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Bob

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Jan 23, 2010, 12:45:53 PM1/23/10
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On Jan 23, 11:15 am, HeeHawkeye <vacationlandb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was looking at Ebay auction # 170434539530 . The '0' portion of the
> date does not look right. Has anybody ever heard of a 1909 year minted
> cent error like this?

Obvious circulation damage. I think it is a 1916, but perhaps some
specialist can confirm that.

Jan

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Jan 23, 2010, 1:11:52 PM1/23/10
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It's an obvious punch. i can't believe it's up to $100.


"HeeHawkeye" <vacation...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Mr. Jaggers

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Jan 23, 2010, 1:44:26 PM1/23/10
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Jan wrote:
> It's an obvious punch. i can't believe it's up to $100.

The two bidders have feedbacks of 1 and 3 respectively. Several possible
explanations come to mind, none of which are pleasant to contemplate.

James


Mr. Jaggers

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Jan 23, 2010, 1:51:43 PM1/23/10
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Looks like intentional damage to me.

I don't see a VDB on the shoulder, so it has to be a 1916.

James


C. Norbanus

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Jan 23, 2010, 1:55:16 PM1/23/10
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Collector value, one cent.


Petronius

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Jan 23, 2010, 3:16:20 PM1/23/10
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"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
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Obvious shill bidding can be reported to eBay here:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/selling-coins.html


Mr. Jaggers

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Jan 23, 2010, 6:18:29 PM1/23/10
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Thanks for the suggestion, but after logging five hours total elapsed time
reporting over 100 illegitimate auctions to HQ and watching them consummate
in spite of it, I'll take a pass and let someone else enjoy the pursuit.

James the Disillusioned


Peter

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Jan 23, 2010, 6:40:11 PM1/23/10
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The seller's feedback, the character of the other items he sells, the
colorful language and text, the veritable grab bag of extras and the
lack of a picture of the reverse (despite his emphasizing that it is a
"wheat pennie") also seem like points against.

John Gentile

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Jan 23, 2010, 8:23:54 PM1/23/10
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So it's a damaged 1916 being listed as a 1906 with the "possibility of
an inverted 9?" Whoever "wins" this bid deserves it!


--
John Gentile
Newsletter editor
Rhode Island Apple Group

B.J.

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Jan 23, 2010, 9:12:18 PM1/23/10
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On Jan 23, 12:15 pm, HeeHawkeye <vacationlandb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was looking at Ebay auction # 170434539530 . The '0' portion of the
> date does not look right. Has anybody ever heard of a 1909 year minted
> cent error like this?

So, when I win this coin where do I send it to get it slabbed? The
Accugrade web site isn't operational any more, so what company should
I use instead?

Peter

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Jan 24, 2010, 1:48:16 PM1/24/10
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If I were to hazard a guess, you would be best served by any TPG that
will certify it as genuine. I would also be willing to bet anything
from a nickel on down that none of the top 3 (i.e., ANACS, PCGS or
NGC) will do that.

B.J.

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Jan 26, 2010, 9:04:07 PM1/26/10
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On Jan 23, 1:44 pm, "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote:

No one else bid. I need to raise my estimate of the intelligence of
eBay buyers.

I communicated with the seller and was told that he and "three other
dealers" believe it is a 1909 with a reversed 9. He also claimed a
dealer offered him $300.

The seller also has auctions for scrap gold -- if you look at the
closed auctions none actually have a picture of the scrap. The
purchase history is even more interesting. Most of the auctions are
private, and when I tried to look at the non-private auctions most of
them were no longer on eBay (even from auctions with January 2010
feedback). Also, a high percentage of his purchases with recent
feedback are from NARU sellers.

Mr. Jaggers

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Jan 26, 2010, 9:33:41 PM1/26/10
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As they say in the sunny land of France, "Quelle surprise!"

James


B.J.

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Jan 27, 2010, 5:06:05 AM1/27/10
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On Jan 26, 9:33 pm, "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote:

> B.J. wrote:
>
> As they say in the sunny land of France, "Quelle surprise!"

But wait, there's more. Apparently (again no surprise) the two
deadbeat bidders didn't pay so the item is relisted with a bargain BIN
of $21 million dollars (or best offer). What are the listing costs
for a $21 million dollar item?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170437998181

Bruce Remick

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Jan 27, 2010, 8:42:15 AM1/27/10
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"B.J." <bjher...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170437998181


Give the poor guy a break. He doesn't really want to sell it, but he
desperately needs the money to buy more coins. Sounds like a potential
Diane Sawyer tear jerker news story to me. Common people who are trying to
pull themselves up, etc. I'd buy the guy's Lincoln myself if I didn't need
the money for beer.


Mr. Jaggers

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Jan 27, 2010, 10:18:49 AM1/27/10
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I wonder if he'd take my 1913 Liberty nickel on even trade. It has a nasty
ding right on the numeral 3, but I just know it's a 1913, because I took it
to a show over in East Kumquat and six dealers called their bankers, trying
to arrange loans to buy it from me.

James the Coin Sharp


Petronius

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Jan 27, 2010, 11:09:54 AM1/27/10
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"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
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I'll trade you my ultra-rare, probably unique 1935 Double Eagle for it...


Peter

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Jan 27, 2010, 11:55:31 AM1/27/10
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On Jan 27, 11:09 am, "Petronius" <P...@ron.ius> wrote:
> "Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
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> > Bruce Remick wrote:
> >> "B.J." <bjherbi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> I'll trade you my ultra-rare, probably unique 1935 Double Eagle for it...- Hide quoted text -
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I'd be willing to trade the Ming vase I recovered on the back streets
of Baghdad after an air strike. It was at the center of the
explosion. Now the shards are encrusted with yellow cake, but its
unique ...

Bruce Remick

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Jan 27, 2010, 12:10:29 PM1/27/10
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Be aware though that with a trade, you don't get the 50 wheat pennies.


Mr. Jaggers

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Jan 27, 2010, 12:52:14 PM1/27/10
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HOW UNIQUE IS IT?


Mr. Jaggers

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Jan 27, 2010, 12:53:23 PM1/27/10
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It's no doubt the same one that the Three Stooges trashed when they were in
that mansion...

James the Victim of Soicumstance


Petronius

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Jan 27, 2010, 1:05:12 PM1/27/10
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"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
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Very Extremely Unique, practically one of a kind...


Mr. Jaggers

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Jan 27, 2010, 1:09:43 PM1/27/10
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I was expecting an answer in the form "It is so unique that..."

For example: "It is so unique that every time my insurance agent hears
about it he tries to sell me a rider for it."

James the [very] Amateur Comedian


som...@some.domain

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Jan 27, 2010, 4:47:29 PM1/27/10
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what was the offer from mr trump?

Mr. Jaggers

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Jan 27, 2010, 5:06:11 PM1/27/10
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Interesting you should ask. One of those six dealers was acting as Trump's
agent, but would not divulge how much the Donald was going to pay him.
Geez, I coulda made the front page of Coin World, but alas!

BTW, long time no see, glad you're back, my friend!

James the Unfortunate One


Bruce Remick

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Jan 27, 2010, 7:30:36 PM1/27/10
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"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
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The term "unique" on eBay usually means "the only one I've ever seen (on
eBay)".


som...@some.domain

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Jan 27, 2010, 9:44:36 PM1/27/10
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thanks, i always read your missives with amazement. you are genuinely funny,
rare today. most people are accidently, stupidly ironic funny.
-someone or another.
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