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MJKolodziej

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Dec 10, 2008, 5:55:45 PM12/10/08
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Banks tellers don't like $2s, halves, sacs, SBAs, Prezi bucks, or even Ikes.
I was getting change today and Jane asked me if I wanted the "dollars" she
had. I she knows I like coins. I aid sure and the got out about $40 in
sacs, SBAs and Prezi bucks. Then she got out almost 3 rolls of 50 cent
pieces. Then she got out a few $2 and then came out $18 in Ikes. I took
it all. 4 halves were silver clad. Nothing looked really good but it was
neat to see all that stuff together.
mk


som...@some.domain

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Dec 10, 2008, 6:36:32 PM12/10/08
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bank tellers often have a small hoard or one thing the sit on.
a teller in boston sat on a $5 she got in the 60's until i showed her a
redbook and offered her a fair price. she told me of the people who tried to
buy ti including a clown who was going to sue her is he didn't get it at face.
he wasn't even a bank customer, came in for meter change. i gues security got
him out.
most people offered her 25-50 bucks. i paid $150 for a vf in the early 90's. i
still have it because it plugged a hole.
most have some small silver pile, usually from some poor shlub or a drunk.
i've bought many single peace and morgan's, usually by offering a fair price.
sometimes they get psycho and know that you're out to screw them and that book
is a fake or blah blah. like the people who think the grandkids will retire on
that set of state quarters. got them all for "free" too. glad i won't be
around for the wailing and whining. bicentennial revisted and amplifief by a
zillion.
my fave was still the bank teller in the late 80's who sold me 40 mixed
dollars for face. wouldn't tkae more, but did let me buy her a bottle of wine.
she was married and didn't give off any lust vibes, so i'll never figure it
out.

Lorrie S.

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Dec 11, 2008, 12:31:46 AM12/11/08
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"MJKolodziej" <mjmwcsREMOV...@htcomp.net> wrote in message
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> Banks tellers don't like $2s, halves, sacs, SBAs, Prezi bucks, or even
Ikes.

They don't like masked men either.


Bruce Remick

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Dec 10, 2008, 10:00:52 PM12/10/08
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"Lorrie S." <lorri...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Or veiled old ladies with 50 rolls of pennies to cash in.


som...@some.domain

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Dec 11, 2008, 1:35:42 AM12/11/08
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or 60 rolls of halves.

Paul Anderson

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Dec 11, 2008, 9:08:48 AM12/11/08
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In article <ghphdk$2jq$1...@news.motzarella.org>,
"MJKolodziej" <mjmwcsREMOV...@htcomp.net> wrote:

> Banks tellers don't like $2s, halves, sacs, SBAs, Prezi bucks, or even Ikes.

I can't imagine they like pennies either, but since those are "normal"
coins they probably don't think about what a pain in the butt they are.
At least the other denominations you mention have some value.

But I agree with them about SBAs and, although "I like Ike" they are
probably a pain because of their size.

Paul

--
Paul Anderson
OpenVMS Engineering
Hewlett-Packard Company

Jon Purkey

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Dec 11, 2008, 12:39:09 PM12/11/08
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On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:08:48 -0500, Paul Anderson
<paul.a...@hp.com> wrote:

>But I agree with them about SBAs and, although "I like Ike" they are
>probably a pain because of their size.

I would prefer the Mint went back to a coin with the composition of
the SBA's as they do not tone and get ugly as quickly. I have 1979
SBA's which look brighter than Presidential Dollars from last year.
Should they start to actually circulate I can't imagine how they will
look in 5-10 years, let alone the 30 years the Mint claims Dollar
coinis would last.

Paul Anderson

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Dec 11, 2008, 1:08:23 PM12/11/08
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In article <6qj2k4ppr65nltaa9...@4ax.com>,
Jon Purkey <room32...@verizon.net> wrote:

> I would prefer the Mint went back to a coin with the composition of
> the SBA's as they do not tone and get ugly as quickly. I have 1979
> SBA's which look brighter than Presidential Dollars from last year.
> Should they start to actually circulate I can't imagine how they will
> look in 5-10 years, let alone the 30 years the Mint claims Dollar
> coinis would last.

I agree the toning is unattractive, but I never heard anyone complain
about how shiny new pennies turn dark brown after a time.

The Canadian dollar coin looks much better after years of circulation.

shreadvector

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Dec 11, 2008, 1:17:02 PM12/11/08
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On Dec 11, 10:08 am, Paul Anderson <paul.ander...@hp.com> wrote:
> In article <6qj2k4ppr65nltaa9ojb92k404t7bg0...@4ax.com>,

As I have said before, the reason they are dull looking is that they
are NOT circualting fast enough. Once they are used more frequently,
they will be buffed slightly as they jingle around in pockets or
register slots or in coin handling equipment.

JUST like silver coins did. Remember how they wouold turn black if you
touched them and then left them alone? Yet if you circulateed them,
the silver coins would buff up nicely.

The Canadian Loon Dollar gets jingled and buffed because it is used.

Bruce Remick

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Dec 11, 2008, 4:03:08 PM12/11/08
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"shreadvector" <fred.e....@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
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On Dec 11, 10:08 am, Paul Anderson <paul.ander...@hp.com> wrote:
> In article <6qj2k4ppr65nltaa9ojb92k404t7bg0...@4ax.com>,
> Jon Purkey <room321_em...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > I would prefer the Mint went back to a coin with the composition of
> > the SBA's as they do not tone and get ugly as quickly. I have 1979
> > SBA's which look brighter than Presidential Dollars from last year.
> > Should they start to actually circulate I can't imagine how they will
> > look in 5-10 years, let alone the 30 years the Mint claims Dollar
> > coinis would last.
>
> I agree the toning is unattractive, but I never heard anyone complain
> about how shiny new pennies turn dark brown after a time.
>
> The Canadian dollar coin looks much better after years of circulation.
>
> Paul
>
> --
> Paul Anderson
> OpenVMS Engineering
> Hewlett-Packard Company

> As I have said before, the reason they are dull looking is that they
> are NOT circualting fast enough. Once they are used more frequently,
> they will be buffed slightly as they jingle around in pockets or
> register slots or in coin handling equipment.

So who are you scolding for not circulating these coins fast enough?
Everyone along the chain? Seems to me that most of the golden dollar coin
mintage is sitting around in bags and rolls and shouldn't turn ugly for
quite a while. If you DO encounter an ugly buck, it's likely in
circulation. So to keep it pretty are you supposed to carry it in your
pocket or hurry up and spend it? BTW, to me "jingling" doesn't equate to
"buffing". More like nicking and scratching, which I guess will keep them
shiny, too.

> JUST like silver coins did. Remember how they wouold turn black if you
> touched them and then left them alone? Yet if you circulateed them,
> the silver coins would buff up nicely.

Never heard of that one. I grew up with silver coins and rarely encountered
a black one except for some Unc quarters that were kept in those little coin
envelopes for decades. People are claiming that golden dollars are turning
ugly in a year or two, maybe BECAUSE of the handling. I have had a couple
of GW dollars sitting in the open on my desk for two years now and they
still look pretty much like they did when new. Maybe if I had handled them
more often......

"Roßert G. Schaffrath"

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Dec 12, 2008, 7:55:11 AM12/12/08
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They will probably look like the Canadian Loonies from 1986, like old
darkened Brass.

shreadvector

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Dec 12, 2008, 8:44:42 AM12/12/08
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On Dec 11, 1:03 pm, "Bruce Remick" <rem...@cox.net> wrote:
> "shreadvector" <fred.e.shec...@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
> more often......- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Obvioously you did not understand this message or the last 27 times I
expllained it, so I will do it one more time and then in the future I
will simply remind you to Google the information.

Golden dollars can get "icky" for a few reasons. The first was the
worst: when they ramped up production to an insane level in 2000, they
made errors and did not properly rinse and dry a huge number of the
coins during production. These corroded fast and would do so even if
in the bag or roll uncirculated. Usually you would find these on the
end coins of a new roll, but they couold be anywhere.
The second way was to take a perfectly good/properly rinsed and dried
coin and touch it followed by not circulating it. When you touch it,
you get oils and acids from your fingers on the coin. They react with
the metal and change the color. If the coin is moving through
circulation and interacting with other coins at some reasonable pace
it will buff the surface and minimize the darkening. if the coin just
sits somewhere it will just get darker and darker. This is an
identical corrosion mechanism to silver coins. If the silver coins
were touched and then left alone, they would get dark. Ditto for
silver coins stored in the wrong packaging. but silver coins that
circulated at a good pace were buffed and looked pretty good.

As for your nicking and scratching vs. buffing comment: if the edge of
a reeded coin hits the flat side of another coin, it can scratch or
nick. If the flat sides of coins rub against each other then they
"buff" and the high spots will get worn but also get shinier than if
not buffed.

Bruce Remick

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Dec 12, 2008, 10:03:15 AM12/12/08
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"shreadvector" <fred.e....@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
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Yes, Mr. Headmaster. Here I thought I did understand. What a fool I was.
Perhaps it was the way you explained it. Now I suppose I do deserve to be
scolded and urged once more to pay strict attention to your explanations in
the future so you don't have to repeat yourself. And thank you so much for
the advice about Google.

Oh, now look what I've made you do. I've made you repeat your lesson on
icky dollars. I've grown so used to your links and url's. Here I've made
you actually write something. Please forgive me.


> Golden dollars can get "icky" for a few reasons. The first was the
> worst: when they ramped up production to an insane level in 2000, they
> made errors and did not properly rinse and dry a huge number of the
> coins during production. These corroded fast and would do so even if
> in the bag or roll uncirculated. Usually you would find these on the
> end coins of a new roll, but they couold be anywhere.
> The second way was to take a perfectly good/properly rinsed and dried
> coin and touch it followed by not circulating it. When you touch it,
> you get oils and acids from your fingers on the coin. They react with
> the metal and change the color. If the coin is moving through
> circulation and interacting with other coins at some reasonable pace
> it will buff the surface and minimize the darkening. if the coin just
> sits somewhere it will just get darker and darker. This is an
> identical corrosion mechanism to silver coins. If the silver coins
> were touched and then left alone, they would get dark. Ditto for
> silver coins stored in the wrong packaging. but silver coins that
> circulated at a good pace were buffed and looked pretty good.

Here again, I must live in a strange world. Many of my circulated silver
coins have been left alone for decades and have not turned black. I'll wait
a while longer.

> As for your nicking and scratching vs. buffing comment: if the edge of
> a reeded coin hits the flat side of another coin, it can scratch or
> nick. If the flat sides of coins rub against each other then they
> "buff" and the high spots will get worn but also get shinier than if
> not buffed.

I guess I'm going to need another of your links or url's here. I never
realized you could "buff" one piece of metal by rubbing it against another.
A fabric wheel with a bit of rouge will work, but I suppose that's
scratching the coin, too, microscopically. Rubbing the surfaces of the
coins in my pocket together seems to be scratching them. One coin kept by
itself in a pocket should stay reasonably shiny, though.

Back to those Mr. Wizard videotapes for the practical answer.

wally

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Dec 12, 2008, 4:18:56 PM12/12/08
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On Dec 11, 9:39 am, Jon Purkey <room321_em...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:08:48 -0500, Paul Anderson
>
> <paul.ander...@hp.com> wrote:
> >But I agree with them about SBAs and, although "I like Ike" they are
> >probably a pain because of their size.
>
> I would prefer the Mint went back to a coin with the composition of
> the SBA's as they do not tone and get ugly as quickly. I have 1979
> SBA's which look brighter than Presidential Dollars from last year.
> Should they start to actually circulate I can't imagine how they will
> look in 5-10 years, let alone the 30 years the Mint claims Dollar
> coinis would last.

I have carried a 2000p Sacagawea dollar in my pocket everyday since I
got it at Walmart when they were first released. It is pretty worn
but very shiny without any ugly toning. It has been banging around
with my pocket knife which is also very worn.......

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