Ebay vs Yahoo vs Bidvalley
George Drum
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=243752238
80 Hits 6 bids 6 bidders $35.00 current bid
and one warning from ebay that choice auctions were against the rules.
http://auctions.yahoo.com/auction/16104300
44 hits 4 bids ? bidders $31.00 current bid
http://www.bidvalley.com/listings/details/index.cfm?itemnum=948689374
? hits 11 bids 4 bidders $27.75 current bid.
So far as you can see ebay is ahead.
Some how the link to the pic got lost on Bidvalley and they are having
trouble fixing it.
To early to tell really anything as the bidding aint done till the bell
rings.
Just thought you might be interested. Has anyone else run this type of
test and how did it turn out.
George.
George Drum
George Drum wrote:
>
> One day left and here are the standings.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=243752238
> 80 Hits 6 bids 6 bidders $35.00 current bid
>
> and one warning from ebay that choice auctions were against the rules.
2 hours left 128 hits 6 bids 6 bidders $35.00
>
> http://auctions.yahoo.com/auction/16104300
> 44 hits 4 bids ? bidders $31.00 current bid
3 hours 66 hits 5 bids ? bidders $32.00
>
> http://www.bidvalley.com/listings/details/index.cfm?itemnum=948689374
> ? hits 11 bids 4 bidders $27.75 current bid.
>
7 hours Hits ? 13 bids 5 bidders & 36.25
bid valley is inching ahead sniper time still to come on all
> So far as you can see ebay is ahead.
Bid valley is inching ahead
George Drum
George Drum wrote:
>
> George Drum wrote:
> >
> > One day left and here are the standings.
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=243752238
> > 80 Hits 6 bids 6 bidders $35.00 current bid
> >
> > and one warning from ebay that choice auctions were against the rules.
>
> 2 hours left 128 hits 6 bids 6 bidders $35.00
>
FINAL 159 hits 10 bids $39.50
> >
> > http://auctions.yahoo.com/auction/16104300
> > 44 hits 4 bids ? bidders $31.00 current bid
>
> 3 hours 66 hits 5 bids ? bidders $32.00
FINAL 75 hits 6 bids $33.00
> > http://www.bidvalley.com/listings/details/index.cfm?itemnum=948689374
> > ? hits 11 bids 4 bidders $27.75 current bid.
> >
> 7 hours Hits ? 13 bids 5 bidders & 36.25
FINAL 13 bids $36.75
> > Just thought you might be interested. Has anyone else run this type of
> > test and how did it turn out.
> >
> > George.
I will run this Test again soon with another product. if anyone is
interested in the results please post it here otherwise I will not waist
the bandwidth.
George
Stujoe
says...
> I will run this Test again soon with another product. if anyone is
> interested in the results please post it here otherwise I will not waist
> the bandwidth.
I think it is interesting and I also like people to post their auctions.
--
Stu Miller
http://stujoe.tripod.com
Time sure flies when you don't know what you are doing...
note.boy
again. Billy
George Drum wrote:
> George Drum wrote:
> >
> > George Drum wrote:
> > >
> > > One day left and here are the standings.
> > >
> > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=243752238
> > > 80 Hits 6 bids 6 bidders $35.00 current bid
> > >
> > > and one warning from ebay that choice auctions were against the rules.
> >
> > 2 hours left 128 hits 6 bids 6 bidders $35.00
> >
> FINAL 159 hits 10 bids $39.50
>
> > >
> > > http://auctions.yahoo.com/auction/16104300
> > > 44 hits 4 bids ? bidders $31.00 current bid
> >
> > 3 hours 66 hits 5 bids ? bidders $32.00
>
> FINAL 75 hits 6 bids $33.00
>
> > > http://www.bidvalley.com/listings/details/index.cfm?itemnum=948689374
> > > ? hits 11 bids 4 bidders $27.75 current bid.
> > >
> > 7 hours Hits ? 13 bids 5 bidders & 36.25
>
> FINAL 13 bids $36.75
>
> > > Just thought you might be interested. Has anyone else run this type of
> > > test and how did it turn out.
> > >
> > > George.
>
> I will run this Test again soon with another product. if anyone is
> interested in the results please post it here otherwise I will not waist
> the bandwidth.
>
> George
David Gierl
Dave
Fred A. Murphy
On 30-Jan-2000, George Drum <geo...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> I will run this Test again soon with another product. if anyone is
> interested in the results please post it here otherwise I will not waist
> the bandwidth.
Any and all measured information of "the best" auction services is always
welcome. You might consider mentioning the item for those who don't or
can't go to the URLs.
Nadav
and sells much more items than the others (better for the seller)
Please tell me your auction links, I'm interested to know the results of the
experiment
--
Check my coin collection
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"George Drum" <geo...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> Tonight sometime I will be using the same three auctions and list a set
> of 1979, 1980, 1981 SBA Souvenir Sets.
Stujoe
says...
>
>
> Tonight sometime I will be using the same three auctions and list a set
> of 1979, 1980, 1981 SBA Souvenir Sets.
>
Make sure you post the links. I am a member of all three and I will be keeping
an eye on the 1981. :-)
Michael Gripp
not as much as ebay but its catching up.
"Nadav" <ino...@sttl.uswest.net> wrote in message
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> From my experience Ebay is always less expensive to the buyer,
> and sells much more items than the others (better for the seller)
> Please tell me your auction links, I'm interested to know the results of
the
> experiment
>
> --
> Check my coin collection
> http://www.geocities.com/nadavn.geo/nadav.htm
>
>
>
> "George Drum" <geo...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:389C65E8...@worldnet.att.net...
> >
> >
JSTONE9352
> I don't know yahoo is free no selling fee's, and it gets alot of traffic,
>not as much as ebay but its catching up.
They may get traffic but hardly any bids
it seems. I've gone through page after
page of listings there with zero bids
being registered. If I was a seller I
would be pretty discouraged.
Stujoe
says...
I have bought a couple of things on yahoo. I think part of the problem is that
most people look at it like an auction site, which it is rarely used for.
Mostly it is a spot to sell coins at a set price or a storefront for a dealer
without a website. There is less chance for a great snipe but more of a chance
to actually "win" a coin if you do like the price it is being offered for.
I would think Yahoo would be better off promoting it as an online store if
Auctions weren't such a buzzword because of ebay's success.
I am not sure if items other than coins are similar in the way the auctions
are typically run or not.
George Drum
picture link so I will include it too.
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=122960&a=901320&p=16028309&Sequence=0
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=254344264
http://auctions.yahoo.com/auction/17147117
http://www.bidvalley.com/listings/details/index.cfm?itemnum=949888624
Stujoe wrote:
>
> In article <389C65E8...@worldnet.att.net>, geo...@worldnet.att.net
> says...
> >
> >
> > Tonight sometime I will be using the same three auctions and list a set
> > of 1979, 1980, 1981 SBA Souvenir Sets.
> >
>
> Make sure you post the links. I am a member of all three and I will be keeping
> an eye on the 1981. :-)
> --
> Stu Miller
> http://stujoe.tripod.com
> Time sure flies when you don't know what you are doing...
I think I resemble that statement.......
George Drum
bidding. If the start bid is close to sell than there is no bidding. My
last auction got more bids than most people but still ended up lower
than the other 2 auction houses.
George
Nick Knight
> I don't know yahoo is free no selling fee's, and it gets alot of
>traffic, not as much as ebay but its catching up.
I went and checked for myself just this week past ... someone had posted a
link, and I started there and then zoomed into my area of interest: bust
halves.
Now, I'm speaking primarily from observations in this one category, but I
wouldn't be surprised to find the same patterns elsewhere. Yes, they have
a lot of listings. The not-so-curious thing was that, even when viewing
those auctions getting ready to close, there weren't that many bidders.
Most auctions were closing without a single bid. Looking at the "minimum
bids", it was easy to see why.
Looks like a conglomerate of dealer retail price lists to me ... some of
the asking prices were fishing for desperate buyers, IMO. They weren't
finding any.
There were a few "genuine" auctions, but it seemed that most of the ones I
checked had a very high opening bid, and often I saw a "buy price" equal
to the opening bid, or a very, very small percentage more (the one I
remember was $10 above the $170 starting bid, from memory).
Sure, you can still find this kind of (non) "auction" on eBay, but it's
easier to find cases where the competition is setting the selling price,
not the seller. Perhaps Yahoo suffers some from the "free listing"
approach. I know I haven't bothered to check back with the Yahoo auctions
since the first peek. I might, one day. ITMT, I still check eBay every
day.
Nick
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Nadav
is that people don't care if they don't sell because they don't lose
anything,
and so, they start at a high price that doesn't attract people.
Yahoo has a lot of traffic, and if the prices there were lower,
it would be as successful as Ebay.
George's auctions prove my point, as you can see
that the difference between Yahoo and Ebay is very small
because he started the bidding at 1 cent
(You don't see that in Yahoo as much as you see it in Ebay)
--
Check my coin collection
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"George Drum" <geo...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:389CE021...@worldnet.att.net...
> Well here they are have fun. Bid valley is still having problems with my
> picture link so I will include it too.
>
>
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=122960&a=901320&p=16028309&Sequence=0
>
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=254344264
>
> http://auctions.yahoo.com/auction/17147117
>
> http://www.bidvalley.com/listings/details/index.cfm?itemnum=949888624
>
>
>
>
> Stujoe wrote:
> >
> > In article <389C65E8...@worldnet.att.net>,
geo...@worldnet.att.net
> > says...
> > >
> > >
> > > Tonight sometime I will be using the same three auctions and list a
set
> > > of 1979, 1980, 1981 SBA Souvenir Sets.
> > >
> >
> > Make sure you post the links. I am a member of all three and I will be
keeping
> > an eye on the 1981. :-)
> > --
> > Stu Miller
> > http://stujoe.tripod.com
>
>
>
> > Time sure flies when you don't know what you are doing...
>
Peter T. Davis
: The problem with Yahoo being free,
: is that people don't care if they don't sell because they don't lose
: anything,
: and so, they start at a high price that doesn't attract people.
: Yahoo has a lot of traffic, and if the prices there were lower,
: it would be as successful as Ebay.
If you count your time as worth something then your effort
is wasted if you don't sell anything. IME, people who are
successful at Yahoo auctions price things at or slightly
below the reasonable retail value of the item. As people
have mentioned before, starting the bid too low can result
in you selling the item for your opening bid.
: George's auctions prove my point, as you can see
: that the difference between Yahoo and Ebay is very small
: because he started the bidding at 1 cent
: (You don't see that in Yahoo as much as you see it in Ebay)
It does depend on the demand for the item. Items with a
high demand will bring a good price when you start the bid
low. Items with little in the way of demand, but with a
substantial value, may kill the seller.
Peter
George Drum
George Drum wrote:
>
> Well here they are have fun. Bid valley is still having problems with my
> picture link so I will include it too.
>
> http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=122960&a=901320&p=16028309&Sequence=0
>
Monday evening stats.
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=254344264
>
$26.00
> http://auctions.yahoo.com/auction/17147117
$19.00
>
> http://www.bidvalley.com/listings/details/index.cfm?itemnum=949888624
>
$ 19.25
George Drum
George Drum wrote:
>
> George Drum wrote:
> >
> > Well here they are have fun. Bid valley is still having problems with my
> > picture link so I will include it too.
> >
> > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=122960&a=901320&p=16028309&Sequence=0
> >
> Monday evening stats. Wed evening
>
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=254344264
> >
> $26.00 $ 31.00
>
> > http://auctions.yahoo.com/auction/17147117
>
> $19.00 $ 22.00 Thanks Stu
> >
> > http://www.bidvalley.com/listings/details/index.cfm?itemnum=949888624
> >
> $ 19.25 $ 19.25
Stujoe
geo...@worldnet.att.net says...
>
>
> George Drum wrote:
> >
> > George Drum wrote:
> > >
> > > George Drum wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well here they are have fun. Bid valley is still having problems with my
> > > > picture link so I will include it too.
> > > >
> > > > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=122960&a=901320&p=16028309&Sequence=0
> > > >
> > >
> > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=254344264
> > > >
> $ 26.00 $ 31.00 $ 36.00
> > >
> > > > http://auctions.yahoo.com/auction/17147117
> > >
> $ 19.00 $ 22.00 Thanks Stu $ 31.01
> > > >
> > > > http://www.bidvalley.com/listings/details/index.cfm?itemnum=949888624
> > > >
> $ 19.25 $ 19.25 $ 21.00
> > >
> > > > Stujoe wrote:
>
> Looks like someone on Bid Valley is going to get a bargain. But we
> still have time for snipers.
>
Not time enough! I chose unwisely with yahoo and was out bid before I
knew it. Bidvalley was completed when I saw this post! I was going to
go to about $25 :-)
George Drum
George Drum wrote:
>
> George Drum wrote:
> >
> > George Drum wrote:
> > >
> > > Well here they are have fun. Bid valley is still having problems with my
> > > picture link so I will include it too.
> > >
> > > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=122960&a=901320&p=16028309&Sequence=0
> > >
Monday evening Wed evening Friday
> >
> > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=254344264
> > >
$ 26.00 $ 31.00 $ 36.00
> >
> > > http://auctions.yahoo.com/auction/17147117
> >
$ 19.00 $ 22.00 Thanks Stu $ 31.01
> > >
> > > http://www.bidvalley.com/listings/details/index.cfm?itemnum=949888624
> > >
$ 19.25 $ 19.25 $ 21.00
> >
> > > Stujoe wrote:
Looks like someone on Bid Valley is going to get a bargain. But we
still have time for snipers.
George
George Drum
Stujoe wrote:
>
> In article <38A4C2D8...@worldnet.att.net>,
> geo...@worldnet.att.net says...
> >
> >
> Not time enough! I chose unwisely with yahoo and was out bid before I
> knew it. Bidvalley was completed when I saw this post! I was going to
> go to about $25 :-)
>
> --
> Stu Miller
> http://stujoe.tripod.com
> Time sure flies when you don't know what you are doing...
Stu I will do this again in a few weeks. This week is going to be
1995-S MS 69 Basketball Half Dollars.
I goofed on bid valley it was supposed to end tonight with the others.
Thanks for the bids.
George
Stujoe
plugi...@worldnet.att.net says...
>
>
>
>
> > > > >
> Monday evening Wed evening Friday Close
> > > >
> > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=254344264
> > > > >
> $ 26.00 $ 31.00 $ 36.00 $ 57.50
> > > >
> > > > > http://auctions.yahoo.com/auction/17147117
> > > >
> $ 19.00 $ 22.00 $ 31.01 $ 35.02
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.bidvalley.com/listings/details/index.cfm?itemnum=949888624
> > > > >
> $ 19.25 $ 19.25 $ 21.00 $ 21.00
I was really surprised that ebay went that high (benefit from a couple
of snipers?), but other than that the breakdown is about what I would
expect
> > > >
>
>
> Well you guys figure it out. There was snipping on both ebay and yahoo.
>
> Bid Valley did close one day early as I goofed.
>
> As to the auctions setting the real price instead of colored sheets
> what is the real price on this set.
For me it was about $25 but I picked the wrong auction to go for. :-)
>
> Baseball half dollar is up but I started a new thread.
>
> Just for the record I did make money on all three. I am really doing
> this for fun but the money does add to the fun.
>
> George
>
> PS Any comments about my posting these are welcome and any comments
> regarding the outcome are welcome too. Just hit the reply button and let
> everybody know what you think.
I think it is an interesting idea (as long as you are comfortable
with the results) but I will be an observer only for the current
comparison. There are only a few Commemoratives that I am
currently interested in. :-)
George Drum
> > > >
Monday evening Wed evening Friday Close
> > >
> > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=254344264
> > > >
$ 26.00 $ 31.00 $ 36.00 $ 57.50
> > >
> > > > http://auctions.yahoo.com/auction/17147117
> > >
$ 19.00 $ 22.00 $ 31.01 $ 35.02
> > > >
> > > > http://www.bidvalley.com/listings/details/index.cfm?itemnum=949888624
> > > >
$ 19.25 $ 19.25 $ 21.00 $ 21.00
> > >
Well you guys figure it out. There was snipping on both ebay and yahoo.
Bid Valley did close one day early as I goofed.
As to the auctions setting the real price instead of colored sheets
what is the real price on this set.
Baseball half dollar is up but I started a new thread.
note.boy
George Drum
"note.boy" wrote:
>
> Very interesting, how much longer can you afford to "loose" money
> selling items on yahoo and bidvalley rather than selling on ebay for
> this experiment? :-) Billy
>
Billy as long as I make at least my cost and fees I will continue doing
this once a week. When you guys lose interest then I will quit posting.
I have a "day" job so this is fun for me. A good dinner out would cost a
lot more than what I pay for each lot of 3 and that would only last one
evening. This lasts a week and keeps me off the street. : > )
George
Peter T. Davis
: Very interesting, how much longer can you afford to "loose" money selling items
: on yahoo and bidvalley rather than selling on ebay for this experiment? :-)
: Billy
I think the real question is why does Bid Valley even figure
into this experiment anyway!!!
Peter
George Drum
and see what happens.
George