ANA cans another Executive Director ...
Ken Barr
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ANA Ends Employment Relationship with Larry Shepherd as Executive
Director
(Colorado Springs, Colorado) -- The American Numismatic Association
Board of Governors today announced that it has ended its employment
relationship with Larry Shepherd, as Executive Director, effective as of
Sept. 20, 2011. The vote of the Board to sever that relationship was
unanimous.
Coinciding with placing Shepherd on leave in August, the board initiated
the process for a comprehensive organizational review of management
issues and employment matters, and engaged the assistance of Employer¹s
Resources of Colorado. The human resources consulting firm has
identified employment policy deficiencies, and provided recommendations
for improving internal operational practices and positive motivational
development as the ANA moves forward.
³We appreciate Shepherd¹s past three years of contributions, but the
Board determined the association needs to move in a different direction
going forward, providing greater focus on its core educational mission,²
said ANA President Tom Hallenbeck.
³The ANA is about more than just being a big coin show. It¹s about our
individual members and member clubs. It¹s about educating our members
and the general public, doing so by creating a positive numismatic
experience for the many diverse segments of our organization and the
greater hobby community.²
Hallenbeck added that, effective immediately, the board has repealed the
fee instituted by Shepherd for ANA member clubs to occupy tables at the
annual World¹s Fair of Money convention and the National Money Show.
Hallenbeck also announced that the ANA is establishing a corporate
governance committee, and that ANA Governor and former President,
Clifford Mishler, will chair a new strategic planning committee.
³We will begin an Executive Director search with a new focus on the
association providing a more balanced approach to serving its
educational mission. We will be seeking a new Executive Director to help
us achieve this objective in a way that will better serve the total
hobby community,² Hallenbeck emphasized.
Shepherd was hired in March 2008. He was placed on paid administrative
leave on Aug. 20, 2011, by unanimous vote of the Board.
The American Numismatic Association is a congressionally chartered
nonprofit educational organization dedicated to encouraging people to
study and collect money and related items. The ANA helps its 30,000
members and the public discover and explore the world of money through
its vast array of education and outreach programs, as well as its
museum, library, publications, conventions and seminars.
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Fer the record, I am an ANA Life Member, active volunteer in numerous
local/state/regional/national coin organizations, ANA Judge (and
occasional Exhibitor), past summer convention General Chairman (San
Francisco 2005) and often share a bourse table with a local deeler at
the annual Summer and Early Spring conventions.
I don't know Larry personally (other than nodding "Hi" to him in the
concession line and/or men's room from time to time), but I have
disagreed with many of the policies put into place (albeit undoubtedly
with the approval of the Board of Governors) during his tenure. He
seemed, IMO, to spend too much time focused on the desires of the
high-end retail coin deelers versus the small-fish coin deelers,
local/specialized coin clubs and individual members.
I disagreed with the decision to "brand" the ANA summer convention as a
Chicago-based show, and hope the Board will revert to a rotating site
location policy as soon as it is feasible. I disagreed with the
addition of the Fall show in Pittsburgh co-sponsored with PAN and hope
it is discontinued. I disagreed with the "No Early Bird Badges" policy
and hope it is rescinded [as a former bourse chairman of a 150-plus
table show, I KNOW that the smaller deelers WANT early birds in the show
to both buy from and sell to ... it's only the high end retail deelers
who want them kept out]. I disagreed with the "soak the clubs" policy
regarding their informational tables at the conventions, and am glad to
see via the above press release that this policy has already been
rescinded. (I have numerous minor nits as well, but these are the major
gripes ...).
I hope the current Board will make sure that the new Executive Director
that they select will adopt a fair and balanced approach to the
organization, interested in addressing the needs and desires of all the
various subcategories of the membership, from the casual Joe Collector
all the way through the Big Tyme Deelers.
--
Ken Barr Numismatics email: k...@kenbarr.com
P. O. Box 32541 website: http://www.kenbarr.com
San Jose, CA 95152 Coins, currency, exonumia, souvenir cards, etc.
408-272-3247 NEXT SHOW: Peninsula CC (Naperdak Hall, SJ) November 6
oly
they suspended him) and at that moment, he looked like a man who had
no overwhelming special cares or special concerns in this world. He
appeared to be a happy and satisfied man. As a long-time ANA member,
it concerns me that we won't know what happened until Mr. Shepherd
files a lawsuit.
oly
sgt23
http://numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ad=article&ArticleId=24158
Don
I am proud of what was accomplished during my three-plus years of employment
at the American Numismatic Association.
I worked diligently to restore soundness and trust; and to move the ANA
forward and to bring it up to date with modern times, changing member
preferences, and current technology. I saw the need for vision and forward
thinking leadership, to adjust the ANA to the evolution of the hobby, and I
tried to provide that. I employed new staff and implemented new ideas and
initiatives to prepare the ANA for the future.
I emphasized the need to attract new members with a broader range of ages
and collecting preferences. I recognized the serious challenges that lie
ahead, and realized that they would not be met by looking backwards or just
re-employing the policies of the past. I challenged the Board and the ANA
staff to do the same; to view the future by looking forward, rather than
through a rear view mirror. I realize that many people are resistant to or
fearful of change, but with an aging and dwindling membership base we could
not (and can not, going forward) afford to keep our head in the sand. I knew
that my forward thinking policies and efforts to force the existing staff
and the Board to deal with uncomfortable strategic issues might create some
[dissension] and/or enemies, but I did what I thought was best for the long
term-benefit of the entire ANA community, not just the vocal minority.
Following this philosophy I pushed hard for results and accomplished them.
Over the past 18 months we made great strides in upgrading the quality of
our magazine, thanks largely to Barbara Gregory and her terrific staff. We
greatly improved communications with our members, and emphasized
transparency through magazine articles, mailings and emails. Through the
efforts of RyAnne Scott, my goal of becoming more active in social
networking and introducing innovative programs to appeal to members of all
ages was achieved. We worked hard to increase the exposure and improve the
quality of Summer Seminar, to provide top-flight and affordable education to
all our members.
I created the Museum Showcase to bring the educational benefits of our
museum to our convention attendees. I viewed [upgrading] our conventions and
bourse activities as key components of our overall marketing strategy to
promote the hobby. In response we produced the largest, and perhaps most
successful and acclaimed convention and coin show in the ANA's history.
Despite the obvious negative reference to that in the ANA's press release, I
am very pleased with that.
I have received enormous praise and appreciation from the members and the
dealer community for the job I have done. I believe I achieved for the ANA
member and dealer community what the ANA hired me to do, and I will always
be proud of that fact.
During my tenure at the ANA I have not violated the ANA employee handbook,
or the code of ethics as stated in the ANA bylaws. I did not violate any
provisions of the ANA conflict of interest policy. I did not violate federal
EEOC anti-discrimination or harassment guidelines (sexual, age, race, etc.).
I offered to the general counsel that I would take a polygraph to clear up
any issues or concerns that may have arisen due to unfounded rumors and
innuendo, but I sensed they were more interested in finding a cause than in
finding facts, as evidenced by my being told on Aug. 20 that I would not be
coming back, even before the outside investigation took place.
I want to thank everyone in the ANA community for the tremendous outpouring
of support and encouragement I received during this trying period. I
especially appreciate the courageous ANA staff members who contacted me from
their homes or who expressed their feelings to the numismatic media. These
actions have meant a lot to me.
Collector
news:5f9b842e-141d-4c94...@20g2000yqq.googlegroups.com:
>> oly
>
> I read this article today saying that Shepherd was hire by Berk LLD.
>
> http://numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ad=article&ArticleId=24158
Berk will hire her too?????
oly
>
> >> oly
>
> > I read this article today saying that Shepherd was hire by Berk LLD.
>
> >http://numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ad=article&ArticleId=24158
>
> Nadia Moskver was fired from the ANA at the same time... wonder if Harlan
> Berk will hire her too?????
was indeed the problem), not in a million years. Puddy has to be
covered in the employee handbook.
oly
Bremick
"Collector" <coll...@collectors.com> wrote in message
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> oly <oly...@aol.com> wrote in
> news:8df0a7ec-d021-4c8b...@k15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
>> On Oct 4, 12:49 pm, Collector <collec...@collectors.com> wrote:
>>> sgt23 <bravesfandevo...@yahoo.com> wrote
>> 441fe...@20g2000yqq.googlegroups.com:
>>> >> oly
>>>
>>> > I read this article today saying that Shepherd was hire by Berk
>>> > LLD.
>>>
>>> >http://numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ad=article&ArticleId=241
>> 58
>>>
>>> Nadia Moskver was fired from the ANA at the same time... wonder if
>>> Harlan Berk will hire her too?????
>>
>> Oh my, I'm really pathetic. I'd have never thought of puddy (if that
>> was indeed the problem), not in a million years. Puddy has to be
>> covered in the employee handbook.
>>
>> oly
>>
>
>
> her, that I was told back when Larry was first put on leave. I was told at
> the time that there was additional problems because she was using her
> relationship with the boss to intimidate or harass other employees as
> well.
>
Dallyings at the ANA !!!!??? Say it isn't so. I could easily understand
things like this happening among executives in Congress or in state
politics, or even in Italy or France. But not in the revered ANA. I suppose
it's too late to try to shield my young grandchildren from hearing this
damning information from their schoolmates. Hopefully, they won't abandon
the hobby.
oly
> "Collector" <collec...@collectors.com> wrote in message
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> news:j6fkpc$rpc$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
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> > oly <oly2...@aol.com> wrote in
>
> >> On Oct 4, 12:49 pm, Collector <collec...@collectors.com> wrote:
> >>> sgt23 <bravesfandevo...@yahoo.com> wrote
> >>> innews:5f9b842e-141d-4c94-a7c7-1
> >>> >> oly
>
> >>> > I read this article today saying that Shepherd was hire by Berk
> >>> > LLD.
>
> >>> >http://numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ad=article&ArticleId=241
> >> 58
>
> >>> Nadia Moskver was fired from the ANA at the same time... wonder if
> >>> Harlan Berk will hire her too?????
>
> >> Oh my, I'm really pathetic. I'd have never thought of puddy (if that
> >> was indeed the problem), not in a million years. Puddy has to be
> >> covered in the employee handbook.
>
> >> oly
>
> > I hadn't posted that earlier but that was the explanation, his affair with
> > her, that I was told back when Larry was first put on leave. I was told at
> > the time that there was additional problems because she was using her
> > relationship with the boss to intimidate or harass other employees as
> > well.
>
> Dallyings at the ANA !!!!??? Say it isn't so. I could easily understand
> things like this happening among executives in Congress or in state
> politics, or even in Italy or France. But not in the revered ANA. I suppose
> it's too late to try to shield my young grandchildren from hearing this
> damning information from their schoolmates. Hopefully, they won't abandon
>
> - Show quoted text -
Well, IF it's true (emphasis), it's not the first time. Which is why
I smack my forehead with such great vehemence at my short memory &
overall stupidity. Several years back there was some kind of apparent
female-sharing scenario at ANA HQ that lots of people were then much
commenting on, but that situation was quickly resolved by a former
high-ranker marrying the apparently rather amicable lady-in-
question.
IMHO, Coins always suffer when Puddy is involved.
oly
Bremick
"Owl" <o...@cointalk.com> wrote in message
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> If it is true that a weasily strumpet played Larry for a fool, that would
> surely be a cautionary tale. I have seen many work situations where a
> bimbet does that very thing. And it is always the man who becomes the fall
> guy not the Lolita who has taken advantage. Why do rules against sexual
> harassment never punish the female transgressor? Surely there are just as
> many girls and women at fault as men
>
>
I hope you realize we shouldn't go there..............
oly
The fact that he doesn't want his post archived says as much. oly
Greg Lyon
Following is a statement issued Thursday, Oct. 6, by the American Numismatic
Association Board of Governors in response to recent statements by former
ANA Executive Director Larry Shepherd.
"The former ANA Executive Director and others recently released statements
regarding his termination. The Governors of the American Numismatic
Association have made every effort to take the high road and not air a
private personnel matter. We thought it best to promptly move on.
The ANA declines to disclose those matters because they involve other
personnel or third-parties outside the ANA. The decisions to first suspend
then terminate Mr. Shepherd were not 'political,' nor made in haste. They
were made after a review of the facts and with careful deliberation.
Mr. Shepherd subsequently hired legal counsel who suggested that the ANA has
defamed him. The ANA has not defamed Mr. Shepherd and, in fact, carefully
avoided making any statements in an effort to avoid a rancorous, public
discussion on personnel matters which are normally best left private.
Mr. Shepherd's attorney directed the ANA to have no contact with him, and
the ANA honored that request. Yet, despite that directive from his attorney,
Mr. Shepherd has contacted ANA Board members, as did his new employer,
Harlan J. Berk, Ltd. In addition, Berk issued a news release that is
disparaging and denigrating to the ANA, based on opinion, not fact.
The ANA considerately stated that the employment relationship with Mr.
Shepherd had 'ended' to specifically avoid a public announcement that he was
fired. Berk's release stated Shepherd was fired. The ANA now confirms that
Mr. Shepherd's employment was terminated, and in view of all of the factual
information reviewed by the Board, correctly so.
This was not a decision that resulted from new Governors coming on board,
but it was reviewed by both the outgoing Board and the newly elected Board
in an unprecedented joint session. All 12 Governors concluded that it was
appropriate that Mr. Shepherd be placed on leave while the matter was under
review. After this review, termination followed.
Governor and Past President Clifford Mishler has succinctly summed up the
ANA's thoughts on this matter:
"Having participated as a board member in both the hiring and termination of
Larry Shepherd as Executive Director of the American Numismatic Association,
I want to express my deep disappointment that a relationship that commenced
with great optimism has concluded on such a sour note. In both instances the
decisions were unanimous. Unfortunately, a commitment which commenced with
great promise, transitioned into one of such great disappointment.
Ultimately, the Board lost confidence in Mr. Shepherd as the ANA Executive
Director."
It is most unfortunate that Mr. Shepherd has resorted to a public discussion
that the ANA cannot comment upon, instead of moving forward in a dignified
manner. We are deeply saddened by his decision. Rather than dwell on past
mistakes, the ANA will move forward and fulfill its educational mission to
serve the best interests of the entire numismatic community.
-------------------------
Greg Lyon
ANA Board of Governors 2011-2013
The views represented here are my own personal opinions and do not represent
those of the American Numismatic Association.
Pete Sumrall
over this fiasco. if Larry puts together a slate of candidates he could
clean house. He's got my vote.
Harold Hough
dances around enumerating all the things he did NOT do, but does not address
the rumors that he has a sexual affair with a young female ANA staffer who
also lost her job.
Did Harlan J. Berk offer the young lady a job also like they did Larry
Shepherd?
Not as far as anyone can tell, which puts the numismatic fraternity in a bad
light supporting the image of a network of older white men "good old boys"
where women are gold-digging c*nts, gays and Jews are good subjects for
dirty jokes, and you better have a hand on your gun or the alarm button if a
person with black or brown skin walks in your store.
Bremick
"Harold Hough" <har...@citadelmedia.com> wrote in message
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> dances around enumerating all the things he did NOT do, but does not
> address the rumors that he has a sexual affair with a young female ANA
> staffer who also lost her job.
>
> Did Harlan J. Berk offer the young lady a job also like they did Larry
> Shepherd?
>
> Not as far as anyone can tell, which puts the numismatic fraternity in a
> bad light supporting the image of a network of older white men "good old
> boys" where women are gold-digging c*nts, gays and Jews are good subjects
> for dirty jokes, and you better have a hand on your gun or the alarm
> button if a person with black or brown skin walks in your store.
a bad light? Who monitors at the numismatic fraternity at all outside the
hobby? Who, outside of the hobby, would be apt to hear about this alleged
scandal, and even give the slightest hoot? For that matter, how many
collectors give a crap? And who in included in this so-called "numismatic
fraternity"? Sounds pretty elitist to me. Count me out, or at least
detached.
tcmitssr
"Greg Lyon" <gr...@dizum.com> wrote in message
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> This was released by the ANA this afternoon:
>
> -------------------------
> Greg Lyon
> ANA Board of Governors 2011-2013
>
Hate to break it to you but your smug attitude since you first began
trolling the chat boards looking for votes, IMHO, until you got an
uncontested election.....just proves to me that you don't have the requisite
skill sets to do an effective job.
You'll be kissing our butts for votes in two years if you can't run
uncontested again. Keep writing your smarmy comments now, Governor. What the
heck, it's not like you called for his removal before you were
appointed...whoops, I mean "elected."
So, which "master" speaks before your head turns on the current Board?
Scott
did say that Shepherd hired legal counsel who suggested that Shepherd was
defamed. In response to that, the Board said that they made �an effort to
The statement says that the Board �ended� their employment relationship with
Shepherd yet seems to be concerned that Harlan Berk�s statement said
Shepherd was fired. However, a person does not have to be a rocket scientist
to know that after it was announced Shepherd was put on leave during an
investigation and then his employment was �ended� to put the two events
together to guess he was fired. In fact, my post on that day was �ANA Fires
Shepherd.�
Again, this statement does not say anything of substance. But it appears
that the Board feels they have to defend themselves. If the Board did not do
anything wrong, what are they defending? Then to have Cliff Mishler, past
president and current governor, make a statement, it makes them appear like
they are trying to hide something.
What are the ANA Board of Governors hiding?
The ANA released their statement, Harlan Berk had his say, then Shepherd
responded. Everyone vented and that should be enough. Why did the Board of
Directors have to respond? What are they hiding?
The Board�s statement concludes:
It is most unfortunate that Mr. Shepherd has resorted to a public discussion
that the ANA cannot comment upon, instead of moving forward in a dignified
manner. We are deeply saddened by his decision. Rather than dwell on past
mistakes, the ANA will move forward and fulfill its educational mission to
serve the best interests of the entire numismatic community.
If you do not want to �dwell on past mistakes,� then just SHUT UP!
Sid
IT ISN'T SLANDER AND HE CAN'T SUE BECAUSE IT IS THE TRUTH. JUST LET US
KNOW THE TRUTH!
"Nomen Nescio" <nob...@dizum.com> wrote in message
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> All this takes is a little old-fashioned investigating.
>
> Early reports noted that "more than one" ANA employee was put on leave.
>
> There were TWO people removed from the ANA employee listing (on their
> website).
>
> The other person was Nadia Moskver, a person hired by, and working
> directly under, Larry Shepherd.
>
> She was the "Special Projects Manager".
>
> Also a specialist at taking oral depositions.
Always Gone
>If it is true that a weasily strumpet played Larry for a fool, that would
>surely be a cautionary tale. I have seen many work situations where a bimbet
>does that very thing. And it is always the man who becomes the fall guy not
>the Lolita who has taken advantage. Why do rules against sexual harassment
>never punish the female transgressor? Surely there are just as many girls
>and women at fault as men
>
there are a lot more men in high places than women. In this case,
Larry was the boss and she a subordinate or lower level employee. She
likely caused the problem with throwing her weight around using her
relationship with Larry, which would not be Larry's fault, but he
shouldn't be messing with the staff. Rather, find his women outside
of the organization.
oly
exactly what was alleged to have taken place, but if you accept that
this is MOL what happened, well, then the Board has acted wisely and
even equitably. Wow.
oly
Bremick
"oly" <oly...@aol.com> wrote in message
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oly
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I have to admit this offers a lot more interesting reading than posts about
someone finding a 2011 national parks quarter or a link to an eBay auction.
oly
> "oly" <oly2...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Mr. Remick, you worked in a bureaucracy, I believe, although perhaps/
maybe not too recently. Anymore, nowadays, the rather standardized MO
in any office setting is (1) don't have these kind of relationships at
work; (2) when they become problems (i.e., adversely impacting other
employees in their job performance) both "offending" parties need to
be treated equally; and (3) top management just can't say too much to
the rank and file folks. IMHO, now that we MAYBE have some inkling of
what happened, it seems the Board proceeded and discharged their
responsibility in a proper manner.
BTW, I got a Glacier quarter at the liquor store last night!!!
oly
Bremick
====
You knew I wouldn't give a hoot about your liquor store find, but I do
get a kick reading all the hubub here over an alleged dalliance that
shouldn't affect anyone except the few parties involved. I'd be surprised
if half of the ANA members could name anyone on the ANA board. When I
worked in the govt many years ago, messing around in the office was dealt
with firmly, not unlike in the military and in most private industry. But
seeing it turn into a national numismatic scandal when it involves a couple
folks who manage a coin collectors club is eye-rolling.
Steve Spradlin
to run for the ANA board. Her propensity to call major
dealers "crooks" that "need to be locked up" for what in her opinion
is "criminal" coin doctoring should make the
previous lawsuits against the ANA look like parking tickets.
oly
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The thing that the ANA needs is a real coin nerd, or a herd of them,
in the office on Cascade Ave. The ANA has ALWAYS NEEDED this.
Coins nerds might desperately covet the opposite sex, but their social
skills usually suck, and besides, they hate to divert their funds from
the collection.
oly
Bremick
"Steve Spradlin" <coing...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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So how would this affect your hobby enjoyment?
oly
> "Steve Spradlin" <coinguy1...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
I think that Mr. Remick underestimates the ANA. Yes, you can
certainly collect coins without ever coming into contact with the ANA,
but...
In a general way, I don't know if the ANA has a net realizable "total
assets" of even $20 million. It would not take a lot in this frivolus
lawsuit-happy country to bust up the ANA (probably the ANA has some
form of liability insurance to help guard its physical and financial
assets). The question is (or would be) whether or not the ANA adds
anything to the hobby? or not? Whether the ANA is worth preserving.
Or not.
IMHO, the ANA is less than it could be or should be; but it is worth
far more than zero. The ANA does a decent job of bringing like-minded
people together (the Conventions and the Summer Seminar). To its
credit, the ANA has a good library and a good museum (but both located
in a city that is not in the first-rank of American cities, nor is it
exactly on the "beaten path" - you've gotta want to go to Colorado
Springs). The ANA has a monthly membership magazine is slick, glossy
and attractive, but whose content suffers very much from being put
together by people who aren't coin nerds and who simply don't
understand what makes coin people "tick". Thus, The Numismatist's
articles tend towards the lowest common denominator, and I believe
that a lot of good speciality articles are not accepted. This past
lack of acceptance also discourages people, over time, from sending in
the better writing today. Like most organizations of its kind, the
ANA has a "Code of Ethics" which has little or no impact on the
activities it would propose to regulate (in this case, the functioning
of the coin marketplace and particularly the behavior of some of its
most marginal denizens).
Yes, you can collect coins without ever having any contact with the
ANA. But for the small annual dues, the ANA is quite worthwhile.
Providing a venue for people to meet, very good; hobby education, so-
so; hobby regulation, dicey. But overall, you wouldn't want the ANA
destroyed.
The ANA has got to find a "dyed-in-the-wool coin person" who has a
deep intuitive gut feeling about why coins are attractive as
historical and economic artifacts, and who can manage better than what
we have had in the now er long interval since Mr. Ed Rochette
retired. Mr. Rochette was often weary and cynical, but he was a
genuine coin person and is an example of what the ANA needs today.
oly
- Thirty-three year ANA member, attendee of numerous ANA conventions
since 1979 and attendee of seven or eight Summer Seminars
Bremick
Thanks for your insight, Oly. I can appreciate your loyalty to the ANA and
what you get from your membership. Having been a member/minor officer in
several collector clubs with national organizations, I eventually found it
just as enjoyable to collect and schmooze with others without the need of
the National. There always were many regional shows to go to without a
national membership requirement, and I still maintain the friends I had made
over the years. I would assume that's the case with coins. If I have to
pay more to travel to and attend a show than I would be apt to spend or make
there on collectibles, that's where I draw the line.
In retirement, I relish not having to worry about corporate politics in work
or hobbies. Watching neighbors spar over committee chairmanships in our
local development is bad enough. Unless one knows Larry as a friend or
associate, I can't understand why anyone else in the ANA would really be
concerned about the outcome of this incident, other than just a personal
moral conviction. Maybe I'm just talking about something that doesn't
concern me and I probably should stay out.
oly
> "oly" <oly2...@aol.com> wrote in message
Your thoughts are valuable and valid, Mr. R., and please keep them
coming. Happily, I have met and sometimes made the acquaintance of
some wonderfully brilliant successful coin collectors whom I never
ever would have met had I not gone to the annual big show or the
Summer Seminars. I've rarely made money directly out of these
expeditions, but the experiences and rubbed-off knowledge have made me
make some better coin buying choices later on.
oly
tcmitssr
slate.
1. Laura Sperber - already declared
2. Warren Mills - Simply the best
3. Don Willis - PCGS should know how to clean up the ANA
4. Harlan Berk - He just received the ANA's second most prestigious award,
who better
5. Doug Winter - Has the trust of many
6. Kathleen Duncan - Runs an honest company
7. Mr. Commem from this board - regular poster on the PCGS board
8. Gregg Bingham - a top collector and businessman
These are just the first names to easily pop into mind. I'm sure we can come
up with enough quality to assure that the present Board is completely voted
out of office in the next election.
Kasia
he did nothing wrong. The numismatic community overwhelming believes Larry.
What evidence does the ANA have against Larry. Obviously nothing, or they
would have stated what the reason was.
If Shepherd wants to let everyone "know" he was terminated, let him. If he
wants to state the facts the way he sees it, let him. The ANA also has the
right to state the facts as they see them, and let the members decide who is
telling the truth. By their continued silence and stonewalling, the ANA is
simply providing more and more evidence that there was no legitimate reason
to terminate Larry.