If anyone was left off, this wasn't deliberate. I just typed into
Google Groups the names I've believe I've seen the most, scanning my
newsreader for guidance. With a few posters that I recognized as
having posted from more than one account, I combined their totals.
Some people use handles rather than their real names, and when I knew
their name, I used it instead of their handle. The cut-off was 200
messages or more. To those who didn't make this esteemed list,
congratulations -- you have a life. <g> There were actually a fair
number of people who posted more than 150 times (I started to include
them but it got too tedious). Be careful. You're a borderline Usenet
nerd. <g>
Alan Williams -- 865
Coin Saver -- 375
Eric Tillery -- 360
Scottishmoney -- 336
Bruce Hickmott -- 243
Reid Goldsborough -- 236
Bob Flaminio -- 231
Jorg Lueke -- 222
Bruce Remick -- 221
Gary Loveless -- 209
Scot Kamins -- 201
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>...This is a tally of posts
> from the first of this year, using Google Groups' "Advanced Groups
> Search," which provides approximate numbers...
>
> Alan Williams -- 865
> Coin Saver -- 375
> Eric Tillery -- 360
> Scottishmoney -- 336
> Bruce Hickmott -- 243
> Reid Goldsborough -- 236
> Bob Flaminio -- 231
> Jorg Lueke -- 222
> Bruce Remick -- 221
> Gary Loveless -- 209
> Scot Kamins -- 201
>
>
I weep with joy at being included in (mostly) such an august group - and
in such a short time, too (although I don't quite believe the count).
Scot Kamins
---
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Alan
'#866 in a series, collect them all'
I feel left out. Sniff! But statistics can always be manipulated to give the
desired results. Try recalculating since February 1st, and I'm confident
I'll secure a place on the nerd list of honor. I got off to a very slow
start in January.
Eric
'nerd by profession'
Shoddy and inaccurate work as always. Search the date span with myself
as the author in R.C.C. Reid's count for me is better than 200% of
reality.
I wouldn't trust that guy to count the fingers on his own hands.
Alan
'Reid's a damnable Troll'
It's easiest just to wait until netscan updates their info and then post
the latest stats. That way you can save more time for posting ;-)
>Shoddy and inaccurate work as always. Search the date span with myself
>as the author in R.C.C. Reid's count for me is better than 200% of
>reality.
>
>I wouldn't trust that guy to count the fingers on his own hands.
>
>Alan
>'Reid's a damnable Troll'
Well, Alan, it had to be "shoddy and inaccurate work" because the only
other option was to go look up the actual posting data and claim it as his
own.
Besides, we must also add to Reid's score the number of posts he's removed
from the archive.
BLReed
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Actually, Billy, Reid is lying again. I went to google and entered this
newsgroup, my e-mail address (that covers both halves of this happily
married couple) and set the dates from Jan 1, 2004 to present. I've not
posted 800 times, nor 700 times, nor 600 nor 500 times. It returned 460
posts.
Sure, that's a lot! I have no idea if anyone has more or less. I do
know that 865 is a total falsehood, flamebait, as a matter of fact and
yes, it worked, it ticked me off.
I do try to be relevant and civil in my postings, and to be a welcome
contributor, as opposed to...well, as opposed to the obvious.
Alan
'if Reid counts my colons, he'll find a secret message'
Didn't know I was that bad, Between a full time job, property manager
and USe net, my days are quite full!!
Gary
Dang Alan is your whole life USe net and ping pong?? :)
Gary
'coin collecting has to be in there somewhere...........'
Hmmmm. Is this biographical essay time? ;-) I'm a son, a husband, a
father, an uncle four times over, a brother times two, a marketing
director, a breadwinner, tax payer, a coin hunter, musician, writer,
internet jockey, landscaper/gardener,bricklayer,
shelf-makin',wood-choppin', ash-haulin' snow shoveler (seasonally) who
reads biographies, histories, mysteries, science fiction and french
existentialists when not preparing good,plain food with a subtle hint of
lemon or going four-wheeling to the local gym for some exercise and
competition with my two or three dozen closest friends.
Alan
'really ought to get busy'
> It returned 460 posts.
It returned 407 when I searched.
--
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Hey,Alan,got a minute?
You really need a hobby :)))))))
>"Alan & Erin Williams" <will...@mindspring.com> wrote
>
>> It returned 460 posts.
>
>It returned 407 when I searched.
It depends on how you search.
Alan & Erin Williams or associated e-mail address - 407 posts
Alan Williams - 460 posts
IIRC Alan sometimes posts from a different account with just his own name.
++++++++++
Phil DeMayo - always here for my fellow Stooge
When bidding online always sit on your helmet
Just say NO to counterfeits
In either case, I am doing my best today to make a reality of Reid's
fanatasy. I figure I need 50 posts/hour for the next 8 hours to make
his words true.
Alan
'fulfilling the goal'
It would have to be bonsai, or some other long-term yield pleasure. ;-)
Alan
'others do more'
"Shoddy and inaccurate work as always. Search the date span with myself as the
author in R.C.C. Reid's count for me is better than 200% of reality.
I wouldn't trust that guy to count the fingers on his own hands."
Shoddy and inaccurate work, you say? Sounds familiar...
Tell me, Alan. Do you, by any chance, ever have a bird perched on your arm as
you post? Do you sit at your pc desk with your legs crossed or uncrossed?
Could make a difference.
;-)
Anka <----- Alandrou
No birds on my arm, legs...check!
Alan
'posture counts?'
I can't believe I've hit the SEND button 221 times since January, unless you
counted the posts to the porno and alt.theology.hiphop groups. Notice I'm
not saying you LIED here, though.
It appears you're lacking fresh motivation for your choice of research
topics, Reid.
Bruce
'222 and tied with Jorg!'
It seems that way sometimes, doesn't it. And he's left seven more
messages in this thread, far more than anybody else. But it's not the
quantity, it's the quality, that counts. <g>
>Didn't know I was that bad, Between a full time job, property manager
>and USe net, my days are quite full!!
You're so bad you're ... good. <g>
>Well, Alan, it had to be "shoddy and inaccurate work" because the only
>other option was to go look up the actual posting data and claim it as his
>own.
What sense does this make? These thoughts are non sequiturs -- they
don't relate to one another -- and they're wrong. It has to be shoddy
and inaccurate work? I went to Google Groups and typed in people's
names and specified a period of 1/1/04 to the present. Then I copied
and pasted. I had to do one addition, I believe, Alan's posts from the
two handles he uses.
And how does this relate to looking up actual posting data? Alan said
I did this, that I counted every post, which of course is absurd as it
would have taken countless hours, and now you're saying, what, that I
should have done this for it not to be shoddy and inaccurate work? And
how does this relate to my claiming it as my own? You can't claim data
as your own. It's not copyrightable. Only the expression of data is
copyrightable. Are you saying that if I counted every message every
poster left here I would have claimed this data as my own?
>I can't believe I've hit the SEND button 221 times since January, unless you
>counted the posts to the porno and alt.theology.hiphop groups. Notice I'm
>not saying you LIED here, though.
I'm glad you're not saying I lied. That of course would also be
absurd. You can check yourself at Google Groups using the procedure I
pointed to. You can do it for this group and the porno and theology
groups you mention also. P.S. Is there a group that combines both?
Tantra, maybe, but that of course isn't porn as it's commonly
regarded. How about combining all three of these interests of yours --
coins, porn, and theology? You can actually do this, or come close to
it, with some coins of ancient Thrace that I've referred to here
before, which depict what's often interpreted as a mythological rape,
an anatomically excited satyr ravaging a nymph. But in reading more
about these coins and about ancient Thrace and the worship of
Dionysos, I believe that this is an incorrect interpretation, that the
act depicted on these coins is consensual, that it's a Dionysian
dance, a religious rite practiced in the ancient world involving
sexuality. Still not porn, but it does involve the sexuality and
theology you're after.
I won't say you've lied, either, but you are significantly in error.
When, in Google Groups, you do an advanced search on "Alan Williams" it tallies both
"Alan Williams" *AND* "Alan & Erin Williams."
Therefore you double-counted Alan.
This has already been pointed out to you in this thread.
I believe you owe Alan an apology.
Jeff
(can count)
>I had to do one addition, I believe, Alan's posts from the
>two handles he uses.
And I suppose you added the two results....that was your mistake.
Since the poster identity from both e-mail addresses contains "Alan Williams"
all you had to do was type that into the "author" field and you would have
received the correct combined total of 460.
If you used both "Alan & Erin Williams" and "Alan Williams" you probably got
something like 405 + 460 = 865.....but the first 405 posts were also included
in the 460.
Sorry about the numbers, they are not even close. Try it yourself,
unless I am mising something here is what I came up with on your
name Alan. Now I know that this number is NOT right. but it is
interesting
Alan OR Williams -re group:rec.collecting.coins author:Alan author:
Williams
Searched Groups for Alan OR Williams -re group:rec.collecting.coins
author:Alan
author:Williams.
Results 1 - 100 of about 431. Search took 4.30 seconds
Sorted by date
Mar 7, 2004 by Alan & Erin Williams, TO
Oct 19, 2001 by Alan & Erin Williams That is 431 starting oct
19, 2001
then I went this way
Alan OR & OR Erin OR Williams -re group:rec.collecting.coins
author:Alan author:& author:Erin author:Williams
Searched Groups for Alan OR & OR Erin OR Williams -re
group:rec.collecting.coins author:Alan author:& author:Erin
author:Williams.
Results 1 - 100 of about 428
Sorted by date
Mar 7, 2004 by Alan & Erin Williams
Oct 19, 2001 by Alan & Erin Williams That is 428 starting oct 19,
2001
OH YES, I did take the liberty of taking out RE. and used you as
Author. If you do NOT take out the RE, it is kinda funny that you
get every post that people replyed to your post.
Now, if I leave in the RE this is what i came up with.
Searched Groups for Alan & Erin Williams group:rec.collecting.coins
from Jan 1, 2004 to
today. Results
1 - 100 of about 813. Search took 0.23 seconds
Now, if I take out the RE this is what i came up with.
Searched Groups for Alan Williams -re. group:rec.collecting.coins
from Jan 1, 2004 to today. Results 1 - 31 of 31. Search took 0.83
seconds
Dang Alan, while I was going through a couple of the post (the big
number that is) I found Reid Goldsborough in there answering one of
your post (it counted in the numbers) and I found a lot of other
names in there also....... How many handles do you have?
Roscoe. LMAO I know that I need to get a life, but please, give
it a damn rest REID! YOu have said time and time again that you
NEVER start any of this shit? Come on now, what was the purpose of
this post may I ask if not to start trouble, which you did. Now you
can go to bed with your thumb in your mouth and sleep with your
teddy bear.
Roscoe, cant beleive that Reid started this, well it is a full
moon...
Phil.
Go and take a look at them yourself, you will find that Reid
counted every post that "Alan & Erin Williams" not only started, BUT
each and every re. everybody that replied to their post, in which
Reid was a very large part of.
Roscoe
<SNIP>
> I don't know if this is another deliberate lie or just some very weird
> inability to get the truth right.
Well Sir, why don't you tell the truth about the numbers?
> Above you say I counted everyone's
> messages and tried to make fun of me for this. But you QUOTED part of
> my post that refutes what you just said. I didn't *count* these
> messages. Google Groups tallies the numbers automatically.
>
> And then you say in several MORE messages of yours that I *lied* about
> the number of your posts???
You DID lie about the number of post that he STARTED. I went and
checked, you are including some of your OWN post in that number
Reid! You are including every post that was sent in reply to his
post which he did not post. Go and take a look at it, I did.
> Do it yourself! As I pointed out, all you
> have to do is go to Google Groups' "Advanced Groups Search."
>
> This was not meant as an attack on YOU.
This was an attack on not only Alan, (which I believe is the ONLY
reason you posted this in the first place) but everyone that you
included in that list
Then what was it? Please tell? Oh, it must be the full moon out
tonight that made you do it.
> Get a grip! I've done this
> before, here and elsewhere, as I said. It's a fun, and easy, way to
> self-reflect, individually and as a group.
>
> --
>
> Email: reid...@removethisnetaxs.com (delete "remove this")
Roscoe, I need a life and need to stay out of this
Reid *says* a lot of things...
Jeff
> I won't say you've lied, either, but you are significantly in error.
> When, in Google Groups, you do an advanced search on "Alan Williams" it
tallies both
> "Alan Williams" *AND* "Alan & Erin Williams."
>
> Therefore you double-counted Alan.
>
> This has already been pointed out to you in this thread.
>
> I believe you owe Alan an apology.
>
> Jeff
> (can count)
Crikey Jeff, you really think what you say will even penetrate his cranium?
Maybe "it" should look at your site more often, make that much more often
because "it's" retention is shallow, and then maybe just maybe "it" will be
edumacated into reality.
Dave
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It's okay, Wheeler.
We can help Reid, really we can, and do a favor to the rest of RCC. He
may flame and whine and sputter and spew, but if no one replies, what
can he do? Play two roles himself? Yes, he's been there before, the one
single poster to be both sides in war. I say let him try it, he must be
dreadfully bored! with so many people having him set to 'Ignore'.
Alan
'Quick, Henry! The Flit!'
Geez, that's hard though.
When some kid sticks up his hand and screams "hit me! hit me! go on! I double-dare
you! hit me!" who has sufficient self-control to avoid swiping him?
I can refrain *most* of the time, but...
Jeff
For future reference, and for legal purposes, the "swiping" referred to above is a
metaphorical, and not a literal reference. I am not advocating actually striking
anyone.
--for the record--
(just in case)
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, and a decent interval to respond, before I
consider him terminably impenetrable.
I'm assuming (generously) that he hasn't noticed his glaring error, and will be
gracious enough to concede it when he gets around to noticing it.
Jeff
(not holding my breath, though)
You are right..... I should have just put this on ignore and plugged
in some Eric Clapton but I did not do that....... Maybe take a chill
pill? The V.A. gave me a bunch of them... Now to go back to the 60's
with what I got now.... Wait a minute, I "think" I might have been
there done that? Just can not sleep tonight. The home health care
nurse gave me a shot in with my IV tonight and it hit me like a hit
of speed........ And nervous as a whore in,,,,,,,,, well drop it.
Roscoe
I am sure you Aussies have a similar saying along the lines of " don't put
your hands on your arse or they will grow there"
> I am sure you Aussies have a similar saying along the lines of " don't put
> your hands on your arse or they will grow there"
>
> Dave
We Aussies have a ripper repertoire of vulgar expressions, but I can't immediately
think of one *quite* like that.
Colin? You lurking?
There's a chap who knows his vulgar expressions. ;-)
Bedtime. Hooroo for now.
Jeff
Here is the beast of all of them:
http://mendosus.com/pissi.html
Sorry, I don't understand a word you said there. But I am now led to
believe that your 221 post-count for me includes all the replies to any post
I originated, plus replies to my replies. Meaning I did not hit SEND 221
times this year, thank God. Is this true? If you don't know the answer,
maybe you shouldn't have started this thread.
Bruce
Bruce, I didn't double-check all of Reid's bogus stats, but so far as I
could tell he over-counted his by 2 posts (there may have been two more
deletions in the interval between postings?), exaggerated mine by more
than 400 and had Bruce Hickmott dead on the money.
I skimmed the words above, and I think Reid is inviting you to discuss
ancient sexuality. Perhaps there is a newsgroup like alt.fan.
westheimer where it would be more on topic.
I agree, Reid should have double-checked his results rather than
doubling them before starting this thread.
Alan
'third eye blind'
"When, in Google Groups, you do an advanced search on 'Alan Williams'
it tallies both 'Alan Williams' *AND* 'Alan & Erin Williams.'
Therefore you double-counted Alan."
Dobac math at its wackiest.
Anka <---- with apologies to Tim
>If you used both "Alan & Erin Williams" and "Alan Williams" you probably got
something like 405 + 460 = 865.....but the first 405 posts were also included
in the 460.>
"his" version of "Dobac Math", eh?
8-0
Coin Saver
>...This is a tally of posts from the first of this year>
Last year's finale I was sixth ... now, I'm second ... I wonder if I can
maintain this improvement?
ooooh, the pressure!
8-|
Coin Saver
>Sorry, I don't understand a word you said there.
You were talking about your posts to the porno and alt.theology.hiphop
groups. I was just pointing out a coin type I've done some research
into that combines sexuality and spirituality. In the same spirit...
>But I am now led to
>believe that your 221 post-count for me includes all the replies to any post
>I originated, plus replies to my replies. Meaning I did not hit SEND 221
>times this year, thank God. Is this true? If you don't know the answer,
>maybe you shouldn't have started this thread.
Do it yourself. Go to:
http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search
Type in the name of this newsgroup in the Newsgroup field, your own
name in the Author field, and the dates of 1/1/04 and today's date in
the Message Dates fields. Hit Google Search in the upper right. Read
the results number, which Google Groups indicates is "about," or
approximate.
>Last year's finale I was sixth ... now, I'm second ... I wonder if I
>can maintain this improvement?
Do you really want to call it an improvement? ;-)
I don't want to do it myself. I couldn't care less about whatever you're
trying to do here. You started this. You should be ready to explain it. I
saw my name included in your post so I replied. Otherwise I wouldn't have
bothered. I still think you have way too much free time on your hands and
nothing productive to inspire you.
Bruce
Dale
>I don't want to do it myself. I couldn't care less about whatever you're
>trying to do here.
You questioned your number. I showed you how to come up with the
number yourself. Whatever.
>You started this. You should be ready to explain it.
I *did* explain it. I explained how I came up with the numbers.
>I still think you have way too much free time on your hands and
>nothing productive to inspire you.
You're right. I actually have projects I need to jump on but have been
putting off. Maybe your message here will motivate me. <g>
> 177 times for me
>
> Dale
>
>
196 here.
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---------------------------
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Nick is a DICK!
Reid is a troglodyte!
>Play two roles himself? Yes, he's been there before, the one
>single poster to be both sides in war.
It would be interesting to know where Reid stands on the list if the
sockpuppets are added to his tally.
BLReed
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>
>"Byron L. Reed" <rccR_E_M...@byronreed.com> wrote in message
>news:hvlp40pjsjegandvo...@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 10:57:31 GMT, Alan & Erin Williams
>> <will...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Play two roles himself? Yes, he's been there before, the one
>> >single poster to be both sides in war.
>>
>>
>> It would be interesting to know where Reid stands on the list if the
>> sockpuppets are added to his tally.
>>
>> BLReed
>>
>Calling all phantom creations of Ried's perverted and sickly little mind.
>
>Dave
That won't work, you've got to bait them:
Reid, you use information from RCC posters to write your articles without proper
citations.
Reid, counterfeit coins are illegal to own and will be taken when the Secret
Service gets around to you.
There! That should bring them all screaming out of the woodwork.
Bruce :-)
>Do you really want to call it an improvement? ;-)>
"Improvement is as improvement does"
-Forrest Hanks.
8-)
Coin Saver
--
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ANA# R-176949
http://home.netcom.com/~richlh
"I just checked, and I did indeed make a mistake in my assumptions about how
Google Groups works. I had assumed that it distinguished people's handles
<snip> "
Mr. Syndicated Computer Journalist doesn't understand Google advanced searches.
Anka <---- I love it!
Dang it Scott...quit trying to outpost me I wanna be second from the
bottom!!!! :) :)
Gary
Scot Kamins -- 217
Gary Loveless -- 215
Phil DeMayo - 206
There you go.
>
>"Reid Goldsborough" <reidgold...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:kqnm40l4640ujs8i2...@4ax.com...
>> There's an old saying, "The more interesting your life become, the
>> less you post, and vice versa." As I've done periodically in the past,
>> with this and other forums, I just did a 15-minute, quick-and-dirty
>> compilation of the number of messages people have posted here (not
>> having anything better to do right now...). This is a tally of posts
>> from the first of this year, using Google Groups' "Advanced Groups
>> Search," which provides approximate numbers.
>>
>> If anyone was left off, this wasn't deliberate. I just typed into
>> Google Groups the names I've believe I've seen the most, scanning my
>> newsreader for guidance. With a few posters that I recognized as
>> having posted from more than one account, I combined their totals.
>> Some people use handles rather than their real names, and when I knew
>> their name, I used it instead of their handle. The cut-off was 200
>> messages or more. To those who didn't make this esteemed list,
>> congratulations -- you have a life. <g> There were actually a fair
>> number of people who posted more than 150 times (I started to include
>> them but it got too tedious). Be careful. You're a borderline Usenet
>> nerd. <g>
>>
>> Alan Williams -- 865
>> Coin Saver -- 375
>> Eric Tillery -- 360
>> Scottishmoney -- 336
>> Bruce Hickmott -- 243
>> Reid Goldsborough -- 236
>> Bob Flaminio -- 231
>> Jorg Lueke -- 222
>> Bruce Remick -- 221
>> Gary Loveless -- 209
>> Scot Kamins -- 201
>
>I can't believe I've hit the SEND button 221 times since January, unless you
>counted the posts to the porno and alt.theology.hiphop groups. Notice I'm
>not saying you LIED here, though.
>
>It appears you're lacking fresh motivation for your choice of research
>topics, Reid.
>
>
>Bruce
>'222 and tied with Jorg!'
>
>
Right behind you and catching up!!
Gary
You like their music too?? :)
Gary
>> 177 times for me
>>
>> Dale
>>
>>
>
> 196 here.
>
29
Auditioning for the job at the Naval Observatory, Dan?
Alan
'cesium timepiece'
You posted my name and how many newsgroup posts I have made without asking
if I minded being singled out this way among hundreds of other posters.
That caught my eye. I'm not interested in the number or how to come up with
it. And maybe I'm also not interested in your pointing it out to the world,
either. Get it?
>
> >You started this. You should be ready to explain it.
>
> I *did* explain it. I explained how I came up with the numbers.
YOU didn't come up with the numbers. Google did. I asked you to explain
what they indicate. I know I didn't originate 225 posts in two months. I'd
also be surprised if I posted 225 replies on RCC during that same time,
although I don't really care. I asked what the 225 indicates after reading
some posts that suggest it might include all replies to any post I may have
originated. You say you like to do research. Go for it.
Bruce
> Auditioning for the job at the Naval Observatory, Dan?
>
> Alan
> 'cesium timepiece'
>
Trying to get my count up into nerddom ;o)
Apparently content isn't important.
You've gotta give him credit though, he does start some of the longest
threads.
33
>Mr. Syndicated Computer Journalist
Stop sucking up, please. It's not dignified.
> doesn't understand Google advanced searches.
There are a lot of things I don't understand.
>I asked what the 225 indicates after reading
>some posts that suggest it might include all replies to any post I may have
>originated.
And I told you what the number signifies, and it's not, AGAIN, replies
to your posts! It's an approximation by Google Groups of the number of
posts left. Not replies by others. Enough already...
> You could at
>least come up with an original lie instead of reusing the same old one
>over and over.
Read: "I don't want to answer."
>
> I just checked,
You didn't need to "check" Reid.
You'd been told.
Repeatedly.
>...and I did indeed make a mistake in my assumptions
> about how Google Groups works. I had assumed that it distinguished
> people's handles, so I added the number of posts from "Alan & Erin
> Williams" to those from "Alan Williams." I did this because Google
> Groups came up with different numbers for each. But in checking just
> now, I see that some of these are duplicated, that is, Google Groups
> includes some of the same posts when you search "Alan & Erin Williams"
> and "Alan Williams."
>
...which demonstrates that Reid *still* doesn't understand how the search function
works.
Reid, there's no need to explain the mistake you made, when a number of posters have
already explained it to *you*!
> Despite the lunatic rants here, this was not my lying about this, my
> deliberately inflating Alan's numbers.
No, we understand this was ignorance... gleeful ignorance.
The lie was in any assumption of your competence.
>...This, as I said in my first
> post, was a quick-and-dirty 15-minute exercise, something I've done
> here in the past and in other online forums. In the past, I've added
> the number of posts of those who use more than one handle, but I
> suppose it worked in these cases, and not in the current case, because
> the handles didn't include the same words.
!
...and I believe the sun rises somewhere around the east - but that's only a quick
and dirty assumption.
> Here are the corrected numbers,
<snip>
who cares?
>... Just so you don't
> misunderstand this too, IT WAS A JOKE. I'm not attacking anyone, not
> you, not myself, not this newsgroup, not the Internet community, not
> the Pope or the President or Bambi or Sadam Hussein.
Now *that* is a lie.
There.
I've done it.
I've finally succumbed and joined the masses who have accused you of lying.
Your original post was transparently flamebait AND YOU KNOW IT.
As if (!) you would post a list with your principal antagonist at the top (with
ignorantly, stupidly inflated statistics), assign a derogatory appelation to the list
members, if your intention was anything other than starting a flamewar.
Reid, you are an ignorant, incompetent, pathetic, juvenile liar.
Feel free to dismiss this statement with wave of the hand and a sneer. There's
*nothing* you can say or do that deserves consideration anyway.
You are truly a waste of oxygen.
Jeff
(Oh! And did I mention you are a coward, too?)
He has forgotten so much in 8 years. ;-/
From: reid...@voicenet.com (Reid Goldsborough)
Subject: Search engine tips
Date: 1996/08/06
Message-ID: <3206aec8...@netnews.voicenet.com>#1/1
organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290
newsgroups: alt.usenet.surveys
Do you have any tips to share about using one or more Internet search
engines most effectively? This is for a new column called "Mining for
Meaning" that appears in MSNBC Interactive, the new online
publication/news service from Microsoft and NBC
(http://www.msnbc.com).
You can respond here if you like for others to see too, or send
e-mail, either way. Thanks.
Reid Goldsborough~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Author of the book Straight Talk About the Information Superhighway
E-mail: reid...@netaxs.com or reid...@voicenet.com
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From: dcy...@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Darlene Cypser)
Newsgroups: misc.writing
Subject: Re: Usenet and fair use
Date: 29 May 1994 04:25:14 -0600
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reid...@netaxs.com (Reid Goldsborough) writes:
>
>I've read with interest recent Usenet articles about the copyright status
>of Usenet postings. Here's a related issue: How does the fair use doctrine
>of copyright law apply to net postings? Fair use stipulates that you can
>freely use portions of copyrighted works under various conditions, the
>most important of which are that the copying not be too extensive and that
>the use of the work not diminish its market value.
>So, in the view of anyone reading this, would using a Usenet article, say,
>in a newspaper article as an illustration of the kind of information
>exchanged on the Internet be covered under fair use? The fair use doctrine
>doesn't require you to be given permission to use portions of copyrighted
>works, so it would seem that you wouldn't need permission to use net postings
>for illustrative purposes. But should you use the author's/poster's name?
You can't use the entire posting or "extensive" exerpts from it and
still claim it is "fair use". Furthermore, whether _you_ profit from
the
use is also important as to whether it is "fair use." Usually, if you
are
making money off the publication it isn't fair use.
Darlene Cypser
From: reid...@netaxs.com (Reid Goldsborough)
Subject: Re: Hey, I've been quoted!
Date: 1998/11/19
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On 19 Nov 1998 04:08:26 GMT, "Tetractys" <tetr...@bigfoot.com>
wrote:
>So watch what you say.
>
>Someone might be listening.
>...
I'm surprised no one has brought up the issue of whether it's
acceptable for a journalist to use a snippet of a Usenet post a)
without the poster's permission and b) without naming the poster.
This is a controversial issue. Some feel that under the Fair Use
doctrine it's OK to take a snippet without permission. Some people
skirt the issue of having to ask for permission by not naming the
poster, as happened here. Some feel that it's simply courteous, in a
netiquette kind of way, to ask first even if it's not legally binding
to do so.
I personally don't have particularly strong feelings about all this.
It's just sorta interesting as a new media issue.
From: Reid Goldsborough <reid...@netaxs.com>
Newsgroups: rec.collecting.coins
Subject: Re: 1799 Draped Bust Large Cent on eBay
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On 22 Oct 2000 14:28:14 GMT, strickl...@aol.com (StricklerSports)
wrote:
><a
>href="http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedI
>tems&rows=0&userid=stricklersports&since=-1&sort=2">currently on
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>VISA/MC/DISCOVER ACCEPTED<br>
>
>Email us to be included on our mailing list for specials and updates.<p>
Hey, Lon. Some friendly advice here. You may not realize it, but your
behavior is doing the exact opposite of what you may think it's doing.
Instead of engendering feelings of trust and enticing people to buy
your coins, you've probably turned off several hundred would-be
customers.
This newsgroup is a community, and like every community it has norms.
These norms are shared in the form of an FAQ, which is published here
regularly. It's good manners before leaving a message in any Usenet
newsgroup, not just this one, to read the FAQ to see how the group has
organized itself.
You've not only failed to do this, when people point out this out, and
that your behavior runs counter to it, you rebelliously continue the
same behavior. These rules aren't just anal compulsiveness from
stickler schoolmarms. When you post the same message a half dozen
times, you waste the time of people following this newsgroup. When you
post in HTML instead of straight text, you make it more difficult for
most people to read what your write and link to Web pages you mention.
If everybody did as you did, this newsgroup would cease to be an
attractive place to visit.
Finally, some very knowledgeable people have pointed out that the
large cent you continue to hawk is in all likely altered. In response,
you insult them and continue to try to sell it here with mindless
repetitive messages. A much smarter move would be to have the coin
authenticated by the ANA or one of the legitimate slabbing services.
Then you can leave an FA message here and hope that people will
forgive your initial ignorance and rudeness.
>
> Reid, you are an ignorant, incompetent, pathetic, juvenile liar.
>
Who was quoted, in 2001:
From: br...@blarg.net (Brad)
Newsgroups: rec.collecting.coins
Subject: Re: Fakes, ancient and modern
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>>Brad says:
>>Why should he abide by US laws?
>
>Reid says:
>
>Of course, Slavei, in Bulgaria, doesn't have to abide by U.S. laws.
>But those importing his unmarked fakes should. You're right that the
>Hobby Protection Act, even though not enforced, governs the
>manufacture and import of unmarked fakes, not the sale.
Well, I didn't say any of that last sentence, actually.
Please don't put words in my mouth.
I won't comment on your attempt to determine who should
follow what laws.
>My view on this, and we all know that there are many different views,
>is that Slavei is counterfeiting under the pretense of creating
>"artwork." Slavei has also trained many others to create very
>high-fidelity fakes of ancient coins. All this just adds to the
>uncertainty of the ancient coins marketplace.
For more information, see the interview with him at
http://www.12caesars.com/Articles/SlaveyInterview/SlaveyPart1/slaveypart1.html
>I have no problem buying a genuine (!) counterfeit. These coins were
>clearly made to deceive, and having them on hand can help me, and
>others, from being deceived in future purchases.
What is a "genuine" counterfeit?
>On the other hand, I do have a problem buying an unmarked replica
>because of the hypocrisy I believe is involved. Slavei says his work
>is not meant to deceive but clearly in many cases it does deceive. You
>can contend that experts aren't fooled, but the ratio of expert
>ancient coin buyers to all ancient coin buyers is maybe 1 in a 100.
I don't consider myself an expert. Not even close. I can't
tell a Roman mint coin from a Cyzicus coin if my life depended
on it (if I can't see a mint mark). But I can tell a Slavey
coin from a small picture of either side in two seconds or less.
Brad
But more recently, he proclaimed:
From: reidgold...@yahoo.com (Reid Goldsborough)
Newsgroups: rec.collecting.coins
Subject: Alan Williams -- Periodic Post
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Alan continues to lie about Slavey Petrov, the Bulgarian ancient coin
replica maker. Stupidly, he continues to call him a counterfeiter as
well. In the past, Alan told the lie that I actively imported his
unmarked replicas, that I broke the law by doing this, when in fact
I've never imported a single unmarked replica. I buy Slavey replicas
from dealers in this country, a perfectly legal activity. What's more,
Slavey in the past made unmarked replicas, but as I've said here, his
recent ones are marked. Truth doesn't stop Alan. And even Slavey's
unmarked replicas are obvious replicas. Alan calls them counterfeits,
stupidly. They're no more counterfeits than a poster of a Rembrandt
oil painting is a forgery. Slavey uses a deliberately flamboyant style
recognizable to anybody who's been around ancient coins for more than
a week, and he presses his replicas rather than striking them, causing
flat, uniform fields that no ancient coin has. He doesn't attempt to
deceive -- unlike Alan.
These two posts, in support of your thesis, Jeff. In July 2001, Reid
claimed Petrov is a counterfeiter. He's been screaming at me for months
as 'stupid' for saying the same thing. Good luck finding his original
post, BTW. It's gone Zappy-Dancer.
Alan
'Winston Smith was a piker'
Reid, I think you've got a pompous nerve to claim "enough already" after
assembling a list of RCC'ers who post a lot (numbers included) here and
suggesting that they are "Usenet nerds". Of course your original post and
subsequent replies were interspersed with your usual dumb <g> <g> as if to
absolve you of any intent to embarass or annoy the individuals you listed.
And as usual, when you get the inevitable negative responses from some
inevitable responders you claim you are being *viciously attacked*. You
sure have a warped sense of what is a joke and when to post these
unsolicited "jokes". Talk about fanning the same flames that you complain
so loudly about.
Bruce
>Coin Saver -- 384>
=sigh=
even "Dobac Math" puts me second.
8-|
Coin Saver
"Do you have any tips to share about using one or more Internet search
engines most effectively? This is for a new column..."
Well, I see Reid's modus operandi hasn't changed. ;-)
Anka
He was a little more straight-forward, back in the day.
Alan
'not for attribution'
>Reid, I think you've got a pompous nerve to claim "enough already" after
>assembling a list of RCC'ers who post a lot (numbers included) here and
>suggesting that they are "Usenet nerds".
OK. I see the problem. Everybody but you on the list of those who
posted more than 200 messages here since the first of the year is a
Usenet nerd. Including me. But you, obviously, are not. I don't know
why I didn't see this initially.
Also, I was wrong, you were right. The number Google Groups tallied
were the number of posts for everybody but you. For you, they were the
number of responses to your posts from others. So you should never
have been included in this list, only the others.
Finally, I should never have posted this, now or the half dozen or so
times I've done this in the past. Though this is the first time anyone
has complained, as far as I remember. It's cruel for me, for anyone,
to even joke about being a Usenet nerd, even when I include myself as
a nerd. This is one of the worst things you could ever say about a
frequent Usenet poster. I can see how you or anybody could
characterize this as a "vicious attack." That's why you have every
right to complain, over and over, about this, since you're obviously
not someone who posts a lot...
<g> OK??? Probably not. But have the last word, if you like. I'll try
my best not to respond.
>Read: "I don't want to answer."
Obviously. It's easier just to repeat the lie.
>Well, I see Reid's modus operandi hasn't changed. ;-)
And neither has yours. But you're right. I've said here repeatedly,
that I give and I get, I share information and I ask for it. THIS IS
ONE OF THE CORE PURPOSES OF USENET. I've capitalized that because you
can't seem to get this basic concept. You find it incredulous that I
ask others for information. Now, now. Don't go wacko again and make
the ludicrous accusation that this is the only way I do research. I've
also said repeatedly that for research I read through all the
literature I can find in published articles and books, search the Web,
interview experts and laypeople on the phone and in person, do testing
when appropriate, use my own informal experiences, etc., etc. But
asking in an online discussion group if anyone has information is a
VERY common and perfectly acceptable way to gather information, even
though, with me, the information I gather this way typically makes up
only a very small percentage of the information I use with any given
project. And I share information, freely, far more than I ask for it,
here and in other online forums, and have always done this. As I've
said...
I recall a time or two that Erin W. bravely ventured forth and posted here
so that does in fact qualify her as a part timer. At least Alan has valid
posting handles, I canna say the same for his fecal brained antagonist whom
has admitted to the creation of at least 4(that he has been caught on)
Dave
"Why she would wanna hang out here is beyond me"
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From your facetious response, you obviously DON'T see the problem.
Everything you do and say is pure innocent fun. Keep it up.
>
> Also, I was wrong, you were right. The number Google Groups tallied
> were the number of posts for everybody but you. For you, they were the
> number of responses to your posts from others. So you should never
> have been included in this list, only the others.
I couldn't care less what my numbers were. You obviously thought your post
was insightful. Maybe I didn't. Did you ever consider that? Maybe I'm not
alone either.
>
> Finally, I should never have posted this, now or the half dozen or so
> times I've done this in the past. Though this is the first time anyone
> has complained, as far as I remember. It's cruel for me, for anyone,
> to even joke about being a Usenet nerd, even when I include myself as
> a nerd. This is one of the worst things you could ever say about a
> frequent Usenet poster. I can see how you or anybody could
> characterize this as a "vicious attack." That's why you have every
> right to complain, over and over, about this, since you're obviously
> not someone who posts a lot...
I can just picture you next listing for us the 20 most ugly-sounding people
based on their posts, and including yourself in the list, prefaced by your
little Alistaire Cook introductions. Then when the comments come in, you'll
be saying what a joke it was because you even included yourself in the list.
Ha. Ha. In my case, I suspect I have more of a problem with the messenger
than the message. Sure, leave me off any future lists you can conjure up
for whatever reason you choose.
Bruce
She's often the editor here. I'll write a post and then show it to her
and ask 'Send or don't?' She was pretty fumed at Reid mentioning our
kids and doubting that she existed, but lately she just shakes her head
and says "He's sick". She's not big on posting her views, but does
follow and read most threads. She also wants to say 'Thank You' to all
the generous RCC people who have donated to or swapped with the
orphanage. ;-)
Her favorite all-time coin is the Botanic Garden Dollar, in Proof. (I
think that's because we only own an Uncirculated one, I went for the
lower mintage first.)
Alan
'all women like roses'
>>Read: "I don't want to answer."
>
>Obviously. It's easier just to repeat the lie.
. . . than answer the question.
Actually some could care less about roses, my wife in particular. Her
flower is the Tulip. We have literally hundreds of them planted at
home(they are just starting to pop out of the ground:) And they can be
found on coins, their was one issued by the RCM which I ordered for her that
commemorated a botanic garden in Canada that was donated by the Queen of the
Netherlands.
Dave
AMPA - Australian Milk Producers Association.
Farmers Fighting For Farmers.
http://www.geocities.com/ampa_ltd/
See: Dairy info
http://the.standard.net.au/articles/2004/03/09/1078594332989.html?from=storyrhs
See: Retailer info
http://the.standard.net.au/articles/2004/03/09/1078594332984.html
Personally, I'll be surprised if State Quarters end without a sunflower
on one of them. ;-)
Alan
'has never seen a bouquet of Sunflowers'
Mike
"Alan & Erin Williams" <will...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:404E2ABD...@mindspring.com...
No foolin? My mom likes to spread peanut butter on a pine cone and roll
it in sunflower seeds. Birds like that. For my part...spring is coming
and the welfare state has come to an end. I'm taking down my suet
feeder and letting those woodpeckers find gainful employ.
Alan
'has coins that look like they were attacked by woodpeckers'
>DFloyd wrote:
>>
>> DFloyd <Dan....@HUHMindspring.com> wrote in
>> news:Xns94A6BF200DCFDDa...@207.217.125.203:
>>
>> > 31
>> >
>>
>> 32
>
>Auditioning for the job at the Naval Observatory, Dan?
>
>Alan
>'cesium timepiece'
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA i started to choke on my drink I was laughing so
hard..........Gotta stop drinking Iced Tea when reading RCC, now i
gotta go take a break and get some windex and towels for my monitor
and keyboard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gary
What? This bit:
> >You'd been told.
> >Repeatedly.
As you had been.
Or this bit:
> >Your original post was transparently flamebait AND YOU KNOW IT.
As it was.
> One more time: I was poking fun of myself
> too.
But *mainly*, *deliberately* and, it turns out, *incompetently*, you were attempting
to poke fun at Alan for his *extraodinarily* high total. (Which was just your bogus
data anyway.)
> I wasn't "viciously attacking" myself or anyone.
No, it wasn't vicious. I never said it was.
It was in the "flayed with a limp lettuce-leaf" category.
It was, however, illtimed, poorly researched, juvenile and unwelcome.
Kinda like most of your writing.
> I know how hard
> it is for someone like you to understand this. But I actually think
> you do understand this. Nobody is that dumb.
Oh fingers - keep still.
> You, and others like you,
> just use anything you can, no matter how ridiculous, to launch your
> junk attacks.
>
Do you know what I do that _is_ ridiculous, Reid?
I quote your posts back at you, with a critical analysis.
Talk about silly. Expecting someone to defend the indefensible.
Please note, also, that I launch my "junk attacks" IN RESPONSE TO your original
attacks.
*** Heat - kitchen - stay out.***
Jeff