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Anka

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Nov 9, 2009, 10:28:20 PM11/9/09
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On Nov 9, 10:18�pm, Reid Goldsborough <reidgolduse...@yahoo.com>
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> Here's yet another Owl. Can't get enough. This one is also atypical, and
> interesting, and for several reasons, one being the price. With
> apologies in advance for my crassness (what, talk about money when
> talking about coins, how uncivilized), anybody want to hazard a guess as
> to what, and why? Anybody who guesses the correct figure wins the coin.http://www.collectingbanter.com/showthread.php?t=273201
>
> http://rg.ancients.info/misc/Owl8.jpg
>
> --
>
> Consumer:http://rg.ancients.info/guide
> Connoisseur:http://rg.ancients.info/glom
> Counterfeit:http://rg.ancients.info/bogos

Deja vu all over again?

http://www.collectingbanter.com/showthread.php?t=273201

~Anka


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Alan Marshall

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Nov 10, 2009, 5:39:34 AM11/10/09
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its not a brilliant one, and 3 cuts , hmm, $200?


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> Anka wrote:
>
>> Deja vu all over again?
>>
>> http://www.collectingbanter.com/showthread.php?t=273201
>

> I forgot I talked about it earlier, though I didn't mention the price. You
> didn't guess the price. I find pricing, deals, good buys, bad buys,
> cherrypicking, volume vs. boutique dealers and the risks and rewards of
> each, and so on a really interesting aspect of numismatics. Others don't,
> just focusing on the coins, paying whatever it takes to get what they
> want. To me a coin I got a good deal on is nicer to look at than one I
> spent too much on.

Alan Marshall

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Nov 10, 2009, 5:41:37 AM11/10/09
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The more I look at it, the better it gets, so ive probably way undervalued
it at 200.


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Nov 10, 2009, 7:53:06 AM11/10/09
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Athena's face looks like it was glued on from a different coin ?
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note.boy

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Nov 10, 2009, 2:38:10 PM11/10/09
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A contemporary counterfeit, $150. Billy

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> Here's yet another Owl. Can't get enough. This one is also atypical, and
> interesting, and for several reasons, one being the price. With apologies
> in advance for my crassness (what, talk about money when talking about
> coins, how uncivilized), anybody want to hazard a guess as to what, and
> why? Anybody who guesses the correct figure wins the coin.
>

> http://rg.ancients.info/misc/Owl8.jpg

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Alan Marshall

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Nov 10, 2009, 6:10:52 PM11/10/09
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While im at it, have a look at my owls
(guess what I paid also)

Tet -
http://www.imagebucket.net/bucket/is.php?i=5953&img=AthenaOwl2.jpg

Baby owl -
http://www.imagebucket.net/bucket/is.php?i=5954&img=AthenaHalfOwl.j.jpg


Hopefully Imagebucket works

Alan Marshall..


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> Alan Marshall wrote:
>> The more I look at it, the better it gets, so ive probably way
>> undervalued
>

> Thank you. <g> The full crest is what most distinguishes it, though like
> with most mass Classical Owls that have all of Athena's helmet crest on
> the flan, the opposite side of the design is somewhat off the flan. I'd
> grade the coin VF. And the three test cuts are actually fairly aesthetic,
> for test cuts anyway, equally distant from one another and with one
> splitting the owl's head in half, as a large percentage of Owl test cuts
> strangely do.
>
> In answer to another poster, no, the face wasn't glued on. At least I
> didn't glue it on. <g> And no indication from the coin in hand that this
> happened either.

part...@yahoo.com

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Nov 10, 2009, 6:41:06 PM11/10/09
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On Nov 9, 10:18 pm, Reid Goldsborough <reidgolduse...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Here's yet another Owl. Can't get enough. This one is also atypical, and
> interesting, and for several reasons, one being the price. With
> apologies in advance for my crassness (what, talk about money when
> talking about coins, how uncivilized), anybody want to hazard a guess as
> to what, and why? Anybody who guesses the correct figure wins the coin.
>
> http://rg.ancients.info/misc/Owl8.jpg

The symmetry of the three reverse test cuts is interesting, but that
wasn't originally in the coin as struck, and I don't like the way one
cut damages the owl's head (even if that is a common occurrence on
Owls.) The off-center direction of the obverse is also unfortunate-
the fact that Athena is missing the tip of her nose bothers me much
more than if the end of the helmet crest were missing. I would thus
discount the price, and I will say it sold for $175. (This is kind of
low, so I probably shouldn't become a professional coin dealer.)
Otherwise, the style looks legit, and I don't see what other
"interesting" things there might be about this Owl. I look forward to
the answer. (Or, I could click the link Anka provided, but I will
wait for a bit.)

-Robert A. DeRose, Jr.

Nick Knight

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Nov 10, 2009, 8:33:31 PM11/10/09
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In <7f4a62b1-94a9-4d53...@g23g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>, on
11/10/2009
at 03:41 PM, part...@yahoo.com said:

>more than if the end of the helmet crest were missing. I would thus
>discount the price, and I will say it sold for $175. (This is kind of low,
>so I probably shouldn't become a professional coin dealer.)

As an extremely casual collector of ancients, I find the test cuts extremely
annoying. If I were going to buy an example of this type, I wouldn't want
this one. Perhaps if I was collecting varieties and bogos, fine. But I
don't find it interesting. Since price is going to be a surprise, I'm going
to guess $100 imagining the seller thought it was as impaired as I do :)

Nick

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Reid Goldsborough

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Nov 10, 2009, 9:25:39 PM11/10/09
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Alan Marshall wrote:

> Tet -
> http://www.imagebucket.net/bucket/is.php?i=5953&img=AthenaOwl2.jpg

This is a coin that would definitely benefit from a cleaning. The thick
black toning obscures the coin's details. It looks like it could be a
nice piece under that. One area of uncertainty though is what may be a
problem at Athena's cheek, which the thick toning mostly hides. I bet
you got a deal on this because of the thick toning. I won't guess what
you paid, but after a proper cleaning I'd say it would sell on VCoins or
VAuctions for $400, more if the cheek isn't really a problem area.

note.boy

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Nov 11, 2009, 2:21:48 PM11/11/09
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I thought that I could see a base metal core in the test cuts. Billy


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> note.boy wrote:
>> A contemporary counterfeit, $150. Billy
>

> Nope. It's full-weight and the right diameter and thickness -- solid
> silver. There are a lot of contemporary counterfeits of these, so that's a
> a credible guess, but this isn't one of them.

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Ian

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Nov 13, 2009, 5:38:31 AM11/13/09
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Reid Goldsborough wrote:
> Here's yet another Owl. Can't get enough. This one is also atypical, and
> interesting, and for several reasons, one being the price. With
> apologies in advance for my crassness (what, talk about money when
> talking about coins, how uncivilized), anybody want to hazard a guess as
> to what, and why? Anybody who guesses the correct figure wins the coin.
>
> http://rg.ancients.info/misc/Owl8.jpg
>
285 dollars

Ian

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Ian

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Nov 14, 2009, 3:23:57 PM11/14/09
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Reid Goldsborough wrote:
> Ian wrote:
>
>>> http://rg.ancients.info/misc/Owl8.jpg
>>>
>> 285 dollars
>
> That was the closest yet to the list price of $270.
>

When did you buy it?

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Ian

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Nov 15, 2009, 3:23:38 AM11/15/09
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Reid Goldsborough wrote:
> Ian wrote:
>
>> When did you buy it?
>
> May 30, 2009.
>
Ah..bummer! They haven't gone up that much since then, so I can't claim
for the effects of price inflation :)

That was a very good deal you got.

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