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Arizona Coin Collector

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Nov 30, 2008, 10:46:35 PM11/30/08
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Hello

I have not been back to the United Kingdom since
1999. Much has change.

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FROM:
http://www.todayonline.com/articles/290024.asp

Business - Monday, December 1, 2008

Barroso says crisis has brought Britain closer to euro

Time is GMT + 8 hours
Posted: 1-Dec-2008 06:04 hrs

Euro coins. Britain is considering joining the
eurozone as a direct consequence of global
financial turmoil, European Commission President
Jose Manuel Barroso said Sunday.

The international financial crisis has set off a
radical change in thinking in Britain about the
euro, EU commission chief Jose Manuel Barroso
said Sunday.
.
While acknowledging the majority opposition in
Britain to embracing the euro, Barroso told
French radio: "We are now closer than ever before."
.
He added: "I'm not going to break the
confidentiality of certain conversations, but
some British politicians have already told
me: 'If we had the euro, we would have been
better off'."
.
Sterling has suffered major falls in the credit
crunch which has seen Britain, like other
governments, spend massively in recent months to
support the banking system.
.
"The British have an enormous quality one of
many, that is they are pragmatic," Barroso said
on an RTL radio/LCI television broadcast. "This
crisis has emphasised the importance of the
euro, in Britain as well."
.
"I don't mean this will happen tomorrow, I know
that the majority (of British people) are still
opposed, but there is a period of consideration
underway and the people who matter in Britain
are currently thinking about it," the former
Portuguese prime minister said.
.
Barroso pointed to the case of Denmark, another
EU state which has so far refused to accept the
euro but is considering holding a new referendum
on the single currency. The Danish voted against
joining in 2000. - AFP The international
financial crisis has set off a radical change in
thinking in Britain about the euro, EU commission
chief Jose Manuel Barroso said Sunday.

While acknowledging the majority opposition in
Britain to embracing the euro, Barroso told French
radio: "We are now closer than ever before."

He added: "I'm not going to break the
confidentiality of certain conversations, but some
British politicians have already told me: 'If we
had the euro, we would have been better off'."

Sterling has suffered major falls in the credit
crunch which has seen Britain, like other
governments, spend massively in recent months to
support the banking system.

"The British have an enormous quality, one of
many, that is they are pragmatic," Barroso said
on an RTL radio/LCI television broadcast. "This
crisis has emphasised the importance of the euro,
in Britain as well."
.
"I don't mean this will happen tomorrow, I know
that the majority (of British people) are still
opposed, but there is a period of consideration
underway and the people who matter in Britain are
currently thinking about it," the former
Portuguese prime minister said.

Barroso pointed to the case of Denmark, another
EU state which has so far refused to accept the
euro but is considering holding a new referendum
on the single currency. The Danish voted against
joining in 2000. - AFP


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MJKolodziej

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Nov 30, 2008, 10:51:47 PM11/30/08
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Completely of topic, have you seen London Bridge?
mk


Arizona Coin Collector

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Nov 30, 2008, 11:04:31 PM11/30/08
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"MJKolodziej" <mjmwcsREMOV...@htcomp.net> wrote in message
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> Completely of topic, have you seen London Bridge?
> mk
>
>

Hello

Yes to both London Bridges.

I have walk over the old London Bridge, in Lake Havasu
City, Arizona.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Bridge_(Lake_Havasu_City)

I have also walk over the London Bridge in London. I also
walked over Tower Bridge as well. Love London, the city and
it's people. Love the underground to get around. The Tims River
was much bigger than I though.


tony cooper

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Dec 1, 2008, 12:20:03 AM12/1/08
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Not much compared to the River Themes, though.


--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

tony cooper

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Dec 1, 2008, 12:38:00 AM12/1/08
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Even that's much compared to the River Thames.

note.boy

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Dec 1, 2008, 5:22:24 AM12/1/08
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It would not be the best of ideas for the UK to change to the euro when the
pound is very low against it. Billy


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note.boy

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"Arizona Coin Collector" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Londoners are widely regarded by UK residents as the least nice people in
the UK, they have no manners, I may be bias however being Scottish, by far
the nicest of course. :-) Billy


oly

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Dec 1, 2008, 8:19:45 AM12/1/08
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On Dec 1, 4:25 am, "note.boy" <note....@naespamntlworld.com> wrote:
> "Arizona Coin Collector" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in messagenews:KL6dne3KWvfO_67U...@earthlink.com...
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> > "MJKolodziej" <mjmwcsREMOVEKILLERCH...@htcomp.net> wrote in message

> >news:nIKdndTYi_PJwq7U...@posted.hometowncomputing...
>
> >> Completely of topic, have you seen London Bridge?
> >> mk
>
> > Hello
>
> > Yes to both London Bridges.
>
> > I have walk over the old London Bridge, in Lake Havasu
> > City, Arizona.
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Bridge_(Lake_Havasu_City)
>
> > I have also walk over the London Bridge in London. I also
> > walked over Tower Bridge as well. Love London, the city and
> > it's people. Love the underground to get around. The Tims River
> > was much bigger than I though.
>
> Londoners are widely regarded by UK residents as the least nice people in
> the UK, they have no manners, I may be bias however being Scottish, by far
> the nicest of course.  :-)  Billy- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yep, you're a walking advertisement for all things Scotch, that's fer
sure.

oly

Michael G. Koerner

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Dec 1, 2008, 10:58:34 AM12/1/08
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note.boy wrote:
> It would not be the best of ideas for the UK to change to the euro when the
> pound is very low against it. Billy

Let's say that the UK does go with the Euro, how will the Royal Mint do their
coins - a single set of designs for all of the UK or separate sets of designs
for England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales, along with all of those
other lesser places that also use the Pound?

(I can just imagine going into a pub in Dublin, ordering a Guinness or whisky
and paying for it with a €2 coin or two with King Chuck's mug on the back....)

--
___________________________________________ ____ _______________
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| | | | |\
Michael G. Koerner May they | | | | | | rise again!
Appleton, Wisconsin USA | | | | | |
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note.boy

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Dec 1, 2008, 5:25:44 PM12/1/08
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The eurocrats being what they are I imagine that the UK would be allowed
just one design of euro coin. Billy


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Lorrie S.

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Dec 1, 2008, 11:37:41 PM12/1/08
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"note.boy" <note...@naespamntlworld.com> wrote > Londoners are widely

regarded by UK residents as the least nice people in
> the UK, they have no manners

yer absolutely right. I made the mistake of asking a London newspaper
vendor for directions and got cursed for it. It's too bad Hitler never
wiped London off the face of the earth long before I ended up there.


Roger Hunt

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Dec 1, 2008, 11:02:54 PM12/1/08
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In article <gh23hr$jej$1...@news.motzarella.org>, Lorrie S.
<lorri...@yahoo.com> writes
I live in a small corner of England where, if any uppity stranger asks
for directions, they can expect to be either told "If you need
directions you've no business here", or, if they persist, "F*ck off
back where you came from."
It is a very good place to live.
--
Roger Hunt

Bruce Remick

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Dec 2, 2008, 9:16:23 AM12/2/08
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"Roger Hunt" <nos...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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1. How about a genuinely polite stranger?

2. We still do the same thing in some parts of rural New England. Towns
must've been settled by you folks way back when.


Roger Hunt

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Dec 2, 2008, 10:08:49 AM12/2/08
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In article <YqbZk.11829$M33...@newsfe03.iad>, Bruce Remick
<rem...@cox.net> writes

>"Roger Hunt" <nos...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:h74NLuAu...@nospam.demon.co.uk...
>> In article <gh23hr$jej$1...@news.motzarella.org>, Lorrie S.
>> <lorri...@yahoo.com> writes
>>>"note.boy" <note...@naespamntlworld.com> wrote > Londoners are widely
>>>regarded by UK residents as the least nice people in
>>>> the UK, they have no manners
>>>
>>>yer absolutely right. I made the mistake of asking a London newspaper
>>>vendor for directions and got cursed for it. It's too bad Hitler never
>>>wiped London off the face of the earth long before I ended up there.
>>>
>> I live in a small corner of England where, if any uppity stranger asks
>> for directions, they can expect to be either told "If you need
>> directions you've no business here", or, if they persist, "F*ck off
>> back where you came from."
>> It is a very good place to live.
>
>1. How about a genuinely polite stranger?
>
Welcomed with open arms and treated royally.

>2. We still do the same thing in some parts of rural New England. Towns
>must've been settled by you folks way back when.
>
Yes probably - it is an honest approach which horrifies the politically
correct but it does deliver the message very efficiently.
--
Roger Hunt

PC

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Dec 7, 2008, 1:08:35 PM12/7/08
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"note.boy" <note...@naespamntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Londoners are widely regarded by UK residents as the least nice people in
> the UK, they have no manners, I may be bias however being Scottish, by far
> the nicest of course. :-) Billy
>

I think that population density goes a long way toward the level of
politeness in people. I have met lots of rude pricks in Paris, Amsterdam,
New York, and London. I have met many nice people in those places too.
However in places like Aix-en-Provence, Haarlem, numerous small towns in
America, and all over New Zealand I have found the nicest people you can
ever imagine.

For some time I began to think that forming an actual line (or queue) must
be unique to the UK and US because in so many mainland European cities
people have no problem walking right past you without even bothering to
check if you are in line even though you have been standing behind the
person who was just being helped the whole time. It seems like if you are
not practically having intimate relations with the person in front of you
then that is a sure sign you are not waiting in line.

It all clicked when I was with my dad and uncles in Germany last year. We
were boarding a train and were settling in to our seats in between the
trains. A German couple came through the connecting doors and my uncles
politely stepped aside to let the German couple pass. They proceeded to
take our seats!

In a place with high population density you don't have time for little
pleasantries and politeness. You want the seat, take it before someone else
does. The German couple surely did not act as if they had any idea that
they were perceived to be rude. I think they probably did not consider it
rude. If we were not sitting in the seats we must not want them, I suppose.

PC

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Dec 7, 2008, 1:09:47 PM12/7/08
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"Roger Hunt" <nos...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Welcomed with open arms and treated royally.
>>2. We still do the same thing in some parts of rural New England. Towns
>>must've been settled by you folks way back when.
>>
> Yes probably - it is an honest approach which horrifies the politically
> correct but it does deliver the message very efficiently.

I hope your entire town is lost in a major urban area some day and has to
ask for directions.

Or do they never leave the county?

Bruce Remick

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"PC" <P...@Minneapolis.mn.us> wrote in message
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Some small rural villages don't want an influx of uppity urbanites, so they
seldom go out of their way to be friendly to them when they pull into town.
On the other hand, people in big cities are often too into themselves and
their own business to bother with direction questions. Can be a waste of
time asking in both cases.


PC

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Dec 7, 2008, 2:13:51 PM12/7/08
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"Bruce Remick" <rem...@cox.net> wrote in message
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That is why in the US we insist on having a gas station on every corner with
a clerk who knows the entire four block radius really well.

Bruce Remick

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Dec 7, 2008, 2:25:18 PM12/7/08
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"PC" <P...@Minneapolis.mn.us> wrote in message
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That was last year. This year most everyone has their own portable GPS.
Those few who don't have a GPS can steal one from someone who does, and that
poor soul will go out and buy a replacement.

In some small villages, unless you ask the location of the "Washburn House",
people won't know what you're talking about if you just give an address.


PC

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Dec 7, 2008, 3:01:11 PM12/7/08
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"Bruce Remick" <rem...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>
>>
>> That is why in the US we insist on having a gas station on every corner
>> with a clerk who knows the entire four block radius really well.
>
> That was last year. This year most everyone has their own portable GPS.
> Those few who don't have a GPS can steal one from someone who does, and
> that poor soul will go out and buy a replacement.
>
> In some small villages, unless you ask the location of the "Washburn
> House", people won't know what you're talking about if you just give an
> address.
>

"Oh sure, I know that place. You take a left at the creek. Not the large
creek, the small creek. But don't mistake the Thompson Stream as a creek.
That will take you past the manure fields and on to the next state. You
don't want that. After a couple blocks take a left where the old oak tree
used to be ..."

som...@some.domain

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Dec 7, 2008, 5:52:33 PM12/7/08
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gps! fuck everyone!

Jud

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Dec 7, 2008, 6:37:58 PM12/7/08
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Bruce Remick wrote:


> 2. We still do the same thing in some parts of rural New England. Towns
> must've been settled by you folks way back when.

Famous saying from Maine "You can't get theah from heah" Or to expound
upon that "You have to go elsewheah fust"

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