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MKW

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Aug 13, 2009, 12:59:08 AM8/13/09
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I am in need of brand new condition, preferably sealed US Mint silver
proof sets from 1992-2001. Including all the premier sets. Where
could I look for these. I already tried Ebay.

Thanks!

Mr. Jaggers

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Aug 13, 2009, 1:09:32 AM8/13/09
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The "bigbox" dealers who advertise in the front of Coin World often have
such. In the current issue Paul Sims gives prices for 1992 through 1998.
If you visited their websites, I'd not be at all surprised that you'd find
the whole range for sale and could even get a discount for buying the whole
batch at one time.

James


Frank Galikanokus

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Aug 13, 2009, 12:17:39 PM8/13/09
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"sealed US Mint silver proof sets"?

There are no such things.

JAM

MKW

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Aug 13, 2009, 9:14:52 PM8/13/09
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Yes, sealed in the brown shipping boxes...or white USPS boxes they
used. The boxes fit the proof set perfect. Back in the good days
before they used this horrible outsourced shipper who crams a wad of
paper next to the proof set in the shipping box.

I will also take sets that are open, but with all packaging new and
crips with any included piece of paper intact. I am replacing all my
sets that were kept in a safe. Somehow mold grew on them and stained
some papers and boxes...smells horrible. Never close stuff up in
safes!!

On Aug 13, 12:17 pm, Frank Galikanokus <FrankGalikano...@nospam.net>
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Frank Galikanokus

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Aug 14, 2009, 10:33:26 AM8/14/09
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MKW wrote:
>
> Yes, sealed in the brown shipping boxes...or white USPS boxes they
> used. The boxes fit the proof set perfect. Back in the good days
> before they used this horrible outsourced shipper who crams a wad of
> paper next to the proof set in the shipping box.
>
> I will also take sets that are open, but with all packaging new and
> crips with any included piece of paper intact. I am replacing all my
> sets that were kept in a safe. Somehow mold grew on them and stained
> some papers and boxes...smells horrible. Never close stuff up in
> safes!!
>


Was it a fire safe? Fire safes hold moisture in their walls and are very
bad for coins.

All metal safes and cabinets work well. You should always use a
desiccant inside any cabinet used for storing coins.

http://www.dehumidify.com/

JAM

MKW

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Aug 14, 2009, 11:38:32 AM8/14/09
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Yeah...a sentry fire safe. I have the coins in there now but sealed
in PVC free ziplock bags. By law all ziplock food bags are PVC free.


On Aug 14, 10:33 am, Frank Galikanokus <FrankGalikano...@nospam.net>
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Dave Allured

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Aug 14, 2009, 1:13:39 PM8/14/09
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You should still use a dessicant, and refresh it periodically. Ziploc
bags are *not* perfect moisture barriers over long time periods.

Also, some ziploc bags have an oily surface treatment when new, that can
transfer onto raw coin surfaces. This includes the real grocery store
Ziploc brand. Saran wrap and other plastic wraps have the same
problem. So please use ziploc type bags only on enclosed coins, not raw
coins.

I can't properly speak about the small ziploc baggies that are made
specifically for coin storage, except that they are definitely not long
term moisture barriers.

Lastly, beware of any cardboard packaging or papers that you may want to
include with coins in sealed storage. IMO most cardboards and papers
will slowly leach acid vapor over time, which will cause toning. This
includes US Mint outer packaging! I believe others have more info about
this.

--Dave

mazorj

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Aug 14, 2009, 1:18:16 PM8/14/09
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"MKW" <mwelb...@aol.com> wrote in message
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<
< Yeah...a sentry fire safe. I have the coins in there now but sealed
< in PVC free ziplock bags. By law all ziplock food bags are PVC free.

A zip-lock baggie is not hermetically sealed. It may be 99.9% effective at
keeping out the elements, but I wouldn't rely on just that to protect coins
if they are kept long-term in a safe or other container that traps and
builds up moisture. You also have to be careful about what else you put in
there because you could be creating a sealed hothouse of corrosive vapors
from the other source.

At the least, follow the advice to use silica gel. Every couple of months
air out the safe and renew the silica gel by putting it in a warm, dry place
such as an oven on its lowest setting to bake out the moisture it has
trapped. I'd also zip open and air out the bags once or twice a year.

FWIW, I just called the S.C. Johnson Co., makers of the Ziploc brand of
bags. They're made from polyethylene plastic resin, with no PVC. The
consumer rep didn't know if that was by regulatory requirement, but he
assured me that their bags are PVC-free.

Mr. Jaggers

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Aug 14, 2009, 2:54:31 PM8/14/09
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mazorj wrote:
> "MKW" <mwelb...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:17058483-108a-4d8b...@n11g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> <
> < Yeah...a sentry fire safe. I have the coins in there now but sealed
> < in PVC free ziplock bags. By law all ziplock food bags are PVC
> free.
> A zip-lock baggie is not hermetically sealed. It may be 99.9%
> effective at keeping out the elements, but I wouldn't rely on just
> that to protect coins if they are kept long-term in a safe or other
> container that traps and builds up moisture. You also have to be
> careful about what else you put in there because you could be
> creating a sealed hothouse of corrosive vapors from the other source.
>
> At the least, follow the advice to use silica gel. Every couple of
> months air out the safe and renew the silica gel by putting it in a
> warm, dry place such as an oven on its lowest setting to bake out the
> moisture it has trapped. I'd also zip open and air out the bags once
> or twice a year.
> FWIW, I just called the S.C. Johnson Co., makers of the Ziploc brand
> of bags. They're made from polyethylene plastic resin, with no PVC. The
> consumer rep didn't know if that was by regulatory requirement,
> but he assured me that their bags are PVC-free.

For the record, it's not the PVC (polyvinyl chlroride) that is the problem,
but rather the softeners, or plasticizers, in it that can migrate to the
surface and contaminate the whatever. PVC itself is more or less inert, but
can be very stiff without those plasticizers.

James the Polymer


mazorj

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Aug 14, 2009, 4:45:55 PM8/14/09
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"Mr. Jaggers" <lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com> wrote in message
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Hmmm. Food baggies are as pliable as a Universalist theologian, so only The
Shadow knows what evil chemicals lurk on and under their surfaces,
regardless of how safe their main ingredient may be.

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