Removing paint from a silver eagle
Dominus the Wolf
Has anyone ever tried to remove the paint from a silver eagle?
I purchased one for a good price < $5 and now I want to experiment with
removing the paint and try not to discolor the coin.
Its an enamel paint only on the obverse.
De-natured alcohol was my first attempt, it had no effect on the paint or
the coin.
Jerry Dennis
oranges, doesn't work, paint strippers that are on the market. Fill a jar with
the stuff, drop the coin in, cover the jar, let it sit for a few months, take
the coin out, rinse with distilled water, and see what happens.
Chances are no matter what chemical you try, if it's strong enough to soften
and remove the enamel from a painted silver eagle, it'll probably damage the
coin.
Jerry
Dominus the Wolf
Those are my thoughts. I think my next try will be with plain old paint
thinner since I already have that on hand.
Suggestions appreciated!
"Jerry Dennis" <jden...@aol.comshaw> wrote in message
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Robert Schott
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Hi Dominus,
I remember during my school time doing some chemical
experiments (who did not?). One time I bought a small
bottle of Toluene, not covered with a polyethylene
platic cap but with a cork (!) becaues it dissolved
nearly all plastic materials.
Toluene is a clear liquid aromatic hydrocarbon with a
distinctive smell. Also called methylbenzene or
phenylmethane. But its kind of toxic and inflammable,
so do your experminents outside.
I also remember brake liquid even dissolving the paint
on the car down to the pure metal, bad thing when
repairing the brake ...
From toluene I know that its harmless to any metal,
but brake liquid? I'm not sure of it. Do some
experiments with actual coins or some silver things of
low value.
Hope that helps.
SchRotti
K6AZ
Acetone should take the paint right off. No telling though if the paint
damaged the surface.
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Stu MacDonald
<dominus...@yourhouse.com>wrote:
>
My saying is: "When all else fails try WD-40."
Stu MacDonald
"A person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the man doing it."
Chinese...
Fonty
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Fonty
we used lacquer thinner which is mostly acetone. I would NOT use an orange
paint stripper. The chemical reation with the paint WILL cause damage to
the coin. WD-40 is corrosive. Just ask anyone that collects guns. Your
best bet is to soak the coin in acetone until the paint is gone.
Fonty
"Dominus the Wolf" <dominus...@yourhouse.com> wrote in message
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Stujoe
MS65GU...@hotmail.com says...
> My saying is: "When all else fails try WD-40."
And if that doesn't work, put some duct tape on it. It won't take the
paint off but at least you won't be able to see it any more. ;)
--
Stujoe
Fonty
But then you would have to deal with that sticky crap. Not a good trade.
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The Silver Jar...
Sylvester.
Phil DeMayo
>Heh Heh Heh, Wait a minute! That stuff will pull the chrome off a bumper.
>But then you would have to deal with that sticky crap. Not a good trade.
Well there you go....that's one thing the orange, citrus based cleaners will
remove. ;-)
++++++++++
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>... WD-40 is corrosive. Just ask anyone that collects guns.
You sure of that, Fonty?
The makers swear black-and-blue it isn't. (Naturally)
http://www.wd40.com/Brands/wd40_faqs.html
WD-40 certainly removes oily deposits which may otherwise prevent corrosion, but is
it actually corrosive itself?
The propellant is CO2 (non-corrosive)
It displaces water, which is corrosive.
I really think that the contention that WD is corrosive is misplaced - it just
removes the stuff that otherwise prevents corrosion.
...but corrosive in itself? I think not.
More?
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Jeff R.
Bob Peterson
> I know from my gun collecting friends that WD-40 is corrosive!
Its not corrosive. The reason gun collectors do not like WD40 is that it
contains a lot of wax which will gum up things as it accumulates in the
action of a firearm.
Fonty
my local gunsmith to never use WD-40 on your guns. There are much better
products for guns. Besides the original idea here was paint removal. WD40
might get it off with a little rubbing but rubbing is something you dont
want to do with coins either.
"Mark" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 05:58:21 -0500, "Bob Peterson"
<peter...@insightbb.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Fonty" <fon...@amaonline.com> wrote in message
> >news:-MWdnfX_I_4...@amaonline.com...
> >> I know from my gun collecting friends that WD-40 is corrosive!
> >
> >Its not corrosive. The reason gun collectors do not like WD40 is that it
> >contains a lot of wax which will gum up things as it accumulates in the
> >action of a firearm.
>
> Are you talking about a "collector" who doesn't use his collection? If
so,
> this may be true.
>
> It is great to use in and on the barrel to keep the powder residue
somewhat
> "liquid" and makes correct cleaning sooo much easier while keeping a
> protective film over the exposed metal to prevent any type of corrosion or
> rust from starting.
>
> I wouldn't submerge the gun in it, but certainly get liberal in the heavy
> powder areas.
Fonty
gun collector friends who say don't use it. They say over the long haul it
is corrosive. But we are trying to remove paint from a coin. Gotta be
something better.news:42ntc0lmd0sk4n9mi...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:50:35 -0500, "Fonty" <fon...@amaonline.com> wrote:
>
> >I like the acetone suggestion. I used to be in the refinishing business
and
> >we used lacquer thinner which is mostly acetone. I would NOT use an
orange
> >paint stripper. The chemical reation with the paint WILL cause damage to
> >the coin. WD-40 is corrosive. Just ask anyone that collects guns.
>
film
> on my guns until I can tear them down and clean them properly. I can,
> emphatically, state that it does not corrode anything. I've left WD-40 on
for
> a couple of days before getting around to cleaning, too.
>
> It's a very popular and well accepted protectant for metals that are
> susceptible to corrosion.
Richard L. Hall
cotton cloth, soak it with turpentine, lay the coin on it paint side down
and then leave it in an air tight container for a few days. Make sure the
swatch remains moist with the turpentine. Hopefully, after a couple of days
you can just peel the paint off.
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Bob Peterson
flame war, start talking about using WD40 to lubricate a wad gun. Its a
terrible choice as a lubricant due to its tendency to build up and attract
dust. There are far better choices as both lubricants and cleaners. Having
said that, its a far better choice than using nothing.
"Mark" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 05:58:21 -0500, "Bob Peterson"
<peter...@insightbb.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Fonty" <fon...@amaonline.com> wrote in message
> >news:-MWdnfX_I_4...@amaonline.com...
> >> I know from my gun collecting friends that WD-40 is corrosive!
> >
> >Its not corrosive. The reason gun collectors do not like WD40 is that it
> >contains a lot of wax which will gum up things as it accumulates in the
> >action of a firearm.
>
> Are you talking about a "collector" who doesn't use his collection? If
so,
> this may be true.
>
> It is great to use in and on the barrel to keep the powder residue
somewhat
> "liquid" and makes correct cleaning sooo much easier while keeping a
> protective film over the exposed metal to prevent any type of corrosion or
> rust from starting.
>
> I wouldn't submerge the gun in it, but certainly get liberal in the heavy
> powder areas.
>
> >
> >>
bri
bluing. Once the bluing is gone then is when the metal corrodes.
Acetone or Ketone should remove paint from a coin, but it'll look messed up.
Instead of having a coin covered with paint you'll have a coin that looked
like it was covered with paint at one time.
What year and mint mark is it? Some of those are very valuble due to rarity.
Dominus the Wolf
Turpentine did not work at all. 24 hours the paint looks like new. The
coin has tarnished a bit not dark, but list the luster.
Its been rinsed and is now in acetone. I'll give it 24 hours and see how it
looks.
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Jerry Dennis
Jerry
The "Wolfman" provides an update:
Dominus the Wolf
It only took a couple of hours. The acetone removed all the paint. The
surface is a bit more toned now except where the paint was which is now
bright and shinny.
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Robert Schott
@nwrdny03.gnilink.net>, dominus...@yourhouse.com
says...
>
> It only took a couple of hours. The acetone removed all the paint. The
> surface is a bit more toned now except where the paint was which is now
> bright and shinny.
Congratulations !
There are two possible reasons:
- Either the paint reacted with the patina already
existing on the coin and thus removed it
- Or the paint blocked the reaction of the environment
with the coins surface on the part the paint covered
the coin. This reason seems more realistic to me.
Would be interesting, if the paint removed an existing
patina...
Regards, SchRotti
Fonty
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