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Ken Barr

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Sep 30, 2010, 4:52:58 PM9/30/10
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FA: Interesting swastika good luck token on eBay ...

I have an interesting pre-WWII swastika good luck token closing
on eBay tonight:

http://cgi.ebay.com/280566179996

The reverse references the "Don't Worry Club", which
was used on numerous swastika good luck tokens in the
late 1800's and early 1900's. Most of these, however,
used a "stock" reverse with standard text and a horizontal
swastika.

The piece listed above, on the other hand, uses a custom
designed reverse, with the initials of the merchant within
the arms of the swastika, and has the device tilted at
an angle. It's the first of this type I've seen in over
thirty years of dealing in exonumia ... I started it out
quite inexpensively, and it has several bids already, but
I suspect it might sell for "Moon Money" if the right
people find it!

A few other tokens and medals are also listed ... details at:

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=kenbarrnumis

Thanks!

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P. O. Box 32541             website:  http://www.kenbarr.com
San Jose, CA  95152     Coins, currency, exonumia, souvenir cards, etc.
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Michael G. Koerner

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Sep 30, 2010, 10:16:45 PM9/30/10
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On 2010.09.30 15:52:58, Ken Barr wrote:
> FA: Interesting swastika good luck token on eBay ...
>
> I have an interesting pre-WWII swastika good luck token closing
> on eBay tonight:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/280566179996
>
> The reverse references the "Don't Worry Club", which
> was used on numerous swastika good luck tokens in the
> late 1800's and early 1900's. Most of these, however,
> used a "stock" reverse with standard text and a horizontal
> swastika.
>
> The piece listed above, on the other hand, uses a custom
> designed reverse, with the initials of the merchant within
> the arms of the swastika, and has the device tilted at
> an angle. It's the first of this type I've seen in over
> thirty years of dealing in exonumia ... I started it out
> quite inexpensively, and it has several bids already, but
> I suspect it might sell for "Moon Money" if the right
> people find it!
>
> A few other tokens and medals are also listed ... details at:
>
> http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=kenbarrnumis
>
> Thanks!

Sad, indeed, that the 20th century had to be so catastrophic to such an
interesting geometric shape - and one that still is considered to be a symbol
of good luck in many Asian cultures. And good luck on your auction!

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Michael G. Koerner May they | | | | | | rise again!
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Jud

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Sep 30, 2010, 10:46:46 PM9/30/10
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On Sep 30, 4:52 pm, Ken Barr <k...@kenbarr.com> wrote:
> FA: Interesting swastika good luck token on eBay ...
>
> I have an interesting pre-WWII swastika good luck token closing
> on eBay tonight:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/280566179996
>
> The reverse references the "Don't Worry Club", which
> was used on numerous swastika good luck tokens in the
> late 1800's and early 1900's.  Most of these, however,
> used a "stock" reverse with standard text and a horizontal
> swastika.
>
> The piece listed above, on the other hand, uses a custom
> designed reverse, with the initials of the merchant within
> the arms of the swastika, and has the device tilted at
> an angle.  It's the first of this type I've seen in over
> thirty years of dealing in exonumia ...  I started it out
> quite inexpensively, and it has several bids already, but
> I suspect it might sell for "Moon Money" if the right
> people find it!
>

Lotsa 'Red Star' bidders too! Guess they know something about this
token that I don't. But then again, what I don't know could fill
volumes.

Ken Barr

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Oct 1, 2010, 12:05:41 PM10/1/10
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In article
<51b83c64-1fc6-493a...@a19g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
Jud <numis...@aol.com> wrote:

Ended up at $58.65 with thirteen bids ... less than I'd hoped,
but more than I feared. Any occupation-related token or medal
often brings out numerous non-numismatic bidders ...

As expected, the winning bidder has a dental-related userid
("odonto"-something), and is from Germany.

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Ken Barr Numismatics        email:  k...@kenbarr.com
P. O. Box 32541             website:  http://www.kenbarr.com
San Jose, CA  95152     Coins, currency, exonumia, souvenir cards, etc.

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som...@some.domain

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Oct 1, 2010, 3:17:22 PM10/1/10
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swastica and good luck? isn't that one 'o them oxymoron type things?
sorry i couldn't play but glad you got it sold.

Zapp Brannigan

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Oct 1, 2010, 4:46:47 PM10/1/10
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"Ken Barr" <k...@kenbarr.com> wrote in message
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"less than I'd hoped, but more than I feared."?!?!?!
WTF is that supposed to mean?


celtex

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Oct 1, 2010, 5:33:44 PM10/1/10
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"Zapp Brannigan" <ju...@one.more> wrote in message
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He didn't get his upper number but it was better than the lower number he
feared he could get. So somewhere in between yippee! and ahh-sh|t! Really
pretty simple statement.

Ken Barr

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Oct 2, 2010, 11:34:18 AM10/2/10
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In article <%sqpo.257153$rT.4...@en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com>,
som...@some.domain (som...@some.domain) wrote:

> In article <ken-0AB97E.0...@nntp.aioe.org>, Ken Barr
> <k...@kenbarr.com> wrote:
> >In article
> ><51b83c64-1fc6-493a...@a19g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
> > Jud <numis...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sep 30, 4:52 pm, Ken Barr <k...@kenbarr.com> wrote:
> >> > FA: Interesting swastika good luck token on eBay ...
> >> >
> >> > I have an interesting pre-WWII swastika good luck token closing
> >> > on eBay tonight:
> >> >
> >> > http://cgi.ebay.com/280566179996
> >> >
> >> > The reverse references the "Don't Worry Club", which
> >> > was used on numerous swastika good luck tokens in the
> >> > late 1800's and early 1900's.  Most of these, however,
> >> > used a "stock" reverse with standard text and a horizontal
> >> > swastika.

[snip]


> >
> swastica and good luck? isn't that one 'o them oxymoron type things?
> sorry i couldn't play but glad you got it sold.

The swastika was a common good luck symbol within many
cultures until it was co-opted by the German Nazi Party
in 1920. The U. S. Army's 45th Division even used it on
their shoulder patches during World War I ...

Ken Barr

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Oct 2, 2010, 11:42:14 AM10/2/10
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In article <CMrpo.20493$Ki....@newsfe17.iad>,
"Zapp Brannigan" <ju...@one.more> wrote:

> "Ken Barr" <k...@kenbarr.com> wrote in message
> news:ken-0AB97E.0...@nntp.aioe.org...
> > In article
> > <51b83c64-1fc6-493a...@a19g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
> > Jud <numis...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sep 30, 4:52 pm, Ken Barr <k...@kenbarr.com> wrote:
> >> > FA: Interesting swastika good luck token on eBay ...
> >> >
> >> > I have an interesting pre-WWII swastika good luck token closing
> >> > on eBay tonight:
> >> >
> >> > http://cgi.ebay.com/280566179996
> >> >
> >> > The reverse references the "Don't Worry Club", which
> >> > was used on numerous swastika good luck tokens in the
> >> > late 1800's and early 1900's. Most of these, however,
> >> > used a "stock" reverse with standard text and a horizontal
> >> > swastika.

[snip]


> > Ended up at $58.65 with thirteen bids ... less than I'd hoped,
> > but more than I feared. Any occupation-related token or medal
> > often brings out numerous non-numismatic bidders ...
>
> "less than I'd hoped, but more than I feared."?!?!?!
> WTF is that supposed to mean?

I'd hoped it would sell for $100. I feared that it would
only sell for $25. It actually sold for $58.65. "Less than


I'd hoped, but more than I feared".

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Peter

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Oct 2, 2010, 12:14:47 PM10/2/10
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On Oct 2, 11:42 am, Ken Barr <k...@kenbarr.com> wrote:
> In article <CMrpo.20493$Ki.5...@newsfe17.iad>,

>  "Zapp Brannigan" <j...@one.more> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Ken Barr" <k...@kenbarr.com> wrote in message
> >news:ken-0AB97E.0...@nntp.aioe.org...
> > > In article
> > > <51b83c64-1fc6-493a-b306-647e41157...@a19g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,

> > > Jud <numismat...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > >> On Sep 30, 4:52 pm, Ken Barr <k...@kenbarr.com> wrote:
> > >> > FA: Interesting swastika good luck token on eBay ...
>
> > >> > I have an interesting pre-WWII swastika good luck token closing
> > >> > on eBay tonight:
>
> > >> >http://cgi.ebay.com/280566179996
>
> > >> > The reverse references the "Don't Worry Club", which
> > >> > was used on numerous swastika good luck tokens in the
> > >> > late 1800's and early 1900's. Most of these, however,
> > >> > used a "stock" reverse with standard text and a horizontal
> > >> > swastika.
> [snip]
> > > Ended up at $58.65 with thirteen bids ... less than I'd hoped,
> > > but more than I feared.  Any occupation-related token or medal
> > > often brings out numerous non-numismatic bidders ...
>
> > "less than I'd hoped, but more than I feared."?!?!?!
> > WTF is that supposed to mean?
>
> I'd hoped it would sell for $100.  I feared that it would
> only sell for $25.  It actually sold for $58.65.  "Less than
> I'd hoped, but more than I feared".
>
> --
> Ken Barr Numismatics        email:  k...@kenbarr.com
> P. O. Box 32541             website:  http://www.kenbarr.com
> San Jose, CA  95152     Coins, currency, exonumia, souvenir cards, etc.
> 408-272-3247          NEXT SHOW:  Contra Costa (Concord), 10/09 only, no table- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The geometric mean of 25 and 100 is 50.

Zapp Brannigan

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Oct 2, 2010, 1:50:51 PM10/2/10
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"Ken Barr" <k...@kenbarr.com> wrote in message
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> In article <%sqpo.257153$rT.4...@en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com>,
> som...@some.domain (som...@some.domain) wrote:
>
>> In article <ken-0AB97E.0...@nntp.aioe.org>, Ken Barr
>> <k...@kenbarr.com> wrote:
>> >In article
>> ><51b83c64-1fc6-493a...@a19g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
>> > Jud <numis...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sep 30, 4:52 pm, Ken Barr <k...@kenbarr.com> wrote:
>> >> > FA: Interesting swastika good luck token on eBay ...
>> >> >
>> >> > I have an interesting pre-WWII swastika good luck token closing
>> >> > on eBay tonight:
>> >> >
>> >> > http://cgi.ebay.com/280566179996
>> >> >
>> >> > The reverse references the "Don't Worry Club", which
>> >> > was used on numerous swastika good luck tokens in the
>> >> > late 1800's and early 1900's. Most of these, however,
>> >> > used a "stock" reverse with standard text and a horizontal
>> >> > swastika.
> [snip]
>> >
>> swastica and good luck? isn't that one 'o them oxymoron type things?
>> sorry i couldn't play but glad you got it sold.
>
> The swastika was a common good luck symbol within many
> cultures until it was co-opted by the German Nazi Party
> in 1920. The U. S. Army's 45th Division even used it on
> their shoulder patches during World War I ...
>

People have a perverse fascination with Nazi-era items.
Withness sales of low denomination German coins with a swastika - they always
sell.
I believe it is illegal to collect Nazi memoribilia in Germany.


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