
> . Christians in America: Secular and sacred being separated.
(In whose eyes? I know of no organized effort to do such a thing. I
don't even know how it could be done.)
>
> . Fascinated by Nietzsche who wrote God is dead and life has no meaning: A
> most-read book in USA and popular with many of our leaders including the
> president and in colleges.
( I submit that there are more Americans who are unemployed than there
are those who have ever heard of Nietzsche.)
>
> . Exploited economics into socialism: What path is U.S. on today with
> government ownership of our resources?
(Hopefully not a consistent one. There's certainly some work to be done
there.)
>
> . Globalization: With the U.N. growing more powerful, nationalism is
> fading, including the USA. Our monetary payment is the largest of any
> member nation with only one vote for U.S. in the U.N.
(The UN growing more powerful?? You must live in some small third world
country.)
>
> . Darwinism: We are not taught Creationism in our schools.
(For good reason. You want creationism? Try a parochial school.
You'll only get one side there, too.)
>
> . Government medicine: With our new health plan provide benefit for all or
> will we have death panels?
(Sorry to see you're still hung up on "death panels". That issue died a
few months ago.)
>
> . Most of the churches in Germany had accepted Nazism reflecting the
> culture instead of the truth: Will the churches in America stand up for
> truth or is are they already bending to the culture that is forced upon
> us?
(If any of this affects how you choose to worship, you'll soon develop
ulcers. Stop trying to be so profound and say a prayer.).
>
> This country is being swept away from we the people at such a pace that we
> have begun to think that "we" aren't important in the schemes of those in
> power. They are supposed to work for us, listen to us, represent us, and I
> think with a president who has to apologize to leaders of nations that
> have nothing but contempt for USA and to distance us from those nations
> that were our friends and allies has put patriotism on the lowest level of
> his priorities.
(This country is made up of individuals who have the option of thinking
for themselves. Unfortunately, individuals are free to listen to talk
radio, too. If you're old enough to vote, you supposedly voted for the
individual who best represents your views. If that didn't work out, then
you're apparently in the minority. Stuff happens. Too bad you don't get to
vote for every one of the reps and senators whose vote could affect you. Do
you really expect the rep from a New Mexico district to "work for" you in
New Hampshire? It's hard enough to get your own state congressmen to look
out for you, never mind the 500+ others. And sorry if you're worried about
someone threatening your patriotism.)
>
> We say God bless America, but now I think that we can only say, God
> blessed America.
(I think you forgot to put that in quotes and credit where you heard or
read it. You have no original parting comment?)
Happy Thanksgiving
Tom Jernigan
hatred that a black man is in the White House.
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Iarnrod
Stop abusing drugs, kook.
TeaPartyPatriot4Ever
Obama is systematically dismantling the U.S. economy
Obama Exhibit's Potential as a Marxist Dictator
Obama is weakening America's defenses
Obama appears to be thoroughly incompetent
Obama hates America
Obama has appointed czars, a feature of Communist Russia
Obama has nationized the banks
Obama has never held a real job
Obama has Nationalized General Motors and Chrysler
Preferential Treatment of the Black Panthers
Obama is not a natural born citizen
Obama has a deepseated hatred of white people
Obama does'nt have a valid Social Security number
BoomerAngst
reason.oh, that was Bush.
>Obama is systematically dismantling the U.S. economy
Since Obama took office, the US economy has been growing, not shrinking
every quarter. Unemployment is down, employment is up and retail sales is
higher than in the past five years (consumerism is our national product).
>Obama Exhibit's Potential as a Marxist Dictator
Look up Marxist Dictator and then get back to us with specifics to support
your claim.
>Obama is weakening America's defenses
Obama has not changed one single National Security Policy and has even
toughened some security. Your statement is complete hogwash that even
O'reilly would call you an idiot for saying.
>Obama appears to be thoroughly incompetent
At what?
>Obama hates America
This statement does nothing more than make you look like a moron.
>Obama has appointed czars, a feature of Communist Russia
The President that first created the job of "Czar" was Reagan. Was he a
Communist?
>Obama has nationized the banks
That was the Bush Administration genius.
>Obama has Nationalized General Motors and Chrysler
Not only did his move keep them from going belly up, but it allowed them to
restructure and go public raising so much stock that US is no longer a major
share holder...try reading a newspaper sometime.
>Preferential Treatment of the Black Panthers
Where did you come up with this one?
>Obama is not a natural born citizen
Birther huh? That explains your other reasoning skills
>Obama has a deepseated hatred of white people
A smear from Glenn Beck, the gold coin swindler
>Obama does'nt have a valid Social Security number
Guess you do'nt know where the apostrophe goes.
Unknown
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> Obama's crimes which must be investigated ----
None of those things are crimes.
First Post
<boome...@att.net> wrote:
>>Obama's crimes which must be investigated
>Which crimes? Attacking a country and overthrowing a government for no
>reason.oh, that was Bush.
>
>>Obama is systematically dismantling the U.S. economy
>Since Obama took office, the US economy has been growing, not shrinking
>every quarter. Unemployment is down, employment is up and retail sales is
>higher than in the past five years (consumerism is our national product).
Unemployment remains at roughly 10 percent genius. Only a fucking
retard sees 10% as being better than 7% regarding unemployment.
>
>>Obama Exhibit's Potential as a Marxist Dictator
>Look up Marxist Dictator and then get back to us with specifics to support
>your claim.
What he keeps preaching about taking from those based upon their
ability to pay and giving to those based upon their needs is straight
out of the Karl Marx handbook.
>
>>Obama is weakening America's defenses
>Obama has not changed one single National Security Policy and has even
>toughened some security. Your statement is complete hogwash that even
>O'reilly would call you an idiot for saying.
By sitting on his fucking thumbs while apoloigizing to every shithole
thrid world dicatator in the world as they lob rockets at our allies
that we have mutual defense treaties with.
>
>>Obama appears to be thoroughly incompetent
>At what?
Name it. His healthcare plan is fucking people in the ass more each
day. He's about to cause EVERYONE's taxes to go up, not just the
"evil rich" like you koolaid drinking fools keep believing and he
takes multimillion dollar vacations on the taxpayers dime while
telling everyone else to conserve.
>
>>Obama hates America
>This statement does nothing more than make you look like a moron.
>
>>Obama has appointed czars, a feature of Communist Russia
>The President that first created the job of "Czar" was Reagan. Was he a
>Communist?
>
>>Obama has nationized the banks
>That was the Bush Administration genius.
Nope, wrong again dumbshit. The bill you refer to was authored and
pushed by the democrats and then openly praised by Obama, Clinton,
Pelosi and Biden. So you acting like Obama had nothing to do with it
and didin;t support it just shows you to be a bald faced liar.
>
>>Obama has Nationalized General Motors and Chrysler
>Not only did his move keep them from going belly up, but it allowed them to
>restructure and go public raising so much stock that US is no longer a
>major share holder...try reading a newspaper sometime.
Bullshit. Provide a cite moron.
Currently GM is still indebted to the US for millions.
>
>>Preferential Treatment of the Black Panthers
>Where did you come up with this one?
The fact that his justice department said that they saw no evidence of
any voter intimidation even with the video and audio that proves it.
>
>>Obama is not a natural born citizen
>Birther huh? That explains your other reasoning skills
>
>>Obama does'nt have a valid Social Security number
>Guess you do'nt know where the apostrophe goes.
OOO a speliing flame. Guess that means you have nothing substantial
to say. Typical.
Now run away and change your nym again chickenshit.
Unknown
> What he keeps preaching about taking from those based upon their
> ability to pay and giving to those based upon their needs is straight
> out of the Karl Marx handbook.
He never preached any such thing.
You just made that up to scare yourself and your fellow Republicans - and it
is working remarkably well.
Beanie
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>>Preferential Treatment of the Black Panthers
> Where did you come up with this one?
>
were standing outside a polling place with clubs and bats in an attempt to
intimidate voters into not voting.
This is a Federal crime, clearly prosecutable but for the preferential treatment
accorded African-Americans by the current administration.
But you already knew that, didn't you?
Frank Provasek
> "BoomerAngst" <boomeran...@att.net> wrote in message
# The Bush administration’s Justice Department — not the Obama
administration — made the decision not to pursue criminal charges
against members of the New Black Panther Party for alleged voter
intimidation at a polling center in Philadelphia in 2008;
# The Obama administration successfully obtained default judgment
against Samir Shabazz, a member of the New Black Panther Party
carrying a nightstick outside the Philadelphia polling center on
Election Day 2008;
# The Bush administration DOJ chose not to pursue similar charges
against members of the Minutemen, one of whom allegedly carried a
weapon while harassing Hispanic voters in Arizona in 2006;
# No voters have come forward to claim that they were intimidated from
voting on account of the New Black Panthers standing outside the
polling center in 2008;
----
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Beanie
"Frank Provasek" <fr...@frankcoins.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 30, 10:36 am, "Beanie" <b...@e.ne> wrote:
> "BoomerAngst" <boomeran...@att.net> wrote in message
>
> news:icvjtt$4ga$1...@speranza.aioe.org...>>Preferential Treatment of the Black
> Panthers
> > Where did you come up with this one?
>
> Obama's Justice Dept. failed to prosecute members of the Black Panther Party
> who
> were standing outside a polling place with clubs and bats in an attempt to
> intimidate voters into not voting.
> This is a Federal crime, clearly prosecutable but for the preferential
> treatment
> accorded African-Americans by the current administration.
> But you already knew that, didn't you?
# The Bush administration’s Justice Department — not the Obama
administration — made the decision not to pursue criminal charges
against members of the New Black Panther Party for alleged voter
intimidation at a polling center in Philadelphia in 2008;
Lie #1
# The Obama administration successfully obtained default judgment
against Samir Shabazz, a member of the New Black Panther Party
carrying a nightstick outside the Philadelphia polling center on
Election Day 2008;
Lie #2
# The Bush administration DOJ chose not to pursue similar charges
against members of the Minutemen, one of whom allegedly carried a
weapon while harassing Hispanic voters in Arizona in 2006;
Lie #3
# No voters have come forward to claim that they were intimidated from
voting on account of the New Black Panthers standing outside the
polling center in 2008;
Lie #4
Obama's administration is rabidly anti-white and pro-minority.
Witness the abject failure to enforce immigration laws.
Witness the multi-billion dollar handouts given to minority farmers, merely
because they are black.
Obama isn't even a citizen of the USA and should be impeached for that alone.
I thank the God that Obama depises that Obama will be a one term president
Bremick
"Beanie" <b...@e.ne> wrote in message news:id3ieu$qpq$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
Lie #5
> Witness the abject failure to enforce immigration laws.
Lie #6
> Witness the multi-billion dollar handouts given to minority farmers,
> merely because they are black.
Lie #7
> Obama isn't even a citizen of the USA and should be impeached for that
> alone.
Lie #8
> I thank the God that Obama depises that Obama will be a one term president
Truth #1 That's true. You do think that way.
j-rod
Frank, the facts will just make their tiny brains hurt and piss them
off.
JAM
ygbsm
"Frank Provasek" <fr...@frankcoins.com> wrote in message
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=================================
Nicely done, but this reminds me of an image that came to mind many years
ago in tangling with kooks - you might call it the BBOBB effect: BBs
Bouncing Off a Bowling Ball. The BBs are facts, and no matter how many or
how hard you throw, they never penetrate the rock-hard surface/cranium.
They just bounce off without even leaving a dent.
So... four BBs fired, no visible effect. Don't let that stop you. I kept
firing them not because I expected the kook to reconsider, but for the
benefit of others who needed to see the factual rebuttals.
Frank Provasek
>
> Frank, the facts will just make their tiny brains hurt and piss them
> off.
>
...as Americans elected our first black president, the right-wing
media began a relentless campaign to portray Barack Obama's victory as
auguring the rise of black racism. The story eventually found its way
into the mainstream press.
The idea is that whites are being oppressed, much as Southern blacks
were warned away from polling places by Klansmen and violent cops in
the pre-civil rights era. But this Philadelphia neighborhood is almost
entirely black, and no white voters - or, for that matter, any voters
- complained of intimidation
We occupy an ever more alternate universe, in which tea partyers
pretend to be victims of Obama's "deep-seated hatred for white
people," as Glenn Beck put it. Yet at ground zero of one such supposed
victimization, I couldn't find the hate - save for one solitary, if
expertly drawn, caricature. If Fox News wants to talk about race, a
conversation with real people might be a good place to start.
Craig Anderson
daily, mocking its founders, bullying its supporters, and doing everything
he can to turn this once great nation into a shell of its former self.
Jim_Higgins
He doesn't like coins? What relevance does your rant have in a coin
newsgroup?
--
"I have tried to live my life so that my family would love me and my
friends respect me. The others can do whatever they please."
John Wayne
Frank Turek
attorney David Limbaugh
http://members.humaneventsonline.com/visitor.php?offer=2136
"Generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children
that this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our
planet began to heal," and that "we are the ones we've been waiting for."
That, of course, was Barack Obama upon securing his party's nomination for
president.
It didn't take generations but only a couple of years for a majority of
Americans to begin to realize that instead of messianic healing, Barack
Obama is inflicting unprecedented injuries on America and the liberties of
its citizens. This book documents this alarming news in a very comprehensive
yet readable way. It is the one book all Americans should read before
November.
Before you dismiss "Crimes Against Liberty" because it is written by a
Limbaugh (after all, you're not a bigot, right?), realize that people can
present evidence objectively even if they personally are not neutral. First,
neutral people rarely have the interest or expertise to write books! But
more importantly, you can't dismiss what Limbaugh says simply because he
might have a conservative agenda. That's a fallacy that cuts both
ways--you'd have to dismiss everything Obama says because he has a liberal
agenda. The truth is, everyone has an agenda. The issue is not the agenda,
but the evidence one presents!
Like the good attorney he is, Limbaugh presents a wealth of irrefutable
evidence for his thesis quoting several liberals along the way. His
meticulously researched indictment of Barack Obama and his Administration
lays out fact after fact that will educate even political junkies who
mistakenly thought they knew it all. I follow politics closely, but I didn't
know the extent to which those currently in power are dismantling our
liberties and security until I read this book.
Since "Crimes Against Liberty" is over 500 pages (including nearly 100 pages
of endnotes), I can only summarize a small number of facts that Limbaugh
presents about the Obama Administration. You need to get the book to
appreciate the breadth of the problem--a problem that most in the major
media have failed to report.
Limbaugh documents that Obama usurps rights and laws. For example:
* Obama admitted that he doesn't care about the lawmaking process just the
result. David Axelrod also expressed this same sentiment, which strikes the
heart of the American system--the process does matter. We are a nation of
laws not men.
* Obama decided to give $140 billion to the IMF without Congressional
approval. Even Congressional liberals objected to this.
* His EPA classified carbon dioxide as a toxic air pollutant and then
claimed authority to set emissions standards without Congressional approval.
(A toxic pollutant? It's plant food!)
* Obama's Department of Justice dismissed a case against the new Black
Panther party that had clear video evidence of voter intimidation. Todd
Graziano, Member of US Commission on Civil Rights, says there is a culture
in the DOJ where they "don't believe the voting rights laws should ever be
enforced against blacks and other minorities." So much for "equal
protection" guaranteed by the Constitution.
* Obama threatened legal action against some companies (such as Humana) for
informing their customers about the potential problems with Obamacare. That
is the government seeking to criminalize free speech!
* The Obama Administration asked Americans to report their friends for
circulating emails critical of ObamaCare. Can you say Big Brother?
* Obama also sent unsolicited emails to federal workers urging them to
support ObamaCare. Some workers complained privately about the partisan
emails but they feared retribution if they went public.
* Obama has been pushing for "Net Neutrality Rules" to seize control of, or
to shut down, portions of the Internet.
Limbaugh shows that Obama often leads by slander and intimidation. For
example:
* Tom Lauria, an attorney in the Chrysler bailout negotiations, claimed,
"One of my clients was directly threatened by the White House and, in
essence, compelled to withdraw his opposition to the deal under the threat
of the full force of the White House press corps would destroy its
reputation if it continued to fight." Why was Lauria's client opposing the
deal? Because Obama offered his UAW buddies 50 cents on the dollar for their
unsecured debt while offering Lauria's client only 33 cents on the dollar
for their secured debt. This is contrary to fundamental bankruptcy laws.
Limbaugh observes, "Here was the President of the United States, again,
attacking the reputation and integrity of a private firm merely for
asserting its rights in the negotiation.... Obama picks winners and losers
based on political allegiance and cronyism--the rule of law be damned." Even
mild-mannered Michael Barone called this "Gangster Government."
* Obama used civil rights language ("discrimination") to slander insurance
companies for lawfully excluding people with pre-existing conditions. He
later inadvertently admitted that's necessary otherwise patients could game
the system and get insurance only after getting sick.
* As if it was his money, Obama threatened to withhold stimulus money from
Arizona because Senator Kyl said on TV that the stimulus wasn't helping the
economy.
* Obama abruptly fired Americorps Inspector General Gerald Walpin--who was
tasked to ferret out government corruption and to protect whistleblowers--as
Walpin was uncovering misuse of a federal grant by an Obama crony. Limbaugh
writes of the cover up by the White House after the firing. (It's alarming
that the man tasked to protect government whistleblowers needs whistleblower
protection himself from the President of the United States!)
* Obama and others in his Administration have characterized states rights
people, pro-lifers, and war veterans as rightwing "extremists" and potential
terrorists. (This from a man who in Illinois twice voted against protecting
live babies who survived abortion, and who refuses to call real terrorists,
like the Fort Hood shooter, what they are.)
* Tea Party people are "tea baggers" and "anti-government" "extremists."
(What a unifier our President is!)
* People who object to homosexual behavior possess "worn arguments and old
attitudes." (Yes, Mr. President, the truth is very old indeed; it's
impervious to hope and change.)
* Doctors are unethical because they do unnecessary surgery to make money.
(Obama avoids mentioning unethical behavior by the Democrat-contributing
trial lawyers who dramatically drive up health care costs through bogus
malpractice lawsuits.)
* Business people are "fat cats" making "immoral" and "obscene" profits
(while Obama rakes in $2.5 million in book royalties and pays the Government
Motors CEO $9 million).
Limbaugh also documents how Obama:
* Is creating unimaginable debt, and that the average debt under Democrat
Congresses is ten times that of Republican Congresses.
* Cooked the books and hid data about the true exploding cost of ObamaCare
just a week before the vote.
* Struck a deal with pharmaceutical companies that lined their pockets but
disadvantaged consumers.
* Signed bills that make bailouts and reckless lending more likely.
* Has given nearly a billion dollars to Hamas-ruled Gaza while undermining
our ally Israel at almost every turn.
* Continues to weaken our national security by signaling appeasement to Iran
and by refusing to acknowledge or confront threats from radical Islam.
* Broke his promises to be transparent and avoided public scrutiny by
burying unpopular provisions in other legislation. This includes the
reversal of the enormously successful welfare reform and the establishment a
super medical bureaucratic board (in effect a "death panel").
Barack Obama is not the President we've been waiting for, but "Crimes
Against Liberty" is the book we've been waiting for. If you love America,
get the book, read it, and tell your friends
Cindi LaFontaine
"Frank Turek" <ftu...@knightsofcolumbus.org> wrote in message
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> New Book: Crimes Against Liberty: An Indictment of President Barack Obama
> by attorney David Limbaugh
>
> http://members.humaneventsonline.com/visitor.php?offer=2136
>
>
> "Generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children
> that this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our
> planet began to heal," and that "we are the ones we've been waiting for."
> That, of course, was Barack Obama upon securing his party's nomination for
> president.
>
compiled to expite and impeachment proceeding against Pres. Obama when
Congress reconvenes after the New Year. This book details the who, what,
when, where and why of events, actions, activities, statements, etc. that
show the indictable crimes against the USA, it's people and the culture. The
whole presidency of BO has been and will continue to be a travesty. The
people of this country should be ashamed that they have elected such a
milignant narcisist as our presdient.
Bremick
"Frank Turek" <ftu...@knightsofcolumbus.org> wrote in message
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Apparently this book excites you so much that you just had to gather
selected points you especially agreed with and post them here, rather than
let those who might care simply read the book and decide for themselves.
Perhaps Limbaugh is a relative? I don't doubt there are similar books
written by credentialed liberals that are full of opposing viewpoints and
which have an equally avid following. I'm no Obama fan, but I don't need an
attorney to claim "indisputable evidence" that the Obama administration is
causing the end of our society. If this evidence is accepted as
"indisputable" there should have been no need for the book. If you're
quoting from the book, the author even repeats the same tired conservative
hyperbole and catch phrases. Nothing new or fresh here. Mr. Limbaugh
won't be pleased with you, assuming he's out to make some money.
Unknown
> This ridiculous excuse for a President is trampling the U.S. Constitution
> daily, mocking its founders, bullying its supporters, and doing everything
> he can to turn this once great nation into a shell of its former self.
And that's why you're throwing a tantrum in a coin-collecting discussion
group?
Unknown
> We must start to work impeaching Obama.
For collecting coins?!
Unknown
> Apparently this book excites you so much that you just had to gather
> selected points you especially agreed with and post them here, rather than
> let those who might care simply read the book and decide for themselves.
It's an obvious sign of schizophrenia.
They can't organize their thoughts in their heads - so they write
manifestos, hoping it'll make more sense on paper.
Smart schizos make up their own stuff, but half-wits like this guy just
analyze the crap out of other people's manifestos.
Washi...@dc.com
Are those the same Founding Farters who proclaimed that slaves were
3/5 of a person? You should thank a rapist because he quits raping
you? Just America's history of being bullshit with a happy face.
If I were Obama, I would exhume them all, throw them in a pit of pig
shit along with their descendants and slam the lid tight and flush.
America was sold out by the same rich white 1% who sold us into
slavery to the Chinese, the Saudis and any other country that pays
cash.
If you can get your nose out of their cracks and unfreeze your tongue
from their knobs, you might grow a clue or two.
Mary Lou Wells
people and fight for their states in an ethical manner. The president's job
is to be a leader! We need someone to take the bull by the horns and get the
intestinal fortitude to deal with the broken financial system properly and
to concentrate on domestic problems. I have a whole list of ways to "fix"
things.
To solve our debt and financial crisis, restructure the banking system,
abolish the federal reserve, put us on a solid trade system rather than the
worthless paper IOU we're on right now which is owned by the government in
the first place. Tax everyone at a fixed rate, repeal laws that grant
corporations the right of individuals. Let bad businesses fail on their
merit. Reduce the size of government by getting rid of excess bureaucracy
and unpopular programs that over-regulate and burden the economy.
Concentrate on basic services and only necessary social programs. Demand the
bailout money back. Force the banks to "forgive" loans that were made in bad
faith and without proper legal paperwork. Cease burdening start-up
businesses with regulation, delays and red tape. Quit trying to fight
multi-front wars. Now start paying bills and balance the checkbook America.
Quit using CREDIT. If the money isn't in the treasury, don't freakin spend
it!
Clean House and end useless programs at the USDA, Dept. of Homeland
Security, FDA, Education, Medicaid, the FCC etc. Roll back the burdens on
freedom that these "entitled" branches of the government impose, practically
without oversight. Lastly, make a REAL commitment to alternative sources of
energy and power - like hey, what about the water powered car? It would save
our economy billions and positively impact our global environment and I'd
have far fewer asthma problems. You want suggestions Mr. President or are
you blowing more hot air? Not that anyone with any political influence ever
reads Newsvine anyway.
I've frequently contacted my elected officials and never got anything more
than a patronizing pat on the head. I'm a proud patriotic American but I'm
fed up with "all talk, and no DO." I'd run for office myself and serve my
community and my state, but have no funding to run. We pay our taxes, we
struggle on one income, our kids are in public school, we're too 'average'
to listen to I suppose but stupid or uneducated I'm not. I'm hoping at least
that my new Governor will not be blind and deaf when contacted on things
that matter. Tennessee needs leadership with fortitude as well.
Posting and owning my words under my own name!
Mary Lou Wells, Kingston, Tennessee
Beanie
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A flat tax is a bad idea. The rich should pay more, since they have more.
Steve
Your rambling is all over the place...reform the banking system but
quit using credit. Get the bailout money back and then make banks
forgive loans. Concentrate on basic services and only necessary
social programs -- but " eliminate USDA, Dept. of Homeland
Security, FDA, Education, Medicaid, the FCC etc" You want government
out of the way of the private secor, but imply that the government
should develop a water powered car.
Unknown
> A flat tax is a bad idea. The rich should pay more, since they have more.
Yeah, but the simple-mindedness of it has great appeal to the half-wits.
Unknown
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> Your rambling is all over the place.
Right wing manifestos are like that.
Jerry Dennis
> "Mary Lou Wells" <marywe...@volstate.net> wrote in messagenews:idb57a$k1l$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
With a flat tax, they would. If I earn $50,000, at 10% flat tax I
would pay $5,000 to the feds. George Soros, estimated to have earned
$3.3 billion in 2009, would pay $330 million.
Jerry
j-rod
>
> Not much debate that 2010 will be a year to remember and one that will make
> the annals of history. Last week Harry Reid published his "111th Congress
> Accomplishments." Unfortunately, that's not what the history books will
> print. Unless they so happen to be written by the left. What should be
> printed boldly in those history books is 2010 was the year the democrats
> tried so feverishly to bankrupt America. This is one of the main reasons
> Obama gets an F+ while the democrats get an F. FYI: Had Obama not listened
> to the Republicans (perhaps he had too after the November wake-up call?),
> Obama would have received an F-.
>
> Here's a recap of why I gave the democrats an F, Obama an F+, and why
> Pelosi's liberal controlled house show only one out of ten Americans
> approving the so-called Reid "Accomplishments." Their 13% approval is the
> lowest rating ever!
>
> I can't imagine for one second what the next two years would be like had
> Obama and his minions actually raised taxes not just on those making under
> $200,000 (or is it now $250,000? That number changed how many times?), but
> the nonworking class that make over $200,000. I'm sure most recall the many
> times Obama, Biden, Reid and Pelosi told us that taxes will not be raised on
> the "working class" which they keep saying is $200,000 and under. Are these
> liberal democrats such idiots to believe, and try to convince us taxpayers,
> that those who have found success by earning over $200,000 or $250,000 are
> not in the working class? If my small firm, which happens to be a sole
> proprietor, has revenues over $250,000 or I get to keep over $200,000, am I
> not the "working class?" How more insulting can Obama and these democrats
> be?
>
> When the democrats took over in January, 2007 I knew America was in for some
> real big time trouble. Power is corruption and that has been proven over the
> past few years by all those democrats in trouble from campaign fraud, money
> fraud, tax evasion, etc. Too bad it took many liberals and independents two
> years to realize this. But they did and the ship might just be back on
> course.
>
> 2010 will be known as the year in which the voters wittnessed the real
> agenda of Obama and the left and then removed those same idiots from
> Washington for believing America will snuggle up to their elitist ideology
> to change America to a cradle to grave welfare state. They convinced many of
> the politically, semi-educated to vote for them by offering so-called "free"
> healthcare while promising to spend trillions, not billions, on stimulus to
> grow the economy. We all know what that dead horse bought us.
>
> Also note we witnessed a promise that if Obama could spend nearly $1
> trillion on "stimulus," the economy would not see unemployment above 8%.
> Unemployment is more than 20% higher than the 8% promise and nearly 30%
> higher when the actual comment was made. Now we the tax payers are out
> nearly $1 trillion just from one failed promise from those democrats.
>
> Then there's Obamacare. In an article in the St Petersburg Times, the
> liberal newspaper said the biggest lie of the year was 'A government
> takeover of health care.' What stands out the most about Obamacare, and
> those that still have no idea what socialism is or what socialized
> healthcare is all about, comes from the facts and not opinions. Facts like
> any one reading this blog could go to jail if they don't buy Obamacare is
> all one needs to realize Obama and company are socializing our healthcare
> system. Also note the recent rise again with the death panels. They are the
> political elite who will decide what type care is right for our elderly. Yet
> some still think this is not "A goverment takeover of healthcare." All I can
> is is, WOW! Since when did our Constitution, or any government official,
> have the right to tell me that I must buy healthcare? If that's not a
> "government takeover of healthcare," can someone show me why not or what is?
>
> However, the number one reason why the Obama democrats get an F, were
> removed from power, and will fade into oblivion is simple: they refused to
> listen to "We the People." And if the Republicans don't listen either and
> then have poor or no good reasons to go against public opinion, they too
> will get an F.
I'm a member of "we the people" and I don't like your lies and half
truths.
You do not represent "we the people" and you are full of shit.
You have no idea what "we the people" want and need. You only know what
you want.
Stop trying to convince "we the people" that we what you want.
JAM
TexasGene
slowly, Where Did The Stimulus Money Go? Johnny Boy? Stop All the Funding
Right Now To Other Countries, Stop, All Passports, Immigration To USA RIGHT
NOW. SEAL OFF OUR BORDERS TODAY, Stop granting visas to muslims,stop giving
money to the aclu, stop all these ridiculous grants,Eliminate All The
Offices of Senators and House of Representatives to ONE IN THERE HOME STATE
AND DC, SOME have 5-7 offices, its waste, with internet, phones, email,
etc....Stop the pensions for lifetime of government employees, is a
beginning
Sanders Kaufman
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What a ridiculous tantrum you threw there.
No wonder you were ashamed to post it under your own name.
Bremick
and perhaps your tax-deferred 401k as well? But then that supposes you
have ever been able to hold a job.
Ol Gold Man
this site are. The talking point now is "The federal government can't make
me buy a product from a private company"
Last year is "Public option or single payer is socialism"
Why don't you just say the truth "If Obama is signing it, we don't want it,
because it might make him look good" and be done with it!
Where is the GOP's plan? Oh yeah, they don't have one yet, they never will.
Lead, follow, or get the @!$%# out of the way!!!
Rav
<First part snipped>
> ....Stop the
> pensions for lifetime of government employees, is a beginning
The pensions for federal employees in the older CSRS (Civil Service)
retirement system are SELF-FUNDED. That means the fund holding the
dollars to pay those retirees was funded BY THE EMPLOYEES themselves.
My wife has worked for the fed for 40 years, and a certain percentage
has been taken out of EVERY SINGLE PAYCHECK she's ever gotten to fund
the pension that she will get when she retires. AND, in order to get
the size of the pension that you advocate she not get, she HAD to put in
that length of service (fewer years = lower pension). And, the pension
fund is solvent! That means it is well-funded enough, and earns enough
interest, that NO TAXPAYER MONEY is used to pay federal pensions. Are
you advocating that people who worked 40 years, and funded their own
pension, under the promise for 40 years that they would get that
pension, should not get it? It's THEIR money, it shouldn't be taken
away from them, and it's wrong of you to be trying to make them
scapegoats for a problem that they didn't create, which their pension
fund has nothing to do with.
Oh, and people who were hired by the federal government in 1987 and
after are in a different retirement system, called FERS, which while it
has a MUCH smaller pension, mostly consists of a 401(K) plan called the
TSP. And while people in that plan do get up to a 5% match from their
employer (the government), that's no different than what many private
companies do for their employees in 401(K) plans. People in CSRS can
also contribute to the TSP, but they get no matching. Again, their money!
Sanders Kaufman
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> You know what cons? You are god dam hypocrites! At least a great number on
> this site are. The talking point now is "The federal government can't make
> me buy a product from a private company"
They ironic thing about this is that the Republicans shot down the "public
option" - which would have allowed them to get what they NOW say they want.
Wait - that's not irony, that's just hypocrisy.
Bremick
"Rav" <Pa...@cais.com> wrote in message
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Aw don't spoil it for ol' TexasGene. He already got all the information he
needed from Rush and Glen who reinforced his preconceived notions as to the
"facts".
Rick1933
NEED TO CUT SPENDING 40 PERCENT ACROSS THE BOARD.NO MORE DEFICIT
SPENDING,THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET BY ON THE REVENUE THEY COLLECT,IF NOT
RAISE TAXES ON OIL AND MINING COMPANIES LIKE SARAH PALIN DID IN
ALASKA,COLLECT FOR THE RESOURCES THEY ARE GIVING AWAY, STOP PAYMENTS TO
ILLEGALS AND BLACK SINGLE MOTHERS, GOVERMENT PENSION DOLES & OTHER
UNDESERVING...
"Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote in message
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Sanders Kaufman
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> DO NOT RAISE THE SEALING ,DEBT SERVICING IS ONLY 6 PERCENT OF BUDGET,THEY
> NEED TO CUT SPENDING 40 PERCENT ACROSS THE BOARD.NO MORE DEFICIT
> SPENDING,THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET BY ON THE REVENUE THEY COLLECT,IF NOT
> RAISE TAXES ON OIL AND MINING COMPANIES LIKE SARAH PALIN DID IN
> ALASKA,COLLECT FOR THE RESOURCES THEY ARE GIVING AWAY, STOP PAYMENTS TO
> ILLEGALS AND BLACK SINGLE MOTHERS, GOVERMENT PENSION DOLES & OTHER
> UNDESERVING...
That's a heck of a tantrum there.
But nobody's going to fight your fight for you, so you might as well chill.
Concerned4America
is broken! When you back scared animals into a corner, you are going to get
bit in many instances. Obama and his Dems are pushing the American people
into a corner and scaring us by stealing our way of life. Many will lay down
and let it happen, but fortunately many will not! There will be consequences
for the lies and deceit. George Bush and his father are just as guilty! If
you lie, cheat, and steal the Light of the universe will eventually remove
the darkness you use to cloak your wickedness. This is the beginning, more
will follow! Americans must buy guns and ammo!!! It is your Constitutional
right to own and bear arms! Obama will try to take that right and all guns
away, do not wait, do not hesitate! The "Second Civil War" has already
begun! It is the Dems and the U.S.government against the Constitution, Bill
of Rights, and conservative Americans! I have empathy for the families of
the dead and wounded in today's tragedy, their losses are devastating! This,
however, will continue and escalate as a reaction to the actions of our
pro-corporation, anti-Constitution, anti-sovereign, anti-God,
anti-American-born-natural-citizen government of these United States of
America!!! The government has become the school yard "bully" and today was
the first of many instances that will show that "bully" that we will not be
picked on and intimidated! This is YOUR fault Barack H. Obama, but you knew
this would be coming. Well here it is! Stay tuned, there's more to follow...
Frank Provasek
low education, white demographic with outrageous lies about Obama,
health care reform, foreigners, gays, Jews, Muslims, stories about
concentration camps for white people, while making big money selling
ads for survival food, gold, and guns for the inevitable insurrection
and collapse of the financial system, infrastructure and Life As We
Know It.
And Sarah Palin's website had a rifle scope target on Rep. Giffords as
one of the top 20 Democrats to take out.
Don't retreat - reload! Second Amendment Remedies! Fox News and hate
talk radio ( and some of the Tea Party candidates) have blood on
their hands for poisoning the political discourse in America.
On Jan 8, 11:34 pm, "Concerned4America" <jmill...@foxnation.com>
wrote:
Beanie
"Frank Provasek" <fr...@frankcoins.com> wrote in message
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Obama's fault? No blame for Fox News and talk radio who flame up the
low education, white demographic with outrageous lies about Obama,
health care reform, foreigners, gays, Jews, Muslims, stories about
concentration camps for white people, while making big money selling
ads for survival food, gold, and guns for the inevitable insurrection
and collapse of the financial system, infrastructure and Life As We
Know It.
And Sarah Palin's website had a rifle scope target on Rep. Giffords as
one of the top 20 Democrats to take out.
Don't retreat - reload! Second Amendment Remedies! Fox News and hate
talk radio ( and some of the Tea Party candidates) have blood on
their hands for poisoning the political discourse in America.
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The right-wing hate mongers on Fox and elsewhere (specifically Beck, O'Reilly,
Limbaugh and Hannity) have blood on their hands, as does the doyen of the Tea
Party, Sarah Palin.
Those people are despicable and should be prosecuted for inciting to riot.
OTOH the left-wing media is completely out of touch with middle-of-the-road
Americans, who make up the majority of the population.
Programs like the DREAM act, Obamacare, etc. are priased by the left-wing media
and generally despised by the American public.
The extreme left-wing bias of the media gives conservative hate mongers a reason
to operate.
Dead OMammy
speaker followed by Obama becoming President. You Sir are an idiot to try
and blame this vile move by an obvious insane child on freedom loving souls
who want big goverment out of our lifes.
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Smith29
radio, Sarah and the R's of course.
Next will be the Christians, NRA, independents, and anything else a
m00nbat doesn't like.
m00nbat hatred is something they should be ashamed of.
"Frank Provasek" <fr...@frankcoins.com> wrote in message
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MystWlker
think that any of those example's advocate real violence, and only a moron
would make the leap of associating a left leaning nut job with the
conservative movement.
Further, propogating such misinformation can only be done with the intent to
misdirect and deceive others.... which is no different that lieing.
For trying to make political hay out of this tragedy, and trying to spin it
for political gain, you have shown yourself to be absolutely without any
class whatsoever.
Go crawl back under your rock.
"Frank Provasek" <fr...@frankcoins.com> wrote in message
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Sanders Kaufman
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> You Sir are an idiot to try and blame this vile move by an obvious insane
> child on freedom loving souls who want big goverment out of our lifes.
That's almost the exact language used by the Republican gunman.
The only difference between y'all is that you cower behind Internet
anonymity, and he didn't.
Sanders Kaufman
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> I say that, because only a moron would think that any of those example's
> advocate real violence
This should give creeps like you some insight into what kinds of people your
fellow Republicans are.
Richard L. Hall
> became speaker followed by Obama becoming President. You Sir are an idiot
> to try and blame this vile move by an obvious insane child on freedom
> loving souls who want big goverment out of our lifes.
>
In fact, you can almost say the same about any of the Republican presidents
in the last 100 years , e.g., Herbert Hoover (24.8% unemployment),
Eisenhower (7.1%), Nixon/Ford (9.0%), Reagan (10.8%), George H. W. Bush
(7.8%), George W. Bush (10.1%). In fact, if you take any of the Republican
Presidents in the last 100 years and put "Depression" after their name,
you'd probably be right.
But George W Bush (aka Bush 43) was the worst. He presided over two
recessions, three stock market crashes, gave tax cuts to the very wealthy
and created two wars paid for with borrowed money and became the first
president since World War II to allow an attack by foreign nationals on
American soil.
In FY 2008 Bush 43 became the first president to rack up a trillion dollar
(that's $1,000,000,000,000) debt in one year. The budget Bush 43 created
for FY 2009 which began in October 2008, 4 months before Obama assumed the
presidency, had a $1.2 trillion deficit. That deficit was inherited by
Obama along with the 2 wars, a banking system in collapse, a housing
industry in foreclsoure, the worst recession since the Great Depression, a
trade deficit of a half trillion dollars, and an umemployment rate at 8.4%
and climbing, reaching 10.1% only 4 months into Obama's presidency. Obama
added about $500 billion (that's $500,000,000,000) to that deficit in
stimulus funds which stopped the recession/depression in its tracks. But,
because a recession often has a long tail, historically, it takes about 5
years and a lot of money to come out of one.
If you were a middle class worker during the 8 years of the Bush presidency
you probably saw your standard of living decline along with your savings
--
Richard
http://www.richlh.com
Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is
no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.
- John Kenneth Galbraith -
Bremick
"Richard L. Hall" <richl...@richlh.com> wrote in message
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Dem or Rep, I have maintained my standard of living as well as my savings
throughout each presidency. Most middle class who passively stood by and
watched their standard decline without doing something about it probably
lacked the flexibility to adapt and make adjustments where necessary.
Generalizations can be dangerous.....and inflammatory, as this thread
illustrates well.
mazorj
"Richard L. Hall" <richl...@richlh.com> wrote in message
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>
> news:igcpck$c8i$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
>> Life As We Know It went out the door about four years ago when Pelosi
>> became speaker followed by Obama becoming President. You Sir are an idiot
>> to try and blame this vile move by an obvious insane child on freedom
>> loving souls who want big goverment out of our lifes.
>>
> The country went to hell in a handbasket when George W. Bush was
> president. In fact, you can almost say the same about any of the
> Republican presidents in the last 100 years , e.g., Herbert Hoover (24.8%
> unemployment), Eisenhower (7.1%), Nixon/Ford (9.0%), Reagan (10.8%),
> George H. W. Bush (7.8%), George W. Bush (10.1%). In fact, if you take
> any of the Republican Presidents in the last 100 years and put
> "Depression" after their name, you'd probably be right.
>
> But George W Bush (aka Bush 43) was the worst. He presided over two
> recessions, three stock market crashes, gave tax cuts to the very wealthy
> and created two wars paid for with borrowed money and became the first
> president since World War II to allow an attack by foreign nationals on
> American soil.
While I agree with your basic facts, be careful in your word choices. To
say that W "allowed" the 9/11 attacks is not a fair characterization. The
state of airline security at the time was the product of several preceding
administrations. However, it would be fair to say that his administration
overreacted by imposing onerous, useless security procedures, which in turn
set up an atmosphere of fear and panic that allowed him to cram the
P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act through Congress, with the excesses that that entailed.
> In FY 2008 Bush 43 became the first president to rack up a trillion dollar
> (that's $1,000,000,000,000) debt in one year. The budget Bush 43 created
> for FY 2009 which began in October 2008, 4 months before Obama assumed the
> presidency, had a $1.2 trillion deficit. That deficit was inherited by
> Obama along with the 2 wars, a banking system in collapse, a housing
> industry in foreclsoure, the worst recession since the Great Depression, a
> trade deficit of a half trillion dollars, and an umemployment rate at 8.4%
> and climbing, reaching 10.1% only 4 months into Obama's presidency. Obama
> added about $500 billion (that's $500,000,000,000) to that deficit in
> stimulus funds which stopped the recession/depression in its tracks. But,
> because a recession often has a long tail, historically, it takes about 5
> years and a lot of money to come out of one.
>
> If you were a middle class worker during the 8 years of the Bush
> presidency you probably saw your standard of living decline along with
> your savings
> --
> Richard
> http://www.richlh.com
> Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there
> is
> no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.
> - John Kenneth Galbraith -
...
Dolphin
secret unless there is something to hide. All other Presidents have had it
displayed in their Libraries for all the world to see.
Obama was a CIA operative and cooperated in overthrowing a democraticly
elected Christian Government in Kenya which ended with the installation of
his brother as a very high ranking official in a post created on the spot.
During that coop thousands of Christians were murdered and 800 Christian
Churches were either burned down, or sacked and damaged.
Bremick
"Dolphin" <dol...@prisonplanet.com> wrote in message
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You sure do get around. Your credentials for access to this insight please?
Better make it good. But then you do prefer to hide behind anonymity. BTW,
no media news cites allowed.
Shawn Yancey
group. I am 1/16th black, which at one time was enough to prevent me from
eating at all-white restaurants. I assume the person using the N-word is
white. I thought it was distasteful and it made me pause and think for a
minute, most likely the culprit who stated the comment is also white. Im not
sure how educated you are, by your comment above most likely not very much
at all, but I do want to enlighten you, the N-word is very offensive to not
just black people but to most people. Maybe you need to brush up on your
history and find out that black people were enslaved, beaten, sold and
bought, their young daughters were raped by slave owners. They were spoken
to nor were they called by their names, they had numbers and were branded.
Men were beaten and degraded and demeaned in front of their children and
wife. Women were disrespected and abused and demeaned as well. They were
forced to work and work, and work, for nothing. They were not allowed to
read or write. Then years later they were still treated with such cruelty.
They could work everyday, pay taxes, pay bills, raise a family but were not
allowed to walk into certain public places, vote, ride in the front of the
bus, drink from public water fountains, use public bathrooms, look a
whiteman in the eye or speak to white people, tell me that wasnt a travesty,
a cruel evil turn of events, a disgusting form of human nature brought on by
centuries and centuries of white men being insecure and full of hate,
selfish and ignorant. But, look how far we have come. All races, all
nationalities. The president of the united states is a black man. Talk about
perseverance, strength, willpower, and self worth! Do some soul searching,
educate yourself, open your mind and heart and always base people on the
individual.
Sanders Kaufman
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> I am extremely disappointed by seeing the N-Word here in a coin collecting
> group.
Telling bigots that you are feeling like a victim only fuels their fire.
Just ignore them and set your reader to filter them out.
Bremick
Did you have some specific reason why you chose my particular posting to
respond to with your anti-n-word rant? Who is the "you" you're referring
to? If it is me, I didn't start this thread and my post, in response to
another one, had drifted away from the original theme that apparently lit
your fire. I notice too that you didn't even have the courtesy to include
my post for reference, leaving the implication that I had posted bigoted
comments and had used that n-word. I have never used nor implied that word
and your post has no relevance at all as a reply to mine. Why didn't you
just start your own?
mazorj
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...
> Did you have some specific reason why you chose my particular posting to
> respond to with your anti-n-word rant? Who is the "you" you're referring
> to? If it is me, I didn't start this thread and my post, in response to
> another one, had drifted away from the original theme that apparently lit
> your fire. I notice too that you didn't even have the courtesy to include
> my post for reference, leaving the implication that I had posted bigoted
> comments and had used that n-word. I have never used nor implied that
> word and your post has no relevance at all as a reply to mine. Why didn't
> you just start your own?
You're just feeding a troll, Bruce. He's probably posting out of the DFW
politics group, and goes orgasmic whenever he can sucker someone into
responding, even if it's for a rational reason as was yours. Nobody in rcc
would mistake the quoted text for yours, and what do you care about what
anyone in the DFW group thinks?
jha...@wi.rr.com
> racists at all. I'm on the board for child welfare org in WI which
> sadly we take care of mainly nonwhite children who are abused by their
> parents. Our goal is to raise them through an education and turn them
> into great human beings we know they can be some day. A liberal
> blogger at our newspaper just hates me any time I post blogs that are
> not too his liking or about liberal democrat. The post above with the
> horrible names called to Pres Obama are not mine nor ever will be. In
> fact, when this blog was posted or opened, I was not even in town and
> was at an airport exactly at the time and date the blog was sent in. I
> was with others and they all know i had no laptop, etc or access to a
> computer during that day and time.
>
> Sorry.
>
> Jim H
In fact, the email address used to respond isn't mine either and is
why I had no knowledge this was even posted. Does anyone know how to
take this down? I contacted Google but they don't respond.
Sanders Kaufman
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> In fact, the email address used to respond isn't mine either and is
> why I had no knowledge this was even posted. Does anyone know how to
> take this down? I contacted Google but they don't respond.
Google can't - they don't control Usenet - nobody does.
There's no way to censor the content here.
Unabashed uncensored free-for-all is the whole point of these groups.
Besides If we were to censor out lies, Republicans would have to vent their
frustration by shooting more congressman and little girls.
btw - the fellow who is posting as you is "Steve Rudd" and he works at
DCCCD's Richland College.
jh
> <jhay...@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
Sanders...I doubt it was this guy named Rudd. We have reason to
believe it was from one of the very hate-filled liberal we have who
can't handle our blog posts with factual data about Obama, Reid, or
Pelosi. In the three years I have been blogging with our local papers,
the only ones kicked off were liberals due to their hate speech,
vulgarity, and personal attacks. And dishonesty like what this recent
person did to me.
Can you supply me the proof you have that shows Rudd is behind all
this?
ApostasyUSA
expense of working Americans and their families.
Republicans don't know anything about liberals, but they are taught to hate
them by their media sources. To me it is strange that some dislike Liberals.
Were it not for Liberals, you would probably be working 60 to 80 hours a
week for subsistence wages, if you could find a job. You would have no
Social Security or retirement. You would buy food in a company store to
which you would be perpetually indebted. You would live in a tarpaper shack,
owned by your employer. Your wife and children would be slaving in
sweatshops. Women would be forbidden to vote.
How could you not know that most of what we take for granted in America are
products of Liberal thinking? The 40-hour workweek, Minimum Wage Law, Social
Security, Child Labor Laws and Women's Suffrage are all Liberal ideas. The
American Revolution was a uniquely Liberal undertaking.
If you genuinely do not like those Liberal notions, there are countries were
you will not be troubled by them. Try living in Russia, Saudi Arabia or
Iran, for a glimpse of what your life would be without Liberals.
Republicans don't know anything about global warming either, but it's their
fault.
Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal owns a 7 percent stake in News Corp - the
parent company of Fox News - making him the largest shareholder outside the
family of News Corp CEO Rupert Murdoch.
The U.S. buys Saudi Arabia's oil, and the bulk of his country's gross
domestic product (GDP) comes from oil. Fox News reliably broadcasts
misinformation on clean energy, and aggressively fights efforts to move
America away from being dependent on fossil fuels.
If all you care about is making people vote against their own interests,
then all you need to do is proliferate anger, falsehoods and confusion.
Republicans don't actually have to stand for anything.
I'm tired of Republicans. It was all a nice puppet show. Foolish elderly
Republican voters actually think that Republicans are going to repeal the
Health Care Reforms and ban earmarks and bring "freedom" back.
Would you hire a confessed animal hater to run a pet store? No? Then why
would you elect politicians who freely admit to despising government?
Republicans rally against regulation of industry, and then America sees how
that turns out when BP spills a million barrels of oil in our seas.
Republicans will rally against gay people, stripping them of civil rights,
and then you find them tapping their toes in airport bathrooms looking for
their gay lovers.
Republicans will rally against non-existent communists but have no problem
driving an economy with Karl Marx like spending of trillions of tax dollars
on endless wars against enemies that did not attack us.
After the last ten years of watching Republicans one word stands out as
defining them perfectly; hypocrite.
A vote for a Republican is literally a vote for the absence of leadership.
Hands down, I'm voting for the Democrats for the next decade.
"Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote in message
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Sanders Kaufman
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> Sanders...I doubt it was this guy named Rudd. We have reason to
> believe it was from one of the very hate-filled liberal we have who
It was Steve Rudd.
The message headers are consistent with his other posts, as well.
Also, he's the only one that posts to political groups from
rec.collecting.coins.
He does it to avoid having to filter out all the political discussions so
that he only sees responses to his own trolling posts.
He's been doing this kind of thing since the 1990's.
If you think he's liberal or conservative, you're wrong - he's just trolling
for a fight and will take any side that he thinks will accomplish that goal.
Thus, the subject line.
Antonio Sosa
Now please DEFUND, drain the malignant tumor that is Obamacare.
Look at abortion funding. The House bill would have failed if not for the
Stupak amendment, which cleared the way for a Senate vote.
Tricked by the amendment, some Christians and Catholics (not all) actually
believed the LIES of Obama and his comrades regarding Obama NOT COVERING
abortion! Tricked by the amendment, they failed to look at the evil behind
the whole Obamacare scam.
Informed Americans, however, understood that, if Obama gets his way,
Obamacare would FORCE us to pay for abortions, infanticide (late-term
abortion) and probably euthanasia, no matter what Obama and his comrades say
to force us to swallow the scam.
It turns out that informed Americans were right. Congress is already
preparing the 2011 Budget that will include hundreds of millions of dollars
in grants for abortion clinics. We are paying for those clinics.
Lies do not change Obama's pro-abortion and pro-infanticide (late-term
abortion) stand, nor the aberrant stands of Obama's Health Care Czar Ezekiel
Emanuel and Science Czar John Holdren.
Lies do not change the FACT that we are broke and Obamacare will further
destroy our economy, our future and the future of our children and
grandchildren.
Republicans, please keep on doing your best to remove the malignant tumor
that is Obamacare.
THANK YOU, Republicans!
"ApostasyUSA" <apost...@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
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Antonio Sosa
Now please DEFUND, drain the malignant tumor that is Obamacare.
Look at abortion funding. The House bill would have failed if not for the
Stupak amendment, which cleared the way for a Senate vote.
Tricked by the amendment, some Christians and Catholics (not all) actually
believed the LIES of Obama and his comrades regarding Obama NOT COVERING
abortion! Tricked by the amendment, they failed to look at the evil behind
the whole Obamacare scam.
Informed Americans, however, understood that, if Obama gets his way,
Obamacare would FORCE us to pay for abortions, infanticide (late-term
abortion) and probably euthanasia, no matter what Obama and his comrades say
to force us to swallow the scam.
It turns out that informed Americans were right. Congress is already
preparing the 2011 Budget that will include hundreds of millions of dollars
in grants for abortion clinics. We are paying for those clinics.
Lies do not change Obama's pro-abortion and pro-infanticide (late-term
abortion) stand, nor the aberrant stands of Obama's Health Care Czar Ezekiel
Emanuel and Science Czar John Holdren.
Lies do not change the FACT that we are broke and Obamacare will further
destroy our economy, our future and the future of our children and
grandchildren.
Republicans, please keep on doing your best to remove the malignant tumor
that is Obamacare.
THANK YOU, Republicans!
"Concerned4America" <jmil...@foxnation.com> wrote in message
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Gary
employee. Texas pensions are mostly funded by employees, but our Texas
senator John Cornyn is
in talks to find a way that states and municipalities can lump their
pension
obligations to teachers, firefighters, police, state militia, public
health and
all other government employees into a "compartment" and then declare
bankruptcy of only that unit. That's like the crooked business deals
of the 1980s
and 1990s where a company "spun off" it's bad assets into a seperate
company
and THAT company declared Bankruptcy, leaving the original company's
assets untouched.
flybd5
legislative way to allow states to declare bankruptcy and cancel all
public employee pensions? Talk about trying to get even with the
unions... yet another disgusting action on the part of the likes of
John Cornyn. This will have major consequences well beyond pensions,
and as usual the republicans are not engaging what little brains they
have. Who will invest in state bonds after such an idiotic action?
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/21/business/economy/21bankruptcy.html
"Gary" <garydor...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Denise
destroy this country and he whibes for second chances, do-overs, re-focus.
Enough--he is not qualified to be president of this country. Time to get rid
of this looser.
"flybd5" <fly...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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LBJ777
HIM AND LOST ITS WAY -- NOW HE IS REALLY REALLY GOING TO FOCUS ON JOBS ALONG
WITH HIS 10 MULTI MILLION DOLLAR VACATIONS----OBAMA IS THE GREAT DECEIVER
AND FOLKS IT IS RE ELECTION TIME---
LakersKid
worthless black mouth and he or anyone else thinks people will give him a
second chance???????????? NO! FAIL! Also I see he is now calling for even
MORE SPENDING! How about just using the billions of stimulus money not
spent.... or is that missing and wound up in your re-election coffers?
I DEMAND A 100% AUDIT OF EVERY PENNY THE CROOK IN THE WH AND IN CONGRESS
HAVE SPENT OVER THE LAST 6 YEARS AND I WANT EVERY PENNY ACOUNTED FOR. IF
THERE IS FRAUD LOCK ANYONE UP INVOLVED!
Treason and carry out sentance on the WH lawn!!!!!
"LBJ777" <LBJ...@foxnation.com> wrote in message
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JFD Yates
goverment health care for life. They should of cut that cut to the 1000$ a
month that the rest of us halve to live on.
http://www.americanvoice.com/jfdyates/
"Gary" <garydor...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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JFD Yates
Peter
> The average goverment retiree get's over 100,000$ a year in pension and free
> goverment health care for life. They should of cut that cut to the 1000$ a
> month that the rest of us halve to live on.
>
> http://www.americanvoice.com/jfdyates/
Rather than write something that is wrong, you might better look at
what the rules actually are:
http://www.opm.gov/retire/pubs/handbook/hod.htm
This publication directs you to details for employees retiring under
the current system (FERS) and the former system (CSRS).
Note that the current system is similar to a 401(k) pension. The
former system was a bit more generous, but the employee contribution
was greater. Healthcare is not free.
Bremick
"JFD Yates" <jfdy...@fox54.com> wrote in message
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> The average goverment retiree get's over 100,000$ a year in pension and
> free goverment health care for life. They should of cut that cut to the
> 1000$ a month that the rest of us halve to live on.
As a 14-year government retiree, I'm still waiting for that "free health
care for life" to kick in. Today's average govt retirees never MADE a
$100,000 salary when employed, so their average pension is closer to half
that or less. Simple benefits from my 35 years of service include a
pension and the right to continue paying for the group health insurance I
paid for while working (with the premiums increasing every year). And, yes,
I had the option of retiring at age 55 with reduced benefits. While I was
working, my industry counterparts were making twice what I was and had paid
benefits.
You ought to complain to Rush and Glen about the bad poop they're feeding
you. Or else actually do some research on your own if you don't want to
continue looking like a media puppet. Jerk.
mazorj
He's probably posting through the Texas/DFW area politics newsgroup, Bruce,
so if you want to reach him with your nicely factual refutation, this is one
instance where you shouldn't trim the cross-posted newsgroup.
Note that the rcc poster "Peter" already chopped him off at the knees in
both newsgroups so you don't need to repost this one for now. Not that this
moron is going to be swayed by facts and logic, but at least he's had his
nose rubbed in the truth.
Bremick
"mazorj" <maz...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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I figured he probably wouldn't read, care, or understand even if I left the
other newsgroup in. He's obviously satisfied with what he hears from his
carefully chosen sources.
Stop Pmammy
november election?
NO MORE BAILOUTS! Cut pensions 50% of lazy goverment retirees. Make them
live in their mean's This is hype. They need to stop the re-imbursement of
ridiculous expense items like $12 Starbuck habits a day. Limit politicians
to 3 staff members. Stop state supplied automobiles, and stop all the
arrogant waste at the local level. Yesterday I noticed local 3 cop cars
responding to some "crime". I later read in this mornings paper that some
guy was hitting her girl friend at a motel room.,Probably drug addicts. Is
this how we want our tax dollars spent?
Federal agencies like FSHA, DOE, DOE,DEA, CIA, and countless other worthless
entities that can't seem to succeed should be wound down. Bigger government
is just an excuse to waste more money.
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