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Ira

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Sep 22, 2008, 9:01:51 PM9/22/08
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This is one of the newps made at the Long Beach show and it's a
beauty. I bought a real nice 1909-S VDB in PCGS MS-65RD as well, but
it sold within a couple of hours of posting on eBay.

Compared to the 1909 S VDB, this coin is legitimately rare in this
condition. There have been 736 1909-S VDBs in MS-65 Rd alone certified
by PCGS with about 174 finer. Compare this to the 1914-D which has
only 54 in MS-65RD with 3 finer. Very few were saved in top condition
by 1914, the novelty of a new design having worn off.

See this one at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1914-D-Lincoln-Cent-PCGS-MS-65-RD-PQ-Gem_W0QQitemZ250298813961

Thanks. More will be posted here in the coming weeks.

Voltronicus

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Sep 22, 2008, 9:08:13 PM9/22/08
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On Sep 22, 9:01 pm, Ira <ir...@aol.com> wrote:

> Thanks. More will be posted here in the coming weeks.

I'm sure we'll all be on needles and pins awaiting your next
bloviation.

som...@some.domain

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Sep 22, 2008, 9:54:32 PM9/22/08
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nicer than the reference books i have. the reverse strike is sweet.

Robert Dibbell

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Sep 23, 2008, 8:48:02 PM9/23/08
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That is a beautiful coin. I also looked at your other coins and I've always
wanted a colonial coin for my collection. Your Fugio Cent interests me.
I'd like some of the other experts (and I know who you are too) in this
group take a look at it and tell me what they think.

This is the link to that coin:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250298336729&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:Watchlink:middle:us

Thanks in advance.

Bob Dibbell

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Mr. Jaggers

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Sep 23, 2008, 8:59:31 PM9/23/08
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Robert Dibbell wrote:
> That is a beautiful coin. I also looked at your other coins and I've
> always wanted a colonial coin for my collection. Your Fugio Cent
> interests me. I'd like some of the other experts (and I know who you
> are too) in this group take a look at it and tell me what they think.
>
> This is the link to that coin:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250298336729&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:Watchlink:middle:us
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Bob Dibbell

The Fugio is a coin with an appealing and fascinating history, but it is not
truly a "Colonial." It's probably safe to say that there will never be
consensus as to the meaning of that word. Even the Redbook now divides the
pre-Federal period into "Colonial" and "Post-Colonial." I'd advise that you
read through the entire front material in the Redbook, that is, everything
up to the section on half cents. That way you will get a feel for the range
of items that are collected by collectors of "Colonials." If I sound as if
I'm talking in circles, it's because the pre-Federal period of numismatics
is so complex and convoluted.

As for the coin, as for any coin, you need to exercise the right combination
of knowledge, opportunity, and guts.

James


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Bruce Remick

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Sep 23, 2008, 9:45:54 PM9/23/08
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"Always Learning" <noPubl...@this.time> wrote in message
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> You're not allowed to discuss coins in here. You need to buy a Redbook
> and then never post questions here. This is what I've learned from 3
> posters here.

Make that 4. Congratulations! You've shown yourself to be a
super-sensitive boor in only one week.


Robert Dibbell

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Sep 24, 2008, 12:45:17 AM9/24/08
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James,

Thank you for your response. You are one of the members of this group who's
opinion I respect. I was being more "general" in my use of the term
colonial. I have wanted a coin from the late 1700's to add to my
collection. I guess since it's after 1776, it's really a USA coin. The
Fugio is one coin from that era that I have considered affordable enough.
To get an IRA coin just adds to the lustre.

Guts I have. Opportunity is here. I'm seeking a little more knowledge just
to assure myself that I am making a good purchase.

Bob

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Robert Dibbell

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Sep 24, 2008, 12:50:57 AM9/24/08
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Since you are "Always Learning", you may find some wisdom in the fact that
we have 2 eyes and 2 ears and only 1 mouth. We should spend four times as
much time reading and listening than we do talking. If you want to throw in
2 hands, then you should spend twice as much time reading and listening than
you do typing.

As a participant in this group for several years now, I have shown my true
colors and I have earned the respect of the other senior members of this
group. It seems to have taken you only a week to show the amounnt of
respect you deserve.

Bob.

Mr. Jaggers

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Sep 24, 2008, 5:10:09 AM9/24/08
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Robert Dibbell wrote:
> James,
>
> Thank you for your response. You are one of the members of this
> group who's opinion I respect. I was being more "general" in my use
> of the term colonial. I have wanted a coin from the late 1700's to
> add to my collection. I guess since it's after 1776, it's really a
> USA coin. The Fugio is one coin from that era that I have considered
> affordable enough. To get an IRA coin just adds to the lustre.
>
> Guts I have. Opportunity is here. I'm seeking a little more
> knowledge just to assure myself that I am making a good purchase.
>
> Bob

The first "Colonial" I ever bought was a Constellatio Nova dated 1785. I
didn't collect "Colonials" at the time, but had the opportunity to buy a
nice one, slabbed, at a show that was otherwise pretty slow for me. That
set in motion a slow progression of acquisition and learning that continues
to this day. This all really started to come into focus for me me just this
last spring and summer at a couple of the bigger shows where there were
"Colonial" specialists set up and I had a chance to talk extensively with
them. If you ever have a chance to sit down with Tom Rinaldo, jump at it.
He's one of the friendlist and most knowledgeable dealers anywhere and his
material is more vetted and affordable than just about anybody's. Later on
I sat down for about an hour with John Agre of CoinRaritiesOnline and picked
up lots of good info (and a couple coins!) from him. My (very tentative)
conclusion: A "Colonial" is any piece that anyone anywhere has ever
collected as a Colonial.

I get the impression that there have been some real knock-down, drag-out
arguments as to what is appropriate for inclusion in the Redbook. Over its
62 editions, more and more items have been added, with the latest ones
having been put there in the 2000 edition, a couple of French Regime pieces.
Breen "sort of" agrees with one of them, but puts the other in his
"wait-and-see" section, meaning that enough research hadn't yet been done to
suit him. Different people have their pet projects and do what they can to
convince Ken Bressett to include them. BTW, in spite of what you may think
of Breen, his Encyclopedia contains a wealth of historical background on
these coins.

The definitive work on Fugio cents was recently updated, and has photos of
all the known die pairs enlarged to several diameters. If you're interested
I can chase down the biblio info. But for the moment, a real, live Fugio is
available to you right now, and you just can't go wrong with a Fugio. Even
a quick read of the Redbook will tell you why. Whether this particular one
is for you is strictly your call.

James


note.boy

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Sep 24, 2008, 6:49:34 AM9/24/08
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You should change your name to "very slow learner". Billy


"Always Learning" <noPubl...@this.time> wrote in message
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> You're not allowed to discuss coins in here. You need to buy a Redbook
> and then never post questions here. This is what I've learned from 3
> posters here.
>
>

> On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:48:02 -0700, "Robert Dibbell"
> <bob.d...@nospam.comcast.net> wrote this stuff here :

Voltronicus

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Sep 24, 2008, 9:53:39 AM9/24/08
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On Sep 24, 12:45 am, "Robert Dibbell" <bob.dibb...@nospam.comcast.net>
wrote:

> To get an IRA coin just adds to the lustre.

You, sir, are an imbecile.

Voltronicus

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Sep 24, 2008, 2:33:13 PM9/24/08
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On Sep 24, 12:50 am, "Robert Dibbell" <bob.dibb...@nospam.comcast.net>
wrote:

> I have earned the respect of the other senior members of this
> group.  

That would be nice if there was, in fact, seniority is this or any
other Usenet group.
The Usenet is a democracy and quite egalitarian.

PC

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Sep 24, 2008, 3:25:26 PM9/24/08
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"Voltronicus" <fwd...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Actually if you put in enough years you have a chance at partnership.

Roger Hunt

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Sep 26, 2008, 3:15:23 PM9/26/08
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In article <osednTIPboOuCUfV...@comcast.com>, PC
<P...@Minneapolis.mn.us> writes

>
>The Usenet is a democracy and quite egalitarian.
>>>>
'Tisn't - it's an anarchy, which, broadly speaking, works wonderfully.
--
Roger Hunt

som...@some.domain

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Sep 26, 2008, 4:57:40 PM9/26/08
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anarchy doesn't mean no rules, it means no rulers.

Roger Hunt

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Sep 27, 2008, 7:25:34 AM9/27/08
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In article <81cDk.791139$3p2.6...@fe10.news.easynews.com>,
som...@some.domain writes

Quite. (Which is possibly why the big boys want to get rid of Usenet.)
--
Roger Hunt

som...@some.domain

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Sep 27, 2008, 12:38:56 PM9/27/08
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the riaa and asshole licking lackys want to because they can't suck money out
of it. they don't care about anything else and will do anything to get it.
they are below slime.

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