Our modern coinage and currency system I suggest
Malanutt 4 Life
a few good ideas.
Coinage
1c Abe Lincoln (Denomination could be dropped altogether)
2c John F. Kenedy Junior (Denomination could be droppd all together)
5c Thomas Jeffereson
10c Teddy Rosevelt
25c George Washington
50c John F. Kenedy
$1 Sacajawea (COIN)
$2 Martha Washington (COIN)
Currency
$5 Abe Lincoln
$10 Alexander Hamilton
$20 Andrew Jackson
$50 Ulysses Grant
$100 Ben Franklin
$200 Balto
$500 William McKinley
$1'000 Grover Cleavland (possibly reissue it)
This is how our currency should be set up,regardless of not liking the people I
put for the new denominations(especially Balto on the $200).I think we should
go to $1 and $2 coins.Actually a $5 coin would be nice too.And all
denominations of currency should be polymer notes.Can I get a few positive
remarks about this? Well shall soon see.
David Ryan
>
> 2c John F. Kenedy Junior (Denomination could be droppd all together)
> 5c Thomas Jeffereson
> 10c Teddy Rosevelt
> $1 Sacajawea (COIN)
How is it somebody can spell "Sacajawea" and miss Kennedy (twice),
Jefferson, Roosevelt and Cleveland?
Christian Feldhaus
> How is it somebody can spell "Sacajawea" and miss Kennedy (twice),
> Jefferson, Roosevelt and Cleveland?
Hmm, I'm not American but ... shouldn't it be "Sacagawea"? <g>
Christian
David Ryan
If you search Google, you will find both spellings used about equally.
It's a transliteration anyway.
cellular qwerty
Good idea.
As an aside, please remember that expressions like 'our currency' are
ambiguous an international newsgroup. The context shows that you are
referring to USA currency, so the rest of the world needs to translate
from USA-speak :-)
Anyway, following up your good idea, I have the following suggestions:
1. Standardise the intervals on '1, 2, 5'. The current 25c coin is an
anomaly.
2. Label the sub-dollar coins with the value in cents. The current 10c
and 25c coins do not do this. Although curiously, the Canadian
equivalents do.
3. Use size progression (at least in each value decade) to indicate
value progression. The current 5c and 10c coins do not do this.
4. Make all coins and notes easier to distinguish by sight and by
touch.
5. Use safe materials. Apparently this was a big concern with the
Euro.
J. Stone
Martha Washington? Why? She was probably a nice lady but I don't recall her
doing anything noteworthy.
Balto - the dog?
Arthur Hagen
> 1. Standardise the intervals on '1, 2, 5'. The current 25c coin is an
> anomaly.
Don't! We've lost our 25c coin with the introduction of the euro and I miss
it already :)
> 5. Use safe materials. Apparently this was a big concern with the
> Euro.
Yes, do away with nickel!
Arthur
George V. Huse, Jr.
--
Buzz Huse http://flashpages.prodigy.net/buzzhuse/
Euless, Texas, USA
"These opinions/comments are entirely my own and no one else's."
Arthur Hagen
> If we do away with nickel, what do we replace it with?
Plastics? I don't know, but it seems nickel is very very bad. I like nickel.
We (in The Netherlands) have used coins with nickel in them for over 50
years now (the US even much longer) and I never heard about any nickel
allergies before, but stories about nickel allergies popped up used lately
in attempts to demonise the euro ... remember the 'euros kill' discussion a
couple of weeks back? :)
Arthur
David Ryan
I don't have statistics at hand, but I suspect that choking on coins is
a far greater hazard. They should be made much larger :)
Malanutt 4 Life
up because this keyboard I have doesn't always show the letters I type.
I just put Martha Washington because I didn't remember any other famous females
to put on a $2 coin.
You are right.We don't need a 2 cent coin.But unless we get rid of the cent,I
would rather have a circulating 2 cent coin to reduce the use of the 1 cent
coin and how many I get in change.But I doubt a 2 cent coin would circulate.It
would probably be like the $2 FRN.
And yes,Balto the dog on my proposed $200 FRN.I know some of the people on this
newsgroup have seen me say this before.And its because of the fact that dogs
have served man for over 30,000 years,and they deserve a tribute like this.But
it may seem like a dumb idea to alot of people.
Michael G. Koerner
>
> Malanutt 4 Life wrote:
> >
> > 2c John F. Kenedy Junior (Denomination could be droppd all together)
> > 5c Thomas Jeffereson
> > 10c Teddy Rosevelt
> > 50c John F. Kenedy
> > $1 Sacajawea (COIN)
As more and more countries adopt the USA Dollar as their own, I could
see a 'Euro-style' concept for the coins here as well.
Make them the same compositions and denominations as they are now (so
that no reprogramming of anything would be needed), with a 'common'
design on one side and 'national' designs of the issuing country on the
other. For example, Panamanian coins are already functionally
interchangable with USA coins.
As for coins, I would do:
- 1¢ (but I would do as the Aussies and Finns and round final sales to
the nearest 5¢ here in the USA)
- 5¢
- 10¢
- 25¢
- 50¢
- $1
- $2 (similar in size and 'look' to the Canadian 'Twonie', but out of
different metals)
- $5
and for paper, 'my' notes would be (to be made out of plastic/polymers):
- $10
- $20
- $50
- $100
- $200
- $500
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Arthur Hagen wrote:
>
> "George V. Huse, Jr." schreef...
> > If we do away with nickel, what do we replace it with?
>
> Plastics? I don't know, but it seems nickel is very very bad. I like nickel.
> We (in The Netherlands) have used coins with nickel in them for over 50
> years now (the US even much longer) and I never heard about any nickel
> allergies before, but stories about nickel allergies popped up used lately
> in attempts to demonise the euro ... remember the 'euros kill' discussion a
> couple of weeks back? :)
Those sounded to me like 'anti-Euro' scare tactics by anti-Euro
partasians in Sweden. For some odd reason, Sweden is paranoid about
ANYTHING that might cause even the slightest harm to ANYBODY and those
people were milking that local custom.
The USA has used the EXACT SAME copper-nickel alloy (75% Cu/25% Ni) that
is used in the €1 and €2 coins for nearly 130 years with no known problems.
Arthur Hagen
> Arthur Hagen wrote:
> > "cellular qwerty" schreef...
> > > 1. Standardise the intervals on '1, 2, 5'. The current 25c coin is an
> > > anomaly.
> > Don't! We've lost our 25c coin with the introduction of the euro and I
miss
> > it already :)
> > > 5. Use safe materials. Apparently this was a big concern with the
> > > Euro.
> > Yes, do away with nickel!
>
> a far greater hazard. They should be made much larger :)
Yes! But not too large or you might hurt your back when picking up your
wallet :)
Just out of curiosity, would holes in coins reduce the risk of choking?
Arthur
Dave Allured
can once again put forth my rant about "conservative coinage design".
;-)
The gist is: Minimize the number of denominations; be considerate of
cashiers, the vending machine industry, retailers, and the whims of the
American public.
There is an enormous installed base of 5/5 slot cash registers in the
US. It's popular to use the fifth coin slot for misc. objects, leaving
only four slots for the coins. MY proposal is for only 4 coins: 10c 25c
$1 $5, with no change in dimensions for existing denoms.
Specific remarks embedded...
Malanutt 4 Life wrote:
>
> Now there the Euro has come out, we need to modernize
> OUR currency too. Here are a few good ideas.
>
> Coinage
> 1c Abe Lincoln (Denomination could be dropped altogether)
Yes please drop it. It's way overdue. The Europeans made a big mistake
including the 1c and 2c euros in their mintage. It is especially
ludicrous in the country(s?) that actually passed 5c rounding laws
BEFORE they started minting eur1c and eur2c coins. (Collectorage and
nostalgia, I suppose.)
> 2c John F. Kenedy Junior (Denomination could be droppd all together)
Please. The US stopped making 2c pieces in 1873, and for good reason.
> 5c Thomas Jeffereson
It's time to phase out the nickel. Too little value any more, waste of
good metal. Leave it out of a redesign.
> 10c Teddy Rosevelt
> 25c George Washington
> 50c John F. Kenedy
Nope. The 50c became unpopular in the 1960's. The spread with 25c and
$1 coins is fine for all retail and vending purposes.
> $1 Sacajawea (COIN)
> $2 Martha Washington (COIN)
No $2 coin. Go directly to $5, and start planning it NOW, for the sake
of the vending machine industry. There should be only one business coin
between $1 and $10; many cashiers have a hard time with "odd" money like
$2 bills; so go with the coin that matches the popular $5 bill.
IF the US makes the mistake of introducing a $2 coin, and IF the vending
industry accomodates it, then I will oppose a $5 coin for the same
reasons that I'm against continuing the 50c coin.
I recently saw an old-style vending machine that wanted $3 and took only
quarters. It would be very nice if it would vend for a $5 coin and drop
two Sacagawea's for change.
> Currency
Thank you for leaving the $1 and $2 bills off this list. (Apologies to
the $2 bill boosters out there. Lost cause. Switch to fivers, they're
not used enough today.)
> $5 Abe Lincoln
> $10 Alexander Hamilton
> $20 Andrew Jackson
> $50 Ulysses Grant
> $100 Ben Franklin
> $200 Balto
> $500 William McKinley
> $1'000 Grover Cleavland (possibly reissue it)
>
> This is how our currency should be set up,regardless of
> not liking the people I put for the new denominations
> (especially Balto on the $200). I think we should
> go to $1 and $2 coins. Actually a $5 coin would be nice too.
Really nice. $5, *not* $2.
> And all denominations of currency should be polymer
> notes. Can I get a few positive
> remarks about this? Well shall soon see.
(-: You have some nerve, asking Usenet for positive remarks! This
isn't Kansas, Dorothy!!!! (-: (-: (-: (-:
--Dave (-:
Arthur Hagen
> David Ryan wrote:
> > Malanutt 4 Life wrote:
> > >
> > > 2c John F. Kenedy Junior (Denomination could be droppd all together)
> > > 5c Thomas Jeffereson
> > > 10c Teddy Rosevelt
> > > 50c John F. Kenedy
> > > $1 Sacajawea (COIN)
>
> As more and more countries adopt the USA Dollar as their own, I could
> see a 'Euro-style' concept for the coins here as well.
You would have to be quite sure about the reliability of your new 'partners'
... for one you would need very strikt agreements about the number of coins
to be minted and banknotes to be printed. If not, what would restrain those
other countries from printing/minting more and more money at your expense
(inflation)?
Beside, you would like these 'partners' to have a simular (strong, reliable)
economy; or else people may be plagued by the same kind of concerns some
Northern Eurolanders have/had about Southeners ;)
Arthur
Dave Allured
I doubt that a dog will ever make it on a US note, unless there's one
that saves the life of the President or the Pope. ;-) However, there
are a couple conceivable ways that it might make it onto a coin.
Now we have precedent for changing one side of a standard issue, several
times a year. So the dog lobby might realistically be able to...
1. Influence a state quarter design to include a dog. Alsaka comes to
mind. Also, is there any state that is famous for duck hunting, and
nothing else at all??
2. Get the US to start periodic animal series on a regular issue,
perhaps at the end of the state quarters program. Something like
Canada's wildlife series.
Do you want to start talking about a periodic series on a US note? I
don't. The bill acceptor people would scream.
--Dave (-:
Malanutt 4 Life wrote:
>
> ... And yes,Balto the dog on my proposed $200 FRN.
> I know some of the people on this newsgroup have seen
> me say this before. And its because of the fact that
> dogs have served man for over 30,000 years,and they
> deserve a tribute like this. But it may seem like a
Michael G. Koerner
>
> Thank you, Malanutt. Since a new year has turned, and you started it, I
> can once again put forth my rant about "conservative coinage design".
> ;-)
>
> The gist is: Minimize the number of denominations; be considerate of
> cashiers, the vending machine industry, retailers, and the whims of the
> American public.
>
> There is an enormous installed base of 5/5 slot cash registers in the
> US. It's popular to use the fifth coin slot for misc. objects, leaving
> only four slots for the coins. MY proposal is for only 4 coins: 10c 25c
> $1 $5, with no change in dimensions for existing denoms.
How would you do 15¢?
You would have to drop the dime (10¢) and keep the nickel (5¢), unless
you can somehow replace the quarter (25¢) with a 20¢ coin.
Barry
Guess it's like Khaddafi and Qaddafi...
BTW, if he's such a hot shot, how come he's only a Colonel?
Barry
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J. Stone
from before the civil war. They were often shown guarding a safe (as a
symbol of security). I can think of a note from Michigan and one from New
Jersey that had
a portrait of the head of a dog as one of the main design elements. (a
great engraving job too).
Dave Allured
>
> Dave Allured wrote:
> >
> > ... MY proposal is for only 4 coins: 10c 25c
> > $1 $5, with no change in dimensions for existing denoms.
>
> How would you do 15¢?
1. Round up to 20c.
2. Customer tenders a quarter, and gets a dime back in change. But
this only works if the customer and the shopkeeper are in a good mood.
It's pretty complicated. ;-)
Note that of all possible prices ending in 5c, the only combinations
that you can't make directly from 10c and 25c are 5c and 15c. For
example, $1.15 is three 25c and four 10c.
You think that's a lotta dimes to carry around? How many pennies are in
your pocket right now, or on your table?
It has been quite a while since I had to pay 5c or 15c for anything.
A more realistic problem would be buying a 60c candy bar from a machine,
when you only had quarters. The machine would have to short you 5c on
the change, or pay an extra 5c which the vendors will of course not
allow.
You know what the right answer is here? GIMME MY CANDY BAR, I'M
HUNGRY. I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE EXTRA STEENKING NICKEL. (-: (-: Or
perhaps, if the geek (I am one such) who programs the micro 'puters
inside is really nice, it will tell you to put in another 25c so it can
give back 40c in change. Don't have an extra quarter? GIMME MY ...
(-:
> You would have to drop the dime (10¢) and keep the nickel (5¢), unless
> you can somehow replace the quarter (25¢) with a 20¢ coin.
Yikes. No thanks. (-:
David Ryan
>
> On Fri, 04 Jan 2002 09:52:09 GMT, David Ryan
> <bikerp...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Christian Feldhaus wrote:
> >>
> >> David Ryan <bikerp...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > How is it somebody can spell "Sacajawea" and miss Kennedy (twice),
> >> > Jefferson, Roosevelt and Cleveland?
> >>
> >> Hmm, I'm not American but ... shouldn't it be "Sacagawea"? <g>
> >>
> >> Christian
> >
> >If you search Google, you will find both spellings used about equally.
> >It's a transliteration anyway.
>
> Guess it's like Khaddafi and Qaddafi...
> BTW, if he's such a hot shot, how come he's only a Colonel?
A few years ago the major news organizations settled on Gaddafi.
The first sound is not quite like any of those English letters,
being like a hard G with a bit of a K in it. The same sound is
in Qatar, though the spelling hasn't been changed. I still think
the unique sound is best represented by the Q without the U that
always follows in English words. But it's the same,
transliteration from another alphabet.
Then there's Mao Tse-Tung and Mao Zedong, Peking and Beijing...
Christian Feldhaus
> If you search Google, you will find both spellings used about equally.
> It's a transliteration anyway.
Ah, thanks. So far I had only seen that one spelling (-g-), at the US
Mint web site ...
Christian
Christian Feldhaus
> The USA has used the EXACT SAME copper-nickel alloy (75% Cu/25% Ni) that
> is used in the €1 and €2 coins for nearly 130 years with no known problems.
According to a US Mint website that applies only to the 5c piece; the
other coins apparently contain less nickel:
<http://www.usmint.gov/faqs/circulating_coins/index.cfm?action=faq_circu
lating_coin>
As for the euro coins, the cent pieces (1 to 50 c) do not contain any
nickel. The 1 and 2 euro coins do, but only the "silverish" part
contains 25 percent nickel (the yellowish part contains 5 percent
AFAIK). It is primarily due to the requests of the vending machines
industry that there is some nickel in the coins at all.
Christian
Scott Stevenson
Feldhaus) wrote:
>Michael G. Koerner <mgk...@dataex.com> wrote:
>
>> The USA has used the EXACT SAME copper-nickel alloy (75% Cu/25% Ni) that
>> is used in the €1 and €2 coins for nearly 130 years with no known problems.
>
>According to a US Mint website that applies only to the 5c piece; the
>other coins apparently contain less nickel:
>
><http://www.usmint.gov/faqs/circulating_coins/index.cfm?action=faq_circu
>lating_coin>
Christian,
That's because they're a sandwich composition, and the core is pure
copper (10c through 50c)
The outer layers are 25% Ni, 75% Cu.
take care,
Scott
Mark Greene
>1. Standardise the intervals on '1, 2, 5'. The current 25c coin is an
>anomaly.
The quarter has been around for 225 years which hardly makes it an anomaly. And
if by "interval" you meant multiple of five, it meets that criteria.
>2. Label the sub-dollar coins with the value in cents
Learn the language and the culture, thank you.
>3. Use size progression (at least in each value decade) to indicate
>value progression. The current 5c and 10c coins do not do this.
A left-over from the days when dimes were silver.
>4. Make all coins and notes easier to distinguish by sight and by
>touch.
Get about $10 of various denominations of coins and put them in a paper bag.
Close your eyes, and one by one, pull them out and put them into piles by
denomination. Don't ponder and don't rush, just be fluid about it. Then open
your eyes and see how well you did. Then do it again, and don't be surprised
when you get it 100% correct the second time around.
Notes, OTOH, are a different story. Aside from different sizes, do you have any
suggestions?
>5. Use safe materials. Apparently this was a big concern with the
>Euro.
Don't believe everything you read about what is not safe, and don't eat your
coins and you'll do just fine.
--
mark
Quantum Express: When you absolutely, positively, don't know
where it's going or when it needs to be there. - RazorJAK in a.g.
Marada C. Shradrakaii
>remarks about this?
I wonder if we should bother with a wide array of denominations that go unused.
The 2 and 50 in particular languish, as does the 10 to an extent. Why not the
1-5-10-50-100-500-1000... model? The American refusal of 2c, 50c, and $1 coins
indicates they don't mind carrying around more coins than is necessary.
--
Marada Coeurfuege Shra'drakaii
There is a precedent for the DMCA and SSSCA. In 1896, the
Missouri-Kansas-Texas Railroad staged a train wreck and charged admission.
JSTONE9352
>> Guess it's like Khaddafi and Qaddafi...
>> BTW, if he's such a hot shot, how come he's only a Colonel?
I'm not sure but I think that was his military rank when he took over the
government in 1969. Since he took over
as a Colonel he might have felt he didn't
need to give himself a higher rank since
he was now calling all the shots anyway.
Dan Pon
> 1c Abe Lincoln (Denomination could be dropped altogether)
> 2c John F. Kenedy Junior (Denomination could be droppd all together)
he ever done?
> 5c Thomas Jeffereson
> 10c Teddy Rosevelt
Those are okay.
> 50c John F. Kenedy
I would drop the denomination altogether, but if we had to keep it,
maybe move Lincoln here.
> $1 Sacajawea (COIN)
Okay
> $2 Martha Washington (COIN)
Don't need this as we can't even get people to use the Sac.
>
> Currency
> $5 Abe Lincoln
> $10 Alexander Hamilton
> $20 Andrew Jackson
> $50 Ulysses Grant
> $100 Ben Franklin
> $200 Balto
notes.
note.boy
USA coins soon, a nice commemorative of the dog lifting its leg against
the tree on the Clinton quarters? :-) Billy
David Ryan
>
> Bill Clinton's dog has just been killed by a car so you may see a dog on
> USA coins soon, a nice commemorative of the dog lifting its leg against
> the tree on the Clinton quarters? :-) Billy
I don't know about that, but you could make a trading card series of
everyone around the Clintons who have died mysteriously :)
Mark Greene
>I don't know about that, but you could make a trading card series of
>everyone around the Clintons who have died mysteriously :)
52 names listed here--a complete deck of cards plus room for you-know-who as
the joker:
http://www.seebo.net/corpsect.html
Padraic Brown
>> $200 Balto
> Good idea.
I agree; and wouldn't mind seeing Lord Baltimore on a $200 note.
Sorry, 'bill'. ;)
> 1. Standardise the intervals on '1, 2, 5'. The current 25c coin is an
> anomaly.
Why bother with a 2c piece at all? Twice as worthless as a penny,
you might say.
> 2. Label the sub-dollar coins with the value in cents. The current 10c
> and 25c coins do not do this. Although curiously, the Canadian
> equivalents do.
Because "10c" is in and of itself anomalous. We (USA) have cents,
dimes and dollars as units of currency. (Technical nit pick!) Which
is why pennies and nickels are denominated in "cents", dimes in
"dimes". What's anomalous is marking quarters and halves in dollar
fractions. "25c" and "50c" would be better ("5 dimes" would be
cooler!).
> 3. Use size progression (at least in each value decade) to indicate
> value progression. The current 5c and 10c coins do not do this.
We do that already. The 5c piece is much larger than the 1c.
The double and a half dime and the quintuple dime are also
progressively larger than the dime. A doubloony at about the
size of the Canadian twoonie would be an appropriate next step.
A half eagle at about the size (and colour) of the pound would
also not be bad, though I think perhaps not quite as thick.
> 4. Make all coins and notes easier to distinguish by sight and by
> touch.
Coins are already easy to distinguish by touch.
> 5. Use safe materials. Apparently this was a big concern with the
> Euro.
CuNi clad over pure Cu is quite safe (i.e., rather difficult to
produce). Our (USA) paper could, of course, be made "safer".
Padraic.
--
Bethes gwaz vaz ha leal.
Padraic Brown
>> 5. Use safe materials. Apparently this was a big concern with the
>> Euro.
> Yes, do away with nickel!
Ah. One of those anti nickel nuts!
> Arthur
Stujoe
thusly...
> Arthur Hagen <hag...@hotmail.com> yscrifef:
>
> >> 5. Use safe materials. Apparently this was a big concern with the
> >> Euro.
>
> > Yes, do away with nickel!
>
> Ah. One of those anti nickel nuts!
Didn't the Six Million Dollar man have...oh, never mind. :-)
--
Stu Miller
The Stujoe Collection, established: 1999
RCC FAQ: http://www.telesphere.com/ts/coins/faq2.html
Bob Flaminio
news:a186gc$e6a$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu...
> What's anomalous is marking quarters and halves in dollar
Used to be. I wonder why they changed it...
-Bob
Arthur Hagen
> Arthur Hagen yscrifef:
>
> >> 5. Use safe materials. Apparently this was a big concern with the
> >> Euro.
>
> > Yes, do away with nickel!
>
> Ah. One of those anti nickel nuts!
:)
I've been collecting nickel coins for some 20 years now, so your remark
about me being nuts is correct. I must be nuts to continue handling and
storing such hazardous materials!
Arthur
Christian Feldhaus
> That's because they're a sandwich composition
OIC, thanks :-) Had not realized that ...
Christian
Fred A. Murphy
On 4-Jan-2002, prg...@aol.combustion (Mark Greene) wrote:
> >1. Standardise the intervals on '1, 2, 5'. The current 25c coin is an
> >anomaly.
>
> The quarter has been around for 225 years which hardly makes it an
> anomaly. And if by "interval" you meant multiple of five, it meets that
> criteria.
There is no 2.5¢ piece, $2.50, $25 or $250 note, and that makes it an
anomaly.
Our *decimal* system of money is based on intervals of ten, not five.
Quarters are based on a system of fourths, from the old Spanish milled
dollars.
Not that I expect stubborn people to change to something that makes sense.
They're still making tri-fold wallets, even though they last made the notes
that fit in them in 1928.
--
The most effective way to get information from usenet is not to ask
a question; it is to post incorrect information. -- Aahz's Law
Mark Greene
>On 4-Jan-2002, prg...@aol.combustion (Mark Greene) wrote:
>> The quarter has been around for 225 years which hardly makes it an
>> anomaly. And if by "interval" you meant multiple of five, it meets that
>> criteria.
>There is no 2.5¢ piece, $2.50, $25 or $250 note, and that makes it an
>anomaly.
There used to be a $2.50 coin, from 1796 - 1929. I wish they'd bring back the
Indian design that was last used on them too. It had one of the best eagles on
US coinage, aside from the one on the flying eagle cent, IMO.
>Our *decimal* system of money is based on intervals of ten, not five.
>Quarters are based on a system of fourths, from the old Spanish milled
>dollars.
I know the history, it seems that the original poster did not or was ignoring
it. Our system of coinage is based on 100 cents per dollar. The mint act of
1792 listed specific denominations, and both the quarter dollar and the $2.50
gold piece were listed.
While looking for the text of the Mint Act (which I never did find complete at
any one web site), I found this site with an editoral on the then proposed
state quarter program:
http://the-tech.mit.edu/V117/N32/hove.32c.html
which is an amusing read in retrospect.
>They're still making tri-fold wallets, even though they last made the notes
>that fit in them in 1928.
Fold the bills and insert them vertically into the center fold, they should fit
just fine. I personally don't like them, but for guys who like to carry their
wallet in their inside jacket pocket, they are less bulky than a bi-fold.
Fred A. Murphy
On 7-Jan-2002, prg...@aol.combustion (Mark Greene) wrote:
> >There is no 2.5¢ piece, $2.50, $25 or $250 note, and that makes it an
> >anomaly.
>
> There used to be a $2.50 coin, from 1796 - 1929.
OK, so you're one for four.
They've made $2 notes since 1862, also 2¢ pieces, 20¢ pieces, and $20 notes.
This would still indicate that it would be more sensible, in a decimal
system, to have a 20¢ piece instead of a quarter.
Padraic Brown
>>From: "Fred A. Murphy" bigg...@NOSPAMameritech.net
>>They're still making tri-fold wallets, even though they last made the notes
>>that fit in them in 1928.
> Fold the bills and insert them vertically into the center fold, they
> should fit just fine. I personally don't like them, but for guys who
> like to carry their wallet in their inside jacket pocket, they are
> less bulky than a bi-fold.
The extra length of trifolds makes for extra storage for
guys who use them as a combination daily planner and file
cabinet.
Padraic.
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Gwerez dah, chee gwaz vaz, ha leal.
Mark Greene
>This would still indicate that it would be more sensible, in a decimal
>system, to have a 20¢ piece instead of a quarter.
But we don't have a "pure" decimal system, and never have. Jefferson lost that
arguement over 210 years ago, and we've continued to have the quarter ever
since. The original poster called that anomalous--except if the system was
designed that way from the beginning.
Michael G. Koerner
>
> >From: "Fred A. Murphy" bigg...@NOSPAMameritech.net
>
> >This would still indicate that it would be more sensible, in a decimal
> >system, to have a 20¢ piece instead of a quarter.
>
> But we don't have a "pure" decimal system, and never have. Jefferson lost that
> arguement over 210 years ago, and we've continued to have the quarter ever
> since. The original poster called that anomalous--except if the system was
> designed that way from the beginning.
Only within the past 2 years have we rid ourselves of that highly
CONFUSING mess of 'binary' fractions in our stock market pricing. The
USA was the last to make that conversion.
Much to his chagrin (if he were still alive), we have had to put up with
our current measuring mish-mash ever since his administration, too.
Thomas Jefferson came within one vote in Congress of fully adopting the
then newly developed French system of 'decimalized' weights and measures
(now known as 'SI' or 'metric').
None the less, the USA was the *FIRST* country to divide its main unit
of exchange into an even 100 subunits ('cents').
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Fred A. Murphy
On 7-Jan-2002, prg...@aol.combustion (Mark Greene) wrote:
> But we don't have a "pure" decimal system, and never have. Jefferson lost
> that
> arguement over 210 years ago, and we've continued to have the quarter ever
> since. The original poster called that anomalous--except if the system
> was designed that way from the beginning.
The original system was for dollars, dismes, cents, and mills. Quarters
weren't introduced until four years later.
Even if you design a chicken farm to include a peacock, the peacock is still
anomalous.
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Fred A. Murphy
On 7-Jan-2002, Padraic Brown <agri...@rac4.wam.umd.edu> wrote:
> The extra length of trifolds makes for extra storage for
> guys who use them as a combination daily planner and file
> cabinet.
So do knapsacks, but that doesn't mean they were designed to carry current
notes. :^)
Phil DeMayo
>>> The original system was for dollars, dismes, cents, and mills. Quarters
weren't introduced until four years later....<<<
The same year as the dimes.
++++++++++
Phil DeMayo
When bidding online
Always sit on your helmet
Marada C. Shradrakaii
>None the less, the USA was the *FIRST* country to divide its main unit
>of exchange into an even 100 subunits ('cents').
:ahem:
The Russian system of 100 kopecks to the rouble predates the United States.
Mark Greene
>Only within the past 2 years have we rid ourselves of that highly
>CONFUSING mess of 'binary' fractions in our stock market pricing.
Confusing only if you didn't know that 1/2 was 50 cents, 1/4 was 25 cents, 1/8
was 12 and a half cents, etc.
And can that old system correctly be called binary fractions? Example:
http://www.theteacher.freeserve.co.uk/alevel/c4/16_6.htm
>Thomas Jefferson came within one vote in Congress of fully adopting the
>then newly developed French system of 'decimalized' weights and measures
>(now known as 'SI' or 'metric').
>
boycott the metric system, 'cause we don't need a foriegn ruler. --------> :-)
Fred A. Murphy
On 8-Jan-2002, flip...@aol.computer (Phil DeMayo) wrote:
> "Fred A. Murphy" wrote:
>
> >>> The original system was for dollars, dismes, cents, and mills.
> >>> Quarters weren't introduced until four years later....<<<
>
> The same year as the dimes.
Argue with the Redbook. They call the 1792 dimes coins and the 1792 quarter
a pattern.