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PCGS Slabs - what do these numbers mean?

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Harv Laser

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Oct 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/30/99
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After two and a half months :( I finally got my 1881-S Morgan back
from PCGS via my local dealer. I don't think I'll go that route again
if I have any other coins certified. It just took too damn long that
way.

Anyway, for a grayscale shot of it in its slab, see
http://www.amigazone.com/images/1881s.jpg

My old scanner throws off weird false colors on coins and plastics so
I have to grayscale it when I scan such things.

Questions: I understand that 3496556 is the coin's serial number.. I
already looked at the PCGS registry and punched in that number and
there it is. But what exactly does Series: 52 and Coin: 15 mean?

And what is the meaning of 7130.65 that precedes the serial number?
Does that mean this is the 7130th 1881-S that they have certified as
MS-65? Or does it mean something else?

And no, it's not for sale :)

Thanks,

Harv
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SphinxRy

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Oct 31, 1999, 2:00:00 AM10/31/99
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>Questions: I understand that 3496556 is the coin's serial number.. I
>already looked at the PCGS registry and punched in that number and
>there it is. But what exactly does Series: 52 and Coin: 15 mean?
>

In the PCGS guide to Coins (1793-1964) every major type of coins has a Series
number. Morgan Dollars are series 52, Washington Quarters are 39, ect... the
15th coin in the Morgan Series is the 1881-S, The 1881-P is coin 14, ect. Every
coin has a unique identification number. All 1881-S Morgan Dollars are coin
7130. all 1881-P are 7129. I hope this helps. Feel free to e-mail me with any
other questions.

Ryan

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Oct 31, 1999, 2:00:00 AM10/31/99
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In article <19991030230509...@ng-fc1.aol.com>,

sphi...@aol.comnospam (SphinxRy) wrote:
>
> In the PCGS guide to Coins (1793-1964) every major type of coins has a
Series
> number. Morgan Dollars are series 52, Washington Quarters are 39,
ect... the
> 15th coin in the Morgan Series is the 1881-S, The 1881-P is coin 14,
ect. Every
> coin has a unique identification number. All 1881-S Morgan Dollars
are coin
> 7130. all 1881-P are 7129.

Seems a little redundent. This means all 1881-S Morgans are 7130's but
they all are ALSO 5215's


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Tom Kindschi

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Oct 31, 1999, 2:00:00 AM10/31/99
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cond...@my-deja.com wrote:

True....

But I think the Series## Coin## were added at a later date to be more
user friendly. If you look at old PCGS slabs, they didn't include the
series and coin numbers, but the full serial numbers were of identical
makeup.

But to make things even more complicated, any "special attributes"
will change the lead numbers of the serial number. For instance,
Morgan dollars generally range from 7100 to 7300. However, I have an
1887 DMPL, and its lead numbers are 97173. (Based on a sample of one,
the 9 must stand for DMPL). Similarly, my 1954D FBL Franklin Half is
86668 leading one to believe 8 stands for FBL.

Oh, it's a complicated world..... ;)

Tom
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cond...@my-deja.com

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Nov 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/1/99
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In article <381ccc38...@news.pe.net>,
kind...@pe.net wrote:

> True....
>
> But I think the Series## Coin## were added at a later date to be more
> user friendly. If you look at old PCGS slabs, they didn't include the
> series and coin numbers, but the full serial numbers were of identical
> makeup.
>
> But to make things even more complicated, any "special attributes"
> will change the lead numbers of the serial number. For instance,
> Morgan dollars generally range from 7100 to 7300. However, I have an
> 1887 DMPL, and its lead numbers are 97173. (Based on a sample of one,
> the 9 must stand for DMPL). Similarly, my 1954D FBL Franklin Half is
> 86668 leading one to believe 8 stands for FBL.
>
> Oh, it's a complicated world..... ;)

Thanks for that Info Tom. I'm adding it to the information I've been
gathering on the history of slabbing.

Stuart Segan

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Nov 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/1/99
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The series #, coin # thing was added in the past few years as someone
indicated to make the system more user friendly. Whether it has really
caught on is open to debate.

I do not believe that a 9 in front of the serial # indicates DMPL
exclusively as the 9 is used in other series.

Usually a 9 is put in front of a coins description number to indicate
that it was added to the database at a later date. for example on the
1859 quarter eagle when PCGS started denoting New Reverse on the holder,
Old Reverse retained its original number and New Reverse was given the
same number, but with the 9 in front.

The 8 is not exclusive to FBL as it is also used for Full Steps in
Jeffersons.

Stuart

cond...@my-deja.com

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Nov 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/2/99
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In article <381DA3...@coinworld.com>,

sse...@coinworld.com wrote:
> The series #, coin # thing was added in the past few years as someone
> indicated to make the system more user friendly. Whether it has really
> caught on is open to debate.
>
> I do not believe that a 9 in front of the serial # indicates DMPL
> exclusively as the 9 is used in other series.
>
> Usually a 9 is put in front of a coins description number to indicate
> that it was added to the database at a later date. for example on the
> 1859 quarter eagle when PCGS started denoting New Reverse on the
holder,
> Old Reverse retained its original number and New Reverse was given the
> same number, but with the 9 in front.
>
> The 8 is not exclusive to FBL as it is also used for Full Steps in
> Jeffersons.
>
> Stuart
Thanks Stuart, now I've got more questions to find the answers to. This
is fun!
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