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Ira

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Oct 14, 2008, 6:32:23 PM10/14/08
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Hi Bob. Still have an interst in that PCGS AU-55 Fugio Cent? If so,
please either call or e-mail. My phone no. is in all my eBay auctions.

Ira

Voltronicus

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Oct 14, 2008, 6:58:08 PM10/14/08
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Poor Ira, so desperate for money he is reduced to begging for sales in
RCC.

Robert Dibbell

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Oct 14, 2008, 8:57:25 PM10/14/08
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No he's not desperate. This forum is a quick way to contact regular
readers.

Now--go away, please

Bob

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oly

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Oct 14, 2008, 9:34:37 PM10/14/08
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Yes, RF, the purveyors of luxury goods are in a world of hurt. Only
going to get worse. Money that they make now might have to last them
a long time. Pity (NOT).

Reminds me of stories I was told about art dealers in Paris in late
1929 who had showrooms full of expensive modern art.

oly

Voltronicus

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Oct 14, 2008, 10:58:14 PM10/14/08
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On Oct 14, 8:57 pm, "Robert Dibbell" <bob.dibb...@nospam.comcast.net>
wrote:

> No he's not desperate.  This forum is a quick way to contact regular
> readers.
>
> Now--go away, please

Guess Ira the "professional numismatist" never heard of email, right?
Now shut the fuck up!

Ira

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Oct 15, 2008, 7:18:38 AM10/15/08
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I suspect yacht, home sales and Lexus sales have softened, but I've
seen no
evidence in the sales of key dates in popular series or in early type
coins
at all. Just the opposite, in fact. Just shipped a $65,000 1796 half
and that
MS 65 Rd 1914-D cent. I think many believe coins like these are a
relatively
safe haven. So no, Olsen, I'm not in a world of hurt. Are you?

Ira

Voltronicus

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Oct 15, 2008, 8:21:47 AM10/15/08
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On Oct 15, 7:18 am, Ira <ir...@aol.com> wrote:

> I suspect yacht, home sales and Lexus sales have softened, but I've
> seen no
> evidence in the sales of key dates in popular series or in early type
> coins
> at all. Just the opposite, in fact. Just shipped a $65,000 1796 half
> and that
> MS 65 Rd 1914-D cent. I think many believe coins like these are a
> relatively
> safe haven. So no, Olsen, I'm not in a world of hurt. Are you?

That's it Stein, brag about your money - it's all you have.

Ira

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Oct 15, 2008, 11:47:51 AM10/15/08
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Is that really the BEST you can do Robert Finnan of Seacliff, NY?
Fitst you write that I must be DESPERATE
for money to post "ping" messages on RCC. Then, when that's shown to
be untrue, you post that I'm bragging about my money!

I don't remember posting anything about my assets. What I am RICH in
is a loving wife and family, children and grandchildren who love me,
and a wide circle of dear friends I'm in close contact with and have
been for years.

What to YOU have, Finnan? An odd fascination with the adventures of
the Hardy boys? Odd indeed that a grown man finds the activities of
prepubescent and young adolescent boys so compelling. Well, to each
his own I guess.

You Finnan are a lonely, mean-spirited misanthrope who gets aroused by
insulting people on internet newsgroups. Sad indeed. Especially when
you consider how little your insults affect the people here other than
cement their opinions of you. Oh I forgot. You DO have a friend here
who posts by the name Oly. although he's an arrogant and pompous know-
it-all, a legend in his own mind, he is far more intelligent than you
are, Finnan.

Ira

Voltronicus

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Oct 15, 2008, 12:00:40 PM10/15/08
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On Oct 15, 11:47 am, Ira <ir...@aol.com> wrote:

> Is that really the BEST you can do Robert Finnan of Seacliff, NY?
> Fitst you write that I must be DESPERATE
> for money to post "ping" messages on RCC. Then, when that's shown to
> be untrue, you post that I'm bragging about my money!

Where was it shown to be untrue, you money-grubbing parasite?
Do you deny constantly trumpeting your sales of expensive coins?
Do you have the gall and effrontery to do that?


> What to YOU have, Finnan? An odd fascination with the adventures of
> the Hardy boys? Odd indeed that a grown man finds the activities of
> prepubescent and young adolescent boys so compelling. Well, to each
> his own I guess.

Oh, snap! Guess you're insulting the almost 1000 adult members of my
Hardy Boys discussion group too, right? Stick to what you know about,
Stein - money-grubbing.


> You Finnan are a lonely, mean-spirited misanthrope who gets aroused by
> insulting people on internet newsgroups. Sad indeed. Especially when
> you consider how little your insults affect the people here other than
> cement their opinions of you.

They seem to affect you, Stein. Is it perhaps you recognize the truth
in my posts about you? That you are a petty little money-grubber. At
any rate, I'm neither lonely nor mean-spirited, I just don't like you,
you big bag of wind.

> Oh I forgot. You DO have a friend here
> who posts by the name Oly. although he's an arrogant and pompous know-
> it-all, a legend in his own mind, he is far more intelligent than you
> are, Finnan.

Perhaps, but in any event both Oly and I exceed you in the
intelligence department.

Bill Krummel

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Oct 15, 2008, 1:02:36 PM10/15/08
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"Voltronicus" <fwd...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Oct 15, 11:47 am, Ira <ir...@aol.com> wrote:

> Is that really the BEST you can do Robert Finnan of Seacliff, NY?
> Fitst you write that I must be DESPERATE
> for money to post "ping" messages on RCC. Then, when that's shown to
> be untrue, you post that I'm bragging about my money!

Where was it shown to be untrue, you money-grubbing parasite?
Do you deny constantly trumpeting your sales of expensive coins?
Do you have the gall and effrontery to do that?


> What to YOU have, Finnan? An odd fascination with the adventures of
> the Hardy boys? Odd indeed that a grown man finds the activities of
> prepubescent and young adolescent boys so compelling. Well, to each
> his own I guess.

Oh, snap! Guess you're insulting the almost 1000 adult members of my
Hardy Boys discussion group too, right? Stick to what you know about,
Stein - money-grubbing.


> You Finnan are a lonely, mean-spirited misanthrope who gets aroused by
> insulting people on internet newsgroups. Sad indeed. Especially when
> you consider how little your insults affect the people here other than
> cement their opinions of you.

They seem to affect you, Stein. Is it perhaps you recognize the truth
in my posts about you? That you are a petty little money-grubber. At
any rate, I'm neither lonely nor mean-spirited, I just don't like you,
you big bag of wind.

I don't know a thing about how lonely you are but the content of many of
your posts do suggest extreme mean spiritedness. I have yet to figure out a
better explanation.

Bill


Voltronicus

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Oct 15, 2008, 1:38:55 PM10/15/08
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On Oct 15, 1:02 pm, "Bill Krummel" <dqu...@netins.net> wrote:

> I don't know a thing about how lonely you are but the content of many of
> your posts do suggest extreme mean spiritedness.  I have yet to figure out a
> better explanation.

Perhaps it's an intolerance for cupidity, stupidity and pomposity.

PC

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Oct 15, 2008, 2:14:33 PM10/15/08
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"Ira" <ir...@aol.com> wrote in message
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On Oct 14, 9:34 pm, oly <oly2...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Oct 14, 5:58 pm, Voltronicus <fwdi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Oct 14, 6:32 pm, Ira <ir...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > Hi Bob. Still have an interst in that PCGS AU-55 Fugio Cent? If so,
> > > please either call or e-mail. My phone no. is in all my eBay auctions.
>
> > > Ira
>
> > Poor Ira, so desperate for money he is reduced to begging for sales in
> > RCC.
>
> Yes, RF, the purveyors of luxury goods are in a world of hurt. Only
> going to get worse. Money that they make now might have to last them
> a long time. Pity (NOT).
>
> Reminds me of stories I was told about art dealers in Paris in late
> 1929 who had showrooms full of expensive modern art.
>
> oly

I suspect yacht, home sales and Lexus sales have softened, but I've
>>>

Hummers wayyyyy down...


oly

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Oct 15, 2008, 7:31:59 PM10/15/08
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I have avoided saying this for a long time, but Ira has went to the ad
hominums today.

Very frankly Ira, you're a p*mp. You prostitute coins. I suppose
it's in your blood.

And the humorous thing is that you always seem to lack a certain
confidence in your wares. It's hard to pinpoint, but its always
there, not far from the surface. It's like your coins are hot
potatoes and they must be disposed of instantaneously. Like the time
you got up in the middle of the night to pee (your explaination) and
started pinging potential buyers here on RCC at 2 AM. If your stuff
is that good and that eternally valuable, why the exageration, why the
hyperbole, why the constant histronics???

Answer: you yourself have no confidence in the girls that you are
p*mping.

And I just wish that you would go and p*mp on another corner.

People who sold Lehman Brothers common stock thought it was a
relatively safe haven. People who sold Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
common and preferred stock thought it was a 100% sure thing. Most
people who sell for a living believe their own tall tales. Perhaps
your histronics relate to some recent personal losses in the stock and
bond markets, eh Ira??? That would be amusing.

Now, if true to form, Ira will start threatening lawsuits. Be sure to
print this thread out too.

RF may be crazy, he may be delusional, he could smell a bit for all I
know. I know that I do. But I like him because he is a fellow coin
collector, who appreciates coins as historical and artistic items, who
doesn't seem to see coins as just one big chance to hornswoggle
another man - and I would gladly buy him a drink or two if we ever hit
the same coin show at the same time.

oly

Robert Dibbell

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Oct 15, 2008, 7:39:14 PM10/15/08
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"Voltronicus" wrote that Ira must be DESPERATE for money to post "ping"
messages on RCC.

"Ira" responded that when that statement was shown to be untrue,
"Voltronicus" responded by questioning when that statement was proved to be
untrue.

If "Voltronicus" could take a moment and wipe the saliva away from his mouth
and the excess that probably splashed in his eyes, and re-read my response
to his post, he would see that my response addressed the subject of pinging
me in this newsgroup.

This ping was directed to me and me alone. I had expressed a previous
interest to Ira regarding the coin he mentioned. Rather than search through
eBay history, Ira took the shortcut of contacting me via RCC. Since the
subject matter concerned the Fugio Cent, he included that fact in the ping.

I do not need protection from any members in the newsgroup. I do not need
volunteers to protect me either.

Thank you. Now please go and perform the same act you invited me to
perform.


oly

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Oct 15, 2008, 7:44:35 PM10/15/08
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On Oct 15, 6:39 pm, "Robert Dibbell" <bob.dibb...@nospam.comcast.net>
wrote:

Wouldn't it be rather easier if the almighty Ira-weh had your phone
number and the other 1,004 members of this group didn't have to be
bothered with the ping?

oly

Voltronicus

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Oct 15, 2008, 8:34:39 PM10/15/08
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On Oct 15, 7:39 pm, "Robert Dibbell" <bob.dibb...@nospam.comcast.net>
wrote:

> This ping was directed to me and me alone.  

This is a public forum, dipshit, er I mean Dibble.
If Stein wanted privacy, he could have easily contacted you by email.
That he didn't is just another example of his endless hawking of his
ware.

Voltronicus

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Oct 15, 2008, 8:41:40 PM10/15/08
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> Very frankly Ira, you're a p*mp.  You prostitute coins.  I suppose
> it's in your blood.


"Tataglia is a pimp." - Don Vito Corleone

PC

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Oct 16, 2008, 9:50:50 AM10/16/08
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"oly" <oly...@aol.com> wrote in message
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On Oct 15, 6:39 pm, "Robert Dibbell" <bob.dibb...@nospam.comcast.net>
wrote:

Wouldn't it be rather easier if the almighty Ira-weh had your phone


number and the other 1,004 members of this group didn't have to be
bothered with the ping?
>>

I was quite bothered with it! Oohh I am just hopping made an the
inconvenience of having to mark *yet* another post as read because it
doesn't interest me. This has me PISSED off.

sheesh...

Robert Dibbell

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Oct 16, 2008, 8:32:13 PM10/16/08
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I guess hitting <CTL> T is difficult for you. I do apologize to you and to
everyone else in the newsgroup.

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Nomen Nescio

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Oct 16, 2008, 9:40:03 PM10/16/08
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Boborino sobered up enough to babble:

> On Oct 15, 7:39 pm, "Robert Dibbell" <bob.dibb...@nospam.comcast.net>
> wrote:

> > > This ping was directed to me and me alone.

> This is a public forum, dipshit, er I mean Dibble.
> If Stein wanted privacy, he could have easily contacted you by email.
> That he didn't is just another example of his endless hawking of his
> ware.

Next time Bob. Next time succeed in the suicide thing instead of living life as a drooling whiny blot on society. A society paying to keep you alive, I might add. Now there's a waste of the taxpayers dollars.

Ira

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Oct 17, 2008, 12:51:09 PM10/17/08
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Nomen Nescio, another anonymous moron heard from. You've got good
company in Oly and Vomitus.

Ira

oly

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Oct 17, 2008, 1:28:33 PM10/17/08
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Hiyah Ira!!! Missed you during your latest little huff - about 36
blessed hours of silence out of the Rochester 'burbs.

Me and Volty sure seem to take up a lot of your thoughts. Me and
Volty might be morons, but we're hardly anonymous. Perhaps you don't
know what that word means either.

oly

Ira

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Oct 17, 2008, 2:48:20 PM10/17/08
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You didn't read that right, Olson. Noman Numbnutzio is anonymous. You
and Vomitus are not anonymous, merely morons. . Wanted to make that
clear.

Ira

oly

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Oct 17, 2008, 3:39:41 PM10/17/08
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> Ira- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Hiyah Ira!!!

I would rather be a moron than an Enron.

The "rare-in this-condition" U.S. coin market strikes me as Enron-
esque. In the sense that skinning the whole world is rather more
important than sustainability or morality.

Besides Tataglia Stein, perhaps we can call you Ken Lay Stein.

oly

Robert Dibbell

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Oct 17, 2008, 10:00:44 PM10/17/08
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> Next time Bob. Next time succeed in the suicide thing instead of living
> life as a drooling whiny blot on society. A society paying to keep you
> alive, I might add. Now there's a waste of the taxpayers dollars.

Gee, I missed this one. I should say I've never attempted suicide and I
likely pay more in taxes each year than you earn. I'm one of the 5% of the
taxpayers who pay the way for everyone who earns less than $40,000 a year
and pays NO taxes.

Bob


oly

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Oct 18, 2008, 2:46:55 AM10/18/08
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On Oct 17, 9:00 pm, "Robert Dibbell" <bob.dibb...@nospam.comcast.net>
wrote:

DOH!!!

The first thing that is checked out is how much another fellow is
worth. Before you are ever asked what collectables you might be
interested in. Poor people don't get pinged.

I knew who the suicide reference was to, and yes, it was made/written
in a highly confusing manner.

Is your real name being used when the pings are sent out, Mr.
Dibbell??? A word to the wise, that can be dangerous, as you are
admitting here that you are wealthy and have a penchant for
considering the purchase of valuable coins.

I don't think I've ever met anybody named Dibbell, so perhaps it is a
psuedonym.

4 out of 5 times it is possible to find a coin collector (or anybody
else who is a legit, stable citizen) using Google and Public Records
if there is just a smidgen of information to start with.

oly

mazorj

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Oct 18, 2008, 9:02:44 AM10/18/08
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"oly" <oly...@aol.com> wrote in message
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...


< Is your real name being used when the pings are sent out, Mr.
Dibbell??? A word to the wise, that can be dangerous, as you are
admitting here that you are wealthy and have a penchant for
considering the purchase of valuable coins.
<
< I don't think I've ever met anybody named Dibbell, so perhaps it is
a psuedonym.

That's pretty solipsistic of you, oly. Google "Dibbell" and you get
80,000 hits. Filter out "Julian" and it's still almost 30,000. Lotsa
Dibbells out there.

< 4 out of 5 times it is possible to find a coin collector (or anybody
else who is a legit, stable citizen) using Google and Public Records
if there is just a smidgen of information to start with.

Just ask Joe the Plumber. But plumbing the depths of newsgroup
headers is not likely to reveal enough information to pin down
Dibbell's address. OTOH, many regulars here have revealed (or had
revealed for them) enough information to narrow the search for their
coin caches using public records. Fortunately, most thieves aren't
industrious enough to do all that work. (Especially the part about
wading through all the newsgroup bickering to dredge up a nugget or
two of personal information.) You're far more at risk from a random
break-in, or at the worst, being trailed from a coin show.

Speaking of which, a truly industrious coin thief would do it
wholesale rather than retail. Buy a table under a false identity, set
out a few offerings, a bogus free newsletter, and a drawing for a free
item. Everyone who provides their name and address for the drawing or
to subscribe to the non-existent newsletter has just volunteered to be
burgled. It would work just as well for other expensive collectibles.
Or your perfectly law-abiding dealer could lose his lists or have them
hacked. Such scenarios are not worth losing sleep over, but they're
not impossible.


oly

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Oct 18, 2008, 10:30:21 AM10/18/08
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On Oct 18, 8:02 am, "mazorj" <maz...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "oly" <oly2...@aol.com> wrote in message

Why would a thief do all that? I probably have all the dealer and
registration information from a half-dozen large coins shows since
2001. The organizers leave all that stuff laying out during and after
the shows. Anybody can pick it up.

oly

mazorj

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Oct 18, 2008, 11:25:58 AM10/18/08
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"oly" <oly...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Dealer info is one thing, customer data is another. Having done so
myself, I can understand leaving promo material behind at shows, but
leaving behind lists of customer names/addresses? Really? And any
lists should be compiled by filling out a small form that gets tucked
away out of sight, not on a sign-in sheet like they have at doctor's
offices. I avoid putting my information on those, or use a work
address.


Robert Dibbell

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Oct 21, 2008, 9:07:52 PM10/21/08
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Dibbell has been a surname in this country since the mid-1700's when Amos
Dibbell moved to the Hunter, NY area. He changed the spelling of his name
when he moved there. Why he changed it is still a mystery for most people
in that era were notoriously poor spellers. Within my family tree are a
variety of spellings for Dibbell.

If you have ever watched documentary shows about the construction of the
Erie Canal, they mention one of the engineers who helped design it. His
name was Orange Dibbell. He was a second or third cousin to my grandfather.

Julian is one of the more contemporary famous people in our collective
family tree. Do enough digging and you'll probably find a few scoundrels as
well.

Do I fear identity theft because I am not afraid to use my real name? No,
because I have nothing to hide, unlike some of those who populate this
newsgroup with their assorted ranting and ravings. In fact, it's usually
easier to find out stuff about people when they try to hide the truth. If
you ever do discover an address of mine somewhere online, it will likely be
only a post office box because that's what I use for an address. I live in
a quiet rural community where we all have our own dobermans and strongly
believe in the 2nd amendment.

Nuf said.

Bob


oly

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Oct 21, 2008, 10:07:17 PM10/21/08
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On Oct 21, 8:07 pm, "Robert Dibbell" <bob.dibb...@nospam.comcast.net>
wrote:

Well, based upon what you just said, your father's name was/is Frank
Milford Dibbell, your name is Robert Jeffrey Dibbell, year of birth
1952, you had/have three brothers, you married a Deanna Lynn Steele,
and have one son a Robert Jeffrey Dibbell Jr. (who may have recently
graduated from Ogden-Weber Technical College, Ogden, Utah). You had a
grandfather Frank Dibbell who died in 1963. You lived in Utah for 16
years and went back to California about 3 years ago. It appears that
you work for Lockheed Martin and have a tax preperations service of
some sort. You went to Peterson High, Santa Clara, California. You
have a beard. I am sorry to find that your wife died this last 12
April.

That took about 5 minutes on the internet. Is any of that close???
Your statement of descent from Amos Dibbell was the key. Your high
school website was very helpful. Inordinate interest in genealogy
often points one towards Utah.

oly

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