How to spot a fake Japanese trade dollar coin?

[varois83]

Hi

How do you spot a fake from a real of these large Japanese coin? An
example is below.

http://www.galata.co.uk/Articles/Dollar%20and%20Yen%20Forgeries.html

Thanks

Patrick

[oly]

The best "weigh" that I know of is to get a small electronic scale.
The fakes generally weigh 22 to 24 grams and the real ones weigh in at
almost exactly 27 grams.

Don't assume that the fakes are actually good silver, either - the
Chinese fakers know how to make them look really really good and
silvery, but they aren't that either. No Chinaman in their right mind
is going to sell 23 grams of silver for two or three bucks.

The quality of the fakes coming out of China today is terribly
disconcerting. And it seems that the American government, deeply in
debt to the Chinese, can't do poopey about it.

oly

[Mr. Jaggers]

I agree, and I have to echo your lamentation. The problem of fakes has
infiltrated the field of world coins to the extent that it is not safe to
buy anything of even moderate ticket unless it is certified, and now, in
addition, you have to somehow verify the authenticity of the certification.

James, Still Coveting Norwegian Speciedalers, but Alas...

[oly]

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As I have said in the past, I think that "provenance" will be more and
more important in numismatics as time passes, and the folks who don't
keep auction tickets and receipts will find themselves (or their
heirs) in a great pickle.

oly

[Mr. Jaggers]

Ask me if I give a damn. Go ahead, ask.

James the Profane

[Peter]

Actually some of the fake coins (not necessarily Japanese trade
dollars) are good silver. If they can sell a coin with $10 worth of
silver for $100, why would they use poor materials and miss a sale?

[varois83]

On Nov 10, 7:02 pm, oly <oly2...@aol.com> wrote:

> On Nov 9, 7:01 pm, varois83 <varoi...@netzero.net> wrote:
>
> > Hi
>
> > How do you spot a fake from a real of these large Japanese coin? An
> > example is below.
>
> >http://www.galata.co.uk/Articles/Dollar%20and%20Yen%20Forgeries.html
>
> > Thanks
>
> > Patrick
>
> The best "weigh" that I know of is to get a small electronic scale.
> The fakes generally weigh 22 to 24 grams and the real ones weigh in at
> almost exactly 27 grams.
>

Oly

Thanks a lot, I don't have a scale yet but will get one. That's a
great tip.

Thanks

Patrick