Re: Byza just for you little education
King Seanie, Ruler of the Griks
hate-monger and usenet troll "gogu" as off topic posts in a greek
newsgroup and *cross-posted* in a deliberate trolling attack by gogu on
several other newsgroups
Gogu's twisted aim has always been to attract attention and incite
flames
Since gogu spends much of his time in here pretending that he actually
owns the coins he has posted photos of, we have decided to return all
his racist, anti-Turkish, Anti-Jewish filth to THIS his favoured
newsgroup rec.collecting.coins
gogu wrote:
> "It is amazing how the FYROM-ian slav eyes are seeing only what they want to
> see!"
> You can may try as long as you want, fact is that your propaganda is
> childish (you can't even produce a credible propaganda) so it can't convince
> anyone :-)
> Be a man (well...) and face it: you are nothing but West Bulgarians, the
> whole world knows that except you :-)
>
> --
>
> E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure
> in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi
> puttane! F.d.A
>
> Coins, travels and more: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/golanule/my_photos
> http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html
>
> ? "pavel" <pavelma...@yahoo.com> ?????? ??? ??????
> news:1137824507.5...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> gogu wrote:
> > "pavel" <pavelma...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >Let we see who is the idiot!
> > >The following is from your link
> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Macedonian_language
> >
> > >Classification
> > >Due to the fragmentary attestation widely diverging interpretations are
> > >possible. The suggested historical interpretations of Macedonian
> > >include (Mallory and Adams (1997), p. 361):
> > >1) a Greek dialect mixed with Illyrian languages or the Thracian
> > >language, suggested by Kretschmer (1896) and E. Schwyzer (1959)
> > >2) a Greek dialect with a non-Indo-European substratal influence,
> > >suggested by M .Sakellariou (1983)
> > >3) an Illyrian dialect mixed with Greek (suggested by K. O. Müller
> > >(1825) and by G. Bonfante 1987)
> > >4) an independent Indo-European language close to Greek, Thracian and
> > >Phrygian languages, suggested by I. I. Russu (1938) and A. Meillet
> > >(1965)
> >
> >
> > GOOD!
> > But if you observe better you'll see that in *ALL* four cases it has to do
> > with Greek!
> > In 2 cases it is considered Greek, in the other 2 it is considered as
> > having
> > Greek in its base!
> > Nothing to do with slavs!
> > And with so many probabilities fortifying the Greekness of the Macedonian
> > language, I'd say that the odds are very close to 100% to be a ... Greek
> > language!
> > And this is enough for us Greeks.
> > Now if you are trying to distort things that's fine with us, many people
> > have tried it but their mumbo jumbo never convinced serious scholars!
>
> It is amazing how the Greek eyes are seeing only what they want to see!
> The base, Gogu and Istor, the base is important!
> Let we consider the four possible hypothesises. In the first and the
> second one
> the base is a Greek diialect. In the third the base is Illyrian. If we
> accept the
> third hypothesis, the ancient Macedonia was sounding as an Albanian
> Gheg.
> In nowadays Albanian you can fing many Greek words, but you cannot
> claim that it is Greek, can you? In the four hypothesis again the base
> was
> different from Greek, in spite that it is possible that it is from
> group
> of languages close to Greek, Thracian ot Phrygian. If we accept that
> hypothesis, ancient Macedonian was sounding as the language of
> those Thracian that took part in the Troyan wars. So that the odds are
> 50% against 50%. I agree that it has nothing to do with the Slavs.
> But...surprise, surprice... there are also some typical Slavic words in
> it - see the link that I have cited initially:
> http://indoeuro.bizland.com/tree/balk/macedonian.html
> "Lexicon
> Of all discovered Macedonian words, some do not have cognates in Greek
> but do have them in other Indo-European languages such as Thracian,
> Slavic, and Italic."
> and also:
> "Glossary:
> Macedonian <-> Indo-European
> abagna (a rose)
> abroutes (eyebrows) *bhrú- (an eyebrow)
> agéma (avant guarde, guards; nom.pl.)
> agkalis (a sickle)
> ahrounoi (boundary stones; nom. pl.)
> alié (manure)
> alixa, aliza (an alder) *ol-, *el-, Slavic *jelïxa (alder), Lithuanian
>
> alksnis (alder), Old High German elira, Old Icelandic alr, Latin alnus
> amalé (gentle; fem.) *am- (to love), Latin amare, Lydian amas (loving)
>
> argipous (an eagle)
> arkon (leisure, idleness)
> axos (wood)
> bedu (water) *wed-, *wod- (wet, water)
> danón (a murderer) Greek thanatos (death)
> danos (death) Greek thanatos (death)
> darullos (an oak) *derw- 'tree, timber'
> hetairoi (comrades; nom. pl.)
> gotan (swine; acc.sg.) *gwou- 'cattle'
> grabion (a sort of oak) *grabh-, Slavic *grabü (a hornbeam), Old
> Prussian wosigrabis (euonymus), Umbrian Grabovius (a god of oak)
> ilas (a little oak)
> kanadoi (jaws; nom. pl.)
> klinotrokhon (a maple?) Bulgarian klen (a maple), Old Icelandic hlynr,
> Welsh kelyn, Lithuanian klevas (a maple)
> kombous (molars; acc. pl.) *gombh- (a ledge) "
>
> Where they have come from? I think that it is possible
> they to have been entered into the ancient Macedonian
> because some contact have been achieved between
> the ancient Macedonians and the Slavs. As a fact
> almost all European nations are successors of the
> Proto-Indo-Europeans. So that in the distant past all
> were one and the same. All we are brothers in the real
> sence of the word. Here, of course, are excluded the
> non-Indo-Europeans, as Hungarians, Finns, and Estonians
> that belong to the Ugro-Finnic group from the Altaic family,
> and also Jews, that are from the Semitic family. The Turks
> are also from the Turkic group of the Altaic family.