Please stop the anti-semitic and Hitler remarks
Bruce Haynes
destroying a valuable chat group. I'm German and my parents immigrated to
Australia in 1961 just before I was born. . My dad was beaten for not
saluting to a soldier. He was 8 , My mum's grandparents and a few aunties
were taken to concentration camps and never seen again. My opa returned
from war with only one leg and my great opa had everything, including the
family title, castle, everything taken and burnt by the Nazi's...so the
world Nazi leaves a horendous taste in even German peoples mouths,
particularly me. I read this group for information but I just had to speak
out.
A. Nony Moose
"Bruce Haynes" <nos...@please.net> wrote in message
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Sieg Heil, Mein Fuhrer!
František Baltiska
"A. Nony Moose" <a@b.c> wrote in message
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The Hitler references by Beanie and this person trivialises and mocks those
12 million deaths caused by the Nazis, and is an insult to their memories.
You should be ashamed. PLEASE CEASE
oly
I think the proper word is "metaphysical", as in the philosophical
sense that had not all human time and actions taken place exactly as
they did in both the near and remote past, we exact inhabitants of the
present would not be here today.
If Hitler had been killed in the trenches during World War I (and his
wartime record suggests that he was a brave individual), the entirety
of time istself would have elapsed differently and many of our parents
and ourselves might have never come into existence.
Had some Nazi trooper not slapped the OPs father right-side up, well
then that kid's life might have been very different and in that time-
line the OP would likely not have ever been born (gee, well,
alternative history can be rather attractive sometimes).
Up to the moment of our conception, at least our parents' lives could
not have been much different in any aspect than what actually happened
to them, or perhaps our parents would have never met, or perhaps given
the slightest deviation in time, another of our father's sperm might
have made it to our mother's egg first.
Perhaps all those who died in World War II had to die to make the
present world what it is. Or maybe they did not have to die, but
again, with any small shift in history, many of those of us who are
here today would not be here now.
Stalin probably killed a lot more Hunkies than Hitler (and Stalin
probably killed more people than Hitler in sum total), but he seems to
get off pretty lightly.
Still, hey, I never studied philosophy or metapysical philosophy.
But, if you don't care to think profound thoughts about time and
existence, well we can just tell some more Hitler jokes.
Sorry about the family castle.
oly
som...@some.domain
oly
No, we can appreciate "the lessons of history" very damn well.
Many of us collect coins primarily as "historical artifacts" and are
very mindful of history. Many of us have books of history and
biography that exceed our very decent numismatic libraries.
Men sow and men reap. Men build and men destroy. Men love and men
hate. History is the record. Coins are bits of the evidence of past
times.
History doesn't care about your little "feelers".
oly
Beanie
"František Baltiska" <mai...@tuebingen.mpg.de> wrote in message
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Go fuck yourself, Goebbels,
You Nazi krauts always want to run the world and tell people what to say or not
to say.
You don't like free speech? Well, tough shit, Himmler, you Nazi cocksucker!
František Baltiska
"Beanie" <b...@an.ie> wrote in message news:imoqou$u40$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
>> The Hitler references by Beanie and this person trivialises and mocks
>> those 12 million deaths caused by the Nazis, and is an insult to their
>> memories.
>
> Go fuck yourself, Goebbels,
> You Nazi krauts always want to run the world and tell people what to say
> or not to say.
> You don't like free speech? Well, tough shit, Himmler, you Nazi
> cocksucker!
>
>
I am appalled your lack of netiquette on this newsgroup. It is even more
than that. A level of moral decency and goodwill is lacking in you. I
hope you will show some courtesy by stop using vulgar language. I know this
is most a USA group but it is reading all the world to learn USA history by
her numismatics. Pls do not abuse the newsgroup by making these insulting
and offensive posts. This newsgroup should instead generate healthy
discussions share knowlage about numismatics codone world brotherhood under
the hobby and warn of dodgy schemes. It must not be allowed to degenerate
into ugly name calling. Have you no sence of decency and feeling for
others? Several people have asked you to stop making these vulgar posts yet
you continue. I hereby make a call to action for all other users to report
you to ab...@aioe.org and include headers.
Charles Tan
T. Shanmugaratnam
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T. Shanmugaratnam
"A. Nony Moose" <a@b.c> wrote in message
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T. Shanmugaratnam
means Internet
Service Provider) of the offender, or the abuse desk of the Usenet provider.
These are found
in something called the HEADER. If you are using a microsoft product, here
is how you get to the
full message including the header.
Selecting the message, right-click properties, click details then message
source
Then click SELECT ALL, then click COPY, then PASTE into a new email message,
then
copy and paste the abuse reporting address in to address field. Thats all
there is to it.
This Beanie person seems to be in Ireland as his address has the IE top
level domain country code
"Bruce Haynes" <nos...@please.net> wrote in message
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Beanie
Typical kraut - you vill do things my vay or I will report you to the Gestapo.
What part of free speech do you not understand, Eichmann?
Jason Burke
> like you. Talking about the Nazi's does not reflect badly on the USA,
> it reflects badly on the fucking GERMANS who put the motherfuckers in
> power and fought under that flag.
>
> So if you are too much of a fucking pussy to read the truth, then go
> back under the covers and play with your little pecker whilst Himmler
> cornholes you, faggot.
>
If you let Bobbie Finnan get to you, he thinks he's won. Just ignore his
pathetic self.
You know he tried to kill himself a few years back, don't you? Id didn't
QUITE work, but left him pretty much a vegetable. Not that he wasn't
nasty before.
Gary
>
> If you let Bobbie Finnan get to you, he thinks he's won. Just ignore his
> pathetic self.
>
> You know he tried to kill himself a few years back, don't you? Id didn't
> QUITE work, but left him pretty much a vegetable. Not that he wasn't
This is shameful, because RCC is getting some traffic again after
people have gotten so disgusted with the censorship and bannings at
other
coin sights. They won't be likely to stay around here long with all
the vulgarity and hate from Finnan.
oly
Anybody who would put up with a moderated site in the first place
doesn't belong here. RF is O.K.
oly
Jason Burke
Oh come on. You can't expect Finnan to have any sense, much less
"netiquette".
Go buy some kiddie books from his site. That way he'll get a nickel for
each one. Might just keep him off welfare for five minutes.
Reid Goldsborough
> Oh come on. You can't expect Finnan to have any sense, much less
> "netiquette".
Here's a slightly different spin on what I've posted here before about
all this. Criticizing these kinds of people just spurs them on, leading
to more of the same. RCC has *become* Beanie and oly, same as Usenet in
general. In short and in general, it's a nasty place where people who
appear to be living unhappy lives use the license of distance and
anonymity to insult one another and spew out hatred, perhaps more than
in any other communications medium in existence today with the exception
of pro-terrorist Web sites.
This is the key reason for the demise of its popularity. Not only have
ISPs cut off free access to Usenet, but those who could have free access
through Google Groups or free news servers have left in droves, and
newscomers for the most part take one look and leave, which in turn is
the key reason ISPs have eliminated their free news service. RCC now
receives an average of about five posts/day. In its heyday it received
well over tens times more.
Coin people have gone to groups that are far more civil because they're
moderated, i.e., discussion group leaders prevent angry, unhappy people
from taking over and driving others off. Some of these groups have other
problems, including heavy-handed moderation that prevents healthy
criticism. But most people appear to find that this is a workable
trade-off and understand the reasoning behind it, which includes the
prevention of out-of-control flaming and the promotion of the
organization spending the money to make the group available.
Collectors Universe Message Boards, run by the same company behind PCGS,
receives 20 times more discussion that RCC, and this is just in its U.S.
Coin Forum. If you factor in the other boards, it receives maybe 40
times more traffic. Many of the experts who used to post here have gone
there, big name numismatists who've written books and articles as well
as relatively unknown but knowledgeable collectors. It's a good example
of a popular online messaging destination that's heavy handed in its
moderation but which most users accept.
Many other online places exist for coin collectors who specialize. Those
that are successful, that receive a healthy amount of traffic and
discussion, are also moderated. There's something very cogent here about
the nature of human nature, about how civilization, and a civilized
life, requires an outside force to reign in its more destructive
aspects. This plays out of course in many other areas of society as well.
RCC still has a smidgen of useful talk, and there are a handful of good
people who still post here, if for the most part sporadically. But
mostly it's Beany and oly talk, a level of discourse that's perhaps best
characterized by this sentiment that oly posted here last year: "Hate is
a thoroughly satisfying emotion, 100% complete in a way that love or
friendship never can be." If you contemplate this thought, everything
that has happened to RCC makes sense.
--
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Connoisseur: http://rg.ancients.info/glom
Counterfeit: http://rg.ancients.info/bogos
Gary
> Typical kraut - you vill do things my vay or I will report you to the Gestapo.
>
Free speech does not excuse people from responsibility or preclude
consequences. We are not obligated to tolerate those who misuse the
Internet. Like most legacy newsgroups, this one exists for a
purpose,
and has a charter. We want it to be used accordingly.
Before posting here, please keep in mind that most of the
participants
in this newsgroup are coin collectors, some of them under the age of
18.
This newsgroup has been recommended in a number of current print
books,
such as Coin Collecting for Dummies. When newcomers visit the group,
seeing
a spew of vulgar words, racist, antisemitic and homophobic rants from
"the
usual suspects" is a real discouragement.
While posts that lead to thoughtful discussion are welcome,
expressions of
hatred are not appreciated.
Many Internet Service Providers (ISPs) require you to honor a service
agreement or Terms of Service (TOS). Users in particular must
honor a strict TOS that prohibits offensive language, commercial
postings (ourside of the charter) and any behavior that interferes
with normal
operation of an Internet service, forum, chatroom or newsgroup. Be
aware that a
pattern of serious misuse will result in complaints to your ISP and
possible action against you.
Richard L. Hall
--
Richard
http://coins.richlh.com/MyCoinLinks.htm
http://www.richlh.com
Don't lament that the rose bush has thorns. Rejoice that the thornbush has
roses. [Ancient Egyptian Saying]
"Reid Goldsborough" <reidgol...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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mazorj
"Richard L. Hall" <richll...@richlh.com> wrote in message
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>I remember when we used to carry on some civil discussions
You must have an eidetic memory, Richard. :-D
Or was that another April Fool gotcha?
Richard L. Hall
"mazorj" <maz...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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But it doesn't take much of a memory to remember them. All I have to do is
go to google groups and remember my name.
Beanie
"David Elharar" <delh...@bezeq.co.il> wrote in message
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>I wonder who the admin of this group is?
There is no admin.
> Is it possible to ban the users sending anti Jewish messages?
It's an old and despicable Zionist ploy to paint those opposed to the racist
political movement of Zionism as anti-Semitic.
> Is it possible to establish a policy forbidding bad language?
Fuck you.
> I am here to read about USA coins and stuff and not insults
I reiterate: fuck you!
Jim_Higgins
Right. Everything from impotence to ingrown toe nails is a Zionist plot.
Get a life.
Beanie
"Jim_Higgins" <gordi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Hey moron, I said PLOY, not PLOT.
Please learn how to read.
Jim_Higgins
You would never rise to the level of dust on the boot soles of a Jew.
Beanie
Cheap Zionist ploy in use again.
Jason Burke
> "Beanie"<b...@an.ie> wrote in news:ins4se$cui$1...@speranza.aioe.org:
> You have been reported
And you REALLY think Finnan cares?
Beanie
> You have been reported
What are you still doing here, I thought I told you to go fuck yourself!